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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a16d0dea6c08465298db23a9359c5f19/">#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2026-01-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a16d0dea6c08465298db23a9359c5f19/&notes=#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Dr. Michael Levin</strong> (<a href="https://x.com/drmichaellevin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@drmichaellevin</a>) is the Vannevar Bush Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University and director of the Allen Discovery Center. He is primarily interested in how intelligence self-organizes in a diverse range of natural, engineered, and hybrid embodiments. Applied to the collective intelligence of cell groups undergoing morphogenesis, these ideas have allowed the <a href="https://www.drmichaellevin.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Levin Lab</a> to develop new applications in birth defects, organ regeneration, and cancer suppression.</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by:</strong></p><p><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;shipping software: </strong><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AG1</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>DrinkAG1.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Our Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “forever chemicals”: </strong><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FromOurPlace.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><strong>TIMESTAMPS:</strong></p><ul><li>[00:00:00] Start</li><li>[00:03:18]&nbsp;<em>The Body Electric</em>: A Vancouver bookstore discovery that launched a career.</li><li>[00:04:19] Bioelectricity 101: Your brain uses it to think; your body used it before you had a brain.</li><li>[00:06:05] The lesson learned by scrambled tadpole faces that rearrange themselves.</li><li>[00:08:51] Software vs. hardware: The genome is your factory settings, not your destiny.</li><li>[00:11:43] Two-headed flatworms: Rewriting biological memory without touching DNA.</li><li>[00:16:20] Seeing memories: Voltage-sensitive dyes reveal the body’s hidden blueprints.</li><li>[00:20:12] Three killer apps for humans: Birth defects, regeneration, and cancer.</li><li>[00:24:27] Cancer as identity crisis: Cells forgetting they’re part of a team.</li><li>[00:25:40] The boredom theory of aging: Goal-seeking systems with nothing left to do.</li><li>[00:30:09] Planaria’s immortality hack: Rip yourself in half every two weeks.</li><li>[00:31:27] Manhattan Project for aging: Crack cellular cognition, everything else falls into place.</li><li>[00:33:47] Giving cells new goals: Convince a gut to become an eye.</li><li>[00:37:42] Must mammalian mortality be mandatory?</li><li>[00:40:25] Cross-pollination: Why biologists would benefit from programming courses.</li><li>[00:47:15] Does acupuncture actually do anything?</li><li>[00:50:57] Placebo as feature, not bug: Words and drugs share the same mechanism.</li><li>[00:55:06] The frame problem: Why robots explode and rats intuit what matters.</li><li>[00:59:41] Binary thinking is a trap: “Is it intelligent?” is the wrong question.</li><li>[01:07:46] Minimal brain, normal IQ: Clinical cases that break neuroscience.</li><li>[01:08:45] Super panpsychism: Your liver might have opinions.</li><li>[01:13:48] The Platonic space: Bodies as thin clients for patterns from elsewhere.</li><li>[01:15:24] Keep asking “why” and you end up in the math department.</li><li>[01:23:07] Polycomputing: Sorting algorithms secretly doing side quests.</li><li>[01:28:24] Power scaling for the future and avoiding red herrings for understanding machine minds.</li><li>[01:34:06] Sci-fi recommendations.</li><li>[01:37:24] Cliff Tabin’s toast and Dan Dennett’s steel manning.</li><li>[01:41:21] Parting thoughts.</li></ul><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong><em>,&nbsp;</em>please visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</strong></a></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (<em>5-Bullet Friday</em>) at&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/friday</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For transcripts of episodes, go to&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/transcripts</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Discover Tim’s books:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/books</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Follow Tim:</strong></p><p><strong>Twitter</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Instagram</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>YouTube</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Facebook</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>LinkedIn:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a16d0dea6c08465298db23a9359c5f19/">#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2026-01-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a16d0dea6c08465298db23a9359c5f19/&notes=#849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Dr. Michael Levin</strong> (<a href="https://x.com/drmichaellevin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@drmichaellevin</a>) is the Vannevar Bush Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University and director of the Allen Discovery Center. He is primarily interested in how intelligence self-organizes in a diverse range of natural, engineered, and hybrid embodiments. Applied to the collective intelligence of cell groups undergoing morphogenesis, these ideas have allowed the <a href="https://www.drmichaellevin.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Levin Lab</a> to develop new applications in birth defects, organ regeneration, and cancer suppression.</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by:</strong></p><p><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;shipping software: </strong><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AG1</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>DrinkAG1.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Our Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “forever chemicals”: </strong><a href="https://fromourplace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FromOurPlace.com/Tim</strong></a></p><p><strong>TIMESTAMPS:</strong></p><ul><li>[00:00:00] Start</li><li>[00:03:18]&nbsp;<em>The Body Electric</em>: A Vancouver bookstore discovery that launched a career.</li><li>[00:04:19] Bioelectricity 101: Your brain uses it to think; your body used it before you had a brain.</li><li>[00:06:05] The lesson learned by scrambled tadpole faces that rearrange themselves.</li><li>[00:08:51] Software vs. hardware: The genome is your factory settings, not your destiny.</li><li>[00:11:43] Two-headed flatworms: Rewriting biological memory without touching DNA.</li><li>[00:16:20] Seeing memories: Voltage-sensitive dyes reveal the body’s hidden blueprints.</li><li>[00:20:12] Three killer apps for humans: Birth defects, regeneration, and cancer.</li><li>[00:24:27] Cancer as identity crisis: Cells forgetting they’re part of a team.</li><li>[00:25:40] The boredom theory of aging: Goal-seeking systems with nothing left to do.</li><li>[00:30:09] Planaria’s immortality hack: Rip yourself in half every two weeks.</li><li>[00:31:27] Manhattan Project for aging: Crack cellular cognition, everything else falls into place.</li><li>[00:33:47] Giving cells new goals: Convince a gut to become an eye.</li><li>[00:37:42] Must mammalian mortality be mandatory?</li><li>[00:40:25] Cross-pollination: Why biologists would benefit from programming courses.</li><li>[00:47:15] Does acupuncture actually do anything?</li><li>[00:50:57] Placebo as feature, not bug: Words and drugs share the same mechanism.</li><li>[00:55:06] The frame problem: Why robots explode and rats intuit what matters.</li><li>[00:59:41] Binary thinking is a trap: “Is it intelligent?” is the wrong question.</li><li>[01:07:46] Minimal brain, normal IQ: Clinical cases that break neuroscience.</li><li>[01:08:45] Super panpsychism: Your liver might have opinions.</li><li>[01:13:48] The Platonic space: Bodies as thin clients for patterns from elsewhere.</li><li>[01:15:24] Keep asking “why” and you end up in the math department.</li><li>[01:23:07] Polycomputing: Sorting algorithms secretly doing side quests.</li><li>[01:28:24] Power scaling for the future and avoiding red herrings for understanding machine minds.</li><li>[01:34:06] Sci-fi recommendations.</li><li>[01:37:24] Cliff Tabin’s toast and Dan Dennett’s steel manning.</li><li>[01:41:21] Parting thoughts.</li></ul><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong><em>,&nbsp;</em>please visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</strong></a></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (<em>5-Bullet Friday</em>) at&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/friday</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For transcripts of episodes, go to&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/transcripts</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Discover Tim’s books:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/books</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Follow Tim:</strong></p><p><strong>Twitter</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Instagram</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>YouTube</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Facebook</strong>:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>LinkedIn:&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: #849: Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating "Software" for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More
Pub date: 2026-01-21

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/techcheck-cnbc-rx86Of3Mm92/">TechCheck</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/47f6b222ce954449aa841f42db107094/">Sequoia backs AI health startup 2/19/25</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/47f6b222ce954449aa841f42db107094/&notes=Sequoia backs AI health startup 2/19/25">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/techcheck-cnbc-JFl1RjE-8Kg-rx86Of3Mm92.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>AI startup OpenEvidence is now raising a fresh round of capital from Sequoia at a $1 Billion valuation. We look at the latest big funding round in AI healthcare and why investors are increasingly drawn towards the sector. </p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from CNBC, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/techcheck-cnbc-rx86Of3Mm92/">TechCheck</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/47f6b222ce954449aa841f42db107094/">Sequoia backs AI health startup 2/19/25</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/47f6b222ce954449aa841f42db107094/&notes=Sequoia backs AI health startup 2/19/25">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/techcheck-cnbc-JFl1RjE-8Kg-rx86Of3Mm92.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>AI startup OpenEvidence is now raising a fresh round of capital from Sequoia at a $1 Billion valuation. We look at the latest big funding round in AI healthcare and why investors are increasingly drawn towards the sector. </p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from CNBC, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Sequoia backs AI health startup 2/19/25
Pub date: 2025-02-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/47f6b222ce954449aa841f42db107094/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 18:11:57 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/training-data-sequoia-capital-ohnT0ztmHMw/">Training Data</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fcab65c0a4e745a889841de95e93f0e7/">The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fcab65c0a4e745a889841de95e93f0e7/&notes=The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/training-data-nZatys7Mxl8-ohnT0ztmHMw.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>OpenEvidence is transforming how doctors access medical knowledge at the point of care, from the biggest medical establishments to small practices serving rural communities. Founder Daniel Nadler explains his team’s insight that training smaller, specialized AI models on peer-reviewed literature outperforms large general models for medical applications. He discusses how making the platform freely available to all physicians led to widespread organic adoption and strategic partnerships with publishers like the New England Journal of Medicine. In an industry where organizations move glacially, 10-20% of all U.S. doctors began using OpenEvidence overnight to find information buried deep in the long tail of new medical studies, to validate edge cases and improve diagnoses. Nadler emphasizes the importance of accuracy and transparency in AI healthcare applications.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hosted by: Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital </p><p><br /></p><p>Mentioned in this episode: </p><ul>
<li>
<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.08091">Do We Still Need Clinical Language Models?</a>: Paper from OpenEvidence founders showing that small, specialized models outperformed large models for healthcare diagnostics</li>
<li>
<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.15556">Chinchilla paper</a>: Seminal 2022 paper about scaling laws in large language models</li>
<li>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understand_(story)">Understand</a>: Ted Chiang sci-fi novella published in 1991</li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sequoia Capital, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/training-data-sequoia-capital-ohnT0ztmHMw/">Training Data</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fcab65c0a4e745a889841de95e93f0e7/">The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fcab65c0a4e745a889841de95e93f0e7/&notes=The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/training-data-nZatys7Mxl8-ohnT0ztmHMw.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>OpenEvidence is transforming how doctors access medical knowledge at the point of care, from the biggest medical establishments to small practices serving rural communities. Founder Daniel Nadler explains his team’s insight that training smaller, specialized AI models on peer-reviewed literature outperforms large general models for medical applications. He discusses how making the platform freely available to all physicians led to widespread organic adoption and strategic partnerships with publishers like the New England Journal of Medicine. In an industry where organizations move glacially, 10-20% of all U.S. doctors began using OpenEvidence overnight to find information buried deep in the long tail of new medical studies, to validate edge cases and improve diagnoses. Nadler emphasizes the importance of accuracy and transparency in AI healthcare applications.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hosted by: Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital </p><p><br /></p><p>Mentioned in this episode: </p><ul>
<li>
<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.08091">Do We Still Need Clinical Language Models?</a>: Paper from OpenEvidence founders showing that small, specialized models outperformed large models for healthcare diagnostics</li>
<li>
<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.15556">Chinchilla paper</a>: Seminal 2022 paper about scaling laws in large language models</li>
<li>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understand_(story)">Understand</a>: Ted Chiang sci-fi novella published in 1991</li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sequoia Capital, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Training Data
Episode: The AI Product Going Viral With Doctors: OpenEvidence, with CEO Daniel Nadler
Pub date: 2025-03-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/fcab65c0a4e745a889841de95e93f0e7/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 17:58:57 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Sequoia Capital</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Sequoia Capital</itunes:author>
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            <title>A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/no-priors-artificial-intelligence-ie8Y7SNTKJv/">No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c66e0379215848b886cca4a63ffa3e0d/">A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c66e0379215848b886cca4a63ffa3e0d/&notes=A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/no-priors-artificial-intelligence-machine-zemhDBEgiau-ie8Y7SNTKJv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>How does a new technology get adopted by 40% of American doctors in just 18 months? In an era where the golden age of biotechnology has also created a dark age of physician burnout, OpenEvidence found the answer by fundamentally changing how doctors access critical information. OpenEvidence founder Daniel Nadler sits down with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil to discuss how his company solved the semantic search problem in medicine. He talks about the strategy of treating doctors as consumers, striking the balance of keeping patients in the loop in medical conversations, and how technology will reshape both medicine and medical education. Plus, Daniel gives his thoughts on the roots of motivation, as well as his philosophy for recruitment. </p>
<p>Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com</p>
<p>Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @EvidenceOpen </p>
<p>Chapters:</p>
<p>00:00 – Daniel Nadler Introduction</p>
<p>00:08 – OpenEvidence’s Success </p>
<p>01:54 – How OpenEvidence Works</p>
<p>06:35 – Dealing with Ambiguity</p>
<p>11:37 – Treating Knowledge Workers as Consumers</p>
<p>15:53 – Balancing Keeping Patients in the Loop</p>
<p>19:28 – How Technology May Shape the Future of Medicine</p>
<p>22:12 – How Technology Will Change Medical Education</p>
<p>30:40 – Examining Consumer Adoption of Preventative Health Measures</p>
<p>36:02 – Lessons for Other Fields</p>
<p>37:27 – Rationalism vs. Will</p>
<p>41:13 – Daniel’s Thoughts on Motivation</p>
<p>42:44 – Daniel’s Recruiting Philosophy</p>
<p>44:48 – Conclusion</p>
<p><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Conviction , which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/no-priors-artificial-intelligence-ie8Y7SNTKJv/">No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c66e0379215848b886cca4a63ffa3e0d/">A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c66e0379215848b886cca4a63ffa3e0d/&notes=A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/no-priors-artificial-intelligence-machine-zemhDBEgiau-ie8Y7SNTKJv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>How does a new technology get adopted by 40% of American doctors in just 18 months? In an era where the golden age of biotechnology has also created a dark age of physician burnout, OpenEvidence found the answer by fundamentally changing how doctors access critical information. OpenEvidence founder Daniel Nadler sits down with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil to discuss how his company solved the semantic search problem in medicine. He talks about the strategy of treating doctors as consumers, striking the balance of keeping patients in the loop in medical conversations, and how technology will reshape both medicine and medical education. Plus, Daniel gives his thoughts on the roots of motivation, as well as his philosophy for recruitment. </p>
<p>Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com</p>
<p>Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @EvidenceOpen </p>
<p>Chapters:</p>
<p>00:00 – Daniel Nadler Introduction</p>
<p>00:08 – OpenEvidence’s Success </p>
<p>01:54 – How OpenEvidence Works</p>
<p>06:35 – Dealing with Ambiguity</p>
<p>11:37 – Treating Knowledge Workers as Consumers</p>
<p>15:53 – Balancing Keeping Patients in the Loop</p>
<p>19:28 – How Technology May Shape the Future of Medicine</p>
<p>22:12 – How Technology Will Change Medical Education</p>
<p>30:40 – Examining Consumer Adoption of Preventative Health Measures</p>
<p>36:02 – Lessons for Other Fields</p>
<p>37:27 – Rationalism vs. Will</p>
<p>41:13 – Daniel’s Thoughts on Motivation</p>
<p>42:44 – Daniel’s Recruiting Philosophy</p>
<p>44:48 – Conclusion</p>
<p><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Conviction , which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups
Episode: A New Operating System for Physicians with OpenEvidence Founder Daniel Nadler
Pub date: 2025-09-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c66e0379215848b886cca4a63ffa3e0d/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 17:57:17 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Conviction </author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:author>Conviction </itunes:author>
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            <title>How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder &amp; CTO Zack Ziegler</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-lyt9F8s13Ab/">The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/10e334c56b6a45228bcc3dd5fa3e2a30/">How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder & CTO Zack Ziegler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-11-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/10e334c56b6a45228bcc3dd5fa3e2a30/&notes=How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder & CTO Zack Ziegler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-Rd_lnbmX8k1-lyt9F8s13Ab.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On the heels of raising $210 million at a $6 billion valuation, OpenEvidence is the fastest-growing physician app in history, now reaching over 40% of U.S. physicians and powering 17 million monthly clinical queries.</p><p>In this conversation, co-founder and CTO Zack Ziegler shares how his background in early large language models led him to build an AI that helps clinicians make better decisions at the point of care, without replacing their judgment.</p><p>We cover:</p><p>🧠 The strategies Open Evidence used to reach 40% of U.S. clinicians in a short time</p><p>💡 The unexpected reason they chose to go direct to doctors instead of via their employers</p><p>💰 How they make money</p><p>⚙️ What “Deep Consult” means for the future of clinical decision-making</p><p>🏥 Whether tools like this could ever—or should ever—be available to patients</p><p><strong>About our guest:&nbsp;</strong></p><p>Zachary Ziegler is the cofounder and CTO of OpenEvidence, the leading medical information platform. Designed from the ground up for medical professionals, OpenEvidence organizes and expands the world's medical knowledge to make it more useful, open, accessible, and understandable. Launched out of the Mayo Clinic Platform Accelerate, OpenEvidence has become the most rapidly adopted tool by physicians in history, now used by over 40% of US physicians in over 15,000 care centers across the United States. Before founding OpenEvidence, Ziegler was a PhD student at Harvard University, where he worked with Professor Sasha Rush and was awarded the National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship. He completed his undergraduate studies at Cornell University, where he received the Barry Goldwater Scholarship.</p><p><strong>—</strong></p><p>🙏Thank you to our show sponsor, LookDeep. LookDeep pioneers AI that can see, hear, and respond with care to help hospitals be Ever Present for Every Patient. Learn more at&nbsp;<a href="http://lookdeep.ai/aimee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lookdeep.ai/aimee</a>.</p><p><strong>—</strong></p><p><strong>📍 Connect with us:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.heartofhealthcarepodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Heart of Healthcare website</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-heart-of-healthcare-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>LinkedIn</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@heartofhealthcarepodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>YouTube</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartofhealthcarepodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Instagram</em></a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Massively Better Healthcare, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-lyt9F8s13Ab/">The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/10e334c56b6a45228bcc3dd5fa3e2a30/">How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder & CTO Zack Ziegler</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-11-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/10e334c56b6a45228bcc3dd5fa3e2a30/&notes=How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder & CTO Zack Ziegler">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-Rd_lnbmX8k1-lyt9F8s13Ab.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On the heels of raising $210 million at a $6 billion valuation, OpenEvidence is the fastest-growing physician app in history, now reaching over 40% of U.S. physicians and powering 17 million monthly clinical queries.</p><p>In this conversation, co-founder and CTO Zack Ziegler shares how his background in early large language models led him to build an AI that helps clinicians make better decisions at the point of care, without replacing their judgment.</p><p>We cover:</p><p>🧠 The strategies Open Evidence used to reach 40% of U.S. clinicians in a short time</p><p>💡 The unexpected reason they chose to go direct to doctors instead of via their employers</p><p>💰 How they make money</p><p>⚙️ What “Deep Consult” means for the future of clinical decision-making</p><p>🏥 Whether tools like this could ever—or should ever—be available to patients</p><p><strong>About our guest:&nbsp;</strong></p><p>Zachary Ziegler is the cofounder and CTO of OpenEvidence, the leading medical information platform. Designed from the ground up for medical professionals, OpenEvidence organizes and expands the world's medical knowledge to make it more useful, open, accessible, and understandable. Launched out of the Mayo Clinic Platform Accelerate, OpenEvidence has become the most rapidly adopted tool by physicians in history, now used by over 40% of US physicians in over 15,000 care centers across the United States. Before founding OpenEvidence, Ziegler was a PhD student at Harvard University, where he worked with Professor Sasha Rush and was awarded the National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship. He completed his undergraduate studies at Cornell University, where he received the Barry Goldwater Scholarship.</p><p><strong>—</strong></p><p>🙏Thank you to our show sponsor, LookDeep. LookDeep pioneers AI that can see, hear, and respond with care to help hospitals be Ever Present for Every Patient. Learn more at&nbsp;<a href="http://lookdeep.ai/aimee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lookdeep.ai/aimee</a>.</p><p><strong>—</strong></p><p><strong>📍 Connect with us:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.heartofhealthcarepodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Heart of Healthcare website</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-heart-of-healthcare-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>LinkedIn</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@heartofhealthcarepodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>YouTube</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartofhealthcarepodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Instagram</em></a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Massively Better Healthcare, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast
Episode: How a Small Team Built the Fastest-Growing Clinician App Ever | OpenEvidence Co-founder & CTO Zack Ziegler
Pub date: 2025-11-17

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/10e334c56b6a45228bcc3dd5fa3e2a30/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 17:56:30 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Massively Better Healthcare</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:36:02</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Massively Better Healthcare</itunes:author>
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            <title>Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mutual-understanding-ben-divia-di7Kb_2jzJc/">Mutual Understanding</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c/">Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-11-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c/&notes=Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mutual-understanding-ben-divia-S5O2deUmQy3-di7Kb_2jzJc.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Last week, I went to see <a href="https://x.com/mbateman" target="_blank">Matt Bateman</a> and <a href="https://x.com/astupple" target="_blank">Aaron Stupple</a> talk about their parenting disagreements at <a href="https://montessorium.com" target="_blank">The Montessorium</a>, the (pretty new!) school Matt created. I enjoyed their conversation, wanted to hear even more, asked them if they’d be up for coming on my podcast, and they did!</p><p>Probably the best place to find more is on X.com, and here are a few more links too:</p><p>* Aaron’s book, <a href="https://www.thesovereignchild.com/The-Sovereign-Child.pdf" target="_blank">The Sovereign Child</a> (the link is to the free pdf, and it’s also available at all major book stores</p><p>* <a href="https://takingchildrenseriously.com" target="_blank">Taking Children Seriously</a></p><p>* <a href="https://parentingtheoryandpractice.tumblr.com/post/755737413474795520/reply-to-kelsey-re-unschooling" target="_blank">a thing I wrote</a> a while back about some of what I think about unschooling</p><p>(ETA: I have locked the comments because I both feel somewhat responsible for comments made on my posts and don’t have the bandwidth to monitor them at this time)</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://mutualunderstanding.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">mutualunderstanding.substack.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben & Divia, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mutual-understanding-ben-divia-di7Kb_2jzJc/">Mutual Understanding</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c/">Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-11-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c/&notes=Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mutual-understanding-ben-divia-S5O2deUmQy3-di7Kb_2jzJc.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Last week, I went to see <a href="https://x.com/mbateman" target="_blank">Matt Bateman</a> and <a href="https://x.com/astupple" target="_blank">Aaron Stupple</a> talk about their parenting disagreements at <a href="https://montessorium.com" target="_blank">The Montessorium</a>, the (pretty new!) school Matt created. I enjoyed their conversation, wanted to hear even more, asked them if they’d be up for coming on my podcast, and they did!</p><p>Probably the best place to find more is on X.com, and here are a few more links too:</p><p>* Aaron’s book, <a href="https://www.thesovereignchild.com/The-Sovereign-Child.pdf" target="_blank">The Sovereign Child</a> (the link is to the free pdf, and it’s also available at all major book stores</p><p>* <a href="https://takingchildrenseriously.com" target="_blank">Taking Children Seriously</a></p><p>* <a href="https://parentingtheoryandpractice.tumblr.com/post/755737413474795520/reply-to-kelsey-re-unschooling" target="_blank">a thing I wrote</a> a while back about some of what I think about unschooling</p><p>(ETA: I have locked the comments because I both feel somewhat responsible for comments made on my posts and don’t have the bandwidth to monitor them at this time)</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://mutualunderstanding.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">mutualunderstanding.substack.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben & Divia, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Mutual Understanding
Episode: Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom
Pub date: 2025-11-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/224cf3d26c4f45b4a9348ad2bfbc114c/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 07:56:14 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ben &amp; Divia</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Mutual Understanding</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:author>Ben &amp; Divia</itunes:author>
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            <title>Democracy could be incredibly efficient</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-elysian-elle-griffin-zt0XuQZf92_/">The Elysian</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ca157f01ab6c4291b14447f13fcb4b72/">Democracy could be incredibly efficient</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-10-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ca157f01ab6c4291b14447f13fcb4b72/&notes=Democracy could be incredibly efficient">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-elysian-elle-griffin-FbrEG_L2WA7-zt0XuQZf92_.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I spoke with <a href="https://substack.com/profile/77659618-glen-weyl" target="_blank">Glen Weyl</a>, founder of <a href="https://www.radicalxchange.org/" target="_blank">RadicalXChange</a>, author of <a href="https://www.plurality.net/" target="_blank"><em>Plurality</em></a><em> </em>and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/2268/9780691196060" target="_blank"><em>Radical Markets</em></a><em>, </em>and the lead of Microsoft’s Special Projects division where he founded the Plural Technology Collaboratory.</p><p>Weyl talks a lot about how we can innovate democracy, not just throw it all out in favor of autocracy. In this Guest Lecture, we talk about his recent debate with Curtis Yarvin, whether corporations are autocracies or democracies, whether countries like Singapore are more or less democratic than the US, and how we can use technological advancements and borrow from models around the world to create something much better than representative democracy.</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.elysian.press/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.elysian.press/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Elle Griffin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-elysian-elle-griffin-zt0XuQZf92_/">The Elysian</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ca157f01ab6c4291b14447f13fcb4b72/">Democracy could be incredibly efficient</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-10-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ca157f01ab6c4291b14447f13fcb4b72/&notes=Democracy could be incredibly efficient">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-elysian-elle-griffin-FbrEG_L2WA7-zt0XuQZf92_.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I spoke with <a href="https://substack.com/profile/77659618-glen-weyl" target="_blank">Glen Weyl</a>, founder of <a href="https://www.radicalxchange.org/" target="_blank">RadicalXChange</a>, author of <a href="https://www.plurality.net/" target="_blank"><em>Plurality</em></a><em> </em>and <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/2268/9780691196060" target="_blank"><em>Radical Markets</em></a><em>, </em>and the lead of Microsoft’s Special Projects division where he founded the Plural Technology Collaboratory.</p><p>Weyl talks a lot about how we can innovate democracy, not just throw it all out in favor of autocracy. In this Guest Lecture, we talk about his recent debate with Curtis Yarvin, whether corporations are autocracies or democracies, whether countries like Singapore are more or less democratic than the US, and how we can use technological advancements and borrow from models around the world to create something much better than representative democracy.</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.elysian.press/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.elysian.press/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Elle Griffin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Elysian
Episode: Democracy could be incredibly efficient
Pub date: 2025-10-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ca157f01ab6c4291b14447f13fcb4b72/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 10:09:33 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Elle Griffin</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Elysian</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:10:33</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Elle Griffin</itunes:author>
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            <title>Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/open-to-debate-open-to-debate-0j8JQmoyVXZ/">Open to Debate</a> (LS 61 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e/">Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e/&notes=Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/open-to-debate-open-to-debate-DgocjP-f2mt-0j8JQmoyVXZ.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In some policy circles, the idea of the U.S. electing a CEO-style dictator running the country like a company is gaining momentum. But should the idea be embraced? Those proposing the Dictator CEO, like Curtis Yarvin, argue it would challenge existing institutions and deliver cutthroat efficiency. But democracy advocates, like E. Glen Weyl, argue that consolidating power under one leader undermines the core values fundamental to America’s political system. Now we debate: Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator? </p>
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<p>Arguing Yes: Curtis Yarvin, Anti-democracy theorist and Tech Entrepreneur </p>
<p>Arguing No: E. Glen Weyl, Co-Founder of the RadicalxChange Foundation, Plurality Institute, and the Faith, Family and Technology Network </p>
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<p>Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Visit <a href="https://opentodebate.org/">OpentoDebate.org</a> to watch more insightful debates.  </p>
<p>Subscribe to our <a href="https://opentodebate.org/newsletter/">newsletter</a> to stay informed on our curated weekly debates, dynamic live events, and educational initiatives. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Open to Debate, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/open-to-debate-open-to-debate-0j8JQmoyVXZ/">Open to Debate</a> (LS 61 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e/">Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e/&notes=Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/open-to-debate-open-to-debate-DgocjP-f2mt-0j8JQmoyVXZ.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In some policy circles, the idea of the U.S. electing a CEO-style dictator running the country like a company is gaining momentum. But should the idea be embraced? Those proposing the Dictator CEO, like Curtis Yarvin, argue it would challenge existing institutions and deliver cutthroat efficiency. But democracy advocates, like E. Glen Weyl, argue that consolidating power under one leader undermines the core values fundamental to America’s political system. Now we debate: Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator? </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Arguing Yes: Curtis Yarvin, Anti-democracy theorist and Tech Entrepreneur </p>
<p>Arguing No: E. Glen Weyl, Co-Founder of the RadicalxChange Foundation, Plurality Institute, and the Faith, Family and Technology Network </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Visit <a href="https://opentodebate.org/">OpentoDebate.org</a> to watch more insightful debates.  </p>
<p>Subscribe to our <a href="https://opentodebate.org/newsletter/">newsletter</a> to stay informed on our curated weekly debates, dynamic live events, and educational initiatives. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Open to Debate, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Open to Debate
Episode: Should the U.S. Be Ruled by a CEO Dictator?
Pub date: 2025-09-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c903becff124afc9085d4b0c985407e/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 10:09:23 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Why Philosophy of Biology?</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/closer-to-truth-closer-to-truth-uvq0JK2bVZC/">Closer To Truth</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b/">Why Philosophy of Biology?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b/&notes=Why Philosophy of Biology?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/closer-to-truth-closer-to-truth-f8vuNT02-J_-uvq0JK2bVZC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Get <a href="https://howthelightgetsin.org/festivals/hay?utm_source=MP%2BCloser%2BTo%2BTruth&amp;utm_medium=Website%2BBanner&amp;utm_campaign=HTLGI%2BHay%2B2024&amp;utm_id=Media%2BPartner">20% off tickets</a> to this year's HowtheLightGetsIn Hay Festival with code CTT24 at checkout.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Philosophy of biology has two sides: the process of science and the content of biology. We address key questions. What is the nature of life? How does evolution work and what are its challenges? How to consider race, sex/gender, cognition, culture, morality, healthcare, religion, alien life, and alien intelligences.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Featuring interviews with Michael Ruse, Elliot Sober, Elisabeth Lloyd, Peter Godfrey-Smith, John Dupré, Paul Griffiths, Richard Dawkins, Josh Swamidass, Quayshawn Nigel Julian Spencer, Denis Noble, Alexander Rosenberg, Samir Okasha, Massimo Pigliucci, Alan Love, and Philip Kitcher.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Closer To Truth, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/closer-to-truth-closer-to-truth-uvq0JK2bVZC/">Closer To Truth</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b/">Why Philosophy of Biology?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b/&notes=Why Philosophy of Biology?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/closer-to-truth-closer-to-truth-f8vuNT02-J_-uvq0JK2bVZC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Get <a href="https://howthelightgetsin.org/festivals/hay?utm_source=MP%2BCloser%2BTo%2BTruth&amp;utm_medium=Website%2BBanner&amp;utm_campaign=HTLGI%2BHay%2B2024&amp;utm_id=Media%2BPartner">20% off tickets</a> to this year's HowtheLightGetsIn Hay Festival with code CTT24 at checkout.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Philosophy of biology has two sides: the process of science and the content of biology. We address key questions. What is the nature of life? How does evolution work and what are its challenges? How to consider race, sex/gender, cognition, culture, morality, healthcare, religion, alien life, and alien intelligences.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Featuring interviews with Michael Ruse, Elliot Sober, Elisabeth Lloyd, Peter Godfrey-Smith, John Dupré, Paul Griffiths, Richard Dawkins, Josh Swamidass, Quayshawn Nigel Julian Spencer, Denis Noble, Alexander Rosenberg, Samir Okasha, Massimo Pigliucci, Alan Love, and Philip Kitcher.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Closer To Truth, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Closer To Truth
Episode: Why Philosophy of Biology?
Pub date: 2024-03-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c42d7fe8b84342d2baab75cc27255e6b/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Closer To Truth, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:32:37 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Closer To Truth</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Closer To Truth</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:27:45</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Closer To Truth</itunes:author>
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            <title>Orgasm</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/overthink-ellie-anderson-phd-and-david-peña-f2rYB9gXi7c/">Overthink</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7/">Orgasm</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7/&notes=Orgasm">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/overthink-ellie-anderson-phd-and-david-peña-Vh9PUWI3STK-f2rYB9gXi7c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Fireworks, a gushing waterfall, little death. The orgasm. In episode 77 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss how phenomenology and psychoanalysis interpret the experience of orgasm. They talk about evolutionary theories of  the orgasm, including the theory that the body can suck up...“higher quality sperm.” They tackle what the orgasm gap says about the state of gender and sex in our society.</p><p><br />Works Discussed</p><p>George Bataille, <em>Erotism</em></p><p>Sigmund Freud, “Instincts and Their Vicissitudes”</p><p>Sigmund Freud, “Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality”</p><p>Sara Heinämaa, “The Phenomenology of Desire and Orgasm”</p><p>Jacques Lacan,  <em>Jouissance</em></p><p>Elisabeth Lloyd, <em>The Case of the Female Orgasm Bias in the Science of Evolution</em></p><p>Emily Nagoski, <em>Come As You Are</em></p><p>Thomas Percy, “Walking in a Meadow Green”</p><p><a href="https://www.givecampus.com/pnrdy5" rel="payment" target="_blank">Support the show</a></p><p>Substack | <a href="https://www.patreon.com/overthinkpodcast" target="_blank">overthinkpod.substack.com</a> <br />Website | <a href="https://www.overthinkpodcast.com/" target="_blank">overthinkpodcast.com</a><br />Instagram &amp; Twitter | <a href="http://instagram.com/overthink_pod" target="_blank">@overthink_pod</a><br />Email | <a href="mailto:dearoverthink@gmail.com" target="_blank">dearoverthink@gmail.com</a><br />YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMYhvss0LFHG6DjDtX_gs-A" target="_blank">Overthink podcast</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/overthink-ellie-anderson-phd-and-david-peña-f2rYB9gXi7c/">Overthink</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7/">Orgasm</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7/&notes=Orgasm">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/overthink-ellie-anderson-phd-and-david-peña-Vh9PUWI3STK-f2rYB9gXi7c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Fireworks, a gushing waterfall, little death. The orgasm. In episode 77 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss how phenomenology and psychoanalysis interpret the experience of orgasm. They talk about evolutionary theories of  the orgasm, including the theory that the body can suck up...“higher quality sperm.” They tackle what the orgasm gap says about the state of gender and sex in our society.</p><p><br />Works Discussed</p><p>George Bataille, <em>Erotism</em></p><p>Sigmund Freud, “Instincts and Their Vicissitudes”</p><p>Sigmund Freud, “Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality”</p><p>Sara Heinämaa, “The Phenomenology of Desire and Orgasm”</p><p>Jacques Lacan,  <em>Jouissance</em></p><p>Elisabeth Lloyd, <em>The Case of the Female Orgasm Bias in the Science of Evolution</em></p><p>Emily Nagoski, <em>Come As You Are</em></p><p>Thomas Percy, “Walking in a Meadow Green”</p><p><a href="https://www.givecampus.com/pnrdy5" rel="payment" target="_blank">Support the show</a></p><p>Substack | <a href="https://www.patreon.com/overthinkpodcast" target="_blank">overthinkpod.substack.com</a> <br />Website | <a href="https://www.overthinkpodcast.com/" target="_blank">overthinkpodcast.com</a><br />Instagram &amp; Twitter | <a href="http://instagram.com/overthink_pod" target="_blank">@overthink_pod</a><br />Email | <a href="mailto:dearoverthink@gmail.com" target="_blank">dearoverthink@gmail.com</a><br />YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMYhvss0LFHG6DjDtX_gs-A" target="_blank">Overthink podcast</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Overthink
Episode: Orgasm
Pub date: 2023-05-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/09e2f934b9ed46dc99d81b4e02d734b7/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:26:48 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Overthink</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:50:22</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.</itunes:author>
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            <title>Evolution&#x27;s Dirty Little Secrets</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tomorrows-world-telecast-living-church-of-1xS7OUkNAR0/">Tomorrow's World Telecast</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9d46680d125547459d224791f623ae36/">Evolution's Dirty Little Secrets</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9d46680d125547459d224791f623ae36/&notes=Evolution's Dirty Little Secrets">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tw-telecast-living-church-of-god-F9ABpxsCZLW-1xS7OUkNAR0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Presenter: Wallace G. Smith - (TV0714)
It’s been called one of the most powerful and influential scientific theories in history: the theory of evolution by natural selection, first published well more than a century ago by Charles Darwin.
And its powerful influence on life--in virtually every realm of understanding--would indeed be hard to overestimate.
But is it true?
Many would respond--Of course! Evolution has been proven true a thousand times over! All the evidence we have says evolution is a fact of nature!
But is the evidence really that solid? Is the theory of evolution really that indisputable?
No, it is not. And today, we’ll pull back the curtain on some of the evidence that many evolutionists would prefer you not see.
Join us for this episode of Tomorrow’s World where we will expose some of Evolution’s Dirty Little Secrets.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Living Church of God (International), Inc., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tomorrows-world-telecast-living-church-of-1xS7OUkNAR0/">Tomorrow's World Telecast</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9d46680d125547459d224791f623ae36/">Evolution's Dirty Little Secrets</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9d46680d125547459d224791f623ae36/&notes=Evolution's Dirty Little Secrets">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tw-telecast-living-church-of-god-F9ABpxsCZLW-1xS7OUkNAR0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Presenter: Wallace G. Smith - (TV0714)
It’s been called one of the most powerful and influential scientific theories in history: the theory of evolution by natural selection, first published well more than a century ago by Charles Darwin.
And its powerful influence on life--in virtually every realm of understanding--would indeed be hard to overestimate.
But is it true?
Many would respond--Of course! Evolution has been proven true a thousand times over! All the evidence we have says evolution is a fact of nature!
But is the evidence really that solid? Is the theory of evolution really that indisputable?
No, it is not. And today, we’ll pull back the curtain on some of the evidence that many evolutionists would prefer you not see.
Join us for this episode of Tomorrow’s World where we will expose some of Evolution’s Dirty Little Secrets.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Living Church of God (International), Inc., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Tomorrow's World Telecast
Episode: Evolution's Dirty Little Secrets
Pub date: 2023-03-29

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9d46680d125547459d224791f623ae36/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Living Church of God (International), Inc., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:25:52 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Living Church of God (International), Inc.</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Tomorrow&#x27;s World Telecast</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:28:25</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Living Church of God (International), Inc.</itunes:author>
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            <title>Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/media-freedom-in-a-changing-world-center-pc21tEidNyY/">Media Freedom in a Changing World</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b/">Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b/&notes=Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/media-freedom-in-a-changing-world-Foi9U-kwzZO-pc21tEidNyY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Filippo Menczer is a distinguished professor of informatics and computer science at the Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering at Indiana University, Bloomington, and is the director of the Observatory on Social Media. He has courtesy appointments in cognitive science and physics. He holds a Laurea in Physics from the Sapienza University of Rome and a Ph.D. in Computer Science and Cognitive Science from the University of California, San Diego. Dr. Menczer is an ACM Fellow, a Fellow of the Center for Computer-Mediated Communication, a Senior Research Fellow of The Kinsey Institute, and a board member of the IU Network Science Institute. 

In this episode, he talks about the threats of disinformation and “fake news” to the 2024 election and beyond, and what social media platforms could and should do to curb the amount of disinformation the public is exposed to online.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Center for Intl. Media Law & Policy Studies, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/media-freedom-in-a-changing-world-center-pc21tEidNyY/">Media Freedom in a Changing World</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b/">Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b/&notes=Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/media-freedom-in-a-changing-world-Foi9U-kwzZO-pc21tEidNyY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Filippo Menczer is a distinguished professor of informatics and computer science at the Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering at Indiana University, Bloomington, and is the director of the Observatory on Social Media. He has courtesy appointments in cognitive science and physics. He holds a Laurea in Physics from the Sapienza University of Rome and a Ph.D. in Computer Science and Cognitive Science from the University of California, San Diego. Dr. Menczer is an ACM Fellow, a Fellow of the Center for Computer-Mediated Communication, a Senior Research Fellow of The Kinsey Institute, and a board member of the IU Network Science Institute. 

In this episode, he talks about the threats of disinformation and “fake news” to the 2024 election and beyond, and what social media platforms could and should do to curb the amount of disinformation the public is exposed to online.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Center for Intl. Media Law & Policy Studies, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Media Freedom in a Changing World
Episode: Media Freedom in a Changing World: Filippo Menczer
Pub date: 2024-10-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/467a19e4f7bb4d8a9079058dafb1333b/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:17:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Katy Borner, &quot;Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures&quot; (MIT Press, 2021)</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/new-books-in-geography-marshall-poe-fFwymHUj_BE/">New Books in Geography</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242/">Katy Borner, "Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures" (MIT Press, 2021)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-09-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242/&notes=Katy Borner, "Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures" (MIT Press, 2021)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/new-books-in-geography-marshall-poe-LhElTWx34uN-fFwymHUj_BE.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>To envision and create the futures we want, society needs an appropriate understanding of the likely impact of alternative actions. Data models and visualizations offer a way to understand and intelligently manage complex, interlinked systems in science and technology, education, and policymaking. <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/12343/9780262045957"><em>Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures</em></a><em> </em>(MIT Press, 2021), from the creator of <a href="https://scimaps.org/home">Atlas of Science and Atlas of Knowledge</a>, shows how we can use data to predict, communicate, and ultimately attain desirable futures.</p><p>Using advanced data visualizations to introduce different types of computational models, <em>Atlas of Forecasts</em> demonstrates how models can inform effective decision-making in education, science, technology, and policymaking. The models and maps presented aim to help anyone understand key processes and outcomes of complex systems dynamics, including which human skills are needed in an artificial intelligence–empowered economy; what progress in science and technology is likely to be made; and how policymakers can future-proof regions or nations. This Atlas offers a driver's seat-perspective for a test-drive of the future.</p><p>Support our show by becoming a premium member! <a href="https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/geography">https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/geography</a></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Marshall Poe, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/new-books-in-geography-marshall-poe-fFwymHUj_BE/">New Books in Geography</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242/">Katy Borner, "Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures" (MIT Press, 2021)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-09-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242/&notes=Katy Borner, "Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures" (MIT Press, 2021)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/new-books-in-geography-marshall-poe-LhElTWx34uN-fFwymHUj_BE.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>To envision and create the futures we want, society needs an appropriate understanding of the likely impact of alternative actions. Data models and visualizations offer a way to understand and intelligently manage complex, interlinked systems in science and technology, education, and policymaking. <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/12343/9780262045957"><em>Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures</em></a><em> </em>(MIT Press, 2021), from the creator of <a href="https://scimaps.org/home">Atlas of Science and Atlas of Knowledge</a>, shows how we can use data to predict, communicate, and ultimately attain desirable futures.</p><p>Using advanced data visualizations to introduce different types of computational models, <em>Atlas of Forecasts</em> demonstrates how models can inform effective decision-making in education, science, technology, and policymaking. The models and maps presented aim to help anyone understand key processes and outcomes of complex systems dynamics, including which human skills are needed in an artificial intelligence–empowered economy; what progress in science and technology is likely to be made; and how policymakers can future-proof regions or nations. This Atlas offers a driver's seat-perspective for a test-drive of the future.</p><p>Support our show by becoming a premium member! <a href="https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/geography">https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/geography</a></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Marshall Poe, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: New Books in Geography
Episode: Katy Borner, "Atlas of Forecasts: Modeling and Mapping Desirable Futures" (MIT Press, 2021)
Pub date: 2021-09-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/21cbb244a45b40a2adcffd6bd275f242/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:14:09 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Marshall Poe</author>



            
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            <title>Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3/">Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3/&notes=Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is the first of our two part series (that may or may not be released back-to-back) where Bruce delves into the work Douglas Hofstadter, specifically the book Surfaces and Essences. We consider what is the relationship—if there is any—between critical rationalism and Hofstadter's idea that analogy is a core mechanism of human cognition. Is it fair to criticize Hofstadter's ideas as being inductivism in disguise? Could something like what Hofstadter suggests (i.e. analogy) be central to human consciousness and creation of AGI?</p>
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Follow us on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/bnielson01">⁠https://twitter.com/bnielson01⁠</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3/">Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3/&notes=Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is the first of our two part series (that may or may not be released back-to-back) where Bruce delves into the work Douglas Hofstadter, specifically the book Surfaces and Essences. We consider what is the relationship—if there is any—between critical rationalism and Hofstadter's idea that analogy is a core mechanism of human cognition. Is it fair to criticize Hofstadter's ideas as being inductivism in disguise? Could something like what Hofstadter suggests (i.e. analogy) be central to human consciousness and creation of AGI?</p>
<p>
Follow us on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/bnielson01">⁠https://twitter.com/bnielson01⁠</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 85: Critical Rationalism and Douglas Hofstadter (Part 1)
Pub date: 2024-05-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/89fe604540504ddc84de9e4cabff9de3/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:59:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</author>



            
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            <title>Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-L03rz1GCvjX/">Simplifying Complexity</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b79376a147eb4b4ba89b5fbc0008f878/">Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b79376a147eb4b4ba89b5fbc0008f878/&notes=Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-j-yi5nHX3Dd-L03rz1GCvjX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In 2023, a highly controversial paper titled &lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; was released to the world.</p> <p>In today&rsquo;s episode, we&rsquo;re chatting to one of the its authors, Lee Cronin, Regius Professor of Chemistry at the University of Glasgow and the Founder &amp; CEO of Chemify, to discuss assembly theory and the motivation behind the paper, as well as key concepts such as the assembly index and the copy number.</p> <p>This episode is part one of our two-part chat with Lee. Join us for the next episode, where Lee discusses the Nature paper.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Resources and links:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9">&lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; on Nature</a></li> </ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Connect:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BHComplexity">Simplifying Complexity on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BradyHeywood">Sean Brady on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/">Sean Brady on LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/">Brady Heywood website</a></li> </ul><p><br /> This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit <a href="https://wavelengthcreative.com/?utm_source=show-notes&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=rss-feed-footer">wavelengthcreative.com</a> for more information.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Brady from Brady Heywood, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-L03rz1GCvjX/">Simplifying Complexity</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b79376a147eb4b4ba89b5fbc0008f878/">Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b79376a147eb4b4ba89b5fbc0008f878/&notes=Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-j-yi5nHX3Dd-L03rz1GCvjX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In 2023, a highly controversial paper titled &lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; was released to the world.</p> <p>In today&rsquo;s episode, we&rsquo;re chatting to one of the its authors, Lee Cronin, Regius Professor of Chemistry at the University of Glasgow and the Founder &amp; CEO of Chemify, to discuss assembly theory and the motivation behind the paper, as well as key concepts such as the assembly index and the copy number.</p> <p>This episode is part one of our two-part chat with Lee. Join us for the next episode, where Lee discusses the Nature paper.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Resources and links:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9">&lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; on Nature</a></li> </ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Connect:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BHComplexity">Simplifying Complexity on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BradyHeywood">Sean Brady on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/">Sean Brady on LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/">Brady Heywood website</a></li> </ul><p><br /> This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit <a href="https://wavelengthcreative.com/?utm_source=show-notes&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=rss-feed-footer">wavelengthcreative.com</a> for more information.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Brady from Brady Heywood, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Simplifying Complexity
Episode: Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 1
Pub date: 2025-05-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b79376a147eb4b4ba89b5fbc0008f878/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Brady from Brady Heywood, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:22:37 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Sean Brady from Brady Heywood</author>



            
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            <title>Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-L03rz1GCvjX/">Simplifying Complexity</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6ec874d997b8460f8a22a5e16f597aa8/">Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6ec874d997b8460f8a22a5e16f597aa8/&notes=Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-j-yi5nHX3Dd-L03rz1GCvjX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is part two of our discussion with Lee Cronin on Assembly Theory. Lee Cronin is Regius Professor of Chemistry at the University of Glasgow and the Founder &amp; CEO of Chemify.&nbsp;</p> <p>In this episode, Lee explains how assembly theory can actually be measured in the laboratory using mass spectrometry and other techniques, reveals the critical threshold of 15 that separates living from non-living systems, and discusses his ambitious vision for using assembly theory to detect life elsewhere in the universe and even measure consciousness itself.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Resources and links:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9">&lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; on Nature</a></li> </ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Connect:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BHComplexity">Simplifying Complexity on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BradyHeywood">Sean Brady on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/">Sean Brady on LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/">Brady Heywood website</a></li> </ul><p><br /> This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit <a href="https://wavelengthcreative.com/?utm_source=show-notes&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=rss-feed-footer">wavelengthcreative.com</a> for more information.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Brady from Brady Heywood, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-L03rz1GCvjX/">Simplifying Complexity</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6ec874d997b8460f8a22a5e16f597aa8/">Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6ec874d997b8460f8a22a5e16f597aa8/&notes=Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/simplifying-complexity-sean-brady-from-j-yi5nHX3Dd-L03rz1GCvjX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is part two of our discussion with Lee Cronin on Assembly Theory. Lee Cronin is Regius Professor of Chemistry at the University of Glasgow and the Founder &amp; CEO of Chemify.&nbsp;</p> <p>In this episode, Lee explains how assembly theory can actually be measured in the laboratory using mass spectrometry and other techniques, reveals the critical threshold of 15 that separates living from non-living systems, and discusses his ambitious vision for using assembly theory to detect life elsewhere in the universe and even measure consciousness itself.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Resources and links:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9">&lsquo;Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution&rsquo; on Nature</a></li> </ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Connect:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BHComplexity">Simplifying Complexity on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BradyHeywood">Sean Brady on X</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/">Sean Brady on LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/">Brady Heywood website</a></li> </ul><p><br /> This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit <a href="https://wavelengthcreative.com/?utm_source=show-notes&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=rss-feed-footer">wavelengthcreative.com</a> for more information.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Brady from Brady Heywood, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Assembly theory with Lee Cronin - Part 2
Pub date: 2025-06-09

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:19:54 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jim-rutt-show-the-jim-rutt-show--dk_b0X4aqz/">The Jim Rutt Show</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7d1cfb4561e44cb19756945ae44edbdb/">EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-07-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7d1cfb4561e44cb19756945ae44edbdb/&notes=EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jim-rutt-show-mrFhqZCfQHW--dk_b0X4aqz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Jim talks with Lee Cronin about Chemify, his startup that aims to automate chemistry through "chemifarms" that turn code into molecules. They discuss the development of the ChemChi programming language & its evolution to Turing completeness, quantum vs classical chemistry computation, open source tools & academic access, robotics & automation in chemistry, catalyst discovery & optimization, integration with tools like AlphaFold, business models & venture capital funding, supply chain implications & distributed manufacturing, personalized medicine possibilities, and much more.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Jim Rutt Show, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jim-rutt-show-the-jim-rutt-show--dk_b0X4aqz/">The Jim Rutt Show</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7d1cfb4561e44cb19756945ae44edbdb/">EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-07-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7d1cfb4561e44cb19756945ae44edbdb/&notes=EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jim-rutt-show-mrFhqZCfQHW--dk_b0X4aqz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Jim talks with Lee Cronin about Chemify, his startup that aims to automate chemistry through "chemifarms" that turn code into molecules. They discuss the development of the ChemChi programming language & its evolution to Turing completeness, quantum vs classical chemistry computation, open source tools & academic access, robotics & automation in chemistry, catalyst discovery & optimization, integration with tools like AlphaFold, business models & venture capital funding, supply chain implications & distributed manufacturing, personalized medicine possibilities, and much more.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Jim Rutt Show, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: EP 312 Lee Cronin on Automating Chemistry
Pub date: 2025-07-24

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:18:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/83a5a4cb69f1427cbcf0c67852c21465/">Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/83a5a4cb69f1427cbcf0c67852c21465/&notes=Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Our Christmas gift to you this year is episode 100: an interview with <em>The Man</em> (TM) himself!</p>
<p>Bruce stumbles over himself fan-boying as he asks all his burning (but geeky) questions about cosmology, the omega point, and probability. How do Deutsch and Tipler differ on optimistic end-time cosmology? Is the Omega point refuted by observation (Deutsch) or not (Tipler)? Does heat death contradict the principle of optimism? Is it a bummer? Does stochasticity <em>really</em> not exist? And is it rational to wear a mask during COVID? How do you apply epistemology to a question like that when you lack enough data to severely test your theories but still need to make a decision?</p>
<p>Peter asks: Are free will and downward causation related? Do our genes attempt to coerce us? Why are explanatory and computational universality so confusing? And what if studies show that authoritative parenting is best for children?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/brucenielson/membership" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Support us on Patreon</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/83a5a4cb69f1427cbcf0c67852c21465/">Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/83a5a4cb69f1427cbcf0c67852c21465/&notes=Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Our Christmas gift to you this year is episode 100: an interview with <em>The Man</em> (TM) himself!</p>
<p>Bruce stumbles over himself fan-boying as he asks all his burning (but geeky) questions about cosmology, the omega point, and probability. How do Deutsch and Tipler differ on optimistic end-time cosmology? Is the Omega point refuted by observation (Deutsch) or not (Tipler)? Does heat death contradict the principle of optimism? Is it a bummer? Does stochasticity <em>really</em> not exist? And is it rational to wear a mask during COVID? How do you apply epistemology to a question like that when you lack enough data to severely test your theories but still need to make a decision?</p>
<p>Peter asks: Are free will and downward causation related? Do our genes attempt to coerce us? Why are explanatory and computational universality so confusing? And what if studies show that authoritative parenting is best for children?</p>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 100: Interview with David Deutsch
Pub date: 2024-12-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/83a5a4cb69f1427cbcf0c67852c21465/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:12:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/auf-deutsch-gesagt-robin-meinert-M7vTI2zafNB/">Auf Deutsch gesagt!</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/429c90d2284c4428ab61e723fc3ee04f/">Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/429c90d2284c4428ab61e723fc3ee04f/&notes=Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/auf-deutsch-gesagt-robin-meinert-sRh863XZj9H-M7vTI2zafNB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Liebe Leute,</p><p>in dieser Folge spreche ich mit <strong>Flemming </strong>von <em>Deutsches Geplapper</em> und <strong>David </strong>von <em>LinguaThor</em>, die gemeinsam die&nbsp;<strong>German AI Academy</strong> gegründet haben. Wir reden darüber, wie man mit <strong>KI</strong> die vier wichtigsten Sprachfertigkeiten – <strong>Sprechen, Hören, Lesen und Schreiben</strong> – noch gezielter, motivierender und effizienter trainieren kann.</p><p>In der Sprachanalyse (26:44) gibt es wieder interessanten Wortschatz wie „die Konvergenz“, „kuratieren“, oder Redewendungen wie „in den Kinderschuhen stecken.“</p><br /><p>Viel Spaß!</p><p>Euer Robin</p><p>🌏 Hol dir jetzt den exklusiven <strong>NordVPN-Deal </strong>mit großem Rabatt und 4 Bonusmonaten unter</p><p>→&nbsp;<a href="https://nordvpn.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nordvpn.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Es ist völlig risikofrei mit der 30-Tage-Geld-zurück-Garantie!✌️</p><p><strong>Zur GERMAN AI ACADEMY</strong>:</p><p><a href="https://copecart.com/products/56d2aa91/p/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://copecart.com/products/56d2aa91/p/aufdeutschgesagt</a> (Affiliate-Link)</p><p><strong>Hier geht es zum Handout:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r339qn3hk4wyfkhhwvehd/Episode_139_Deutsch-lernen-mit-KI-mit-David-und-Flemming-_Handout.pdf?rlkey=ma3q2lao2lu6r2lq95vrqllnn&amp;dl=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r339qn3hk4wyfkhhwvehd/Episode_139_Deutsch-lernen-mit-KI-mit-David-und-Flemming-_Handout.pdf?rlkey=ma3q2lao2lu6r2lq95vrqllnn&amp;dl=0</a></p><p><strong>Zum Wortschatz-Wochenende:</strong></p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/wortschatz-wochenende-in-hamburg-gemeinsam-deutsch-sprechen-verstehen-und-anwenden-ganz-ohne-stress/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/wortschatz-wochenende-in-hamburg-gemeinsam-deutsch-sprechen-verstehen-und-anwenden-ganz-ohne-stress/</a></p><p><strong>Das Transkript und viele weitere Extras gibt es auf Patreon:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p><strong>Zum Newsletter:</strong></p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.us21.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=530247c810b1c462df23c5ff9&amp;id=b3c548b8d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aufdeutschgesagt.us21.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=530247c810b1c462df23c5ff9&amp;id=b3c548b8d1</a></p><p><strong>Wer meine Arbeit finanziell unterstützen will, der kann das hier tun:</strong></p><p><a href="https://paypal.me/aufdeutschgesagt?locale.x=de_DE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://paypal.me/aufdeutschgesagt?locale.x=de_DE</a></p><p><strong>E-Mail:</strong></p><p><a href="mailto:auf-deutsch-gesagt@gmx.de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">auf-deutsch-gesagt@gmx.de</a></p><p><strong>Homepage:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.aufdeutschgesagt.de/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.aufdeutschgesagt.de</a></p><p><strong>Folge dem Podcast auch auf diesen Kanälen:</strong></p><p><strong>Facebook:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Podcast/Auf-Deutsch-gesagt-Podcast-2244379965835103/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Podcast/Auf-Deutsch-gesagt-Podcast-2244379965835103/</a></p><p><strong>Instagram:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.instagram.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p><strong>YouTube:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p>Zu allen Kursen:</p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/seminar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kurse - Auf Deutsch gesagt!</a></p><br /><p>Fixe Geschichten jetzt kostenlos testen:</p><p>👉 <strong><a href="https://us.list-manage.com/IoSGcFop5cP?e=905e64d1da&amp;c2id=844ec139b46db76b0847486d9189b5af" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://auf-deutsch-gesagt.vercel.app/testen</a></strong></p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/auf-deutsch-gesagt-robin-meinert-M7vTI2zafNB/">Auf Deutsch gesagt!</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/429c90d2284c4428ab61e723fc3ee04f/">Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/429c90d2284c4428ab61e723fc3ee04f/&notes=Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/auf-deutsch-gesagt-robin-meinert-sRh863XZj9H-M7vTI2zafNB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Liebe Leute,</p><p>in dieser Folge spreche ich mit <strong>Flemming </strong>von <em>Deutsches Geplapper</em> und <strong>David </strong>von <em>LinguaThor</em>, die gemeinsam die&nbsp;<strong>German AI Academy</strong> gegründet haben. Wir reden darüber, wie man mit <strong>KI</strong> die vier wichtigsten Sprachfertigkeiten – <strong>Sprechen, Hören, Lesen und Schreiben</strong> – noch gezielter, motivierender und effizienter trainieren kann.</p><p>In der Sprachanalyse (26:44) gibt es wieder interessanten Wortschatz wie „die Konvergenz“, „kuratieren“, oder Redewendungen wie „in den Kinderschuhen stecken.“</p><br /><p>Viel Spaß!</p><p>Euer Robin</p><p>🌏 Hol dir jetzt den exklusiven <strong>NordVPN-Deal </strong>mit großem Rabatt und 4 Bonusmonaten unter</p><p>→&nbsp;<a href="https://nordvpn.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nordvpn.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Es ist völlig risikofrei mit der 30-Tage-Geld-zurück-Garantie!✌️</p><p><strong>Zur GERMAN AI ACADEMY</strong>:</p><p><a href="https://copecart.com/products/56d2aa91/p/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://copecart.com/products/56d2aa91/p/aufdeutschgesagt</a> (Affiliate-Link)</p><p><strong>Hier geht es zum Handout:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r339qn3hk4wyfkhhwvehd/Episode_139_Deutsch-lernen-mit-KI-mit-David-und-Flemming-_Handout.pdf?rlkey=ma3q2lao2lu6r2lq95vrqllnn&amp;dl=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r339qn3hk4wyfkhhwvehd/Episode_139_Deutsch-lernen-mit-KI-mit-David-und-Flemming-_Handout.pdf?rlkey=ma3q2lao2lu6r2lq95vrqllnn&amp;dl=0</a></p><p><strong>Zum Wortschatz-Wochenende:</strong></p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/wortschatz-wochenende-in-hamburg-gemeinsam-deutsch-sprechen-verstehen-und-anwenden-ganz-ohne-stress/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/wortschatz-wochenende-in-hamburg-gemeinsam-deutsch-sprechen-verstehen-und-anwenden-ganz-ohne-stress/</a></p><p><strong>Das Transkript und viele weitere Extras gibt es auf Patreon:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p><strong>Zum Newsletter:</strong></p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.us21.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=530247c810b1c462df23c5ff9&amp;id=b3c548b8d1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aufdeutschgesagt.us21.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=530247c810b1c462df23c5ff9&amp;id=b3c548b8d1</a></p><p><strong>Wer meine Arbeit finanziell unterstützen will, der kann das hier tun:</strong></p><p><a href="https://paypal.me/aufdeutschgesagt?locale.x=de_DE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://paypal.me/aufdeutschgesagt?locale.x=de_DE</a></p><p><strong>E-Mail:</strong></p><p><a href="mailto:auf-deutsch-gesagt@gmx.de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">auf-deutsch-gesagt@gmx.de</a></p><p><strong>Homepage:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.aufdeutschgesagt.de/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.aufdeutschgesagt.de</a></p><p><strong>Folge dem Podcast auch auf diesen Kanälen:</strong></p><p><strong>Facebook:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Podcast/Auf-Deutsch-gesagt-Podcast-2244379965835103/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Podcast/Auf-Deutsch-gesagt-Podcast-2244379965835103/</a></p><p><strong>Instagram:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.instagram.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p><strong>YouTube:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/aufdeutschgesagt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/aufdeutschgesagt</a></p><p>Zu allen Kursen:</p><p><a href="https://aufdeutschgesagt.de/seminar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kurse - Auf Deutsch gesagt!</a></p><br /><p>Fixe Geschichten jetzt kostenlos testen:</p><p>👉 <strong><a href="https://us.list-manage.com/IoSGcFop5cP?e=905e64d1da&amp;c2id=844ec139b46db76b0847486d9189b5af" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://auf-deutsch-gesagt.vercel.app/testen</a></strong></p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. 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Podcast: Auf Deutsch gesagt!
Episode: Episode 139: Deutsch lernen mit KI mit David und Flemming
Pub date: 2025-04-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/429c90d2284c4428ab61e723fc3ee04f/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 12:10:14 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Robin Meinert</author>



            
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            <title>Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness &amp; the Mind-Body Problem</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mind-body-solution-with-dr-tevin-naidu-dr-Q7ZOgHvXSjI/">Mind-Body Solution with Dr Tevin Naidu</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b9ef71af130e47b4972216e67c6995e0/">Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness & the Mind-Body Problem</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b9ef71af130e47b4972216e67c6995e0/&notes=Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness & the Mind-Body Problem">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mind-body-solution-with-dr-tevin-naidu-dr-Yqzv_fTDUwp-Q7ZOgHvXSjI.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Full Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMxTS7eKkNM
Title: &quot;Michael Levin: What Is The Field Of Diverse Intelligence (DI)? All Possible Intelligent Agents&quot; 

CONNECT:
- Website: https://tevinnaidu.com 
- Podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/mindbodysolution</p>
<p>- YouTube: https://youtube.com/mindbodysolution
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/drtevinnaidu
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Disclaimer: The information provided on this channel is for educational purposes only. The content is shared in the spirit of open discourse and does not constitute, nor does it substitute, professional or medical advice. We do not accept any liability for any loss or damage incurred from you acting or not acting as a result of listening/watching any of our contents. You acknowledge that you use the information provided at your own risk. Listeners/viewers are advised to conduct their own research and consult with their own experts in the respective fields.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr Tevin Naidu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mind-body-solution-with-dr-tevin-naidu-dr-Q7ZOgHvXSjI/">Mind-Body Solution with Dr Tevin Naidu</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b9ef71af130e47b4972216e67c6995e0/">Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness & the Mind-Body Problem</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b9ef71af130e47b4972216e67c6995e0/&notes=Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness & the Mind-Body Problem">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mind-body-solution-with-dr-tevin-naidu-dr-Yqzv_fTDUwp-Q7ZOgHvXSjI.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Full Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMxTS7eKkNM
Title: &quot;Michael Levin: What Is The Field Of Diverse Intelligence (DI)? All Possible Intelligent Agents&quot; 

CONNECT:
- Website: https://tevinnaidu.com 
- Podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/mindbodysolution</p>
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Podcast: Mind-Body Solution with Dr Tevin Naidu
Episode: Michael Levin Addresses Consciousness & the Mind-Body Problem
Pub date: 2025-01-25

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b9ef71af130e47b4972216e67c6995e0/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr Tevin Naidu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 11:59:46 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dr Tevin Naidu</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Mind-Body Solution with Dr Tevin Naidu</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:14:59</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Dr Tevin Naidu</itunes:author>
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            <title>How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/big-think-bigthink-exzp72CSwAX/">Big Think</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022/">How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-10-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022/&notes=How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/big-think-bigthink-teNsPI0kbSC-exzp72CSwAX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Evolution doesn’t fix things — it reinvents them. Michael Levin, a biologist, explains.

Esteemed biologist Michael Levin explores a captivating biological perspective of evolution — one that’s hard for engineers to come to terms with. In their work, making random changes to a system usually makes things worse, not better. 

But evolution, on the other hand, doesn't just produce specific solutions to specific challenges; instead, it creates what Levin calls "problem-solving machines." These machines are made up of hierarchical biological hardware with incredible adaptability, capable of tackling various challenges without assuming specific environmental conditions.

Contrary to commonly held ideas about evolution, it doesn't just search for the best possible physical characteristics in organisms. It also uses signals and behaviors to shape how organisms function, so when things change or get damaged, the different parts of an organism can continue to function.  From metabolic to physiological dilemmas, Levin highlights evolution’s remarkable ability to adapt.</p>
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  <p>-----------</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from bigthink, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/big-think-bigthink-exzp72CSwAX/">Big Think</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022/">How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-10-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022/&notes=How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/big-think-bigthink-teNsPI0kbSC-exzp72CSwAX.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Evolution doesn’t fix things — it reinvents them. Michael Levin, a biologist, explains.

Esteemed biologist Michael Levin explores a captivating biological perspective of evolution — one that’s hard for engineers to come to terms with. In their work, making random changes to a system usually makes things worse, not better. 

But evolution, on the other hand, doesn't just produce specific solutions to specific challenges; instead, it creates what Levin calls "problem-solving machines." These machines are made up of hierarchical biological hardware with incredible adaptability, capable of tackling various challenges without assuming specific environmental conditions.

Contrary to commonly held ideas about evolution, it doesn't just search for the best possible physical characteristics in organisms. It also uses signals and behaviors to shape how organisms function, so when things change or get damaged, the different parts of an organism can continue to function.  From metabolic to physiological dilemmas, Levin highlights evolution’s remarkable ability to adapt.</p>
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--------------11:08-25

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  <p>-----------</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from bigthink, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Big Think
Episode: How evolution creates problem-solving machines | Michael Levin
Pub date: 2025-10-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/bfe7b20134b846e78f0eb212e6f52022/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from bigthink, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 11:58:37 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>bigthink</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Big Think</itunes:subtitle>
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            <title>Episode 220 - Michael Levin</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ethics-experts-nick-gallo-giovanni-gallo-bEMXrozYtH9/">The Ethics Experts</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3bc67aa20e024d11b5750b7ddc99abb7/">Episode 220 - Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3bc67aa20e024d11b5750b7ddc99abb7/&notes=Episode 220 - Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ethics-experts-nick-gallo-giovanni-gallo-1w2frlEBMOn-bEMXrozYtH9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of The Ethics Experts, Nick welcomes Michael Levin.</p><p>Michael Levin has a proven track-record of developing strategies and tactics for reducing compliance and ethics risks and has designed best-practice compliance programs for more than 100 companies.</p><p>Michael spent 10+ years overseeing Compliance and Ethics at Freddie Mac, leading a team of compliance professionals and corporate investigators, and setting the strategy to manage and mitigate Ethics, Culture and Conduct risk across the enterprise. This includes the Compliance Helpline, the Code of Conduct, employee trading controls, corporate investigations, and enterprise risk and compliance training. Levin was the founder of and also served as Secretary of Freddie Mac’s Conduct Risk Committee.</p><p>Connect with Michael on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-levin-0a958a1/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-levin-0a958a1/</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nick Gallo, Giovanni Gallo, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ethics-experts-nick-gallo-giovanni-gallo-bEMXrozYtH9/">The Ethics Experts</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3bc67aa20e024d11b5750b7ddc99abb7/">Episode 220 - Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3bc67aa20e024d11b5750b7ddc99abb7/&notes=Episode 220 - Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ethics-experts-nick-gallo-giovanni-gallo-1w2frlEBMOn-bEMXrozYtH9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of The Ethics Experts, Nick welcomes Michael Levin.</p><p>Michael Levin has a proven track-record of developing strategies and tactics for reducing compliance and ethics risks and has designed best-practice compliance programs for more than 100 companies.</p><p>Michael spent 10+ years overseeing Compliance and Ethics at Freddie Mac, leading a team of compliance professionals and corporate investigators, and setting the strategy to manage and mitigate Ethics, Culture and Conduct risk across the enterprise. This includes the Compliance Helpline, the Code of Conduct, employee trading controls, corporate investigations, and enterprise risk and compliance training. Levin was the founder of and also served as Secretary of Freddie Mac’s Conduct Risk Committee.</p><p>Connect with Michael on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-levin-0a958a1/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-levin-0a958a1/</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nick Gallo, Giovanni Gallo, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Ethics Experts
Episode: Episode 220 - Michael Levin
Pub date: 2025-06-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3bc67aa20e024d11b5750b7ddc99abb7/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 11:57:43 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Nick Gallo, Giovanni Gallo</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Ethics Experts</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:01:20</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Nick Gallo, Giovanni Gallo</itunes:author>
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            <title>David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/into-the-impossible-with-brian-keating-big-p8gMEH75N_n/">Into the Impossible With Brian Keating</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc/">David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc/&notes=David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/into-the-impossible-with-brian-keating-big-rbg9sxPOZaK-p8gMEH75N_n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Get My New Book, Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner, for Only $ 0.99! This week only: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U </p>

<p>David Deutsch offers his insights into the physics that will impact our future, challenging our new technologies, such as AGI and the development of synthetic humans, as depicted in movies. Join us for this fascinating discussion as we go INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE.</p>

<p>KEY TAKEAWAYS</p>
<ul>00:00:00 – 00:00:39 Could machines  experience thoughts and sensations like humans?</ul>
<ul>00:00:45 – 00:01:46 Deutsch argues subjective experiences can arise from any system replicating brain-like processing.</ul>
<ul>00:01:47 – 00:02:25 We never experience the present moment directly but recall slightly delayed interpretations.</ul>
<ul>00:02:25 – 00:03:30 Deutsch views himself as software running on brain hardware, embodiment is mainly computational.</ul>
<ul>00:03:30 – 00:04:37 Loss of physical body parts doesn’t reduce personhood</ul>
<ul>00:04:43 – 00:07:13 Story of “lock-in” from horse’s width shaping space tech leads to analogy about AI hardware lock-in.</ul>
<ul>00:08:10 – 00:09:20 Lock-in may slow progress but creativity ensures no permanent limits.</ul>
<ul>00:09:20 – 00:12:15 Square roots and complex numbers naturally emerge in physics due to algebraic structures of reality.</ul>
<ul>00:12:15 – 00:13:31 Not all mathematical structures are worth exploring—only those relevant to solving physics problems.</ul>
<ul>00:13:31 – 00:17:00 Shift to memetics: persistence of anti-Jewish patterns is deeper than typical memes.</ul>
<ul>00:17:00 – 00:19:26 Pattern predates Christianity; it persists through cultural rationalizations, not simple hatred.</ul>
<ul>00:19:50 – 00:21:23 Discussion of life vs. death choices from Torah portion ties to Deutsch’s book on infinity</ul>
<ul>00:21:44 – 00:22:32 Humanity faces no upper or lower bounds—capable of infinite progress or catastrophic mistakes</ul>
<ul>00:23:36 – 00:24:21 Advice to young self-consider interference processes as a door to quantum computation</ul>
<ul>00:25:16 – 00:26:13 Deutsch admits past mistakes—initially misjudged multiverse explanations and free will</ul>
<ul>00:27:08 – 00:28:08 David redefines free will as the ability to create objectively new knowledge.</ul>
<ul>00:28:14 – 00:28:41 AGI programs will have free will once true AI is achieved.</ul>
<ul>00:29:02 – 00:29:18 Conclusion</ul>

<p>--------------------------</p>
<p>Additional resources: </p>

<p>Get Dr. Brian Keating’s NEW Book for Only 0.99! This week only: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FN8DH6SX?ref_=pe_93986420_775043100 </p>

<p>Get David Deutsch’s Book: https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359</p>

<p>Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/yt to win a meteorite 💥</p>

<p>--------------------------</p>
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<p>Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner, with life changing interviews with 9 Nobel Prizewinners: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu</p>

<p>My tell-all cosmic memoir Losing the Nobel Prize: http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA </p>

<p>The first-ever audiobook from Galileo: Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems: Ptolemaic and Copernican https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un</p>

<p>📺 Watch my most popular videos:📺 </p>
<ul>Neil Turok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5cFLN65fI</ul>
<ul>Frank Wilczek https://youtu.be/3z8RqKMQHe0?sub_confirmation=1</ul>
<ul>Eric Weinstein vs. Stephen Wolfram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI0AZ4Y4Ip4?sub_confirmation=1 </ul>
<ul>Sir Roger Penrose: https://youtu.be/AMuqyAvX7Wo</ul>
<ul>Sabine Hossenfelder: https://youtu.be/g00ilS6tBvs</ul>
<ul>Avi Loeb: https://youtu.be/N9lUceHsLRw</ul>

<p>Follow me to ask questions of my guests:</p>
<ul>🏄‍♂️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating </ul>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/into-the-impossible-with-brian-keating-big-p8gMEH75N_n/">Into the Impossible With Brian Keating</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc/">David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-09-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc/&notes=David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/into-the-impossible-with-brian-keating-big-rbg9sxPOZaK-p8gMEH75N_n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Get My New Book, Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner, for Only $ 0.99! This week only: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U </p>

<p>David Deutsch offers his insights into the physics that will impact our future, challenging our new technologies, such as AGI and the development of synthetic humans, as depicted in movies. Join us for this fascinating discussion as we go INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE.</p>

<p>KEY TAKEAWAYS</p>
<ul>00:00:00 – 00:00:39 Could machines  experience thoughts and sensations like humans?</ul>
<ul>00:00:45 – 00:01:46 Deutsch argues subjective experiences can arise from any system replicating brain-like processing.</ul>
<ul>00:01:47 – 00:02:25 We never experience the present moment directly but recall slightly delayed interpretations.</ul>
<ul>00:02:25 – 00:03:30 Deutsch views himself as software running on brain hardware, embodiment is mainly computational.</ul>
<ul>00:03:30 – 00:04:37 Loss of physical body parts doesn’t reduce personhood</ul>
<ul>00:04:43 – 00:07:13 Story of “lock-in” from horse’s width shaping space tech leads to analogy about AI hardware lock-in.</ul>
<ul>00:08:10 – 00:09:20 Lock-in may slow progress but creativity ensures no permanent limits.</ul>
<ul>00:09:20 – 00:12:15 Square roots and complex numbers naturally emerge in physics due to algebraic structures of reality.</ul>
<ul>00:12:15 – 00:13:31 Not all mathematical structures are worth exploring—only those relevant to solving physics problems.</ul>
<ul>00:13:31 – 00:17:00 Shift to memetics: persistence of anti-Jewish patterns is deeper than typical memes.</ul>
<ul>00:17:00 – 00:19:26 Pattern predates Christianity; it persists through cultural rationalizations, not simple hatred.</ul>
<ul>00:19:50 – 00:21:23 Discussion of life vs. death choices from Torah portion ties to Deutsch’s book on infinity</ul>
<ul>00:21:44 – 00:22:32 Humanity faces no upper or lower bounds—capable of infinite progress or catastrophic mistakes</ul>
<ul>00:23:36 – 00:24:21 Advice to young self-consider interference processes as a door to quantum computation</ul>
<ul>00:25:16 – 00:26:13 Deutsch admits past mistakes—initially misjudged multiverse explanations and free will</ul>
<ul>00:27:08 – 00:28:08 David redefines free will as the ability to create objectively new knowledge.</ul>
<ul>00:28:14 – 00:28:41 AGI programs will have free will once true AI is achieved.</ul>
<ul>00:29:02 – 00:29:18 Conclusion</ul>

<p>--------------------------</p>
<p>Additional resources: </p>

<p>Get Dr. Brian Keating’s NEW Book for Only 0.99! This week only: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FN8DH6SX?ref_=pe_93986420_775043100 </p>

<p>Get David Deutsch’s Book: https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359</p>

<p>Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/yt to win a meteorite 💥</p>

<p>--------------------------</p>
<p>Join this channel to get access to perks like monthly Office Hours:</p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join</p>

<p>📚 Get a copy of my books:</p>
<p>Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner, with life changing interviews with 9 Nobel Prizewinners: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu</p>

<p>My tell-all cosmic memoir Losing the Nobel Prize: http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA </p>

<p>The first-ever audiobook from Galileo: Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems: Ptolemaic and Copernican https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un</p>

<p>📺 Watch my most popular videos:📺 </p>
<ul>Neil Turok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5cFLN65fI</ul>
<ul>Frank Wilczek https://youtu.be/3z8RqKMQHe0?sub_confirmation=1</ul>
<ul>Eric Weinstein vs. Stephen Wolfram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI0AZ4Y4Ip4?sub_confirmation=1 </ul>
<ul>Sir Roger Penrose: https://youtu.be/AMuqyAvX7Wo</ul>
<ul>Sabine Hossenfelder: https://youtu.be/g00ilS6tBvs</ul>
<ul>Avi Loeb: https://youtu.be/N9lUceHsLRw</ul>

<p>Follow me to ask questions of my guests:</p>
<ul>🏄‍♂️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating </ul>
<ul>🔔 Subscribe https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1</ul>
<ul>📝 Join my mailing list; just click here http://briankeating.com/list</ul>
<ul>✍️ Detailed Blog posts here: https://briankeating.com/blog</ul>
<ul>🎙️ Listen on audio-only platforms: https://briankeating.com/podcast</ul><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Big Bang Productions Inc., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Into the Impossible With Brian Keating
Episode: David Deutsch Says We Will Build Humans Before We Build AGI - #515
Pub date: 2025-09-11

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3910865f6e7e4914ab81982af2e2f4cc/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Big Bang Productions Inc., which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:22:50 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:32:54</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Big Bang Productions Inc.</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ep 4: Tom Hyde</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88/">Ep 4: Tom Hyde</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88/&notes=Ep 4: Tom Hyde">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tom Hyde is a philosopher and polymath interested in the relationship between epistemology and aesthetics. He is developing Wonderism, a bold new book aiming to reconcile Enlightenment rationality with Romanticist sentiment. To wonder, both to think and to feel, to question and to marvel, lies at the heart of all human action. Wonderism explains both sides of this balance and sheds light on the relationships between knowledge and experience, reason and feeling, science and art. Tom has degrees in science and can be found on X at https://x.com/tomhyde_ and on Substack at https://tomhyde.substack.com/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88/">Ep 4: Tom Hyde</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-06-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88/&notes=Ep 4: Tom Hyde">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tom Hyde is a philosopher and polymath interested in the relationship between epistemology and aesthetics. He is developing Wonderism, a bold new book aiming to reconcile Enlightenment rationality with Romanticist sentiment. To wonder, both to think and to feel, to question and to marvel, lies at the heart of all human action. Wonderism explains both sides of this balance and sheds light on the relationships between knowledge and experience, reason and feeling, science and art. Tom has degrees in science and can be found on X at https://x.com/tomhyde_ and on Substack at https://tomhyde.substack.com/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Conjecture Institute
Episode: Ep 4: Tom Hyde
Pub date: 2025-06-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c3ca9befd224483c9bba62cb3c19af88/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 00:29:35 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>conjectureinstitute</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Conjecture Institute</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>01:17:33</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Ep 3: Arjun Khemani</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e3384cbafba44d4833b22697730c4cc/">Ep 3: Arjun Khemani</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0e3384cbafba44d4833b22697730c4cc/&notes=Ep 3: Arjun Khemani">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Arjun Khemani is a content creator and fellow of Conjecture Institute. He is an 18-year-old high school dropout who launched and helped lead support at Naval Ravikant's Airchat. He is creating a documentary about our deepest theory of knowledge. In general, he works to spread optimism and fight the enemies of civilization. His Youtube channel can be found <a href="https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCvdvXkC2ZZEo82yaPh7yC4A"> @arjunkhemani </a> and can be followed on X at https://x.com/arjunkhemani</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e3384cbafba44d4833b22697730c4cc/">Ep 3: Arjun Khemani</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0e3384cbafba44d4833b22697730c4cc/&notes=Ep 3: Arjun Khemani">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Arjun Khemani is a content creator and fellow of Conjecture Institute. He is an 18-year-old high school dropout who launched and helped lead support at Naval Ravikant's Airchat. He is creating a documentary about our deepest theory of knowledge. In general, he works to spread optimism and fight the enemies of civilization. His Youtube channel can be found <a href="https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCvdvXkC2ZZEo82yaPh7yC4A"> @arjunkhemani </a> and can be followed on X at https://x.com/arjunkhemani</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Conjecture Institute
Episode: Ep 3: Arjun Khemani
Pub date: 2025-05-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e3384cbafba44d4833b22697730c4cc/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 00:29:25 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Ep 2: Sam Kuypers</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d/">Ep 2: Sam Kuypers</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d/&notes=Ep 2: Sam Kuypers">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam Kuypers is a theoretical physicist who works on quantum information among other things and is a fellow of Conjecture Institute. To learn more about Sam's work see his blog https://substack.com/@samuelkuypers or scroll down to find Sam here at https://www.conjectureinstitute.org/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-9oPdKF02Agx/">Conjecture Institute</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d/">Ep 2: Sam Kuypers</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d/&notes=Ep 2: Sam Kuypers">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/conjecture-institute-conjectureinstitute-xecRn1X52Dy-9oPdKF02Agx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam Kuypers is a theoretical physicist who works on quantum information among other things and is a fellow of Conjecture Institute. To learn more about Sam's work see his blog https://substack.com/@samuelkuypers or scroll down to find Sam here at https://www.conjectureinstitute.org/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from conjectureinstitute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Conjecture Institute
Episode: Ep 2: Sam Kuypers
Pub date: 2025-05-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/00279c08f205419ba19ff1a74ed7b35d/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 00:29:23 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-TGxe0AypXg4/">Living Mirrors with Dr. James Cooke</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b15de5c4d924e0886f775feb0ae162c/">Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7b15de5c4d924e0886f775feb0ae162c/&notes=Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-PTiEuGDfHJq-TGxe0AypXg4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Michael Levin is a developmental and synthetic biologist and a professor at Tufts University. He is known for co-discovering Xenobots which are living robots made from frog skin cells but his research is wide ranging, contributing to fields such as regenerative medicine and the treatment of cancer, as well as to our fundamental understanding of biological systems. As you'll hear from our conversation, Michaels' innovative science is based in a very thorough and rigorous philosophy of the intersection between biology and cognitive processes such as intelligence and memory. http://drmichaellevin.org/ https://thoughtforms.life/<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. James Cooke, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-TGxe0AypXg4/">Living Mirrors with Dr. James Cooke</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b15de5c4d924e0886f775feb0ae162c/">Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7b15de5c4d924e0886f775feb0ae162c/&notes=Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-PTiEuGDfHJq-TGxe0AypXg4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Michael Levin is a developmental and synthetic biologist and a professor at Tufts University. He is known for co-discovering Xenobots which are living robots made from frog skin cells but his research is wide ranging, contributing to fields such as regenerative medicine and the treatment of cancer, as well as to our fundamental understanding of biological systems. As you'll hear from our conversation, Michaels' innovative science is based in a very thorough and rigorous philosophy of the intersection between biology and cognitive processes such as intelligence and memory. http://drmichaellevin.org/ https://thoughtforms.life/<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. James Cooke, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Living Mirrors with Dr. James Cooke
Episode: Michael Levin on the intelligence of life| Living Mirrors #124
Pub date: 2024-01-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b15de5c4d924e0886f775feb0ae162c/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:36:21 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Part 1 of 2 &quot;Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter&quot; Professor Michael Levin</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-8-aKpIlmnGW/">The Dov Baron Show</a> (LS 51 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78/">Part 1 of 2 "Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter" Professor Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78/&notes=Part 1 of 2 "Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter" Professor Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-qNHrRcnoyz--8-aKpIlmnGW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>"Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter: Professor Michael Levin's Insights on The Dov Baron Show"</p> <p>.</p> <p>Introduction: In this episode of "The Dov Baron Show," we're once again stepping into a riveting exploration of the boundaries where science meets consciousness. Join us as Professor Michael Levin, a distinguished figure at the forefront of developmental biophysics and synthetic biology, unveils groundbreaking research that could revolutionize our understanding of life itself. . We'll pull back the curtain on regenerative medicine and examine the synthetic biology of novel life forms. Professor Levin's work at Tufts University and Harvard's Weiss Institute challenges our conventional views on biology and technology. . Prepare to expand your perception of reality in this mind-bending journey into quantum effects.</p> <p>Join us on "The Dov Baron Show" as we unravel these profound insights with Professor Michael Levin, challenging what we know about life, intelligence, and the very fabric of reality.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Key Learnings:</p> <p>The Essence of Curiosity: Understand why curiosity is not just beneficial but essential in today's complex world, helping us navigate immense social and scientific challenges.</p> <p> </p> <p>Science vs. Dogma: Explore the tension between established scientific paradigies and the openness required for innovative breakthroughs.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Inertia of Ideas: Learn about the systemic inertia that often prevents new scientific ideas from being accepted and how it compares to religious dogmatism.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Redefining Intelligence: Discover a broader, more inclusive definition of intelligence that goes beyond human capacities and encompasses a wide range of life forms.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Problem Solving Across Species: Examine how different organisms and systems solve problems and adapt to their environments, redefining our concepts of intelligence.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Role of Autonomy in Intelligence: Delve into how autonomy and problem-solving capabilities contribute to our understanding of intelligence across various domains.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Scientific Methodology in Questioning Beliefs: Learn the importance of establishing clear criteria for changing one's scientific or personal viewpoints, promoting a more dynamic and flexible approach to knowledge.</p> <p>.</p> Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a> <p>-------------</p> <p>Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING."</p> <p>The course is divided into eight sections, each of which will guide you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Because: <em>CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.</em></p> <p>Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization!</p> <p>Curious to know more? <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><em> "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe"</em></p> <p>#leadership</p> <p>#leadershipdevelopment</p> <p>#emotionsourcecode</p> <p>#neuroscience</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#meaning</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#logic</p> <p>#culture</p> #curiosity #humanbehavior
<p><p><strong>Connect with Dov Baron:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://dovbaron.com/">https://DovBaron.com</a></li><li><a href="mailto:dov@dovbaron.com">dov@dovbaron.com</a></li></ul><p>Rate, review, and send this episode to the most thoughtful builder you know. That is how the algorithm finds the people who still ask why.</p></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dov Baron, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-8-aKpIlmnGW/">The Dov Baron Show</a> (LS 51 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78/">Part 1 of 2 "Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter" Professor Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78/&notes=Part 1 of 2 "Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter" Professor Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-qNHrRcnoyz--8-aKpIlmnGW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>"Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter: Professor Michael Levin's Insights on The Dov Baron Show"</p> <p>.</p> <p>Introduction: In this episode of "The Dov Baron Show," we're once again stepping into a riveting exploration of the boundaries where science meets consciousness. Join us as Professor Michael Levin, a distinguished figure at the forefront of developmental biophysics and synthetic biology, unveils groundbreaking research that could revolutionize our understanding of life itself. . We'll pull back the curtain on regenerative medicine and examine the synthetic biology of novel life forms. Professor Levin's work at Tufts University and Harvard's Weiss Institute challenges our conventional views on biology and technology. . Prepare to expand your perception of reality in this mind-bending journey into quantum effects.</p> <p>Join us on "The Dov Baron Show" as we unravel these profound insights with Professor Michael Levin, challenging what we know about life, intelligence, and the very fabric of reality.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Key Learnings:</p> <p>The Essence of Curiosity: Understand why curiosity is not just beneficial but essential in today's complex world, helping us navigate immense social and scientific challenges.</p> <p> </p> <p>Science vs. Dogma: Explore the tension between established scientific paradigies and the openness required for innovative breakthroughs.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Inertia of Ideas: Learn about the systemic inertia that often prevents new scientific ideas from being accepted and how it compares to religious dogmatism.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Redefining Intelligence: Discover a broader, more inclusive definition of intelligence that goes beyond human capacities and encompasses a wide range of life forms.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Problem Solving Across Species: Examine how different organisms and systems solve problems and adapt to their environments, redefining our concepts of intelligence.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Role of Autonomy in Intelligence: Delve into how autonomy and problem-solving capabilities contribute to our understanding of intelligence across various domains.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Scientific Methodology in Questioning Beliefs: Learn the importance of establishing clear criteria for changing one's scientific or personal viewpoints, promoting a more dynamic and flexible approach to knowledge.</p> <p>.</p> Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a> <p>-------------</p> <p>Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING."</p> <p>The course is divided into eight sections, each of which will guide you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Because: <em>CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.</em></p> <p>Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization!</p> <p>Curious to know more? <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><em> "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe"</em></p> <p>#leadership</p> <p>#leadershipdevelopment</p> <p>#emotionsourcecode</p> <p>#neuroscience</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#meaning</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#logic</p> <p>#culture</p> #curiosity #humanbehavior
<p><p><strong>Connect with Dov Baron:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://dovbaron.com/">https://DovBaron.com</a></li><li><a href="mailto:dov@dovbaron.com">dov@dovbaron.com</a></li></ul><p>Rate, review, and send this episode to the most thoughtful builder you know. That is how the algorithm finds the people who still ask why.</p></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dov Baron, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Part 1 of 2 "Unlocking the Mysteries of Mind and Matter" Professor Michael Levin
Pub date: 2024-12-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/da1f62d9554a4f8a8d104b4e14c68b78/

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            <author>Dov Baron</author>



            
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            <title>Part 2 of 2: &quot;Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness&quot; Professor Michael Levin</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-8-aKpIlmnGW/">The Dov Baron Show</a> (LS 51 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c55b21930e494402989ad5fd7d1aaf05/">Part 2 of 2: "Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness" Professor Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c55b21930e494402989ad5fd7d1aaf05/&notes=Part 2 of 2: "Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness" Professor Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-qNHrRcnoyz--8-aKpIlmnGW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>"Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness with Professor Michael Levin on The Dov Baron Show"</p> <p>Introduction: Tune in to this episode of "The Dov Baron Show" for a journey that challenges the very foundations of what you believe about mind, body, and the potential of human consciousness. We're diving into the second part of our enlightening conversation with Professor Michael Levin. A distinguished professor at Tufts University and a pioneer in developmental biophysics and cognitive science. . Professor Levin brings us closer to understanding the interplay between genetic intelligence and consciousness. From the mysteries of cellular intelligence to the transformative potential of collective consciousness, prepare to rethink everything you know about your own mind and body.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Key Learnings:</p> <p>Expanding the Definition of Intelligence: Explore the intelligence embedded within our genetic architecture, revealing how cells and genes respond adaptively to external cues.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Consciousness vs. Intelligence: What's the distinction between consciousness and intelligence, emphasizing consciousness as a deeply personal, first-person experience that transcends empirical study.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Impact of Epigenetics: Understand the significant role of epigenetics in shaping our genetic expression and responses, highlighting the dynamic interaction between our genes and environmental factors.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Collective Intelligence of Cells: Discover how the collective intelligence of cells contributes to the emergent properties of consciousness and how individual cells contribute to our unified sense of self.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Harnessing Cellular Memory: Learn about the remarkable ability of gene regulatory networks to exhibit memory and learning, akin to Pavlovian conditioning, which has profound implications for medical science.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Alchemy of Consciousness: Reflect on consciousness as an alchemical process that transforms us, driven by curiosity and the willingness to explore the uncomfortable or unknown.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Pharmacology and Conscious Influence: Consider the future role of pharmacology not just as symptom management but as an interface for profound physiological and psychological changes.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Philosophical and Practical Implications: Engage with thought-provoking philosophical discussions on the nature of consciousness, its relationship with physical health, and the evolution of medicine to embrace these complex interactions.</p> <p>.</p> <p>.</p> Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a> <p>-------------</p> <p>Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING."</p> <p>The course is divided into eight sections, each of which will guide you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Because: <em>CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.</em></p> <p>Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization!</p> <p>Are you curious to know more? <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><em> "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe"</em></p> <p>#leadership</p> <p>#leadershipdevelopment</p> <p>#emotionsourcecode</p> <p>#neuroscience</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#meaning</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#logic</p> <p>#culture</p> #curiosity #humanbehavior <p> </p>
<p><p><strong>Connect with Dov Baron:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://dovbaron.com/">https://DovBaron.com</a></li><li><a href="mailto:dov@dovbaron.com">dov@dovbaron.com</a></li></ul><p>Rate, review, and send this episode to the most thoughtful builder you know. That is how the algorithm finds the people who still ask why.</p></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dov Baron, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-8-aKpIlmnGW/">The Dov Baron Show</a> (LS 51 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c55b21930e494402989ad5fd7d1aaf05/">Part 2 of 2: "Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness" Professor Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c55b21930e494402989ad5fd7d1aaf05/&notes=Part 2 of 2: "Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness" Professor Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-dov-baron-show-dov-baron-qNHrRcnoyz--8-aKpIlmnGW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>"Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness with Professor Michael Levin on The Dov Baron Show"</p> <p>Introduction: Tune in to this episode of "The Dov Baron Show" for a journey that challenges the very foundations of what you believe about mind, body, and the potential of human consciousness. We're diving into the second part of our enlightening conversation with Professor Michael Levin. A distinguished professor at Tufts University and a pioneer in developmental biophysics and cognitive science. . Professor Levin brings us closer to understanding the interplay between genetic intelligence and consciousness. From the mysteries of cellular intelligence to the transformative potential of collective consciousness, prepare to rethink everything you know about your own mind and body.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Key Learnings:</p> <p>Expanding the Definition of Intelligence: Explore the intelligence embedded within our genetic architecture, revealing how cells and genes respond adaptively to external cues.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Consciousness vs. Intelligence: What's the distinction between consciousness and intelligence, emphasizing consciousness as a deeply personal, first-person experience that transcends empirical study.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Impact of Epigenetics: Understand the significant role of epigenetics in shaping our genetic expression and responses, highlighting the dynamic interaction between our genes and environmental factors.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Collective Intelligence of Cells: Discover how the collective intelligence of cells contributes to the emergent properties of consciousness and how individual cells contribute to our unified sense of self.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Harnessing Cellular Memory: Learn about the remarkable ability of gene regulatory networks to exhibit memory and learning, akin to Pavlovian conditioning, which has profound implications for medical science.</p> <p>.</p> <p>The Alchemy of Consciousness: Reflect on consciousness as an alchemical process that transforms us, driven by curiosity and the willingness to explore the uncomfortable or unknown.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Pharmacology and Conscious Influence: Consider the future role of pharmacology not just as symptom management but as an interface for profound physiological and psychological changes.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Philosophical and Practical Implications: Engage with thought-provoking philosophical discussions on the nature of consciousness, its relationship with physical health, and the evolution of medicine to embrace these complex interactions.</p> <p>.</p> <p>.</p> Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a> <p>-------------</p> <p>Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING."</p> <p>The course is divided into eight sections, each of which will guide you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Because: <em>CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.</em></p> <p>Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization!</p> <p>Are you curious to know more? <a href="http://coursifyx.com/belonging">coursifyx.com/belonging</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><em> "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe"</em></p> <p>#leadership</p> <p>#leadershipdevelopment</p> <p>#emotionsourcecode</p> <p>#neuroscience</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#meaning</p> <p>#emotional</p> <p>#logic</p> <p>#culture</p> #curiosity #humanbehavior <p> </p>
<p><p><strong>Connect with Dov Baron:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://dovbaron.com/">https://DovBaron.com</a></li><li><a href="mailto:dov@dovbaron.com">dov@dovbaron.com</a></li></ul><p>Rate, review, and send this episode to the most thoughtful builder you know. That is how the algorithm finds the people who still ask why.</p></p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dov Baron, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <title>Dr. Michael Levin on Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution-erik-torenberg-S0w8mbW2G_e/">"The Cognitive Revolution" </a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/21f09f46cf17428ba5ec39637809d006/">Dr. Michael Levin on Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-02-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/21f09f46cf17428ba5ec39637809d006/&notes=Dr. Michael Levin on Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-WIC2k4lz_xa-S0w8mbW2G_e.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Dr Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, joins Nathan to discuss embodied minds, his research into limb regeneration and collective intelligence, cognitive light cones, and much more. Michael and the Levin Lab work at the intersection of biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science.</p><p><br /></p><p>LINKS:</p><p>The Levin Lab and Dr. Michael Levin’s research: <a href="https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/">https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/</a></p><p>Dr Michael Levin’s blog: <a href="https://thoughtforms.life/about/">https://thoughtforms.life/about/</a></p><p>Tufts University Faculty Profile: <a href="https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin">https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin</a></p><p>Michael Levin @ Wyss Institute: <a href="https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/">https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/</a></p><p>Dr. Levin’s Research on Limb Regeneration: <a href="https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs">https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs</a></p><p><br /></p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p>The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at <a href="https://brave.com/api">https://brave.com/api</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off <a href="www.omneky.com">www.omneky.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: <a href="http://netsuite.com/cognitive">http://netsuite.com/cognitive</a> and download your own customized KPI checklist.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>X/SOCIAL</p><p>@labenz (Nathan)</p><p>@drmichaellevin (Michael)</p><p>@CogRev_Podcast</p><p><br /></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>(00:00) Preview</p><p>(01:07) Intro and summary</p><p>(05:40) Xenobots, anthrobots and the other creatures created by Mike Levin</p><p>(09:39) Bioelectric memory rewriting</p><p>(15:01) Sponsor | BraveSearch API</p><p>(16:09) The difficulty of conducting simulations, which involve running forward passes to predict and alter electrical patterns</p><p>(20:30) The concept of backpropagation and mode switching in AI models</p><p>(23:06) Why humans do not regenerate their limbs</p><p>(37:10) Sponsor | Netsuite</p><p>(39:40) Learning from small and biological systems onto the concept of possible emergence</p><p>(45:16) The criticality of multiple scale questions and would a single scale?</p><p>(55:49) The concept of the cognitive light cone</p><p>(59:43) Advice on habits of mind and suggestions for inspiration on the AI side</p><p>(1:13:36) Mike's suggested directions for the AI developers</p><p>(1:24:49) Wrap &amp; Sponsor | Omneky</p><p><br /></p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at <a href="mailto:erik@turpentine.co">erik@turpentine.co</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution-erik-torenberg-S0w8mbW2G_e/">"The Cognitive Revolution" </a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/21f09f46cf17428ba5ec39637809d006/">Dr. Michael Levin on Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-02-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/21f09f46cf17428ba5ec39637809d006/&notes=Dr. Michael Levin on Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-WIC2k4lz_xa-S0w8mbW2G_e.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Dr Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, joins Nathan to discuss embodied minds, his research into limb regeneration and collective intelligence, cognitive light cones, and much more. Michael and the Levin Lab work at the intersection of biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science.</p><p><br /></p><p>LINKS:</p><p>The Levin Lab and Dr. Michael Levin’s research: <a href="https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/">https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/</a></p><p>Dr Michael Levin’s blog: <a href="https://thoughtforms.life/about/">https://thoughtforms.life/about/</a></p><p>Tufts University Faculty Profile: <a href="https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin">https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin</a></p><p>Michael Levin @ Wyss Institute: <a href="https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/">https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/</a></p><p>Dr. Levin’s Research on Limb Regeneration: <a href="https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs">https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs</a></p><p><br /></p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p>The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at <a href="https://brave.com/api">https://brave.com/api</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off <a href="www.omneky.com">www.omneky.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: <a href="http://netsuite.com/cognitive">http://netsuite.com/cognitive</a> and download your own customized KPI checklist.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>X/SOCIAL</p><p>@labenz (Nathan)</p><p>@drmichaellevin (Michael)</p><p>@CogRev_Podcast</p><p><br /></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>(00:00) Preview</p><p>(01:07) Intro and summary</p><p>(05:40) Xenobots, anthrobots and the other creatures created by Mike Levin</p><p>(09:39) Bioelectric memory rewriting</p><p>(15:01) Sponsor | BraveSearch API</p><p>(16:09) The difficulty of conducting simulations, which involve running forward passes to predict and alter electrical patterns</p><p>(20:30) The concept of backpropagation and mode switching in AI models</p><p>(23:06) Why humans do not regenerate their limbs</p><p>(37:10) Sponsor | Netsuite</p><p>(39:40) Learning from small and biological systems onto the concept of possible emergence</p><p>(45:16) The criticality of multiple scale questions and would a single scale?</p><p>(55:49) The concept of the cognitive light cone</p><p>(59:43) Advice on habits of mind and suggestions for inspiration on the AI side</p><p>(1:13:36) Mike's suggested directions for the AI developers</p><p>(1:24:49) Wrap &amp; Sponsor | Omneky</p><p><br /></p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. 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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/upstream-with-erik-torenberg-erik-torenberg-wWv-ZH2d1D9/">"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg</a> (LS 39 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3b5547cdb23b40f7aedd5877eb743afe/">E87: Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents with Dr. Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3b5547cdb23b40f7aedd5877eb743afe/&notes=E87: Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents with Dr. Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/upstream-with-erik-torenberg-erik-torenberg-axAZKFcbLnk-wWv-ZH2d1D9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Dr. Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, joins Nathan Labenz of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast to discuss embodied minds, his research into limb regeneration and collective intelligence, cognitive light cones, and much more. Dr. Levin and the Levin Lab work at the intersection of biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nathan just recorded a second episode with Michael Levin and Leo Pio Lopez here: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0PsvToTZVtZkdTemV6ntUk?si=85e4614f079a4fcd">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0PsvToTZVtZkdTemV6ntUk?si=85e4614f079a4fcd</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: <a href="https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess">https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess</a> </p><p>—</p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: </p><p><br /></p><p>🎙️The Cognitive Revolution Podcast</p><p>The Cognitive Revolution is a podcast about AI where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock over the next decades. </p><p>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk?si=7357ec31ac424043">https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk?si=7357ec31ac424043</a>  </p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431</a>  </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p><br /></p><p>🎙️ <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine">Dealcraft | Insights from Great Negotiators </a></p><p>is the brand new weekly podcast that features interviews with world’s greatest dealmakers and diplomats, including Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman, and music industry super-lawyer John Branca, on their most challenging negotiations. Each episode, host Jim Sebenius (Harvard Business School professor and renowned negotiation expert) relates fascinating deal stories and distills useful insights for listeners to apply in their toughest deals and disputes.</p><p>Subscribe on all platofrms: <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine">https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine</a></p><p><br /></p><p>📝 Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at <a href="https://www.notion.com/product/ai?utm_source=podcasts&amp;utm_medium=upstreampod">notion.com/upstreampod</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com/">https://choosesquad.com/</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>LINKS:</p><p><br /></p><p>The Levin Lab and Dr. Michael Levin’s research: <a href="https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/">https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/</a> </p><p>Dr Michael Levin’s blog: <a href="https://thoughtforms.life/about/">https://thoughtforms.life/about/</a> </p><p>Tufts University Faculty Profile: <a href="https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin">https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin</a> </p><p>Michael Levin @ Wyss Institute: <a href="https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/">https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/</a> </p><p>Dr. Levin’s Research on Limb Regeneration: <a href="https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs">https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>X / TWITTER:</p><p><br /></p><p>@labenz (Nathan)</p><p>@drmichaellevin (Michael)</p><p>@CogRev_Podcast</p><p>@TurpentineMedia</p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p><br /></p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(04:50) Xenobots, anthrobots and the other creatures created by Mike Levin</p><p>(08:50) Bioelectric memory rewriting</p><p>(14:09) Sponsors: Dealcraft | Notion</p><p>(16:17) The difficulty of conducting simulations, which involve running forward passes to predict and alter electrical patterns</p><p>(20:38) The concept of backpropagation and mode switching in AI models</p><p>(23:12) Why humans do not regenerate their limbs</p><p>(37:10) Sponsor: Squad</p><p>(38:19) Learning from small and biological systems onto the concept of possible emergence</p><p>(45:01) The criticality of multiple scale questions and would a single scale?</p><p>(55:40) The concept of the cognitive light cone</p><p>(59:34) Advice on habits of mind and suggestions for inspiration on the AI side</p><p>(1:13:19) Mike's suggested directions for the AI developers</p><p>(1:23:41) Wrap</p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/upstream-with-erik-torenberg-erik-torenberg-wWv-ZH2d1D9/">"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg</a> (LS 39 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3b5547cdb23b40f7aedd5877eb743afe/">E87: Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents with Dr. Michael Levin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3b5547cdb23b40f7aedd5877eb743afe/&notes=E87: Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents with Dr. Michael Levin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/upstream-with-erik-torenberg-erik-torenberg-axAZKFcbLnk-wWv-ZH2d1D9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Dr. Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, joins Nathan Labenz of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast to discuss embodied minds, his research into limb regeneration and collective intelligence, cognitive light cones, and much more. Dr. Levin and the Levin Lab work at the intersection of biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nathan just recorded a second episode with Michael Levin and Leo Pio Lopez here: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0PsvToTZVtZkdTemV6ntUk?si=85e4614f079a4fcd">https://open.spotify.com/episode/0PsvToTZVtZkdTemV6ntUk?si=85e4614f079a4fcd</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: <a href="https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess">https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess</a> </p><p>—</p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: </p><p><br /></p><p>🎙️The Cognitive Revolution Podcast</p><p>The Cognitive Revolution is a podcast about AI where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock over the next decades. </p><p>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk?si=7357ec31ac424043">https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk?si=7357ec31ac424043</a>  </p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431</a>  </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p><br /></p><p>🎙️ <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine">Dealcraft | Insights from Great Negotiators </a></p><p>is the brand new weekly podcast that features interviews with world’s greatest dealmakers and diplomats, including Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman, and music industry super-lawyer John Branca, on their most challenging negotiations. Each episode, host Jim Sebenius (Harvard Business School professor and renowned negotiation expert) relates fascinating deal stories and distills useful insights for listeners to apply in their toughest deals and disputes.</p><p>Subscribe on all platofrms: <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine">https://link.chtbl.com/3CG3TbHY?sid=Turpentine</a></p><p><br /></p><p>📝 Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at <a href="https://www.notion.com/product/ai?utm_source=podcasts&amp;utm_medium=upstreampod">notion.com/upstreampod</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com/">https://choosesquad.com/</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>LINKS:</p><p><br /></p><p>The Levin Lab and Dr. Michael Levin’s research: <a href="https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/">https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/</a> </p><p>Dr Michael Levin’s blog: <a href="https://thoughtforms.life/about/">https://thoughtforms.life/about/</a> </p><p>Tufts University Faculty Profile: <a href="https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin">https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin</a> </p><p>Michael Levin @ Wyss Institute: <a href="https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/">https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/</a> </p><p>Dr. Levin’s Research on Limb Regeneration: <a href="https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs">https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>X / TWITTER:</p><p><br /></p><p>@labenz (Nathan)</p><p>@drmichaellevin (Michael)</p><p>@CogRev_Podcast</p><p>@TurpentineMedia</p><p><br /></p><p>—</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p><br /></p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(04:50) Xenobots, anthrobots and the other creatures created by Mike Levin</p><p>(08:50) Bioelectric memory rewriting</p><p>(14:09) Sponsors: Dealcraft | Notion</p><p>(16:17) The difficulty of conducting simulations, which involve running forward passes to predict and alter electrical patterns</p><p>(20:38) The concept of backpropagation and mode switching in AI models</p><p>(23:12) Why humans do not regenerate their limbs</p><p>(37:10) Sponsor: Squad</p><p>(38:19) Learning from small and biological systems onto the concept of possible emergence</p><p>(45:01) The criticality of multiple scale questions and would a single scale?</p><p>(55:40) The concept of the cognitive light cone</p><p>(59:34) Advice on habits of mind and suggestions for inspiration on the AI side</p><p>(1:13:19) Mike's suggested directions for the AI developers</p><p>(1:23:41) Wrap</p><br /> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: "Upstream" with Erik Torenberg
Episode: E87: Embodied Minds and Cognitive Agents with Dr. Michael Levin
Pub date: 2024-10-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3b5547cdb23b40f7aedd5877eb743afe/

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            <author>Erik Torenberg</author>



            
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            <title>Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/475746c7052e4816a24f0cbbc611e01f/">Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/475746c7052e4816a24f0cbbc611e01f/&notes=Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Dr. Michael Levin explains how bioelectric signals govern cell communication, tissue regeneration, and intelligence across biology, and how decoding these electrical memories could enable limb regrowth, cancer suppression, and the creation of novel organs.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Introduction<br />- 02:45 - The Role of Bioelectricity in Medicine<br />- 7:00 - Multi-Scale Problem Solving<br />- 7:55 - The Intelligence of Development<br />- 11:41 - Decoding Electrical Memories<br />- 12:29 - The Power of Bioelectric Signals<br />- 13:20 - Rewiring Cellular Communication<br />- 15:29 - Cancer and Cellular Networks<br />- 16:30 - Birth Defects and Bioelectricity<br />- 18:28 - Regeneration and Bioelectric Pathways<br />- 22:50 - Inducing Novel Organs<br />- 25:35 - The Future of Medicine<br />- 26:24 - Audience Interaction and Questions<br />- 31:34 - The Future of Bioelectricity<br />- 38:55 - Integrating Bioelectricity with Evolution<br />- 44:17 - Preventative Strategies in Medicine<br />- 45:45 - Closing Remarks and Resources<br />- 46:30 - Conclusion<br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Michael Levin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s<br />- The Levin Lab (website): https://drmichaellevin.org/<br />- Michael’s blog: https://thoughtforms.life/<br />- Michael’s presentations: https://drmichaellevin.org/presentations/<br />- Michael and colleagues discussing anthrobots and other groundbreaking research on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG6GIzNM0aM<br />- ekkólapto (website): https://www.ekkolapto.org/<br />- ekkólapto Events: https://lu.ma/calendar/cal-GqNtzHBC2j8ARjb<br />- Curt Jaimungal’s presentation at Polymath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCkMyjzQDeg<br />- Will Hahn on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4R7eh5f_M<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/475746c7052e4816a24f0cbbc611e01f/">Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/475746c7052e4816a24f0cbbc611e01f/&notes=Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Dr. Michael Levin explains how bioelectric signals govern cell communication, tissue regeneration, and intelligence across biology, and how decoding these electrical memories could enable limb regrowth, cancer suppression, and the creation of novel organs.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Introduction<br />- 02:45 - The Role of Bioelectricity in Medicine<br />- 7:00 - Multi-Scale Problem Solving<br />- 7:55 - The Intelligence of Development<br />- 11:41 - Decoding Electrical Memories<br />- 12:29 - The Power of Bioelectric Signals<br />- 13:20 - Rewiring Cellular Communication<br />- 15:29 - Cancer and Cellular Networks<br />- 16:30 - Birth Defects and Bioelectricity<br />- 18:28 - Regeneration and Bioelectric Pathways<br />- 22:50 - Inducing Novel Organs<br />- 25:35 - The Future of Medicine<br />- 26:24 - Audience Interaction and Questions<br />- 31:34 - The Future of Bioelectricity<br />- 38:55 - Integrating Bioelectricity with Evolution<br />- 44:17 - Preventative Strategies in Medicine<br />- 45:45 - Closing Remarks and Resources<br />- 46:30 - Conclusion<br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Michael Levin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s<br />- The Levin Lab (website): https://drmichaellevin.org/<br />- Michael’s blog: https://thoughtforms.life/<br />- Michael’s presentations: https://drmichaellevin.org/presentations/<br />- Michael and colleagues discussing anthrobots and other groundbreaking research on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG6GIzNM0aM<br />- ekkólapto (website): https://www.ekkolapto.org/<br />- ekkólapto Events: https://lu.ma/calendar/cal-GqNtzHBC2j8ARjb<br />- Curt Jaimungal’s presentation at Polymath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCkMyjzQDeg<br />- Will Hahn on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4R7eh5f_M<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
Episode: Michael Levin: Bioelectric Signals That Reprogram Living Organisms
Pub date: 2025-03-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/475746c7052e4816a24f0cbbc611e01f/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/141b571795d04ec7bc940728e63fbde6/">Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/141b571795d04ec7bc940728e63fbde6/&notes=Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Developmental biologist Michael Levin and cognitive scientist Anna Ciaunica discuss how cellular intelligence reshapes our understanding of consciousness, memory, and embodiment. They argue that the self emerges from the collective behavior of cells and that biology’s goal‑directed systems extend far beyond the brain.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Opening<br />- 01:42 - Biggest myths in biology and neuroscience<br />- 03:18 - Anna on self emerging from cells<br />- 04:10 - Critique of adult‑centric views<br />- 05:15 - Dropping old conceptual epicycles<br />- 07:45 - Continuity from single cells to minds<br />- 09:28 - Memory, metaphors, shifting perspectives<br />- 10:46 - Bridging silos and interdisciplinarity<br />- 13:04 - Development, evolution, goal‑directed systems<br />- 17:05 - Expanding goal‑seeking in biology<br />- 25:12 - Depression, body states, self‑regulation<br />- 31:57 - Aging, goals, “having nothing left to do”<br />- 41:10 - Pregnancy, immune systems, sharing a self<br />- 51:08 - Interconnectedness as fundamental to selfhood<br />- 57:56 - Story we tell vs agency of thoughts<br />- 1:07:00 - Rewriting “you”: caterpillars, butterflies, memory<br />- 1:16:15 - Final thoughts: self as ongoing embodied process<br />- 1:24:01 - Closing remarks and where to find more<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Michael Levin's website: https://drmichaellevin.org/<br />- Anna Ciaunica's website: https://annaciaunica.fr/<br />- Curt's previous talk with Michael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s&amp;t=3924s&amp;ab_channel=CurtJaimungal<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p>

<p>FOLLOW: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">Substack</a> | <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://youtube.com/TheoriesOfEverything">YouTube</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt">Twitter</a></p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/141b571795d04ec7bc940728e63fbde6/">Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/141b571795d04ec7bc940728e63fbde6/&notes=Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Developmental biologist Michael Levin and cognitive scientist Anna Ciaunica discuss how cellular intelligence reshapes our understanding of consciousness, memory, and embodiment. They argue that the self emerges from the collective behavior of cells and that biology’s goal‑directed systems extend far beyond the brain.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Opening<br />- 01:42 - Biggest myths in biology and neuroscience<br />- 03:18 - Anna on self emerging from cells<br />- 04:10 - Critique of adult‑centric views<br />- 05:15 - Dropping old conceptual epicycles<br />- 07:45 - Continuity from single cells to minds<br />- 09:28 - Memory, metaphors, shifting perspectives<br />- 10:46 - Bridging silos and interdisciplinarity<br />- 13:04 - Development, evolution, goal‑directed systems<br />- 17:05 - Expanding goal‑seeking in biology<br />- 25:12 - Depression, body states, self‑regulation<br />- 31:57 - Aging, goals, “having nothing left to do”<br />- 41:10 - Pregnancy, immune systems, sharing a self<br />- 51:08 - Interconnectedness as fundamental to selfhood<br />- 57:56 - Story we tell vs agency of thoughts<br />- 1:07:00 - Rewriting “you”: caterpillars, butterflies, memory<br />- 1:16:15 - Final thoughts: self as ongoing embodied process<br />- 1:24:01 - Closing remarks and where to find more<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Michael Levin's website: https://drmichaellevin.org/<br />- Anna Ciaunica's website: https://annaciaunica.fr/<br />- Curt's previous talk with Michael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s&amp;t=3924s&amp;ab_channel=CurtJaimungal<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p>

<p>FOLLOW: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">Substack</a> | <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://youtube.com/TheoriesOfEverything">YouTube</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt">Twitter</a></p>

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Podcast: Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
Episode: Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain
Pub date: 2025-01-29

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/141b571795d04ec7bc940728e63fbde6/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:34:57 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ruffian-ian-leslie-3YyFUJtpeKL/">The Ruffian</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1adc80243e5472ca77405fe48bf7e76/">The Improving Mentality</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a1adc80243e5472ca77405fe48bf7e76/&notes=The Improving Mentality">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ruffian-Dnh_zjbFNOB-3YyFUJtpeKL.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of The Ruffian’s podcast we discuss what is possibly the single most important event in human history: the Industrial Revolution. If you look at all the economic data before (very roughly) 1780-1840, you see flat lines. Afterwards, everything starts going up, and continually. It's not just GDP - human welfare is transformed. Human became much more numerous and at the same time much richer, longer lived, and healthier.</p><p>The Industrial Revolution wasn't just about coal and steel and factories. More fundamentally, it was the moment we learned how to continually get more value out of the same or fewer resources. The discovery of productivity growth transformed the human condition.</p><p>But there are big unsolved questions about the origins of this transformation. Why did it happen at that time and not earlier? Even more puzzlingly, why did it happen first in Britain, and not, say, France, or the Netherlands, or China? Historians have debated these questions for decades. Some point to material factors like the price of labour and natural resources; others think that culture was more important. My guest leans toward the latter explanation, although as you’ll see, he has his own particular take on it.<a href="https://www.antonhowes.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Anton Howes</strong></a> is an historian of innovation who is currently writing a book on the Industrial Revolution's origins based on his deep research into the leading inventors and entrepreneurs of the era. He has a popular Substack called <a href="https://www.ageofinvention.xyz/" target="_blank"><strong>The Age of Invention</strong></a><strong> </strong>in which he shares some of the amazing stories he has uncovered. I’m delighted to have him on the show.This is part one of our conversation, in which we discuss Anton’s idea of  “the improving mentality”, the mindset that he sees as underpinning the Industrial Revolution, and why it became widespread in Britain first of all. In part two, for paid subscribers only, we discuss why most of the action took place in the north of England rather than in London.Enjoy!</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.ian-leslie.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.ian-leslie.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ian Leslie, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ruffian-ian-leslie-3YyFUJtpeKL/">The Ruffian</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1adc80243e5472ca77405fe48bf7e76/">The Improving Mentality</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-05-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a1adc80243e5472ca77405fe48bf7e76/&notes=The Improving Mentality">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ruffian-Dnh_zjbFNOB-3YyFUJtpeKL.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of The Ruffian’s podcast we discuss what is possibly the single most important event in human history: the Industrial Revolution. If you look at all the economic data before (very roughly) 1780-1840, you see flat lines. Afterwards, everything starts going up, and continually. It's not just GDP - human welfare is transformed. Human became much more numerous and at the same time much richer, longer lived, and healthier.</p><p>The Industrial Revolution wasn't just about coal and steel and factories. More fundamentally, it was the moment we learned how to continually get more value out of the same or fewer resources. The discovery of productivity growth transformed the human condition.</p><p>But there are big unsolved questions about the origins of this transformation. Why did it happen at that time and not earlier? Even more puzzlingly, why did it happen first in Britain, and not, say, France, or the Netherlands, or China? Historians have debated these questions for decades. Some point to material factors like the price of labour and natural resources; others think that culture was more important. My guest leans toward the latter explanation, although as you’ll see, he has his own particular take on it.<a href="https://www.antonhowes.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Anton Howes</strong></a> is an historian of innovation who is currently writing a book on the Industrial Revolution's origins based on his deep research into the leading inventors and entrepreneurs of the era. He has a popular Substack called <a href="https://www.ageofinvention.xyz/" target="_blank"><strong>The Age of Invention</strong></a><strong> </strong>in which he shares some of the amazing stories he has uncovered. I’m delighted to have him on the show.This is part one of our conversation, in which we discuss Anton’s idea of  “the improving mentality”, the mindset that he sees as underpinning the Industrial Revolution, and why it became widespread in Britain first of all. In part two, for paid subscribers only, we discuss why most of the action took place in the north of England rather than in London.Enjoy!</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.ian-leslie.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.ian-leslie.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ian Leslie, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Ruffian
Episode: The Improving Mentality
Pub date: 2025-05-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1adc80243e5472ca77405fe48bf7e76/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ian Leslie, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 11:46:45 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ian Leslie</author>



            
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            <title>Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/all-things-negotiation-stan-christensen-0k3bdcajPMy/">All Things Negotiation</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef/">Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef/&notes=Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/all-things-negotiation-FxvdH6NqT0u-0k3bdcajPMy.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Stan interviews Keith Rabois, an esteemed entrepreneur and venture capitalist known for his pivotal role in companies like PayPal, Square, and LinkedIn. Keith discusses the crucial role of persuasion in scaling a company, sharing stories from his early entrepreneurial days and providing valuable advice for startups on raising capital and negotiation. Keith delves into his philosophy of negotiation, the art of hiring relentlessly resourceful talent, managing employee motivation, and the importance of clarity in negotiations. The conversation also explores Keith's approach to investing, emphasizing the need for founders to possess persuasive skills, and highlights memorable pitches from companies like Airbnb. Keith offers practical advice for those looking to break into startups or secure meetings with influential figures. This rich dialogue is filled with actionable insights and real-world examples that aspiring entrepreneurs and investors will find invaluable.</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 The Importance of Persuasion in Scaling a Company</p><p>00:25 Introducing Keith Rabois: Entrepreneur and Investor</p><p>01:16 Keith's Negotiation Philosophy and Tactics</p><p>05:03 Lessons from PayPal and Other Early Ventures</p><p>10:13 Recruiting and Identifying Talent</p><p>14:05 Management and Employee Motivation</p><p>20:22 Transitioning to an Investor Role</p><p>23:16 The Path to CEO: Sales vs. Technical Founders</p><p>24:23 The Art of Persuasive Pitches: Lessons from Airbnb</p><p>27:14 Evaluating Teams: The CEO's Role</p><p>28:33 Friends and Family in Business: Risks and Rewards</p><p>32:03 Navigating Leadership Conflicts: Lessons from PayPal</p><p>34:39 Measuring Inputs vs. Outputs: Risk and Persuasion</p><p>36:28 Career-Changing Persuasion: From Law to Tech</p><p>40:08 Getting Noticed: How to Pitch to Investors</p><p>41:26 Persistence Pays Off: Breaking into Startups</p><p>42:16 Long-Term Relationships in Business</p><p>43:30 Full Circle: A Fun Anecdote</p><p>44:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years. </p><p><br /></p><p>#Negotiation #keithrabois #stanchristensen</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Stan Christensen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/all-things-negotiation-stan-christensen-0k3bdcajPMy/">All Things Negotiation</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef/">Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef/&notes=Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/all-things-negotiation-FxvdH6NqT0u-0k3bdcajPMy.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, Stan interviews Keith Rabois, an esteemed entrepreneur and venture capitalist known for his pivotal role in companies like PayPal, Square, and LinkedIn. Keith discusses the crucial role of persuasion in scaling a company, sharing stories from his early entrepreneurial days and providing valuable advice for startups on raising capital and negotiation. Keith delves into his philosophy of negotiation, the art of hiring relentlessly resourceful talent, managing employee motivation, and the importance of clarity in negotiations. The conversation also explores Keith's approach to investing, emphasizing the need for founders to possess persuasive skills, and highlights memorable pitches from companies like Airbnb. Keith offers practical advice for those looking to break into startups or secure meetings with influential figures. This rich dialogue is filled with actionable insights and real-world examples that aspiring entrepreneurs and investors will find invaluable.</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 The Importance of Persuasion in Scaling a Company</p><p>00:25 Introducing Keith Rabois: Entrepreneur and Investor</p><p>01:16 Keith's Negotiation Philosophy and Tactics</p><p>05:03 Lessons from PayPal and Other Early Ventures</p><p>10:13 Recruiting and Identifying Talent</p><p>14:05 Management and Employee Motivation</p><p>20:22 Transitioning to an Investor Role</p><p>23:16 The Path to CEO: Sales vs. Technical Founders</p><p>24:23 The Art of Persuasive Pitches: Lessons from Airbnb</p><p>27:14 Evaluating Teams: The CEO's Role</p><p>28:33 Friends and Family in Business: Risks and Rewards</p><p>32:03 Navigating Leadership Conflicts: Lessons from PayPal</p><p>34:39 Measuring Inputs vs. Outputs: Risk and Persuasion</p><p>36:28 Career-Changing Persuasion: From Law to Tech</p><p>40:08 Getting Noticed: How to Pitch to Investors</p><p>41:26 Persistence Pays Off: Breaking into Startups</p><p>42:16 Long-Term Relationships in Business</p><p>43:30 Full Circle: A Fun Anecdote</p><p>44:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Host Stan Christensen has spent his career working as a professional negotiator in a variety of arenas. He has also taught a popular course on negotiation at Stanford University for over twenty years. </p><p><br /></p><p>#Negotiation #keithrabois #stanchristensen</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Stan Christensen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: All Things Negotiation
Episode: Keith Rabois: Negotiation Lessons From the Startup Trenches.
Pub date: 2025-04-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9fb67e97590e464280b348b3e03e94ef/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Stan Christensen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2025 09:03:02 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Stan Christensen</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Stan Christensen</itunes:author>
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            <title>Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/11e5d00054554bfebb0b62e79d39ea89/">Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/11e5d00054554bfebb0b62e79d39ea89/&notes=Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Andrés Gómez Emilsson, director of the Qualia Research Institute, examines consciousness from philosophical and scientific perspectives, describing his journey founding QRI to reduce suffering and enhance experience. He discusses psychedelics, the self as a series of experiences, and how sensory resonance (“impedance matching”) shapes awareness.<br /><br />0:00 The Most Important Problem<br />1:49 The Hard Problem and Ontologies<br />5:15 Journey into Consciousness<br />9:06 The Qualia Research Institute<br />10:49 Shattering Realities<br />17:12 Happiness vs. Meaning<br />19:15 Defining Happiness<br />25:28 Psychological Egoism<br />33:45 Understanding Consciousness<br />38:01 The Qualia Research Institute's Goals<br />49:21 Exploring Impedance Matching<br />58:25 The Dance of Dissonance<br />1:03 22 The Nature of Suffering<br />1:10 32 The Concept of Oneness<br />1:17 02 Zero Ontology Explained<br />1:27 20 The Nature of Reality<br />1:28 57 The Self and Sense of Self<br />1:30 53 Stages of Consciousness<br />1:37 35 Transformations in Consciousness<br />1:46 20 The Role of Psychedelics<br />2:02 01 Exploring 5-MeO-DMT<br />2:21 03 Psychedelics and Buddhist Philosophy<br />2:45 32 Insights on Jhana States<br />2:51 31 Conclusion and Reflections<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Qualia Research Institute [Website]: https://qri.org/<br />- Andres’s Qualia profile: https://qri.org/people/andr%C3%A9s-g%C3%B3mez-emilsson<br />- David Chalmers’s 2024 presentation at Mindfest: https://youtu.be/5r9V1ryksnw<br />- Bernardo Kastrup on TOE: https://youtu.be/lAB21FAXCDE<br />- The Hedonistic Imperative [Book]: https://amzn.to/3Di7Xx5<br />- Why Does Anything Exist? [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/B0DKBHMC3C?tag=toe08-20<br />- Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1911597108?tag=toe08-20<br />- Andres on The DemystifySci Podcast: https://youtu.be/jjWDURKNe2Q<br />- ‘Replications’ group on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/replications/<br />- Stuart Hameroff’s Mindfest presentation: https://youtu.be/0_bQwdJir1o<br />- The Doors of Perception [Book]: https://amzn.to/4ijduTb<br />- From Neural Activity to Field Topology [Article]: https://qualiacomputing.com/2025/02/09/from-neural-activity-to-field-topology-how-coupling-kernels-shape-consciousness/<br />- Seeing That Frees [Book]: https://amzn.to/43fm15m<br />- Practicing the Jhanas (meditation series): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO6hhaAzLmiqUzBYuLLJQ8FexOTRxz8xF<br />- The Dalai Lama, Psychedelics &amp; Cher [Article]: https://tricycle.org/article/dalai-lama-psychedelics-cher/<br />- Advice to Sigālaka [Article]: https://suttacentral.net/dn31/en/sujato<br />- Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/11e5d00054554bfebb0b62e79d39ea89/">Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/11e5d00054554bfebb0b62e79d39ea89/&notes=Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Andrés Gómez Emilsson, director of the Qualia Research Institute, examines consciousness from philosophical and scientific perspectives, describing his journey founding QRI to reduce suffering and enhance experience. He discusses psychedelics, the self as a series of experiences, and how sensory resonance (“impedance matching”) shapes awareness.<br /><br />0:00 The Most Important Problem<br />1:49 The Hard Problem and Ontologies<br />5:15 Journey into Consciousness<br />9:06 The Qualia Research Institute<br />10:49 Shattering Realities<br />17:12 Happiness vs. Meaning<br />19:15 Defining Happiness<br />25:28 Psychological Egoism<br />33:45 Understanding Consciousness<br />38:01 The Qualia Research Institute's Goals<br />49:21 Exploring Impedance Matching<br />58:25 The Dance of Dissonance<br />1:03 22 The Nature of Suffering<br />1:10 32 The Concept of Oneness<br />1:17 02 Zero Ontology Explained<br />1:27 20 The Nature of Reality<br />1:28 57 The Self and Sense of Self<br />1:30 53 Stages of Consciousness<br />1:37 35 Transformations in Consciousness<br />1:46 20 The Role of Psychedelics<br />2:02 01 Exploring 5-MeO-DMT<br />2:21 03 Psychedelics and Buddhist Philosophy<br />2:45 32 Insights on Jhana States<br />2:51 31 Conclusion and Reflections<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Qualia Research Institute [Website]: https://qri.org/<br />- Andres’s Qualia profile: https://qri.org/people/andr%C3%A9s-g%C3%B3mez-emilsson<br />- David Chalmers’s 2024 presentation at Mindfest: https://youtu.be/5r9V1ryksnw<br />- Bernardo Kastrup on TOE: https://youtu.be/lAB21FAXCDE<br />- The Hedonistic Imperative [Book]: https://amzn.to/3Di7Xx5<br />- Why Does Anything Exist? [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/B0DKBHMC3C?tag=toe08-20<br />- Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1911597108?tag=toe08-20<br />- Andres on The DemystifySci Podcast: https://youtu.be/jjWDURKNe2Q<br />- ‘Replications’ group on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/replications/<br />- Stuart Hameroff’s Mindfest presentation: https://youtu.be/0_bQwdJir1o<br />- The Doors of Perception [Book]: https://amzn.to/4ijduTb<br />- From Neural Activity to Field Topology [Article]: https://qualiacomputing.com/2025/02/09/from-neural-activity-to-field-topology-how-coupling-kernels-shape-consciousness/<br />- Seeing That Frees [Book]: https://amzn.to/43fm15m<br />- Practicing the Jhanas (meditation series): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO6hhaAzLmiqUzBYuLLJQ8FexOTRxz8xF<br />- The Dalai Lama, Psychedelics &amp; Cher [Article]: https://tricycle.org/article/dalai-lama-psychedelics-cher/<br />- Advice to Sigālaka [Article]: https://suttacentral.net/dn31/en/sujato<br />- Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States
Pub date: 2025-02-26

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            <title>Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef82fe30b5be4a1da15034706f9532d6/">Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ef82fe30b5be4a1da15034706f9532d6/&notes=Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Economist Robin Hanson explores the provocative idea that an advanced extraterrestrial civilization may be subtly monitoring Earth, either as caretakers or as part of a long‑running experiment. The conversation also examines academic funding, peer review, and the challenges facing modern scholarship.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Introduction<br />- 01:36 - The Great Filter<br />- 05:38 - Where Are The Aliens?<br />- 09:13 - UFOs<br />- 16:50 - Panspermia<br />- 23:05 - Alien Hierarchies<br />- 27:30 - Alien Culture &amp; Motivations<br />- 33:18 - Probability of Aliens<br />- 39:18 - Truth<br />- 49:41 - Fall of Academia<br />- 01:11:27 - Peer Review<br />- 01:20:22 - Ranking Ideas<br />- 01:23:09 - The System is "Broken"<br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Rula: $15 per session with insurance. https://www.rula.com/TOE<br />- Huel: 15% OFF + Free Gift, use code theoriesofeverything. https://huel.com/theoriesofeverything<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Robin’s blog: https://www.overcomingbias.com/<br />- Robin’s profile: https://economics.gmu.edu/people/rhanson<br />- Robin’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Age-Em-Work-Robots-Earth/dp/0198754620<br />- Tyler Cowen on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwieLd7Lyc8&amp;ab_channel=CurtJaimungal<br />- Gregory Chaitin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEuav8G6sY<br />- Matthew Segal on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTm4fSXpbM<br />- Daniel Van Zant’s article on incentive markets: https://www.danielvanzant.com/p/breakthrough-incentive-markets<br />- Michael Levin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s<br />- Lue Elizondo on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmFlLfsZKM<br />- Ross Coulthart on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQnGcX7oxms<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p>

<p>FOLLOW: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">Substack</a> | <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://youtube.com/TheoriesOfEverything">YouTube</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt">Twitter</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef82fe30b5be4a1da15034706f9532d6/">Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ef82fe30b5be4a1da15034706f9532d6/&notes=Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Economist Robin Hanson explores the provocative idea that an advanced extraterrestrial civilization may be subtly monitoring Earth, either as caretakers or as part of a long‑running experiment. The conversation also examines academic funding, peer review, and the challenges facing modern scholarship.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Introduction<br />- 01:36 - The Great Filter<br />- 05:38 - Where Are The Aliens?<br />- 09:13 - UFOs<br />- 16:50 - Panspermia<br />- 23:05 - Alien Hierarchies<br />- 27:30 - Alien Culture &amp; Motivations<br />- 33:18 - Probability of Aliens<br />- 39:18 - Truth<br />- 49:41 - Fall of Academia<br />- 01:11:27 - Peer Review<br />- 01:20:22 - Ranking Ideas<br />- 01:23:09 - The System is "Broken"<br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Rula: $15 per session with insurance. https://www.rula.com/TOE<br />- Huel: 15% OFF + Free Gift, use code theoriesofeverything. https://huel.com/theoriesofeverything<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Robin’s blog: https://www.overcomingbias.com/<br />- Robin’s profile: https://economics.gmu.edu/people/rhanson<br />- Robin’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Age-Em-Work-Robots-Earth/dp/0198754620<br />- Tyler Cowen on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwieLd7Lyc8&amp;ab_channel=CurtJaimungal<br />- Gregory Chaitin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoEuav8G6sY<br />- Matthew Segal on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTm4fSXpbM<br />- Daniel Van Zant’s article on incentive markets: https://www.danielvanzant.com/p/breakthrough-incentive-markets<br />- Michael Levin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s<br />- Lue Elizondo on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmFlLfsZKM<br />- Ross Coulthart on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQnGcX7oxms<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p>

<p>FOLLOW: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">Substack</a> | <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://youtube.com/TheoriesOfEverything">YouTube</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt">Twitter</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
Episode: Robin Hanson: The Economic Case That Aliens Monitor Earth
Pub date: 2025-03-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef82fe30b5be4a1da15034706f9532d6/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:45:40 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c54cb25f9a942adac998fa99bc05196/">Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1c54cb25f9a942adac998fa99bc05196/&notes=Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Curt Jaimungal unpacks Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity in a three-hour mathematical deep dive. The episode serves as an extensive “iceberg” guide, moving from foundational concepts to advanced theory.  <br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- YouTube Membership (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs<br />
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<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c54cb25f9a942adac998fa99bc05196/">Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1c54cb25f9a942adac998fa99bc05196/&notes=Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Curt Jaimungal unpacks Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity in a three-hour mathematical deep dive. The episode serves as an extensive “iceberg” guide, moving from foundational concepts to advanced theory.  <br /><br />SPONSORS:<br /><br />- Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- YouTube Membership (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs<br />
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<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
Episode: Curt Jaimungal: The Geometric Unity Iceberg
Pub date: 2025-04-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c54cb25f9a942adac998fa99bc05196/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:45:12 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/piers-morgan-uncensored-piers-morgan-KiAZH02_9U3/">Piers Morgan Uncensored</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b639fee9673f4ff28886605afddad160/">Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b639fee9673f4ff28886605afddad160/&notes=Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/piers-morgan-uncensored-piers-morgan-1a_8DkQ3L6r-KiAZH02_9U3.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Now that President Donald Trump is back in America’s driving seat, his plan to slash spending, particularly to foreign countries, is moving ahead practically unencumbered. The United States Agency for International Development aka USAID now sits squarely in the crosshairs of MAGA, with questions like; “Where is our money going?”, “How does this help America?” and “Why weren’t we told about this?” being shouted rather than whispered. Conversely, there are those who wholly support USAID and say the influence it affords the US is invaluable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Piers Morgan dives deeply into this issue, joined by Harvard mathematician and physicist Dr Eric Weinstein. former USAID head and national security adviser to Donald Trump, Ambassador John Bolton, commentator and Babylon Bee contributor Ashley St Clair and Sunday Times columnist Matthew Syed.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Piers Morgan Uncensored, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/piers-morgan-uncensored-piers-morgan-KiAZH02_9U3/">Piers Morgan Uncensored</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b639fee9673f4ff28886605afddad160/">Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b639fee9673f4ff28886605afddad160/&notes=Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/piers-morgan-uncensored-piers-morgan-1a_8DkQ3L6r-KiAZH02_9U3.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Now that President Donald Trump is back in America’s driving seat, his plan to slash spending, particularly to foreign countries, is moving ahead practically unencumbered. The United States Agency for International Development aka USAID now sits squarely in the crosshairs of MAGA, with questions like; “Where is our money going?”, “How does this help America?” and “Why weren’t we told about this?” being shouted rather than whispered. Conversely, there are those who wholly support USAID and say the influence it affords the US is invaluable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Piers Morgan dives deeply into this issue, joined by Harvard mathematician and physicist Dr Eric Weinstein. former USAID head and national security adviser to Donald Trump, Ambassador John Bolton, commentator and Babylon Bee contributor Ashley St Clair and Sunday Times columnist Matthew Syed.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Piers Morgan Uncensored, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Piers Morgan Uncensored
Episode: Can America Handle The Truth? Trump USAID Cuts With Eric Weinstein
Pub date: 2025-02-11

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b639fee9673f4ff28886605afddad160/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:44:40 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Piers Morgan Uncensored</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:52:54</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Piers Morgan Uncensored</itunes:author>
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            <title>Analyzing Trump&#x27;s Tactics | Eric Weinstein</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-rubin-report-dave-rubin-1xvkyonIZS0/">The Rubin Report</a> (LS 74 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c332f3e8ba8f474197421cc4ca22c175/">Analyzing Trump's Tactics | Eric Weinstein</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c332f3e8ba8f474197421cc4ca22c175/&notes=Analyzing Trump's Tactics | Eric Weinstein">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-rubin-report-dave-rubin-kbE0eCyqKj2-1xvkyonIZS0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Eric Weinstein about the potential rise of Generation X in leadership roles; how influential figures like Elon Musk could signal Gen X's long-awaited moment; why he remains skeptical about his generation's ability to seize this opportunity; the dangers of aligning with political cults of personality around Donald Trump and Elon Musk; his critique of both the left and right for tolerating extremism; his cautious optimism about the high risks and rewards of today's political and technological landscape; and much more.</p> <p></p> <p>#RubinReport #EricWeinstein #MAGA #Trump #ElonMusk #extremism #GenX #ARC #daverubin</p> <p></p> <p>-----------------------------------------------</p> <p></p> <p>Reserve your 1st edition copy of our new book, The Best of Our Inheritance.</p> <p>Pre-Order open until March 14, 2025:</p> <p>Link to book: https://www.arcforum.com/store/p/the-best-of-our-inheritance-arc-research</p> <p></p> <p>YouTube - @arc_conference</p> <p>Twitter - @arc_forum</p> <p>IG - @arc_forum</p> <p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dave Rubin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-rubin-report-dave-rubin-1xvkyonIZS0/">The Rubin Report</a> (LS 74 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c332f3e8ba8f474197421cc4ca22c175/">Analyzing Trump's Tactics | Eric Weinstein</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-03-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c332f3e8ba8f474197421cc4ca22c175/&notes=Analyzing Trump's Tactics | Eric Weinstein">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-rubin-report-dave-rubin-kbE0eCyqKj2-1xvkyonIZS0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Eric Weinstein about the potential rise of Generation X in leadership roles; how influential figures like Elon Musk could signal Gen X's long-awaited moment; why he remains skeptical about his generation's ability to seize this opportunity; the dangers of aligning with political cults of personality around Donald Trump and Elon Musk; his critique of both the left and right for tolerating extremism; his cautious optimism about the high risks and rewards of today's political and technological landscape; and much more.</p> <p></p> <p>#RubinReport #EricWeinstein #MAGA #Trump #ElonMusk #extremism #GenX #ARC #daverubin</p> <p></p> <p>-----------------------------------------------</p> <p></p> <p>Reserve your 1st edition copy of our new book, The Best of Our Inheritance.</p> <p>Pre-Order open until March 14, 2025:</p> <p>Link to book: https://www.arcforum.com/store/p/the-best-of-our-inheritance-arc-research</p> <p></p> <p>YouTube - @arc_conference</p> <p>Twitter - @arc_forum</p> <p>IG - @arc_forum</p> <p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dave Rubin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Rubin Report
Episode: Analyzing Trump's Tactics | Eric Weinstein
Pub date: 2025-03-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c332f3e8ba8f474197421cc4ca22c175/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:44:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dave Rubin</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:17:38</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Dave Rubin</itunes:author>
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            <title>541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79/">541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79/&notes=541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Billionaire investor and PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel sits down with Jordan Peterson for a powerful conversation about why real progress has stalled. Thiel argues that the last truly groundbreaking achievement may have been landing on the moon—and since then, we've slowed down. He explains how fear, red tape, and over-specialization have made us more cautious and less ambitious.</p><p> </p><p>They dig into how society has shifted away from building and inventing, toward digital distractions and endless talk. They also explore what’s been lost as faith and meaning have disappeared from public life. From broken universities to status-driven culture wars, this is a deep and thought-provoking look at the challenges facing the West—and what we might do to turn things around.</p><p> </p><p>Peter Thiel is a German-born entrepreneur, venture capitalist, activist, and billionaire who emigrated to the U.S. as a child, eventually settling in California after years of moving between countries. A Stanford Law graduate, he began his career as a clerk and derivatives trader before founding Thiel Capital with $1 million from friends and family. Despite early setbacks, he co-founded Confinity, which became PayPal, launching a streak of ventures including Palantir, Clarium Capital, and early investment in Facebook. Thiel is an openly gay supporter of the Republican party, advocating for both equal rights and certain conservative policies, making his political stance admirably nuanced.</p><p> </p><p>This episode was filmed on March 31st, 2025.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>| Links |</p><p> </p><p>For Peter Thiel:</p><p> </p><p>X https://x.com/peterthiel?lang=en</p><p> </p><p>Read “Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future” https://a.co/d/fAfeXm8 </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79/">541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79/&notes=541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Billionaire investor and PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel sits down with Jordan Peterson for a powerful conversation about why real progress has stalled. Thiel argues that the last truly groundbreaking achievement may have been landing on the moon—and since then, we've slowed down. He explains how fear, red tape, and over-specialization have made us more cautious and less ambitious.</p><p> </p><p>They dig into how society has shifted away from building and inventing, toward digital distractions and endless talk. They also explore what’s been lost as faith and meaning have disappeared from public life. From broken universities to status-driven culture wars, this is a deep and thought-provoking look at the challenges facing the West—and what we might do to turn things around.</p><p> </p><p>Peter Thiel is a German-born entrepreneur, venture capitalist, activist, and billionaire who emigrated to the U.S. as a child, eventually settling in California after years of moving between countries. A Stanford Law graduate, he began his career as a clerk and derivatives trader before founding Thiel Capital with $1 million from friends and family. Despite early setbacks, he co-founded Confinity, which became PayPal, launching a streak of ventures including Palantir, Clarium Capital, and early investment in Facebook. Thiel is an openly gay supporter of the Republican party, advocating for both equal rights and certain conservative policies, making his political stance admirably nuanced.</p><p> </p><p>This episode was filmed on March 31st, 2025.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>| Links |</p><p> </p><p>For Peter Thiel:</p><p> </p><p>X https://x.com/peterthiel?lang=en</p><p> </p><p>Read “Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future” https://a.co/d/fAfeXm8 </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Episode: 541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel
Pub date: 2025-04-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a6bfff62c9074217ac9c34c59630bd79/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:21:31 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:21:05</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</itunes:author>
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            <title>Peter Thiel</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/42080c1616904c8098ca2ca5728a0e21</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tetragrammaton-with-rick-rubin-rick-rubin-I6G2vZoNzKx/">Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/42080c1616904c8098ca2ca5728a0e21/">Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/42080c1616904c8098ca2ca5728a0e21/&notes=Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tetragrammaton-with-rick-rubin-rick-rubin-MUiSn_HYJ3u-I6G2vZoNzKx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel is an entrepreneur and investor. He is the co-founder and former CEO of PayPal, started in 1998, redefining the world of secure and fast e-commerce. Shortly thereafter, Thiel was the first outside investor in Facebook in 2004. Additionally, he co-founded <a href="https://foundersfund.com/">Founders Fund</a>, which has backed transformative companies like SpaceX and Airbnb, With a background in law and finance, Thiel has consistently championed innovation, whether through his venture capital firm, Thiel Capital, or the <a href="https://thielfellowship.org/">Thiel Fellowship</a>, which provides $100,000 grants to young entrepreneurs who have a vision for a new product. Known for his contrarian thinking, Thiel is also the author of <em>#</em>1<em> New York Times </em>bestselling book, <a href="https://a.co/d/1XEs9w4"><em>Zero to One</em></a>, which challenges conventional ideas about innovation and offers optimistic insight into future progress. </p><p><br /></p><p>------</p><p>Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team:</p><p><br /></p><p>Vivo Barefoot</p><p><a href="http://vivobarefoot.com/tetra">http://vivobarefoot.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA25'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>LMNT Electrolytes</p><p><a href="https://drinklmnt.com/tetra">https://drinklmnt.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Athletic Nicotine</p><p><a href="https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra">https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Squarespace</p><p><a href="https://squarespace.com/tetra">https://squarespace.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions</p><p><a href="https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter">https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rick Rubin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tetragrammaton-with-rick-rubin-rick-rubin-I6G2vZoNzKx/">Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/42080c1616904c8098ca2ca5728a0e21/">Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-12-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/42080c1616904c8098ca2ca5728a0e21/&notes=Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tetragrammaton-with-rick-rubin-rick-rubin-MUiSn_HYJ3u-I6G2vZoNzKx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel is an entrepreneur and investor. He is the co-founder and former CEO of PayPal, started in 1998, redefining the world of secure and fast e-commerce. Shortly thereafter, Thiel was the first outside investor in Facebook in 2004. Additionally, he co-founded <a href="https://foundersfund.com/">Founders Fund</a>, which has backed transformative companies like SpaceX and Airbnb, With a background in law and finance, Thiel has consistently championed innovation, whether through his venture capital firm, Thiel Capital, or the <a href="https://thielfellowship.org/">Thiel Fellowship</a>, which provides $100,000 grants to young entrepreneurs who have a vision for a new product. Known for his contrarian thinking, Thiel is also the author of <em>#</em>1<em> New York Times </em>bestselling book, <a href="https://a.co/d/1XEs9w4"><em>Zero to One</em></a>, which challenges conventional ideas about innovation and offers optimistic insight into future progress. </p><p><br /></p><p>------</p><p>Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team:</p><p><br /></p><p>Vivo Barefoot</p><p><a href="http://vivobarefoot.com/tetra">http://vivobarefoot.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA25'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>LMNT Electrolytes</p><p><a href="https://drinklmnt.com/tetra">https://drinklmnt.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Athletic Nicotine</p><p><a href="https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra">https://www.athleticnicotine.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Squarespace</p><p><a href="https://squarespace.com/tetra">https://squarespace.com/tetra</a></p><p>Use code 'TETRA'</p><p><em>------</em></p><p>Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions</p><p><a href="https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter">https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rick Rubin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Peter Thiel
Pub date: 2024-12-18

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            <author>Rick Rubin</author>



            
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            <title>Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-james-altucher-show-james-altucher-sSHocv8YjIe/">The James Altucher Show</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b5b665a8ee754692b5cebae16a8d2727/">Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b5b665a8ee754692b5cebae16a8d2727/&notes=Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-james-altucher-show-podcastone-1qjLwMtdYxH-sSHocv8YjIe.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>A Note from James:I am thrilled to celebrate the 10th anniversary of my podcast. Occasionally, I'll feature some timeless episodes as if they're brand new, sharing those that have greatly impacted me. One such figure is Nassim Taleb, whom I consider one of the smartest people on the planet.I've learned so much from Nassim, and I'm not sure he realizes or cares just how influential he's been on me. I was extremely grateful when he agreed to appear on my podcast. There's an interesting backstory to his appearance: he joined my show a few years ago, and we are airing that episode now, though he might not be aware of the whole story.Back in 2002, I was desperate-I was broke, struggling, losing my house, and my family was falling apart. I wrote to 20 influential individuals, including well-known investors and writers like Warren Buffett and Carl Icahn, expressing my desire to meet them. Only three responded.Jim Cramer was one of them. I had sent him ten ideas for articles he could write for TheStreet.com. To my surprise, he responded positively and encouraged me to write the articles myself, which kickstarted my career as a writer. From financial columns, I expanded into other topics.Victor Niederhoffer also replied because I sent him software programs tailored to his trading style, offering them for his and his traders' use and my assistance if needed, with no pressure to respond.Nassim Taleb was another who responded. I had reached out to him because I admired his book "Fooled by Randomness" and wished to meet him. Although he was willing to meet, I never followed up. However, many years later, he came on my podcast, bringing everything full circle, for which I am immensely grateful.Now, I am honored to reintroduce one of the smartest men in the universe, Nassim Taleb. Episode Description:In this episode, we explore Nassim Taleb's influential ideas, specifically his thoughts on antifragility, the unpredictability of life, and the beneficial role of trial and error in diverse areas such as technology, health, and business. As we mark ten years of learning, the host shares transformative conversations with Taleb, revealing how chaos and uncertainty can fortify systems, people, and industries. We examine Taleb's key principles: reducing interference, valuing variability, and the necessity of personal investment in outcomes. We also look at concrete examples. Further, we discuss how embracing errors and innovation can lead to breakthroughs in sectors like drug development and business ventures, and address the negative impacts of excessive rescue measures and regulatory constraints. Through a blend of personal anecdotes and theoretical exploration, this episode encapsulates the essence of antifragility as a pathway to resilience and fulfillment. Episode Summary:00:00 Celebrating a Decade of Podcasting: A Special Revisit00:35 The Power of Cold Emails: Life-Changing Connections02:04 Nassim Taleb: A Mind That Shaped My Worldview02:51 Exploring the Impact of Technology Through the Lens of Anti-Fragility04:18 The Evolution of Communication: From TV to Social Media04:47 The Paradox of Technological Progress: A Historical Perspective05:43 Disruptive Innovations and the Cycle of Technology08:41 Personal Anecdotes and the Philosophy of Email Communication09:24 The Intricacies of Responding to Emails and Setting Boundaries10:56 Journalism, Social Media, and the Quest for Authenticity15:27 Understanding Fragility vs. Anti-Fragility: A Deep Dive26:07 The Role of Variability and Stressors in Evolution and Health31:49 Applying Anti-Fragility to Diet, Exercise, and Lifestyle49:43 The Importance of Political Variability and the Unpredictability of Life51:40 Exploring the Anti-Fragile Lifestyle52:00 The Power of Walking and Creative Thinking54:22 Embracing Natural Elements for Health55:06 Rethinking Medicine and Personal Health Strategies57:30 Navigating...

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-james-altucher-show-james-altucher-sSHocv8YjIe/">The James Altucher Show</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b5b665a8ee754692b5cebae16a8d2727/">Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b5b665a8ee754692b5cebae16a8d2727/&notes=Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-james-altucher-show-podcastone-1qjLwMtdYxH-sSHocv8YjIe.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>A Note from James:I am thrilled to celebrate the 10th anniversary of my podcast. Occasionally, I'll feature some timeless episodes as if they're brand new, sharing those that have greatly impacted me. One such figure is Nassim Taleb, whom I consider one of the smartest people on the planet.I've learned so much from Nassim, and I'm not sure he realizes or cares just how influential he's been on me. I was extremely grateful when he agreed to appear on my podcast. There's an interesting backstory to his appearance: he joined my show a few years ago, and we are airing that episode now, though he might not be aware of the whole story.Back in 2002, I was desperate-I was broke, struggling, losing my house, and my family was falling apart. I wrote to 20 influential individuals, including well-known investors and writers like Warren Buffett and Carl Icahn, expressing my desire to meet them. Only three responded.Jim Cramer was one of them. I had sent him ten ideas for articles he could write for TheStreet.com. To my surprise, he responded positively and encouraged me to write the articles myself, which kickstarted my career as a writer. From financial columns, I expanded into other topics.Victor Niederhoffer also replied because I sent him software programs tailored to his trading style, offering them for his and his traders' use and my assistance if needed, with no pressure to respond.Nassim Taleb was another who responded. I had reached out to him because I admired his book "Fooled by Randomness" and wished to meet him. Although he was willing to meet, I never followed up. However, many years later, he came on my podcast, bringing everything full circle, for which I am immensely grateful.Now, I am honored to reintroduce one of the smartest men in the universe, Nassim Taleb. Episode Description:In this episode, we explore Nassim Taleb's influential ideas, specifically his thoughts on antifragility, the unpredictability of life, and the beneficial role of trial and error in diverse areas such as technology, health, and business. As we mark ten years of learning, the host shares transformative conversations with Taleb, revealing how chaos and uncertainty can fortify systems, people, and industries. We examine Taleb's key principles: reducing interference, valuing variability, and the necessity of personal investment in outcomes. We also look at concrete examples. Further, we discuss how embracing errors and innovation can lead to breakthroughs in sectors like drug development and business ventures, and address the negative impacts of excessive rescue measures and regulatory constraints. Through a blend of personal anecdotes and theoretical exploration, this episode encapsulates the essence of antifragility as a pathway to resilience and fulfillment. Episode Summary:00:00 Celebrating a Decade of Podcasting: A Special Revisit00:35 The Power of Cold Emails: Life-Changing Connections02:04 Nassim Taleb: A Mind That Shaped My Worldview02:51 Exploring the Impact of Technology Through the Lens of Anti-Fragility04:18 The Evolution of Communication: From TV to Social Media04:47 The Paradox of Technological Progress: A Historical Perspective05:43 Disruptive Innovations and the Cycle of Technology08:41 Personal Anecdotes and the Philosophy of Email Communication09:24 The Intricacies of Responding to Emails and Setting Boundaries10:56 Journalism, Social Media, and the Quest for Authenticity15:27 Understanding Fragility vs. Anti-Fragility: A Deep Dive26:07 The Role of Variability and Stressors in Evolution and Health31:49 Applying Anti-Fragility to Diet, Exercise, and Lifestyle49:43 The Importance of Political Variability and the Unpredictability of Life51:40 Exploring the Anti-Fragile Lifestyle52:00 The Power of Walking and Creative Thinking54:22 Embracing Natural Elements for Health55:06 Rethinking Medicine and Personal Health Strategies57:30 Navigating...

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Podcast: The James Altucher Show
Episode: Nassim Taleb | Why You Should Embrace Uncertainty
Pub date: 2024-04-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b5b665a8ee754692b5cebae16a8d2727/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>James Altucher</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>James Altucher</itunes:author>
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            <title>#759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/721ec6d121754a89b277945a9f7b4eab/">#759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-07-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/721ec6d121754a89b277945a9f7b4eab/&notes=#759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.</p><p>The episode features segments from episode #691 "<a href="https://tim.blog/2023/09/07/nassim-nicholas-taleb-scott-patterson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Nassim Nicholas Taleb &amp; Scott Patterson — How Traders Make Billions in The New Age of Crisis, Defending Against Silent Risks, Personal Independence, Skepticism Where It (Really) Counts, The Bishop and The Economist, and Much More</strong></a>" and&nbsp;#639 "<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/11/30/todd-mcfarlane/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Todd McFarlane, Legendary Comic Book Artist — How to Make Iconic Art, Reinvent Spider-Man, Live Life on Your Own Terms, and Meet Every Deadline</strong></a>."</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Momentous</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-quality supplements:&nbsp;</strong><a 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about this supercombo format.</p><p><strong>[05:54] Enter Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Scott Patterson.</strong></p><p>[06:32] The joy of writing a preemptive resignation letter.</p><p>[07:13] Developing resilience against criticism.</p><p>[10:04] Nassim: contrarian, or simply independent?</p><p>[12:27] Jiving with skeptical turkeys.</p><p>[17:21] Persisting through the polycrisis.</p><p>[19:18] Introducing the precautionary principle.</p><p>[21:37] Nassim's preferred legacy.</p><p>[23:50] Precautionary principle 101.</p><p>[25:14] Fat tails, thin tails, the COVID vaccine, and GMOs.</p><p><strong>[32:51] Enter Todd McFarlane.</strong></p><p>[33:21] Baseball.</p><p>[38:46] Rejection letters.</p><p>[42:38] Compelling storytelling and meeting deadlines.</p><p>[45:46] Deadlines pre-Internet vs. deadlines today.</p><p>[48:36] How industry status quo led to the founding of Image Comic Books.</p><p>[1:00:30] The Comics Code and the last straw.</p><p>[1:06:52] The Marvel Dream Team exodus.</p><p>[1:25:13] How is Todd's camel bladder a competitive advantage?</p><p>[1:31:02] Career bouncing and double-shifting as a penciler and inker.</p><p>[1:49:08] The happy accident of Venom.</p><p>[1:55:46] De-Rockwelling the company icon and inventing "spaghetti webbing."</p><p>[2:03:31] Bucking the status quo to become the status quo.</p><p>[2:07:13] Parting thoughts and a promise for round two.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/721ec6d121754a89b277945a9f7b4eab/">#759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-07-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/721ec6d121754a89b277945a9f7b4eab/&notes=#759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.</p><p>The episode features segments from episode #691 "<a href="https://tim.blog/2023/09/07/nassim-nicholas-taleb-scott-patterson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Nassim Nicholas Taleb &amp; Scott Patterson — How Traders Make Billions in The New Age of Crisis, Defending Against Silent Risks, Personal Independence, Skepticism Where It (Really) Counts, The Bishop and The Economist, and Much More</strong></a>" and&nbsp;#639 "<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/11/30/todd-mcfarlane/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Todd McFarlane, Legendary Comic Book Artist — How to Make Iconic Art, Reinvent Spider-Man, Live Life on Your Own Terms, and Meet Every Deadline</strong></a>."</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Momentous</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-quality supplements:&nbsp;</strong><a 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about this supercombo format.</p><p><strong>[05:54] Enter Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Scott Patterson.</strong></p><p>[06:32] The joy of writing a preemptive resignation letter.</p><p>[07:13] Developing resilience against criticism.</p><p>[10:04] Nassim: contrarian, or simply independent?</p><p>[12:27] Jiving with skeptical turkeys.</p><p>[17:21] Persisting through the polycrisis.</p><p>[19:18] Introducing the precautionary principle.</p><p>[21:37] Nassim's preferred legacy.</p><p>[23:50] Precautionary principle 101.</p><p>[25:14] Fat tails, thin tails, the COVID vaccine, and GMOs.</p><p><strong>[32:51] Enter Todd McFarlane.</strong></p><p>[33:21] Baseball.</p><p>[38:46] Rejection letters.</p><p>[42:38] Compelling storytelling and meeting deadlines.</p><p>[45:46] Deadlines pre-Internet vs. deadlines today.</p><p>[48:36] How industry status quo led to the founding of Image Comic Books.</p><p>[1:00:30] The Comics Code and the last straw.</p><p>[1:06:52] The Marvel Dream Team exodus.</p><p>[1:25:13] How is Todd's camel bladder a competitive advantage?</p><p>[1:31:02] Career bouncing and double-shifting as a penciler and inker.</p><p>[1:49:08] The happy accident of Venom.</p><p>[1:55:46] De-Rockwelling the company icon and inventing "spaghetti webbing."</p><p>[2:03:31] Bucking the status quo to become the status quo.</p><p>[2:07:13] Parting thoughts and a promise for round two.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Crews</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yuval Noah Harari</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm Gladwell</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeleine Albright</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cheryl Strayed</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Collins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Karr,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Popova</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phelps</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Iger</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edward Norton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil Strauss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ken Burns</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Sharapova</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marc Andreessen</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil Gaiman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil de Grasse Tyson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jocko Willink</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Ek</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Slater</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Peter Attia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seth Godin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Howard Marks</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Brené Brown</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Schmidt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Lewis</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe Gebbia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/" rel="noopener 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Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ray Dalio</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naval Ravikant</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vitalik Buterin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Lesser</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Palmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katie Haun</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Richard Branson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chuck Palahniuk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arianna Huffington</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reid Hoffman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Burr</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whitney Cummings</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darren Aronofsky</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Margaret Atwood</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Zuckerberg</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter Thiel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Gabor Maté</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Lamott</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Silverman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Andrew Huberman</a>, and many more.</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" 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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane
Pub date: 2024-07-31

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            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:16 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins &amp; Alex O’Connor</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6dff6249a0284318a68914e382bf9944/">491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6dff6249a0284318a68914e382bf9944/&notes=491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Alex O’Connor and Richard Dawkins to discuss their differences of view on the Abrahamic biblical texts, truth claims in science and fiction, the extension of memes through Jungian archetypes, and the memetical reality of dragons.</p><p> </p><p>This episode was filmed on September 30th, 2024</p><p> </p><p>Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, zoologist, science communicator, and bestselling author of books such as “The Selfish Gene,” and “The Genetic Book of the Dead.”</p><p> </p><p>Alex O'Connor is a philosophy-oriented YouTuber, podcaster, and public speaker. He graduated in 2021 from St. John's College, Oxford University, with a BA in philosophy and theology. In 2023, he launched the “Within Reason” podcast, which has featured guests including Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Slavoj Žižek, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Rory Stewart, amongst others.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>| Links |</p><p> </p><p>For Richard Dawkins:</p><p> </p><p>On X https://x.com/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor</p><p> </p><p>On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@poetryofreality</p><p> </p><p>The Genetic Book of the Dead (New book) https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Book-Dead-Darwinian-Reverie/dp/0300278098</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>For Alex O’Connor:</p><p> </p><p>On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicSkeptic</p><p> </p><p>On X https://x.com/CosmicSkeptic?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6dff6249a0284318a68914e382bf9944/">491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6dff6249a0284318a68914e382bf9944/&notes=491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Alex O’Connor and Richard Dawkins to discuss their differences of view on the Abrahamic biblical texts, truth claims in science and fiction, the extension of memes through Jungian archetypes, and the memetical reality of dragons.</p><p> </p><p>This episode was filmed on September 30th, 2024</p><p> </p><p>Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, zoologist, science communicator, and bestselling author of books such as “The Selfish Gene,” and “The Genetic Book of the Dead.”</p><p> </p><p>Alex O'Connor is a philosophy-oriented YouTuber, podcaster, and public speaker. He graduated in 2021 from St. John's College, Oxford University, with a BA in philosophy and theology. In 2023, he launched the “Within Reason” podcast, which has featured guests including Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Slavoj Žižek, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Rory Stewart, amongst others.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>| Links |</p><p> </p><p>For Richard Dawkins:</p><p> </p><p>On X https://x.com/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor</p><p> </p><p>On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@poetryofreality</p><p> </p><p>The Genetic Book of the Dead (New book) https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Book-Dead-Darwinian-Reverie/dp/0300278098</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>For Alex O’Connor:</p><p> </p><p>On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicSkeptic</p><p> </p><p>On X https://x.com/CosmicSkeptic?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor </p>
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Podcast: The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Episode: 491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor
Pub date: 2024-10-21

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            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:51:22 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</itunes:author>
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            <title>Parenting in the Age of Social Media and — Help! — A.I.</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ezra-klein-show-new-york-times-opinion-uirbhjX_SZ9/">The Ezra Klein Show</a> (LS 76 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/577c23c4fbf44125860038e18e5f90e0/">Parenting in the Age of Social Media and — Help! — A.I.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/577c23c4fbf44125860038e18e5f90e0/&notes=Parenting in the Age of Social Media and — Help! — A.I.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ezra-klein-show-new-york-times-opinion--ltvCAjKUX3-uirbhjX_SZ9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>There’s something of a policy revolution afoot: As of March, more than a dozen states — including California, Florida and Ohio — have <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/State_policies_on_cellphone_use_in_K-12_public_schools" target="_blank">passed bills or adopted policies</a> that aim to limit cellphone usage at school. More are expected to follow.</p><p>Jonathan Haidt is the leader of this particular insurgency. “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729231/the-anxious-generation-by-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness</a>,” his book exploring the decline of the “play-based childhood” and the rise of the “phone-based childhood,” has been on the New York Times best-seller list for a year. It feels, to me, like we’re finally figuring out a reasonable approach to smartphones and social media and kids … just in time for that approach to be deranged by the question of A.I. and kids, which no one is really prepared for.</p><p>So I wanted to have Haidt on the show to talk through both of those topics, and the questions we often ignore beneath them: What is childhood for? What are parents for? What do human beings need in order to flourish? You know, the small stuff.</p><p>Haidt is a professor at New York University Stern School of Business and the author of “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/73535/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Righteous Mind</a>” and “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/557315/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind-by-greg-lukianoff-and-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Coddling of the American Mind</a>” (with Greg Lukianoff). His newsletter is called <a href="https://www.afterbabel.com/" target="_blank">After Babel</a>.</p><p><i><strong>This episode contains strong language.</strong></i></p><p>Mentioned:</p><p>“<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/podcasts/the-daily/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-relationship.html" target="_blank">She Fell in Love With ChatGPT. Like, Actual Love. With Sex.</a>” by The Daily</p><p>Book Recommendations:</p><p><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/the-stoic-challenge" target="_blank">The Stoic Challenge</a> by William B. Irvine</p><p><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/cal-newport/deep-work/9781455586691/?lens=grand-central-publishing" target="_blank">Deep Work</a> by Cal Newport</p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Win-Friends-and-Influence-People/Dale-Carnegie/9781982171452" target="_blank">How to Win Friends and Influence People</a> by Dale Carnegie</p><p>Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.</p><p>You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank"><strong>nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast</strong></a>. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html" target="_blank"><strong>https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs</strong></a>.</p><p>This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Jack McCordick. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Isaac Jones, with Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our executive editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.</p>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ezra-klein-show-new-york-times-opinion-uirbhjX_SZ9/">The Ezra Klein Show</a> (LS 76 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/577c23c4fbf44125860038e18e5f90e0/">Parenting in the Age of Social Media and — Help! — A.I.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-04-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/577c23c4fbf44125860038e18e5f90e0/&notes=Parenting in the Age of Social Media and — Help! — A.I.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ezra-klein-show-new-york-times-opinion--ltvCAjKUX3-uirbhjX_SZ9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>There’s something of a policy revolution afoot: As of March, more than a dozen states — including California, Florida and Ohio — have <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/State_policies_on_cellphone_use_in_K-12_public_schools" target="_blank">passed bills or adopted policies</a> that aim to limit cellphone usage at school. More are expected to follow.</p><p>Jonathan Haidt is the leader of this particular insurgency. “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729231/the-anxious-generation-by-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness</a>,” his book exploring the decline of the “play-based childhood” and the rise of the “phone-based childhood,” has been on the New York Times best-seller list for a year. It feels, to me, like we’re finally figuring out a reasonable approach to smartphones and social media and kids … just in time for that approach to be deranged by the question of A.I. and kids, which no one is really prepared for.</p><p>So I wanted to have Haidt on the show to talk through both of those topics, and the questions we often ignore beneath them: What is childhood for? What are parents for? What do human beings need in order to flourish? You know, the small stuff.</p><p>Haidt is a professor at New York University Stern School of Business and the author of “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/73535/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Righteous Mind</a>” and “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/557315/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind-by-greg-lukianoff-and-jonathan-haidt/" target="_blank">The Coddling of the American Mind</a>” (with Greg Lukianoff). His newsletter is called <a href="https://www.afterbabel.com/" target="_blank">After Babel</a>.</p><p><i><strong>This episode contains strong language.</strong></i></p><p>Mentioned:</p><p>“<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/podcasts/the-daily/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-relationship.html" target="_blank">She Fell in Love With ChatGPT. Like, Actual Love. With Sex.</a>” by The Daily</p><p>Book Recommendations:</p><p><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/the-stoic-challenge" target="_blank">The Stoic Challenge</a> by William B. Irvine</p><p><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/cal-newport/deep-work/9781455586691/?lens=grand-central-publishing" target="_blank">Deep Work</a> by Cal Newport</p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Win-Friends-and-Influence-People/Dale-Carnegie/9781982171452" target="_blank">How to Win Friends and Influence People</a> by Dale Carnegie</p><p>Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.</p><p>You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank"><strong>nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast</strong></a>. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html" target="_blank"><strong>https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs</strong></a>.</p><p>This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Jack McCordick. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Isaac Jones, with Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our executive editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.</p>
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            <title>E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c3f071c1cd9493e909cf2ac8a2addc3/">E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1c3f071c1cd9493e909cf2ac8a2addc3/&notes=E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode was initially recorded before a live audience in 2018. Erik Torenberg talks with Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan about the history of money and centralization and why crypto has the potential to fulfill the promise of the internet. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com">https://choosesquad.com</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>Balaji Srinivasan is a founder, investor, and author of The Network State.</p><p>Naval Ravikant is an entrepreneur, investor, and former CEO of Angellist.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: </strong><a href="https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj"><strong>https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj</strong></a></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>RECOMMENDED PODCAST:</strong></p><p>Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH">Spotify</a>: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH">https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812">Apple</a>: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812">https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812</a></p><p>-</p><p>ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH</p><p>Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.</p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056">https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056</a></p><p>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs">https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs</a></p><p>--</p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at <a href="mailto:erik@turpentine.co">erik@turpentine.co</a>.</p><p>--</p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p><br /></p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to <a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine">https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> (and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.)</p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com">https://choosesquad.com</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p>--</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c3f071c1cd9493e909cf2ac8a2addc3/">E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1c3f071c1cd9493e909cf2ac8a2addc3/&notes=E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode was initially recorded before a live audience in 2018. Erik Torenberg talks with Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan about the history of money and centralization and why crypto has the potential to fulfill the promise of the internet. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com">https://choosesquad.com</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>Balaji Srinivasan is a founder, investor, and author of The Network State.</p><p>Naval Ravikant is an entrepreneur, investor, and former CEO of Angellist.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: </strong><a href="https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj"><strong>https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj</strong></a></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>RECOMMENDED PODCAST:</strong></p><p>Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH">Spotify</a>: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH">https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812">Apple</a>: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812">https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812</a></p><p>-</p><p>ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH</p><p>Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week.</p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056">https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056</a></p><p>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs">https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs</a></p><p>--</p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at <a href="mailto:erik@turpentine.co">erik@turpentine.co</a>.</p><p>--</p><p>SPONSORS:</p><p><br /></p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to <a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine">https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> (and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.)</p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to <a href="https://choosesquad.com">https://choosesquad.com</a> and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p>--</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: "Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing
Episode: E42: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto
Pub date: 2024-06-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/1c3f071c1cd9493e909cf2ac8a2addc3/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>#737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4de1fd4072494fe3a40c498d38eeec24/">#737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4de1fd4072494fe3a40c498d38eeec24/&notes=#737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #97 "Naval Ravikant — The Person I Call Most for Startup Advice" and episode #341 "Nick Kokonas — How to Apply World-Class Creativity to Business, Art, and Life."</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra</strong></a> <strong>sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://eightsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://eightsleep.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra)</strong></p><p><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Momentous</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-quality supplements:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://livemomentous.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(code TIM for 20% off)</strong></p><p><a href="https://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>LinkedIn Jobs</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;recruitment platform with 1B+ users:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://linkedin.com/tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;(post your job for free)</strong></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>[00:00] Start</p><p>[04:34] Notes about this supercombo format.</p><p>[05:53] Enter Naval Ravikant.</p><p>[06:05] On uncompromising honesty.</p><p>[08:05] What Naval looks for when deciding to invest in a founder.</p><p>[11:03] Recommended reading from outside the startup world.</p><p>[18:38] Who Naval considers successful.</p><p>[21:02] Cultivating non-judgmental awareness.</p><p>[26:08] How to replace bad habits with good habits.</p><p>[29:31] Naval's advice for his younger self.</p><p>[32:01] Naval's billboard.</p><p>[35:46] Enter Nick Kokonas.</p><p>[36:05] Is pressure Nick's default setting, or are perceived risks an illusion?</p><p>[36:55] How do behavioral economics and Richard Thaler influence Nick's approach?</p><p>[41:38] Nick's transition from philosophy to finance; was philosophy an asset?</p><p>[42:43] Why Nick's professor gave him shorter assignments than classmates.</p><p>[44:57] Nick's introduction to trading; dumbing down academics for clerk job.</p><p>[46:42] Why philosophy majors often become traders.</p><p>[47:19] Why Nick is glad he didn't pursue an MBA in 1992.</p><p>[48:41] Why Nick thinks his professor singled him out from his peers.</p><p>[52:52] Recommended books for aspiring entrepreneurs without philosophy background.</p><p>[57:31] Did being a Merc clerk meet Nick's expectations?</p><p>[1:00:02] How Nick followed his father's entrepreneurial model in trading.</p><p>[1:04:38] Why Nick left his mentor after a year to start his own company.</p><p>[1:05:41] How Nick and employees trained to quicken mental agility for trading.</p><p>[1:08:17] The moment Nick realized he could thrive in trading.</p><p>[1:09:02] Recommended resources for becoming a better investor.</p><p>[1:11:22] Nick seeks out "high, small hoops" for investment risks.</p><p>[1:14:00] Do businesses fail due to difficult model or lack of due diligence?</p><p>[1:16:55] When and why Nick decided to enter the restaurant business.</p><p>[1:18:26] The dinner leading to Nick and Grant Achatz's partnership.</p><p>[1:27:52] Why Nick chose to open a restaurant out of many risky options.</p><p>[1:30:33] How Nick spots talent early that others notice late.</p><p>[1:34:07] Questioning restaurant conventions like candles and white tablecloths.</p><p>[1:37:09] A now-famous chef was Alinea's first customer.</p><p>[1:38:03] Nick and Grant wouldn't let designers override their ideas.</p><p>[1:38:47] How Nick contributed effectively as a restaurant industry newcomer.</p><p>[1:14:19] Why Nick was "horrified" when Alinea won Best Restaurant in 2006.</p><p>[1:43:50] Grant's cancer diagnosis; writing a book and revolutionizing reservations.</p><p>[1:45:28] Traditional restaurant reservation systems and Nick's improvements.</p><p>[1:57:17] Bickering at press dinner; avoiding Next becoming "Disneyland of cuisine."</p><p>[2:02:14] Reservation software problems; variable pricing based on day of week.</p><p>[2:05:48] The moment Nick realized "This is the best thing I've ever built."</p><p>[2:07:41] Why the reservation system's rewards were worth the asymmetric risks.</p><p>[2:10:16] Using Marimekko charts to visualize restaurant and sponsorship data.</p><p>[2:16:57] The next industry Nick wants to disrupt: truffles.</p><p>[2:18:55] Illuminating black boxes.</p><p>[2:26:24] Self-selection of job roles; how Nick's hiring process has changed.</p><p>[2:32:01] Systems Nick uses to cope with a lot of email.</p><p>[2:37:43] Importance of engaging on social media, even if unable to respond to all.</p><p>[2:39:35] What "puzzle" filters and mini-hurdles in correspondence accomplish.</p><p>[2:40:36] Comparing similarities between the music and publishing industries.</p><p>[2:49:55] The agency problem as another black box.</p><p>[2:54:58] The Hembergers, The Alinea Project, and the upcoming independent Aviary Book.</p><p>[3:01:42] A brief discussion about cocktails.</p><p>[3:05:42] Books Nick has gifted most and how he personalizes gifts.</p><p>[3:08:10] Nick's billboard.</p><p>[3:09:49] Parting thoughts.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4de1fd4072494fe3a40c498d38eeec24/">#737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4de1fd4072494fe3a40c498d38eeec24/&notes=#737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #97 "Naval Ravikant — The Person I Call Most for Startup Advice" and episode #341 "Nick Kokonas — How to Apply World-Class Creativity to Business, Art, and Life."</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra</strong></a> <strong>sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://eightsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://eightsleep.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra)</strong></p><p><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Momentous</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-quality supplements:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://livemomentous.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://livemomentous.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(code TIM for 20% off)</strong></p><p><a href="https://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>LinkedIn Jobs</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;recruitment platform with 1B+ users:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://linkedin.com/tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;(post your job for free)</strong></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>[00:00] Start</p><p>[04:34] Notes about this supercombo format.</p><p>[05:53] Enter Naval Ravikant.</p><p>[06:05] On uncompromising honesty.</p><p>[08:05] What Naval looks for when deciding to invest in a founder.</p><p>[11:03] Recommended reading from outside the startup world.</p><p>[18:38] Who Naval considers successful.</p><p>[21:02] Cultivating non-judgmental awareness.</p><p>[26:08] How to replace bad habits with good habits.</p><p>[29:31] Naval's advice for his younger self.</p><p>[32:01] Naval's billboard.</p><p>[35:46] Enter Nick Kokonas.</p><p>[36:05] Is pressure Nick's default setting, or are perceived risks an illusion?</p><p>[36:55] How do behavioral economics and Richard Thaler influence Nick's approach?</p><p>[41:38] Nick's transition from philosophy to finance; was philosophy an asset?</p><p>[42:43] Why Nick's professor gave him shorter assignments than classmates.</p><p>[44:57] Nick's introduction to trading; dumbing down academics for clerk job.</p><p>[46:42] Why philosophy majors often become traders.</p><p>[47:19] Why Nick is glad he didn't pursue an MBA in 1992.</p><p>[48:41] Why Nick thinks his professor singled him out from his peers.</p><p>[52:52] Recommended books for aspiring entrepreneurs without philosophy background.</p><p>[57:31] Did being a Merc clerk meet Nick's expectations?</p><p>[1:00:02] How Nick followed his father's entrepreneurial model in trading.</p><p>[1:04:38] Why Nick left his mentor after a year to start his own company.</p><p>[1:05:41] How Nick and employees trained to quicken mental agility for trading.</p><p>[1:08:17] The moment Nick realized he could thrive in trading.</p><p>[1:09:02] Recommended resources for becoming a better investor.</p><p>[1:11:22] Nick seeks out "high, small hoops" for investment risks.</p><p>[1:14:00] Do businesses fail due to difficult model or lack of due diligence?</p><p>[1:16:55] When and why Nick decided to enter the restaurant business.</p><p>[1:18:26] The dinner leading to Nick and Grant Achatz's partnership.</p><p>[1:27:52] Why Nick chose to open a restaurant out of many risky options.</p><p>[1:30:33] How Nick spots talent early that others notice late.</p><p>[1:34:07] Questioning restaurant conventions like candles and white tablecloths.</p><p>[1:37:09] A now-famous chef was Alinea's first customer.</p><p>[1:38:03] Nick and Grant wouldn't let designers override their ideas.</p><p>[1:38:47] How Nick contributed effectively as a restaurant industry newcomer.</p><p>[1:14:19] Why Nick was "horrified" when Alinea won Best Restaurant in 2006.</p><p>[1:43:50] Grant's cancer diagnosis; writing a book and revolutionizing reservations.</p><p>[1:45:28] Traditional restaurant reservation systems and Nick's improvements.</p><p>[1:57:17] Bickering at press dinner; avoiding Next becoming "Disneyland of cuisine."</p><p>[2:02:14] Reservation software problems; variable pricing based on day of week.</p><p>[2:05:48] The moment Nick realized "This is the best thing I've ever built."</p><p>[2:07:41] Why the reservation system's rewards were worth the asymmetric risks.</p><p>[2:10:16] Using Marimekko charts to visualize restaurant and sponsorship data.</p><p>[2:16:57] The next industry Nick wants to disrupt: truffles.</p><p>[2:18:55] Illuminating black boxes.</p><p>[2:26:24] Self-selection of job roles; how Nick's hiring process has changed.</p><p>[2:32:01] Systems Nick uses to cope with a lot of email.</p><p>[2:37:43] Importance of engaging on social media, even if unable to respond to all.</p><p>[2:39:35] What "puzzle" filters and mini-hurdles in correspondence accomplish.</p><p>[2:40:36] Comparing similarities between the music and publishing industries.</p><p>[2:49:55] The agency problem as another black box.</p><p>[2:54:58] The Hembergers, The Alinea Project, and the upcoming independent Aviary Book.</p><p>[3:01:42] A brief discussion about cocktails.</p><p>[3:05:42] Books Nick has gifted most and how he personalizes gifts.</p><p>[3:08:10] Nick's billboard.</p><p>[3:09:49] Parting thoughts.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a 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target="_blank">Sir Richard Branson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chuck Palahniuk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arianna Huffington</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reid Hoffman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Burr</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whitney Cummings</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darren Aronofsky</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Margaret Atwood</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Zuckerberg</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter Thiel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Gabor Maté</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Lamott</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Silverman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Andrew Huberman</a>, and many more.</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener 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Episode: #737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas
Pub date: 2024-05-15

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/real-coffee-with-scott-adams-scott-adams-_5XYlCduDRs/">Real Coffee with Scott Adams</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dab505da8e8a44b79349f2a74997ae9f/">A Conversation With Naval Ravikant CWSA 11/07/24</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-11-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dab505da8e8a44b79349f2a74997ae9f/&notes=A Conversation With Naval Ravikant CWSA 11/07/24">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/real-coffee-with-scott-adams-Boa86dDZmk1-_5XYlCduDRs.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Naval Ravikant, Scott Adams</p>
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Podcast: Real Coffee with Scott Adams
Episode: A Conversation With Naval Ravikant CWSA 11/07/24
Pub date: 2024-11-08

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:59:39 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/35927303ceca4c26ac71574262bca446/">#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/35927303ceca4c26ac71574262bca446/&notes=#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Aaron Stupple</strong> (<a href="https://twitter.com/astupple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@astupple</a>) is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sovereign-Child-Forgotten-Philosophy-Liberate-ebook/dp/B0DR36P28C/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents</em></strong></a>. <strong>Naval Ravikant </strong>(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.angellist.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AngelList</a>. He has invested in more than 100 <a href="https://tim.blog/combo/#WEEK-OF-MAY-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">companies</a>, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish.</p><p>Stick around after the end of our three-person conversation to listen to <strong>an exclusive bonus segment that Naval and Aaron recorded</strong> with extra practical tips, as well as incremental, day-to-day experiments you can test and apply. <strong>It’s super tactical, so you won’t want to miss it</strong>. It begins at <strong>02:17:01</strong>.</p><p><strong>Sponsors</strong>:</p><p><a href="https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Sundays for Dogs</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;ultra-high-quality dog food: </strong><a href="https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim</strong></a> <strong>(save 50% on your first order) </strong></p><p><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</strong></a><strong>:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Seed.com/Tim</strong></a>&nbsp;(Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply)</p><p><a href="http://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;shipping software: </strong><a href="https://www.shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://www.shipstation.com/tim</strong></a> <strong>(60-day free trial!)</strong></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>[00:00] Coming up in this episode </p><p>[08:40] Who is Aaron, and what makes him qualified to dispense parenting advice?</p><p>[13:44] Taking Children Seriously (TCS) and The Sovereign Child philosophies.</p><p>[17:49] The David Deutsch influence on these tenets.</p><p>[22:57] Supporting evidence and long-term case studies.</p><p>[27:17] Ways Naval and Aaron have incorporated these philosophies into their own parenting.</p><p>[31:13] How rules work while parenting for freedom-maximizing.</p><p>[37:42] Why building knowledge beats coercion.</p><p>[43:41] Non-negotiables.</p><p>[46:35] Is this method of parenting only accessible to the educated elite?</p><p>[50:05] Handling sibling conflict.</p><p>[54:41] How do freedom-maximized kids adapt to an adulthood of endless societal rules?</p><p>[58:55] When kids present counter-accountability.</p><p>[01:00:41] One tool does not fix all.</p><p>[01:03:52] Putting mistakes to good use.</p><p>[01:08:00] Homeschooling, unschooling, and socialization challenges.</p><p>[01:15:56] Building resilience.</p><p>[01:20:23] Coping with food and drink cravings.</p><p>[01:25:54] Avoiding the terminology of confirmation bias.</p><p>[01:31:37] Sports.</p><p>[01:35:09] Organically cultivating interests.</p><p>[01:38:11] The pros and cons of traditional schooling.</p><p>[01:47:24] Parental disagreements and avoiding hypocrisy.</p><p>[01:57:18] Four categories of harm that come from rules.</p><p>[02:00:38] The benefits of optional constraints.</p><p>[02:05:32] Body Electric.</p><p>[02:07:03] Things you should know before visiting the emergency room.</p><p>[02:13:18] A hierarchy of knowledge and lessons learned from this conversation.</p><p>[02:17:19] Tactics for addressing sibling (and spousal) conflict.</p><p>[02:19:47] Tactics to foster learning.</p><p>[02:22:54] The best baby (and adult) sitter.</p><p>[02:26:07] Parenting into the teen years.</p><p>[02:27:54] Tactics for forming good sleep habits.</p><p>[02:31:20] Tactics for encouraging good eating habits.</p><p>[02:37:34] Tactics for freedom-maximizing.</p><p>[02:42:56] Tactics for minimizing screen and social media obsession.</p><p>[02:55:29] Too cool for rules.</p><p>[03:00:14] All information is subject to challenge.</p><p>[03:03:10] Happiness and creativity cannot be forced.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/35927303ceca4c26ac71574262bca446/">#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-01-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/35927303ceca4c26ac71574262bca446/&notes=#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Aaron Stupple</strong> (<a href="https://twitter.com/astupple" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@astupple</a>) is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sovereign-Child-Forgotten-Philosophy-Liberate-ebook/dp/B0DR36P28C/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents</em></strong></a>. <strong>Naval Ravikant </strong>(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.angellist.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AngelList</a>. He has invested in more than 100 <a href="https://tim.blog/combo/#WEEK-OF-MAY-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">companies</a>, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish.</p><p>Stick around after the end of our three-person conversation to listen to <strong>an exclusive bonus segment that Naval and Aaron recorded</strong> with extra practical tips, as well as incremental, day-to-day experiments you can test and apply. <strong>It’s super tactical, so you won’t want to miss it</strong>. It begins at <strong>02:17:01</strong>.</p><p><strong>Sponsors</strong>:</p><p><a href="https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Sundays for Dogs</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;ultra-high-quality dog food: </strong><a href="https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim</strong></a> <strong>(save 50% on your first order) </strong></p><p><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</strong></a><strong>:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Seed.com/Tim</strong></a>&nbsp;(Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply)</p><p><a href="http://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;shipping software: </strong><a 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rules?</p><p>[58:55] When kids present counter-accountability.</p><p>[01:00:41] One tool does not fix all.</p><p>[01:03:52] Putting mistakes to good use.</p><p>[01:08:00] Homeschooling, unschooling, and socialization challenges.</p><p>[01:15:56] Building resilience.</p><p>[01:20:23] Coping with food and drink cravings.</p><p>[01:25:54] Avoiding the terminology of confirmation bias.</p><p>[01:31:37] Sports.</p><p>[01:35:09] Organically cultivating interests.</p><p>[01:38:11] The pros and cons of traditional schooling.</p><p>[01:47:24] Parental disagreements and avoiding hypocrisy.</p><p>[01:57:18] Four categories of harm that come from rules.</p><p>[02:00:38] The benefits of optional constraints.</p><p>[02:05:32] Body Electric.</p><p>[02:07:03] Things you should know before visiting the emergency room.</p><p>[02:13:18] A hierarchy of knowledge and lessons learned from this conversation.</p><p>[02:17:19] Tactics for addressing sibling (and spousal) conflict.</p><p>[02:19:47] Tactics to foster learning.</p><p>[02:22:54] The best baby (and adult) sitter.</p><p>[02:26:07] Parenting into the teen years.</p><p>[02:27:54] Tactics for forming good sleep habits.</p><p>[02:31:20] Tactics for encouraging good eating habits.</p><p>[02:37:34] Tactics for freedom-maximizing.</p><p>[02:42:56] Tactics for minimizing screen and social media obsession.</p><p>[02:55:29] Too cool for rules.</p><p>[03:00:14] All information is subject to challenge.</p><p>[03:03:10] Happiness and creativity cannot be forced.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors 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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/610318deab9b4604bc78566b425b120e/">#794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/610318deab9b4604bc78566b425b120e/&notes=#794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Brandon Sanderson</strong> is the #1 <em>New York Times</em> bestselling author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stormlight-Archive-Books-1-4-Oathbringer-ebook/dp/B0C5726Y6M/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Stormlight Archive</em></a> series and the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4N71QWS/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mistborn</em></a> saga; the middle-grade series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CCKTNR/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians</em></a>; and the young-adult novels <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rithmatist-Brandon-Sanderson-ebook/dp/B00AJGNICW/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Rithmatist</em></a>, the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C1YZTSV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reckoners</em></a> trilogy, and the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGLGJBH/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Skyward</em></a> series. He has sold more than 40 million books in 35 languages, and he is a four-time nominee for the Hugo Awards, winning in 2013 for his novella <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Soul-Elantris-Book-ebook/dp/B00A1XOPE8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Emperor’s Soul</em></a>.</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Cresset</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://cressetcapital.com/tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;(book a call today)</strong></p><p><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</strong></a><strong>:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Seed.com/Tim</strong></a>&nbsp;(Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply)</p><p><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-yield cash account:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Wealthfront.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p><p><em>New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional&nbsp; 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). 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Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.</em></p><p>*</p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>00:00 Meet Brandon Sanderson</p><p>07:10 Soundcheck Fun and Memory Skills</p><p>11:21 Brandon's Writing Journey and Creative Process</p><p>25:35 Teaching Creative Writing and Publishing Insights</p><p>38:08 Brandon's Early Reading Experience</p><p>44:18 Discovering the Magic of Storytelling</p><p>45:32 A Journey from C Student to A Student</p><p>47:02 The Influence of a Great Teacher</p><p>48:51 Understanding Narrative and Plot</p><p>56:42 The Art of Character Development</p><p>01:09:42 Balancing Writing and Personal Life</p><p>01:24:04 Meeting Editors and Early Struggles</p><p>01:24:30 First Book Sale and Financial Realities</p><p>01:25:28 The Danger of the Second Book</p><p>01:25:49 Hitting the Bestseller List</p><p>01:26:34 Amazon and the Changing Market</p><p>01:29:03 Entrepreneurial Shift and Direct Sales</p><p>01:36:45 Building a Team and Crowdfunding</p><p>01:42:50 Kickstarter Success and Lessons Learned</p><p>01:52:22 COVID and Creative Freedom</p><p>02:02:53 Brandon Sanderson's Colbert Report Cameo</p><p>02:03:48 Kickstarter Success and Subscription Boxes</p><p>02:09:01 Test Readers and Feedback Process</p><p>02:14:16 Warbreaker and Creative Commons Experiment</p><p>02:22:50 Navigating Publishing Deals and Platforms</p><p>02:33:26 The Wheel of Time Opportunity</p><p>02:42:36 The Call to Finish The Wheel of Time</p><p>02:43:10 Negotiating the Deal</p><p>02:43:56 The Struggles of Mistborn</p><p>02:45:02 The Cosmere and Building an Audience</p><p>02:48:25 The Death Spiral in Publishing</p><p>02:52:29 Magic Systems and Their Importance</p><p>03:00:39 Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic</p><p>03:14:35 The Zero Law and Final Thoughts</p><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/610318deab9b4604bc78566b425b120e/">#794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/610318deab9b4604bc78566b425b120e/&notes=#794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Brandon Sanderson</strong> is the #1 <em>New York Times</em> bestselling author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stormlight-Archive-Books-1-4-Oathbringer-ebook/dp/B0C5726Y6M/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Stormlight Archive</em></a> series and the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4N71QWS/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Mistborn</em></a> saga; the middle-grade series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CCKTNR/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians</em></a>; and the young-adult novels <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rithmatist-Brandon-Sanderson-ebook/dp/B00AJGNICW/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Rithmatist</em></a>, the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C1YZTSV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reckoners</em></a> trilogy, and the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGLGJBH/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Skyward</em></a> series. He has sold more than 40 million books in 35 languages, and he is a four-time nominee for the Hugo Awards, winning in 2013 for his novella <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Soul-Elantris-Book-ebook/dp/B00A1XOPE8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Emperor’s Soul</em></a>.</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Cresset</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://cressetcapital.com/tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;(book a call today)</strong></p><p><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</strong></a><strong>:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://seed.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Seed.com/Tim</strong></a>&nbsp;(Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply)</p><p><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-yield cash account:&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://Wealthfront.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p><p><em>New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional&nbsp; 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest.&nbsp; Individual experiences and outcomes will differ.&nbsp;Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.</em></p><p>*</p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>00:00 Meet Brandon Sanderson</p><p>07:10 Soundcheck Fun and Memory Skills</p><p>11:21 Brandon's Writing Journey and Creative Process</p><p>25:35 Teaching Creative Writing and Publishing Insights</p><p>38:08 Brandon's Early Reading Experience</p><p>44:18 Discovering the Magic of Storytelling</p><p>45:32 A Journey from C Student to A Student</p><p>47:02 The Influence of a Great Teacher</p><p>48:51 Understanding Narrative and Plot</p><p>56:42 The Art of Character Development</p><p>01:09:42 Balancing Writing and Personal Life</p><p>01:24:04 Meeting Editors and Early Struggles</p><p>01:24:30 First Book Sale and Financial Realities</p><p>01:25:28 The Danger of the Second Book</p><p>01:25:49 Hitting the Bestseller List</p><p>01:26:34 Amazon and the Changing Market</p><p>01:29:03 Entrepreneurial Shift and Direct Sales</p><p>01:36:45 Building a Team and Crowdfunding</p><p>01:42:50 Kickstarter Success and Lessons Learned</p><p>01:52:22 COVID and Creative Freedom</p><p>02:02:53 Brandon Sanderson's Colbert Report Cameo</p><p>02:03:48 Kickstarter Success and Subscription Boxes</p><p>02:09:01 Test Readers and Feedback Process</p><p>02:14:16 Warbreaker and Creative Commons Experiment</p><p>02:22:50 Navigating Publishing Deals and Platforms</p><p>02:33:26 The Wheel of Time Opportunity</p><p>02:42:36 The Call to Finish The Wheel of Time</p><p>02:43:10 Negotiating the Deal</p><p>02:43:56 The Struggles of Mistborn</p><p>02:45:02 The Cosmere and Building an Audience</p><p>02:48:25 The Death Spiral in Publishing</p><p>02:52:29 Magic Systems and Their Importance</p><p>03:00:39 Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic</p><p>03:14:35 The Zero Law and Final Thoughts</p><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss 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Gladwell</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeleine Albright</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cheryl Strayed</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Collins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Karr,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Popova</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phelps</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Iger</a>,&nbsp;<a 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href="https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jocko Willink</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Ek</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Slater</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Peter Attia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seth Godin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Howard Marks</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Brené Brown</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/" rel="noopener 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rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darren Aronofsky</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Margaret Atwood</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Zuckerberg</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Peter Thiel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Gabor Maté</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anne Lamott</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sarah Silverman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Andrew Huberman</a>, and many more.</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #794: Brandon Sanderson on Building a Fiction Empire, Creating $40M+ Kickstarter Campaigns, Unbreakable Habits, The Art of World-Building, and The Science of Magic Systems
Pub date: 2025-02-05

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:59:13 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>03:23:00</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Antisemitism in Britain - An Interview With David Deutsch #928</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4081c3d09ac4791aafa84db66a849d0</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-yD8qltH0UNz/">The Daily Objective</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4081c3d09ac4791aafa84db66a849d0/">Antisemitism in Britain - An Interview With David Deutsch #928</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d4081c3d09ac4791aafa84db66a849d0/&notes=Antisemitism in Britain - An Interview With David Deutsch #928">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-gj7IlhBGvbP-yD8qltH0UNz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Youtube link: https://youtube.com/live/QYQcC3pz_fI</p><p><a href="https://aynrandcentre.co.uk/membership">Support the show</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Objectivist Media Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Podcast: The Daily Objective
Episode: Antisemitism in Britain - An Interview With David Deutsch #928
Pub date: 2023-12-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4081c3d09ac4791aafa84db66a849d0/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:55:04 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Objectivist Media Network</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:31:14</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics &amp; Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/7ca124e1ac8941daa18fc543c044f1e0</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-saad-truth-with-dr-saad-vIZXx3fQ9Mw/">The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7ca124e1ac8941daa18fc543c044f1e0/">Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-11-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7ca124e1ac8941daa18fc543c044f1e0/&notes=Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-saad-truth-with-dr-saad-4kjIq_GMAJV-vIZXx3fQ9Mw.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We discuss the hierarchy of the sciences, Fermat's Last Theorem, woke physicists, and Jew-hatred among many other fascinating topics.</p>
<p>David's website: <a href="https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk">https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk</a></p>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-saad-truth-with-dr-saad-vIZXx3fQ9Mw/">The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7ca124e1ac8941daa18fc543c044f1e0/">Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-11-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7ca124e1ac8941daa18fc543c044f1e0/&notes=Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-saad-truth-with-dr-saad-4kjIq_GMAJV-vIZXx3fQ9Mw.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We discuss the hierarchy of the sciences, Fermat's Last Theorem, woke physicists, and Jew-hatred among many other fascinating topics.</p>
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Podcast: The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad
Episode: Physicist Dr. David Deutsch Returns - Science, Mathematics & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_749)
Pub date: 2024-11-11

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:54:57 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>thesaadtruthwithdrsaad</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:23:54</itunes:duration>
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            <title>253 | David Deutsch on Science, Complexity, and Explanation</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-Lt8FqZeWIMU/">Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cf5ff74c990347a793cc74917dd93268/">253 | David Deutsch on Science, Complexity, and Explanation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cf5ff74c990347a793cc74917dd93268/&notes=253 | David Deutsch on Science, Complexity, and Explanation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-aPk4yuC2KHF-Lt8FqZeWIMU.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>David Deutsch is one of the most creative scientific thinkers working today, who has as a goal to understand and explain the natural world as best we can. He was a pioneer in quantum computing, and has long been an advocate of the Everett interpretation of quantum theory. He is also the inventor of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructor_theory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">constructor theory</a>, a new way of conceptualizing physics and science more broadly. But he also has a strong interest in philosophy and epistemology, championing a Popperian explanation-based approach over a rival Bayesian epistemology. We talk about all of these things and more, including his recent work on <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/302687a0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Popper-Miller theorem</a>, which specifies limitations on inductive approaches to knowledge and probability.</p> <p>Blog post with transcript: <a href="https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/10/16/253-david-deutsch-on-science-complexity-and-explanation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/10/16/253-david-deutsch-on-science-complexity-and-explanation/</a></p> <p>S<em>upport Mindscape on </em><a href="https://www.patreon.com/seanmcarroll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Patreon</em></a><em>.</em></p> <p>David Deutsch received his Ph.D. in theoretical physics from the University of Oxford. He is currently a visiting professor in the Department of Atomic and Laser Physics at Oxford. He is a pioneer in quantum computation as well as initiating <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructor_theory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">constructor theory</a>. His books include <em>The Fabric of Reality</em> and <em>The Beginning of Infinity</em>. Among his awards including the Dirac Prize, the Dirac Medal, the Edge of Computation Science Prize, the Isaac Newton Medal, the Breakthrough Physics Prize, and a Royal Society Fellowship.</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web site</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/our-people/deutsch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford web page</a></li> <li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C21&amp;q=david+deutsch&amp;btnG=&amp;oq=da" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Scholar publications</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APOF56" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon author page</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Deutsch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_after_billions_of_years_of_monotony_the_universe_is_waking_up?language=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TED talk: After Billions of Years of Monotony, the Universe is Waking Up</a></li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Carroll, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-Lt8FqZeWIMU/">Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cf5ff74c990347a793cc74917dd93268/">253 | David Deutsch on Science, Complexity, and Explanation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cf5ff74c990347a793cc74917dd93268/&notes=253 | David Deutsch on Science, Complexity, and Explanation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-aPk4yuC2KHF-Lt8FqZeWIMU.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>David Deutsch is one of the most creative scientific thinkers working today, who has as a goal to understand and explain the natural world as best we can. He was a pioneer in quantum computing, and has long been an advocate of the Everett interpretation of quantum theory. He is also the inventor of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructor_theory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">constructor theory</a>, a new way of conceptualizing physics and science more broadly. But he also has a strong interest in philosophy and epistemology, championing a Popperian explanation-based approach over a rival Bayesian epistemology. We talk about all of these things and more, including his recent work on <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/302687a0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Popper-Miller theorem</a>, which specifies limitations on inductive approaches to knowledge and probability.</p> <p>Blog post with transcript: <a href="https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/10/16/253-david-deutsch-on-science-complexity-and-explanation/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/10/16/253-david-deutsch-on-science-complexity-and-explanation/</a></p> <p>S<em>upport Mindscape on </em><a href="https://www.patreon.com/seanmcarroll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Patreon</em></a><em>.</em></p> <p>David Deutsch received his Ph.D. in theoretical physics from the University of Oxford. He is currently a visiting professor in the Department of Atomic and Laser Physics at Oxford. He is a pioneer in quantum computation as well as initiating <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructor_theory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">constructor theory</a>. His books include <em>The Fabric of Reality</em> and <em>The Beginning of Infinity</em>. Among his awards including the Dirac Prize, the Dirac Medal, the Edge of Computation Science Prize, the Isaac Newton Medal, the Breakthrough Physics Prize, and a Royal Society Fellowship.</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web site</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/our-people/deutsch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford web page</a></li> <li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C21&amp;q=david+deutsch&amp;btnG=&amp;oq=da" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Scholar publications</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APOF56" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon author page</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Deutsch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/david_deutsch_after_billions_of_years_of_monotony_the_universe_is_waking_up?language=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TED talk: After Billions of Years of Monotony, the Universe is Waking Up</a></li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Carroll, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/within-reason-alex-j-oconnor-eQWgk63mRds/">Within Reason</a> (LS 62 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/aba3d2dec42b40949d5e47bdc3509682/">#57 David Deutsch - The Multiverse is Real</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/aba3d2dec42b40949d5e47bdc3509682/&notes=#57 David Deutsch - The Multiverse is Real">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/within-reason-alex-j-oconnor-d_xC1KcDrOB-eQWgk63mRds.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>David Deutsch is a British physicist at the University of Oxford. He is a visiting professor in the Department of Atomic and Laser Physics at the Centre for Quantum Computation in the Clarendon Laboratory of the University of Oxford. (Wikipedia.)</p> <p>Buy David Deutsch's book, <a href="https://amzn.to/49D3rnR">The Beginning of Infinity</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Alex J O'Connor, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Pub date: 2024-03-05

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            <title>TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-copywriter-club-podcast-rob-marsh-RKsN5kV_e-Q/">The Copywriter Club Podcast</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d7e6384731ee40b29c3265430a81e696/">TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d7e6384731ee40b29c3265430a81e696/&notes=TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-copywriter-club-podcast-kira-hug-and-Ebh6cYFTX5g-RKsN5kV_e-Q.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Most writers focus on the writing part of copywriting, which only makes sense as we're writers. But maybe we should be doing more copythinking before we start to write. Our guest for the 415th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast is A-List Copywriter David Deutsch. And when it comes to thinking about copy, David has few peers. He talked about strategy, writing emotional copy, coming up with big ideas, and much more. Click the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript.



 
Stuff to check out:
David's website
The How to Write Emotional Copy Workshop
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground


 
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Rob Marsh: When we started The Copywriter Club Podcast, one of the things we were adamant about was that we would interview copywriters at all levels of experience and at all the various stages of their business journey. So we’ve spoken with copywriters who are just getting started along with those with years of experience. We’ve interviewed copywriters who call themselves content writers, strategists, consultants and various other titles. We’ve heard from marketers and authors and experts in all kinds of fields. In fact we used to start the podcast with the promise that you would listen and walk away with plenty of ideas you could “steal” for your own business.

With that background, it’s always a thrill to get the opportunity to interview an expert copywriter who has earned his place on the A-List. One of the go-to copywriters when it comes to being coached by one of the very best in the direct response world.

Hi, I’m Rob Marsh, and on today’s episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, I’m speaking with A-list copywriter David Deutsch. David has generated more than a billion dollars in sales over the course of his career. Not bad. And probably someone we can learn from. You’ll hear this in the interview, but one of the things David likes to talk about is the difference between writing and persuasion and copywriting. The two ought to be the same, but often they’re not. I know I say this every episode, but I think you’re going to like this interview. So stick around.

Before we jump in with David…

It’s October. Which means the year is 3/4 done… we’ve all got one more quarter to reach the goals we set for our businesses at the beginning of the year. So let me ask you, how is it going? Are you ahead or behind your goals? What can you accomplish in the next 12 weeks that will move your business forward and set you up for a successful 2025… hard to believe the decade is half over… any way in my opinion the best place for copywriters to stretch and reach their goals is The Copywriter Underground, the paid membership with more than 100 hours of training, including an entire course on selling, a mini-course on proposals, more than 27 different templates, including a legal agreement, and so many other resources designed to help you grow. And each month, we invite a different guest expert to teach a new skill… this month’s members-only persentation is by Email Marketing Hero Kennedy on creating lead magnets that attract buyers, not freebie seekers to your list. It’s the kind of skill that will help you build your own list and make you so much more valuable to your clients. It’s happening next week in The Copywriter Underground which you can join at thecopywriterclub.com/tcu.

And now, let's go to our interview with David…

David, welcome to The Copywriter Club Podcast. I would love to start with your story. How did you become a direct response copywriter, a copy coach, and I think what some people would even say, you know, original member of the A-list of copywriters that are out there? Tell us how you got there.

David Deutsch: Oh, well, thanks. It's great to be here, first of all. And, you know, I started on I don't know how far back to go, but I started my advertising career at Ogilvy and Mather in New York, which was David Ogilvy's agency back when he still occasionally roamed the halls. And I you know, worked in the ad world for a while after that. Um, and it was, it really taught me, first of all, of all the advertising people, David Ogilvie was the most accountable, the most direct response, enthusiastic. So I always had that training in, it's not just creativity, but it's selling right. And it's not creative unless it sells. And, um, When I first encountered Jay Abraham, I was like, wow, there's this whole world out there of direct response. There's this whole world out there of more accountable advertising. I want to be a part of that. So I kind of left the ad world and started working for the boardrooms, the Agoras, Healthy Direction, some of the big publishers, as well as all sorts of entrepreneurs and startups and fun stuff like that. But it was always more or less direct response oriented. It was always about getting a response, getting an order, getting a name. 

And after doing that for a few decades, I started teaching, coaching other people how to do it, because I kind of found that it's really pretty easy in a way to turn someone, turn their thinking, right? Most people think incorrectly about writing. They think, well, how can I write? How do I put the words? What are the right words to put on the page? Rather than, hey, you know, if you had to convince someone to go to a certain movie or to go to this restaurant versus that restaurant, you wouldn't sit down and be all writerly and try to compose something. You would just, your natural persuader would come out. So, I find that just getting people in touch with that kind of goes beyond all the formulas and the templates and all, which are great to have. But the main thing is, how do you get in touch with that ability that you naturally have to help people, help to persuade people? So that's what I do now. I still do some writing occasionally, although it's more partnerships, kind of getting together with people and creating a product or working with them as part of their team. and have my own products as well, because nothing keeps you as sharp in terms of writing.

Rob Marsh: You're having to sell your own things.

David Deutsch: It's like, boy, you really pay attention to the numbers. And that's what copywriting is in a way. It's as much of a science as it is an art.

Rob Marsh: I love that. So before we jump into how you do that and the strategy, all that, you're one of the last guys around that really remembers Ogilvy, David Ogilvy. His books, I think, almost set the stage for much of what became the direct response industry, even, you know, before the internet sort of, you know, took over a lot of that, but just tell us, you know, just a minute or two, your thoughts about that whole experience for you and how formative it was for you.

David Deutsch: Well, I think being at Ogilvy was kind of like being at a teaching hospital in a way, right? People taught each other and there was a body of learning that you learn from. It was partly a mythology in a certain way, which was interesting, right? The myth of David Ogilvy and what he did and how he was. And of course, he perpetuated that myth by occasionally wearing kilts and doing outrageous things in restaurants and doing outrageous things in presentations. But, you know he loved the English language. You can tell his writing is so masterful in its command, in its exactness, its use of language. And he loved getting results. He loved selling. He didn't just write for sport for its own sake, for winning awards, right? He called direct mail my first love and secret weapon. because he used it once to sell a hotel back in the day. And so, you know, and I think also his putting his teachings in different forms, right, in his lectures, in his books and things has kind of inspired me to share what I know, to be part of that passing on.

Rob Marsh: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love reading his books to this day. Some of the things that maybe he teaches are a little dated, but you know, I'd still say 80% of what he taught, what he talks about is applicable to the work that we do. Certainly what we're doing online, you know, where response is so much of what we have to do. But I'm a little bit jealous that you had that experience of being at Ogilvy in those days.

David Deutsch: Yeah, I'm very I'm grateful. Because It's like I fell into it in a certain way. You know, I got a job there. It wasn't even in the writing. And then I got into the writing part of it. But I was just like, Oh, I'm at an agency. That's interesting. You know? Yeah. And, but I kind of fell in love with it. You know, just got kind of swept up.

Rob Marsh: I think, yeah, I think that happens to a lot of us. I'm, you know, much the same way. I had an opportunity at the very beginning of my career to start writing and I've loved it ever since. Yeah, it's, it got its hooks in me and I've not wanted to let go. You mentioned when you left the agency, you started working with a lot of these big name direct mailers and it was all offline, I believe at the time. As you list off some of those names, I can imagine a lot of direct response copywriters thinking, wow, that's the A-list of clients. It feels charmed in a way. How did you connect with that first client that then led to the next, whether it's a boardroom or Agora or… Yeah, how did that all come together?

David Deutsch: Well, that's an interesting question, interesting story. In the Jay Abraham corpus of work, there was a mention of a guy named John Finn, who was a copywriter's agent in Los Angeles. And I thought, I should copy, I should copy, I should write to this guy. And I wrote to him. He was very receptive. And he hooked me up with different clients. and hooked me up with a guy named Jim Rutz, who was a very well-known writer in the world of direct response and in those big, you know, with those big companies. And I started working with Jim Rutz, which was a great learning experience,<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rob Marsh, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-copywriter-club-podcast-rob-marsh-RKsN5kV_e-Q/">The Copywriter Club Podcast</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d7e6384731ee40b29c3265430a81e696/">TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-10-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d7e6384731ee40b29c3265430a81e696/&notes=TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-copywriter-club-podcast-kira-hug-and-Ebh6cYFTX5g-RKsN5kV_e-Q.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Most writers focus on the writing part of copywriting, which only makes sense as we're writers. But maybe we should be doing more copythinking before we start to write. Our guest for the 415th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast is A-List Copywriter David Deutsch. And when it comes to thinking about copy, David has few peers. He talked about strategy, writing emotional copy, coming up with big ideas, and much more. Click the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript.



 
Stuff to check out:
David's website
The How to Write Emotional Copy Workshop
The Copywriter Club Facebook Group
The Copywriter Underground


 
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Rob Marsh: When we started The Copywriter Club Podcast, one of the things we were adamant about was that we would interview copywriters at all levels of experience and at all the various stages of their business journey. So we’ve spoken with copywriters who are just getting started along with those with years of experience. We’ve interviewed copywriters who call themselves content writers, strategists, consultants and various other titles. We’ve heard from marketers and authors and experts in all kinds of fields. In fact we used to start the podcast with the promise that you would listen and walk away with plenty of ideas you could “steal” for your own business.

With that background, it’s always a thrill to get the opportunity to interview an expert copywriter who has earned his place on the A-List. One of the go-to copywriters when it comes to being coached by one of the very best in the direct response world.

Hi, I’m Rob Marsh, and on today’s episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, I’m speaking with A-list copywriter David Deutsch. David has generated more than a billion dollars in sales over the course of his career. Not bad. And probably someone we can learn from. You’ll hear this in the interview, but one of the things David likes to talk about is the difference between writing and persuasion and copywriting. The two ought to be the same, but often they’re not. I know I say this every episode, but I think you’re going to like this interview. So stick around.

Before we jump in with David…

It’s October. Which means the year is 3/4 done… we’ve all got one more quarter to reach the goals we set for our businesses at the beginning of the year. So let me ask you, how is it going? Are you ahead or behind your goals? What can you accomplish in the next 12 weeks that will move your business forward and set you up for a successful 2025… hard to believe the decade is half over… any way in my opinion the best place for copywriters to stretch and reach their goals is The Copywriter Underground, the paid membership with more than 100 hours of training, including an entire course on selling, a mini-course on proposals, more than 27 different templates, including a legal agreement, and so many other resources designed to help you grow. And each month, we invite a different guest expert to teach a new skill… this month’s members-only persentation is by Email Marketing Hero Kennedy on creating lead magnets that attract buyers, not freebie seekers to your list. It’s the kind of skill that will help you build your own list and make you so much more valuable to your clients. It’s happening next week in The Copywriter Underground which you can join at thecopywriterclub.com/tcu.

And now, let's go to our interview with David…

David, welcome to The Copywriter Club Podcast. I would love to start with your story. How did you become a direct response copywriter, a copy coach, and I think what some people would even say, you know, original member of the A-list of copywriters that are out there? Tell us how you got there.

David Deutsch: Oh, well, thanks. It's great to be here, first of all. And, you know, I started on I don't know how far back to go, but I started my advertising career at Ogilvy and Mather in New York, which was David Ogilvy's agency back when he still occasionally roamed the halls. And I you know, worked in the ad world for a while after that. Um, and it was, it really taught me, first of all, of all the advertising people, David Ogilvie was the most accountable, the most direct response, enthusiastic. So I always had that training in, it's not just creativity, but it's selling right. And it's not creative unless it sells. And, um, When I first encountered Jay Abraham, I was like, wow, there's this whole world out there of direct response. There's this whole world out there of more accountable advertising. I want to be a part of that. So I kind of left the ad world and started working for the boardrooms, the Agoras, Healthy Direction, some of the big publishers, as well as all sorts of entrepreneurs and startups and fun stuff like that. But it was always more or less direct response oriented. It was always about getting a response, getting an order, getting a name. 

And after doing that for a few decades, I started teaching, coaching other people how to do it, because I kind of found that it's really pretty easy in a way to turn someone, turn their thinking, right? Most people think incorrectly about writing. They think, well, how can I write? How do I put the words? What are the right words to put on the page? Rather than, hey, you know, if you had to convince someone to go to a certain movie or to go to this restaurant versus that restaurant, you wouldn't sit down and be all writerly and try to compose something. You would just, your natural persuader would come out. So, I find that just getting people in touch with that kind of goes beyond all the formulas and the templates and all, which are great to have. But the main thing is, how do you get in touch with that ability that you naturally have to help people, help to persuade people? So that's what I do now. I still do some writing occasionally, although it's more partnerships, kind of getting together with people and creating a product or working with them as part of their team. and have my own products as well, because nothing keeps you as sharp in terms of writing.

Rob Marsh: You're having to sell your own things.

David Deutsch: It's like, boy, you really pay attention to the numbers. And that's what copywriting is in a way. It's as much of a science as it is an art.

Rob Marsh: I love that. So before we jump into how you do that and the strategy, all that, you're one of the last guys around that really remembers Ogilvy, David Ogilvy. His books, I think, almost set the stage for much of what became the direct response industry, even, you know, before the internet sort of, you know, took over a lot of that, but just tell us, you know, just a minute or two, your thoughts about that whole experience for you and how formative it was for you.

David Deutsch: Well, I think being at Ogilvy was kind of like being at a teaching hospital in a way, right? People taught each other and there was a body of learning that you learn from. It was partly a mythology in a certain way, which was interesting, right? The myth of David Ogilvy and what he did and how he was. And of course, he perpetuated that myth by occasionally wearing kilts and doing outrageous things in restaurants and doing outrageous things in presentations. But, you know he loved the English language. You can tell his writing is so masterful in its command, in its exactness, its use of language. And he loved getting results. He loved selling. He didn't just write for sport for its own sake, for winning awards, right? He called direct mail my first love and secret weapon. because he used it once to sell a hotel back in the day. And so, you know, and I think also his putting his teachings in different forms, right, in his lectures, in his books and things has kind of inspired me to share what I know, to be part of that passing on.

Rob Marsh: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love reading his books to this day. Some of the things that maybe he teaches are a little dated, but you know, I'd still say 80% of what he taught, what he talks about is applicable to the work that we do. Certainly what we're doing online, you know, where response is so much of what we have to do. But I'm a little bit jealous that you had that experience of being at Ogilvy in those days.

David Deutsch: Yeah, I'm very I'm grateful. Because It's like I fell into it in a certain way. You know, I got a job there. It wasn't even in the writing. And then I got into the writing part of it. But I was just like, Oh, I'm at an agency. That's interesting. You know? Yeah. And, but I kind of fell in love with it. You know, just got kind of swept up.

Rob Marsh: I think, yeah, I think that happens to a lot of us. I'm, you know, much the same way. I had an opportunity at the very beginning of my career to start writing and I've loved it ever since. Yeah, it's, it got its hooks in me and I've not wanted to let go. You mentioned when you left the agency, you started working with a lot of these big name direct mailers and it was all offline, I believe at the time. As you list off some of those names, I can imagine a lot of direct response copywriters thinking, wow, that's the A-list of clients. It feels charmed in a way. How did you connect with that first client that then led to the next, whether it's a boardroom or Agora or… Yeah, how did that all come together?

David Deutsch: Well, that's an interesting question, interesting story. In the Jay Abraham corpus of work, there was a mention of a guy named John Finn, who was a copywriter's agent in Los Angeles. And I thought, I should copy, I should copy, I should write to this guy. And I wrote to him. He was very receptive. And he hooked me up with different clients. and hooked me up with a guy named Jim Rutz, who was a very well-known writer in the world of direct response and in those big, you know, with those big companies. And I started working with Jim Rutz, which was a great learning experience,<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rob Marsh, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: TCC Podcast #415: Copythinking with David Deutsch
Pub date: 2024-10-01

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-hanania-show-richard-hanania-YneFJD4o7gV/">The Hanania Show</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/58ffe8979529450b960875dff3b4c1ec/">Does God Want You to Listen to This Conversation?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/58ffe8979529450b960875dff3b4c1ec/&notes=Does God Want You to Listen to This Conversation?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-hanania-show-richard-hanania-UZkYthJzsfj-YneFJD4o7gV.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I am honored to have <em>New York Times</em> columnist <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat" target="_blank">Ross Douthat</a> on the podcast to talk about his new book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310367581/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=believe&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_7&#38;crid=2U69BA7433866&#38;sprefix=believe" target="_blank"><em>Believe: Why Everyone Should be Religious</em></a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310367581/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=believe&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_7&#38;crid=2U69BA7433866&#38;sprefix=believe" target="_blank">.</a> </p><p>I’ve always seen atheism as my first intellectual position. Upon learning that many Christian doctrines declare that non-believers go to hell and are tortured for all eternity, I decided I needed to look into whether their claims were true and came to the conclusion that they most certainly weren’t. </p><p>Yet I don’t completely dismiss the idea that something beyond the natural world might be out there. Bentham’s Bulldog <a href="https://benthams.substack.com/p/arguments-for-god-tier-list" target="_blank">writes pieces</a> on theism and makes arguments that I’m unsure how to think about but don’t strike me as obvious nonsense. A 2020 <a href="https://survey2020.philpeople.org/survey/results/all?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_blank">survey</a> showed that 19% of philosophers leaned towards theism, so it’s not like the position is akin to anti-vaxx or young earth creationism, where none of the trained experts take the claims involved seriously. The fact that people just as smart as me have thought longer and harder about the subject and arrived at the position that God exists is enough to give me perhaps a bit of doubt about my atheism. </p><p>Debates around theism strike me as similar to those about AI doom. I can develop strong opinions on topics when there is empirical data we can bring to a question. So I have confident views on the best economic system, the role of heredity in determining cognitive and personality outcomes, what causes some voters to support Donald Trump, and whether humans have seen a major increase in living standards over the course of history. When it comes to speculation, trying to follow chains of reasoning, and arguments derived from analogies and thought experiments – which I think is most of what we have in debates over theism and AI doom – I don’t trust myself or other people to be able to do any of this well. </p><p>Douthat is someone whose political and cultural writings I’ve always found interesting, so I decided to give his new book a try. <em>Believe </em>focuses mostly on attempting to convince the reader that there is something out there beyond material reality, with only the last chapter making the case for Christianity. I found myself dividing the arguments into a few baskets. The best arguments for theism I think rest on fine-tuning and the mystery of consciousness. I found the supposed evidence for the existence of the supernatural – miracles, demons, the power of prayer, near-death experiences, etc. –  less compelling. This was much of the focus of his <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/ross-douthat-3/" target="_blank">conversation with Tyler</a>, who also sounded very skeptical. </p><p>I ask Ross to assign probabilities on the supernatural being real, Christianity being true, and Catholicism being true. I then explain my main moral problem with traditional Christian dogma, which is that some portion of humanity will be sentenced to everlasting torture. We tend to think that any punishment should fit the crime one is guilty of. Few would say that an individual who has committed a dastardly act should be held down and tortured for decades, which leads to the question of why an all-knowing, all-loving God would do something similar on a much longer timescale. </p><p>We talk a good bit about the role of providence in human affairs, which I found quite fun. The conversation swerves into how Ross thinks about someone like Trump playing a preordained role in history. On the surface, this might seem like a somewhat silly part of our discussion, but it actually raises intriguing questions regarding how the mechanics of God intervening in human affairs would actually work.</p><p>Near the end, we get to the part of Ross’s book I’m most skeptical of, which is the alleged evidence for supernatural experience. If prayer is real, why not conduct a double-blind randomized study? I also bring up the <a href="https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1892626641043566651" target="_blank">Randi Prize challenge</a>, which offered $1 million to anyone who could demonstrate supernatural abilities but never had to pay out. I have to confess however that I do find <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/its-nexplicable-a-broken-radio-suddenly-plays-soothing-music-at-just-the-right-time/2018/01/26/ffc4fcc8-d480-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html" target="_blank">the story</a> told by professional skeptic Michael Shermer about how his wife’s old radio started working on their wedding day to be very weird. </p><p>I do sort of love the idea that God is like a writer for a prestige TV drama, and history has all these A and B list characters that He shuffles around in order to move the plot along. The Roman Empire is maybe its own season. World War II was the finale of the one that began as the Industrial Revolution was taking off. Now we’re in the middle of Season 8, and AI, which started out as a minor character in the background, is about to become the main protagonist. The series finale is of course Judgment Day. </p><p>People like Trump and Putin are the main characters, the Starks and the Lannisters, while we lesser mortals are akin to the slaughtered hordes left on the numerous battlefields of the War of the Five Kings. The Hanania subplot is a pretty cool one. Five years ago I was nobody, now I at least have a (very bad) Wikipedia page, and can reach hundreds of thousands or millions of people on a daily basis, leading my fans closer to God or everlasting damnation. I start out as a rightoid, move towards rightist-tinged rationalism, become an influential figure among Elite Human Capital as I disparage the existence of the supernatural. Razib uses the tools of <a href="https://www.razibkhan.com/p/more-than-kin-less-than-kind-jews?r=u0rd&#38;utm_campaign=post" target="_blank">modern science</a> to show I am related to Jesus and his neighbors in ancient Palestine, as the Lord starts speaking to me about how God is actually real, hoping to use (knowing he will use?) my biography and background to bring others into His flock. Ross Douthat convinces me to believe in God, I return to the faith of my ancestors, actually my childhood, and they run a big feature in the <em>New York Times </em>about what happened. All thinking people read it and become convinced God is real, helping us shake free of our cultural decadence and existential anxiety as humanity moves towards a new Golden Age. All thanks to me and this podcast. Oh and you get to live in a state of bliss for all eternity. </p><p>Very seductive! I can see the appeal of this. But as I tell Ross, short of the Lord or one of his angels appearing directly next to me, I have no way of understanding how one would distinguish Him sending me a sign from my own wishful thinking and intoxication with a very cool narrative that gives me an important role to play in a great cosmic story.</p><p>I did not become a Christian while talking to Ross, but I enjoyed his book, and perhaps some other souls will be saved among the listeners of this conversation. I think I will take him up on his suggestion to read <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300259808/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=they%20flew%20carlos%20eire&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_8&#38;crid=32OHURX3VY0PK&#38;sprefix=they%20fle" target="_blank"><em>They Flew</em></a> and hope to also look into the question of the historical Jesus before long. </p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.richardhanania.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.richardhanania.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Richard Hanania, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-hanania-show-richard-hanania-YneFJD4o7gV/">The Hanania Show</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/58ffe8979529450b960875dff3b4c1ec/">Does God Want You to Listen to This Conversation?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/58ffe8979529450b960875dff3b4c1ec/&notes=Does God Want You to Listen to This Conversation?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-hanania-show-richard-hanania-UZkYthJzsfj-YneFJD4o7gV.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I am honored to have <em>New York Times</em> columnist <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat" target="_blank">Ross Douthat</a> on the podcast to talk about his new book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310367581/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=believe&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_7&#38;crid=2U69BA7433866&#38;sprefix=believe" target="_blank"><em>Believe: Why Everyone Should be Religious</em></a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310367581/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=believe&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_7&#38;crid=2U69BA7433866&#38;sprefix=believe" target="_blank">.</a> </p><p>I’ve always seen atheism as my first intellectual position. Upon learning that many Christian doctrines declare that non-believers go to hell and are tortured for all eternity, I decided I needed to look into whether their claims were true and came to the conclusion that they most certainly weren’t. </p><p>Yet I don’t completely dismiss the idea that something beyond the natural world might be out there. Bentham’s Bulldog <a href="https://benthams.substack.com/p/arguments-for-god-tier-list" target="_blank">writes pieces</a> on theism and makes arguments that I’m unsure how to think about but don’t strike me as obvious nonsense. A 2020 <a href="https://survey2020.philpeople.org/survey/results/all?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_blank">survey</a> showed that 19% of philosophers leaned towards theism, so it’s not like the position is akin to anti-vaxx or young earth creationism, where none of the trained experts take the claims involved seriously. The fact that people just as smart as me have thought longer and harder about the subject and arrived at the position that God exists is enough to give me perhaps a bit of doubt about my atheism. </p><p>Debates around theism strike me as similar to those about AI doom. I can develop strong opinions on topics when there is empirical data we can bring to a question. So I have confident views on the best economic system, the role of heredity in determining cognitive and personality outcomes, what causes some voters to support Donald Trump, and whether humans have seen a major increase in living standards over the course of history. When it comes to speculation, trying to follow chains of reasoning, and arguments derived from analogies and thought experiments – which I think is most of what we have in debates over theism and AI doom – I don’t trust myself or other people to be able to do any of this well. </p><p>Douthat is someone whose political and cultural writings I’ve always found interesting, so I decided to give his new book a try. <em>Believe </em>focuses mostly on attempting to convince the reader that there is something out there beyond material reality, with only the last chapter making the case for Christianity. I found myself dividing the arguments into a few baskets. The best arguments for theism I think rest on fine-tuning and the mystery of consciousness. I found the supposed evidence for the existence of the supernatural – miracles, demons, the power of prayer, near-death experiences, etc. –  less compelling. This was much of the focus of his <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/ross-douthat-3/" target="_blank">conversation with Tyler</a>, who also sounded very skeptical. </p><p>I ask Ross to assign probabilities on the supernatural being real, Christianity being true, and Catholicism being true. I then explain my main moral problem with traditional Christian dogma, which is that some portion of humanity will be sentenced to everlasting torture. We tend to think that any punishment should fit the crime one is guilty of. Few would say that an individual who has committed a dastardly act should be held down and tortured for decades, which leads to the question of why an all-knowing, all-loving God would do something similar on a much longer timescale. </p><p>We talk a good bit about the role of providence in human affairs, which I found quite fun. The conversation swerves into how Ross thinks about someone like Trump playing a preordained role in history. On the surface, this might seem like a somewhat silly part of our discussion, but it actually raises intriguing questions regarding how the mechanics of God intervening in human affairs would actually work.</p><p>Near the end, we get to the part of Ross’s book I’m most skeptical of, which is the alleged evidence for supernatural experience. If prayer is real, why not conduct a double-blind randomized study? I also bring up the <a href="https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1892626641043566651" target="_blank">Randi Prize challenge</a>, which offered $1 million to anyone who could demonstrate supernatural abilities but never had to pay out. I have to confess however that I do find <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/its-nexplicable-a-broken-radio-suddenly-plays-soothing-music-at-just-the-right-time/2018/01/26/ffc4fcc8-d480-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html" target="_blank">the story</a> told by professional skeptic Michael Shermer about how his wife’s old radio started working on their wedding day to be very weird. </p><p>I do sort of love the idea that God is like a writer for a prestige TV drama, and history has all these A and B list characters that He shuffles around in order to move the plot along. The Roman Empire is maybe its own season. World War II was the finale of the one that began as the Industrial Revolution was taking off. Now we’re in the middle of Season 8, and AI, which started out as a minor character in the background, is about to become the main protagonist. The series finale is of course Judgment Day. </p><p>People like Trump and Putin are the main characters, the Starks and the Lannisters, while we lesser mortals are akin to the slaughtered hordes left on the numerous battlefields of the War of the Five Kings. The Hanania subplot is a pretty cool one. Five years ago I was nobody, now I at least have a (very bad) Wikipedia page, and can reach hundreds of thousands or millions of people on a daily basis, leading my fans closer to God or everlasting damnation. I start out as a rightoid, move towards rightist-tinged rationalism, become an influential figure among Elite Human Capital as I disparage the existence of the supernatural. Razib uses the tools of <a href="https://www.razibkhan.com/p/more-than-kin-less-than-kind-jews?r=u0rd&#38;utm_campaign=post" target="_blank">modern science</a> to show I am related to Jesus and his neighbors in ancient Palestine, as the Lord starts speaking to me about how God is actually real, hoping to use (knowing he will use?) my biography and background to bring others into His flock. Ross Douthat convinces me to believe in God, I return to the faith of my ancestors, actually my childhood, and they run a big feature in the <em>New York Times </em>about what happened. All thinking people read it and become convinced God is real, helping us shake free of our cultural decadence and existential anxiety as humanity moves towards a new Golden Age. All thanks to me and this podcast. Oh and you get to live in a state of bliss for all eternity. </p><p>Very seductive! I can see the appeal of this. But as I tell Ross, short of the Lord or one of his angels appearing directly next to me, I have no way of understanding how one would distinguish Him sending me a sign from my own wishful thinking and intoxication with a very cool narrative that gives me an important role to play in a great cosmic story.</p><p>I did not become a Christian while talking to Ross, but I enjoyed his book, and perhaps some other souls will be saved among the listeners of this conversation. I think I will take him up on his suggestion to read <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300259808/?bestFormat=true&#38;k=they%20flew%20carlos%20eire&#38;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k2_1_8&#38;crid=32OHURX3VY0PK&#38;sprefix=they%20fle" target="_blank"><em>They Flew</em></a> and hope to also look into the question of the historical Jesus before long. </p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.richardhanania.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.richardhanania.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Richard Hanania, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Does God Want You to Listen to This Conversation?
Pub date: 2025-02-20

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4f47edb9ab74c5a8ad9cd56af2a9ef5/">Tyler Cowen: The Graduate Student Crisis Destroying Academia</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c4f47edb9ab74c5a8ad9cd56af2a9ef5/&notes=Tyler Cowen: The Graduate Student Crisis Destroying Academia">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Tyler Cowen exposes academia's graduate student crisis and argues for stronger mentorship structures. They argue for greater intellectual humility and stronger mentorship to build a more resilient academic environment.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Tariffs and Trade Policies<br />- 01:21 - Economic Consequences of Tariffs<br />- 03:07 - Canada as a 51st State?<br />- 04:00 - Canada's Defense Spending Debate<br />- 05:41 - Positive Aspects of Hostility<br />- 06:35 - Transitioning to Theoretical Economics<br />- 08:07 - The Role of Tenure<br />- 11:43 - The Academy's Strengths<br />- 13:04 - Problems in Academia<br />- 14:08 - Understanding the Grant System<br />- 15:10 - The Need for Grants<br />- 16:33 - Is the Academic System Broken?<br />- 17:18 - Improving the Academic System<br />- 17:47 - The Role of AI in Academia<br />- 22:39 - Exploring Deep Research<br />- 29:32 - Writing as Thinking<br />- 31:53 - Truth in Worldviews<br />- 33:22 - Patchwork Theory of Reality<br />- 34:11 - Economics and Theories of Everything<br />- 35:07 - Disagreements Among Intelligent People<br />- 37:48 - The Concept of Metarationality<br />- 45:10 - Cultivating Metarationality<br />- 46:55 - Distinction Between Stamina and Grit<br />- 49:03 - Risk-Taking in Academia<br />- 51:28 - Interviewing Style<br />- 56:28 - The Value of Preparation<br />- 1:13:33 - Critiquing Nassim Taleb<br />- 1:18:23 - Public Debates vs. Private Discussions<br />- 1:20:46 - Focus on Money<br />- 1:22:45 - Healthy vs. Unhealthy Ambition<br />- 1:23:49 - Complexity in Theories of Everything<br />- 1:24:39 - The Importance of Mentoring<br />- 1:26:08 - Current Projects and Interests<br />- 1:31:15 - Advice for Students<br />- 1:32:39 - The Future of Networking<br />- 1:32:53 - Closing Thoughts and Reflections<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Tyler’s website: https://tylercowen.com/<br />- Tyler’s blog: https://marginalrevolution.com/<br />- Tyler’s podcast: https://conversationswithtyler.com/<br />- Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World (book): https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Identify-Energizers-Creatives-Winners/dp/1250275814<br />- Join My New Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-KkhOrPN97Mo/">Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal</a> (LS 55 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4f47edb9ab74c5a8ad9cd56af2a9ef5/">Tyler Cowen: The Graduate Student Crisis Destroying Academia</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c4f47edb9ab74c5a8ad9cd56af2a9ef5/&notes=Tyler Cowen: The Graduate Student Crisis Destroying Academia">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/theories-of-everything-with-curt-jaimungal-kKXchH3_GDZ-KkhOrPN97Mo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Tyler Cowen exposes academia's graduate student crisis and argues for stronger mentorship structures. They argue for greater intellectual humility and stronger mentorship to build a more resilient academic environment.<br /><br />- 00:00 - Tariffs and Trade Policies<br />- 01:21 - Economic Consequences of Tariffs<br />- 03:07 - Canada as a 51st State?<br />- 04:00 - Canada's Defense Spending Debate<br />- 05:41 - Positive Aspects of Hostility<br />- 06:35 - Transitioning to Theoretical Economics<br />- 08:07 - The Role of Tenure<br />- 11:43 - The Academy's Strengths<br />- 13:04 - Problems in Academia<br />- 14:08 - Understanding the Grant System<br />- 15:10 - The Need for Grants<br />- 16:33 - Is the Academic System Broken?<br />- 17:18 - Improving the Academic System<br />- 17:47 - The Role of AI in Academia<br />- 22:39 - Exploring Deep Research<br />- 29:32 - Writing as Thinking<br />- 31:53 - Truth in Worldviews<br />- 33:22 - Patchwork Theory of Reality<br />- 34:11 - Economics and Theories of Everything<br />- 35:07 - Disagreements Among Intelligent People<br />- 37:48 - The Concept of Metarationality<br />- 45:10 - Cultivating Metarationality<br />- 46:55 - Distinction Between Stamina and Grit<br />- 49:03 - Risk-Taking in Academia<br />- 51:28 - Interviewing Style<br />- 56:28 - The Value of Preparation<br />- 1:13:33 - Critiquing Nassim Taleb<br />- 1:18:23 - Public Debates vs. Private Discussions<br />- 1:20:46 - Focus on Money<br />- 1:22:45 - Healthy vs. Unhealthy Ambition<br />- 1:23:49 - Complexity in Theories of Everything<br />- 1:24:39 - The Importance of Mentoring<br />- 1:26:08 - Current Projects and Interests<br />- 1:31:15 - Advice for Students<br />- 1:32:39 - The Future of Networking<br />- 1:32:53 - Closing Thoughts and Reflections<br /><br />Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: <a href="https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe">https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe</a><br /><br />RESOURCES:<br /><br />- Tyler’s website: https://tylercowen.com/<br />- Tyler’s blog: https://marginalrevolution.com/<br />- Tyler’s podcast: https://conversationswithtyler.com/<br />- Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World (book): https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Identify-Energizers-Creatives-Winners/dp/1250275814<br />- Join My New Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com<br />- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE<br />- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join<br />- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal<br />- Crypto: <a href="https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE">https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE</a><br />- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt<br />- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

<p>Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Theories of Everything, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Tyler Cowen: The Graduate Student Crisis Destroying Academia
Pub date: 2025-02-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4f47edb9ab74c5a8ad9cd56af2a9ef5/

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/johnathan-bi-insights-from-the-great-books-MR0n6XvON8Y/">Johnathan Bi</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/024b45ef597b4e90b3e49ea1ab237ca8/">How to Prepare for the AI Age: US-China, War, Job Loss | Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/024b45ef597b4e90b3e49ea1ab237ca8/&notes=How to Prepare for the AI Age: US-China, War, Job Loss | Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/johnathan-bi-insights-from-the-great-books-P0LpBmK2sVJ-MR0n6XvON8Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I made this video as a fellow of the Cosmos Institute, a 501c3 academy for philosopher-builders.</p><p>* Read the Cosmos Institute Substack ► https://bit.ly/3XK5T7k</p><p>* Subscribe to the Cosmos Institute on YouTube ► @cosmosinstituteaixhf</p><p>* Follow Cosmos’ founder and my friend Brendan McCord on X ► https://bit.ly/3Y9pFLb</p><p>You can read the full transcript here: <a href="https://www.johnathanbi.com/p/transcript-for-interview-with-tyler-cowen-on-ai" target="_blank">https://www.johnathanbi.com/p/transcript-for-interview-with-tyler-cowen-on-ai</a></p> <br /><br />Get full access to Johnathan Bi at <a href="https://www.johnathanbi.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.johnathanbi.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Insights from the Great Books, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/johnathan-bi-insights-from-the-great-books-MR0n6XvON8Y/">Johnathan Bi</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/024b45ef597b4e90b3e49ea1ab237ca8/">How to Prepare for the AI Age: US-China, War, Job Loss | Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2025-02-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/024b45ef597b4e90b3e49ea1ab237ca8/&notes=How to Prepare for the AI Age: US-China, War, Job Loss | Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/johnathan-bi-insights-from-the-great-books-P0LpBmK2sVJ-MR0n6XvON8Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I made this video as a fellow of the Cosmos Institute, a 501c3 academy for philosopher-builders.</p><p>* Read the Cosmos Institute Substack ► https://bit.ly/3XK5T7k</p><p>* Subscribe to the Cosmos Institute on YouTube ► @cosmosinstituteaixhf</p><p>* Follow Cosmos’ founder and my friend Brendan McCord on X ► https://bit.ly/3Y9pFLb</p><p>You can read the full transcript here: <a href="https://www.johnathanbi.com/p/transcript-for-interview-with-tyler-cowen-on-ai" target="_blank">https://www.johnathanbi.com/p/transcript-for-interview-with-tyler-cowen-on-ai</a></p> <br /><br />Get full access to Johnathan Bi at <a href="https://www.johnathanbi.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.johnathanbi.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Insights from the Great Books, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Johnathan Bi
Episode: How to Prepare for the AI Age: US-China, War, Job Loss | Tyler Cowen
Pub date: 2025-02-17

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/024b45ef597b4e90b3e49ea1ab237ca8/

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/housingwire-daily-housingwire-cV5Kni8TFg1/">HousingWire Daily </a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/408d583263f44316b68694e8f87a9dc7/">What's happening in the secondary market?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/408d583263f44316b68694e8f87a9dc7/&notes=What's happening in the secondary market?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/housingwire-daily-housingwire-Nt3zio16Vbd-cV5Kni8TFg1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Mortgage Reporter Bill Conroy about the latest happenings in the secondary market. From home-equity investment pioneer Unison jumping into the secondary market to mortgage servicing rights being in high demand right now, Conroy breaks down the current market appetite for these topics and what this means for the housing industry. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/housingwire-daily-housingwire-cV5Kni8TFg1/">HousingWire Daily </a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/408d583263f44316b68694e8f87a9dc7/">What's happening in the secondary market?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/408d583263f44316b68694e8f87a9dc7/&notes=What's happening in the secondary market?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/housingwire-daily-housingwire-Nt3zio16Vbd-cV5Kni8TFg1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Mortgage Reporter Bill Conroy about the latest happenings in the secondary market. From home-equity investment pioneer Unison jumping into the secondary market to mortgage servicing rights being in high demand right now, Conroy breaks down the current market appetite for these topics and what this means for the housing industry. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: HousingWire Daily 
Episode: What's happening in the secondary market?
Pub date: 2022-02-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/408d583263f44316b68694e8f87a9dc7/

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            <author>HousingWire</author>



            
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            <title>156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/that-annuity-show-nassau-financial-group-k6leNjItuJC/">That Annuity Show</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/10a8c1aee5554c63a075b0093f54c381/">156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-07-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/10a8c1aee5554c63a075b0093f54c381/&notes=156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/that-annuity-show-nassau-financial-group-6TgpNKzlCSD-k6leNjItuJC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>A home is typically one of the largest individual assets we must include in a retirement plan. However, it's also one of the most illiquid ones. We've had several episodes exploring the role of home equity loans in solving the problem. Today, we look at a second option - selling part of the equity in your house to a third party. David Shapiro, Founder and CEO of EquiFi Corporation explains the new product and the benefits it potentially offers. Also, do you want to get regular updates on news about guests of our show? Go to https://thatannuityshow.com and subscribe to our newsletter. We hope you enjoy the show. Links mentioned: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dshapiro1/ https://www.equifi.com/<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nassau Financial Group, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/that-annuity-show-nassau-financial-group-k6leNjItuJC/">That Annuity Show</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/10a8c1aee5554c63a075b0093f54c381/">156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-07-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/10a8c1aee5554c63a075b0093f54c381/&notes=156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/that-annuity-show-nassau-financial-group-6TgpNKzlCSD-k6leNjItuJC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>A home is typically one of the largest individual assets we must include in a retirement plan. However, it's also one of the most illiquid ones. We've had several episodes exploring the role of home equity loans in solving the problem. Today, we look at a second option - selling part of the equity in your house to a third party. David Shapiro, Founder and CEO of EquiFi Corporation explains the new product and the benefits it potentially offers. Also, do you want to get regular updates on news about guests of our show? Go to https://thatannuityshow.com and subscribe to our newsletter. We hope you enjoy the show. Links mentioned: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dshapiro1/ https://www.equifi.com/<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nassau Financial Group, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: That Annuity Show
Episode: 156 - Selling Equity As New Way To Access The Value of Your Home In Retirement With David Shapiro
Pub date: 2022-07-15

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/10a8c1aee5554c63a075b0093f54c381/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 06:27:26 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Nassau Financial Group</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:40:40</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Nassau Financial Group</itunes:author>
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            <title>Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-6gSnXeV1aHv/">Power House</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb38095c0c6c458da500ef8889b94ea1/">Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-01-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cb38095c0c6c458da500ef8889b94ea1/&notes=Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-qSZQzMPCvoU-6gSnXeV1aHv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week, Thomas Sponholtz, the CEO and chairman at Union Home Ownership Investors, discusses his industry origin story, as well as his determination to bring housing innovation to the United States. </p><p>Additionally, Sponholtz touches base on new QM lending rules and the housing sector's emergence of alternative homeownership models, which he says will be needed to better service homebuyers. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-6gSnXeV1aHv/">Power House</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb38095c0c6c458da500ef8889b94ea1/">Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-01-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cb38095c0c6c458da500ef8889b94ea1/&notes=Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-qSZQzMPCvoU-6gSnXeV1aHv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week, Thomas Sponholtz, the CEO and chairman at Union Home Ownership Investors, discusses his industry origin story, as well as his determination to bring housing innovation to the United States. </p><p>Additionally, Sponholtz touches base on new QM lending rules and the housing sector's emergence of alternative homeownership models, which he says will be needed to better service homebuyers. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Power House
Episode: Unison’s Thomas Sponholtz on alternative homeownership models, QM lending, and co-investing
Pub date: 2020-01-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb38095c0c6c458da500ef8889b94ea1/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 06:24:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>HousingWire</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:45:22</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-impact-jason-pereira-zOMIqweZLi0/">Fintech Impact</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6/">Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6/&notes=Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-impact-jason-pereira-nmqDu-18h35-zOMIqweZLi0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this 164th episode of Fintech Impact, Jason Pereira, award-winning financial planner, university lecturer, writer, and host interviews Thomas Sponholtz, CEO of Unison, a company that enables equity financing of residential real estate and gives institutional investors access to the world’s largest asset class!</p><br /><p>Episode Highlights:</p><ul><li>0:33 – Thomas Sponholtz introduces Unison.</li><li>3:16 – What was the impedance for the creation of Unison?</li><li>6:06 – Thomas explains the consumer experience when working with Unison.</li><li>7:37 – To what degree is Unison participating in the change in the value of the house?</li><li>8:44 – What happens if the homeowner sells the property at a loss?</li><li>9:36 – How long do these deals take to get closed?</li><li>11:10 – Thomas discusses the return expectations by investors.</li><li>13:24 – How much attention is paid to regional diversification?</li><li>16:00 – Jason and Thomas discuss the potential risk for residential homeowners.</li><li>19:28 – Thomas discusses Unison’s goal of giving people the experience of having a home without the financial commitment of owning.</li><li>20:25 – What kind of feedback has Unison gotten back from its clients?</li><li>23:28 – If Thomas could change something about his company and his industry, what would he change?</li><li>26:09 – What has been the biggest challenge in getting Unison to where it is today?</li><li>27:24 – Thomas shares the motivations that get him up every morning.</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>3 Key Points</p><ol><li>Unison introduced equity financing to residential homeowners while also enabling institutional investors to get access to the world’s largest asset class.</li><li>By bearing a high percentage of risk than the homeowner, Unison bears a disproportionate percentage of both gains and losses.</li><li>Investing in a single home brings as much volatility as investing in the stock market while diversifying your portfolio with thousands of properties across the country can lower volatility from 15% to 5%.</li></ol><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Tweetable Quotes:</p><ul><li>“When you retire, your biggest expense is most likely to be housing but you could not invest in housing as an asset class as an institution.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“Theoretically, this could be closed in a week, in practice because of that coordination between the homeowner and appraiser, it typically takes about 2 or 3 weeks.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“To date, the only option for investment in residential real estate has largely been residential REITs, in which case you’re dealing with a renter environment, not an ownership environment.” – Jason Pereira</li><li>“A single home has the same volatility as the stock market.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“Communicating directly to the consumer is a lot easier sometimes than through an intermediary.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jason.pereira" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> – Jason Pereira’s Facebook</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pereirajm?trk=org-employees_mini-profile_title" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> – Jason Pereira’s LinkedIn</li><li><a href="https://www.fintechimpact.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FintechImpact.co</a> – Website for Fintech Impact</li><li><a href="https://jasonpereira.ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JasonPereira.ca</a> – Sign up for Jason Pereira’s newsletter</li><li><a href="https://www.woodgate.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Woodgate.com</a> – Website for Woodgate Financial</li><li><a href="https://www.unison.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unison.com</a> – Website for Unison</li></ul><p><br /></p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jason Pereira, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-impact-jason-pereira-zOMIqweZLi0/">Fintech Impact</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6/">Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6/&notes=Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-impact-jason-pereira-nmqDu-18h35-zOMIqweZLi0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this 164th episode of Fintech Impact, Jason Pereira, award-winning financial planner, university lecturer, writer, and host interviews Thomas Sponholtz, CEO of Unison, a company that enables equity financing of residential real estate and gives institutional investors access to the world’s largest asset class!</p><br /><p>Episode Highlights:</p><ul><li>0:33 – Thomas Sponholtz introduces Unison.</li><li>3:16 – What was the impedance for the creation of Unison?</li><li>6:06 – Thomas explains the consumer experience when working with Unison.</li><li>7:37 – To what degree is Unison participating in the change in the value of the house?</li><li>8:44 – What happens if the homeowner sells the property at a loss?</li><li>9:36 – How long do these deals take to get closed?</li><li>11:10 – Thomas discusses the return expectations by investors.</li><li>13:24 – How much attention is paid to regional diversification?</li><li>16:00 – Jason and Thomas discuss the potential risk for residential homeowners.</li><li>19:28 – Thomas discusses Unison’s goal of giving people the experience of having a home without the financial commitment of owning.</li><li>20:25 – What kind of feedback has Unison gotten back from its clients?</li><li>23:28 – If Thomas could change something about his company and his industry, what would he change?</li><li>26:09 – What has been the biggest challenge in getting Unison to where it is today?</li><li>27:24 – Thomas shares the motivations that get him up every morning.</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>3 Key Points</p><ol><li>Unison introduced equity financing to residential homeowners while also enabling institutional investors to get access to the world’s largest asset class.</li><li>By bearing a high percentage of risk than the homeowner, Unison bears a disproportionate percentage of both gains and losses.</li><li>Investing in a single home brings as much volatility as investing in the stock market while diversifying your portfolio with thousands of properties across the country can lower volatility from 15% to 5%.</li></ol><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Tweetable Quotes:</p><ul><li>“When you retire, your biggest expense is most likely to be housing but you could not invest in housing as an asset class as an institution.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“Theoretically, this could be closed in a week, in practice because of that coordination between the homeowner and appraiser, it typically takes about 2 or 3 weeks.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“To date, the only option for investment in residential real estate has largely been residential REITs, in which case you’re dealing with a renter environment, not an ownership environment.” – Jason Pereira</li><li>“A single home has the same volatility as the stock market.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li><li>“Communicating directly to the consumer is a lot easier sometimes than through an intermediary.” – Thomas Sponholtz</li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jason.pereira" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> – Jason Pereira’s Facebook</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pereirajm?trk=org-employees_mini-profile_title" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> – Jason Pereira’s LinkedIn</li><li><a href="https://www.fintechimpact.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FintechImpact.co</a> – Website for Fintech Impact</li><li><a href="https://jasonpereira.ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">JasonPereira.ca</a> – Sign up for Jason Pereira’s newsletter</li><li><a href="https://www.woodgate.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Woodgate.com</a> – Website for Woodgate Financial</li><li><a href="https://www.unison.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Unison.com</a> – Website for Unison</li></ul><p><br /></p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. 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Podcast: Fintech Impact
Episode: Unison with Thomas Sponholtz | E164
Pub date: 2021-03-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f37480d3d3ed4c63a57d59afe755e3b6/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 06:24:31 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Jason Pereira</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:29:42</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Jason Pereira</itunes:author>
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            <title>Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-uEcUVbCfQy3/">Bank On It</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c760f1e0d52d4839839f84f54fb981e8/">Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c760f1e0d52d4839839f84f54fb981e8/&notes=Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-bBIg5O2YzX3-uEcUVbCfQy3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This episode was produced remotely using the ListenDeck standardized audio production system.  If you're looking to upgrade or jumpstart your podcast production please visit</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.listendeck.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span></p> <p class="graf graf--p">You can subscribe to my podcast and stay up to date on all the stories here on <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Google Play</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Stitcher</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Amazon</a> and <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-bank-on-it-27628686/" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">iHeartRadio</a>.</p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode the host</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">John Siracusa</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">chats remotely with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-sponholtz/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Thomas Sponholtz</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Co-founder & CEO of</span> <a href="https://www.unison.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unison</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Unison is a provider of home-ownership investments used for long-term financing.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tune in and Listen.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Subscribe now on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spotify</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a class="ej hn" href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener nofollow">Amazon</a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="http://www.iheart.com/show/263-BANK-ON-IT/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">iHeartRadio</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">to hear next Tuesdays interview with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danraju/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dan Raju</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">from</span> <a href="https://tradier.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tradier</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">About the host:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">John, is the host of the  '</span><a href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bank On It</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">' podcast recorded onsite in Wall Street at</span> <a href="http://www.openfin.co/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">OpenFin</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="http://www.milliondollarstartuppodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Million Dollar Startup</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, a fully remote, high quality pitch competition podcast.   He's also the founder of the remotely recorded, studio quality standardized audio production system</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow John on</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/twitter.com/johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Twitter</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://medium.com/@johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Medium</span></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Siracusa, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-uEcUVbCfQy3/">Bank On It</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c760f1e0d52d4839839f84f54fb981e8/">Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c760f1e0d52d4839839f84f54fb981e8/&notes=Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-bBIg5O2YzX3-uEcUVbCfQy3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This episode was produced remotely using the ListenDeck standardized audio production system.  If you're looking to upgrade or jumpstart your podcast production please visit</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.listendeck.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span></p> <p class="graf graf--p">You can subscribe to my podcast and stay up to date on all the stories here on <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Google Play</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Stitcher</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Amazon</a> and <a class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-bank-on-it-27628686/" rel="noopener nofollow noopener" target="_blank">iHeartRadio</a>.</p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode the host</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">John Siracusa</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">chats remotely with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-sponholtz/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Thomas Sponholtz</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Co-founder & CEO of</span> <a href="https://www.unison.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unison</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Unison is a provider of home-ownership investments used for long-term financing.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tune in and Listen.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Subscribe now on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spotify</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a class="ej hn" href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noopener nofollow">Amazon</a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="http://www.iheart.com/show/263-BANK-ON-IT/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">iHeartRadio</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">to hear next Tuesdays interview with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danraju/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dan Raju</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">from</span> <a href="https://tradier.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tradier</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">About the host:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">John, is the host of the  '</span><a href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bank On It</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">' podcast recorded onsite in Wall Street at</span> <a href="http://www.openfin.co/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">OpenFin</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="http://www.milliondollarstartuppodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Million Dollar Startup</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, a fully remote, high quality pitch competition podcast.   He's also the founder of the remotely recorded, studio quality standardized audio production system</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow John on</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/twitter.com/johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Twitter</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://medium.com/@johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Medium</span></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Siracusa, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Bank On It
Episode: Episode 408 Thomas Sponholtz from Unison
Pub date: 2021-04-29

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c760f1e0d52d4839839f84f54fb981e8/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Siracusa, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-uEcUVbCfQy3/">Bank On It</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ee35f8e911af45b5aee4bfd06fe14b12/">Episode 495 Eddie Lim from Point</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ee35f8e911af45b5aee4bfd06fe14b12/&notes=Episode 495 Eddie Lim from Point">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-bBIg5O2YzX3-uEcUVbCfQy3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This episode was produced remotely using the</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">standardized audio & video production system. If you're looking to jumpstart your podcast miniseries or upgrade your podcast or video production please visit</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com./"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.ListenDeck.com.</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can subscribe to this podcast and stay up to date on all the stories here on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google Play</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spotify</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Amazon</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-bank-on-it-27628686/"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> iHeartRadio</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode the host</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">John Siracusa</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">chats remotely with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-lim/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie Lim</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, co-founder & CEO of</span> <a href="http://www.point.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Point</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Point provides shared home equity financing, shared equity, HELOC alternative to existing homeowners and new homebuyers.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tune in and Listen.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Subscribe now on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spotify</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Amazon</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="http://www.iheart.com/show/263-BANK-ON-IT/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">iHeartRadio</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">to hear Thursdays episode with</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamnash/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Adam Nash</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">from</span> <a href="https://daffy.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Daffy</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">About the host:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">John, is the host of the  '</span><a href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bank On It</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">' podcast recorded onsite in Wall Street at</span> <a href="http://www.openfin.co/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">OpenFin</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and the founder of the remotely recorded, studio quality standardized podcast production system</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow John on</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://bankonitpodcast.com/twitter.com/johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Twitter</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://medium.com/@johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Medium</span></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Siracusa, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-uEcUVbCfQy3/">Bank On It</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ee35f8e911af45b5aee4bfd06fe14b12/">Episode 495 Eddie Lim from Point</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ee35f8e911af45b5aee4bfd06fe14b12/&notes=Episode 495 Eddie Lim from Point">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bank-on-it-john-siracusa-bBIg5O2YzX3-uEcUVbCfQy3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This episode was produced remotely using the</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">standardized audio & video production system. If you're looking to jumpstart your podcast miniseries or upgrade your podcast or video production please visit</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com./"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.ListenDeck.com.</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can subscribe to this podcast and stay up to date on all the stories here on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google Play</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spotify</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bank-On-It/dp/B08JJTXW4G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bank+on+it+podcast&amp;qid=1619791531&amp;s=audible&amp;sr=1-1"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Amazon</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span> <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-bank-on-it-27628686/"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> iHeartRadio</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode the host</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">John Siracusa</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">chats remotely with</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-lim/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Eddie Lim</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, co-founder & CEO of</span> <a href="http://www.point.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Point</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Point provides shared home equity financing, shared equity, HELOC alternative to existing homeowners and new homebuyers.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tune in and Listen.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Subscribe now on</span> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/bank-on-it/id970720499?mt=2"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Il2u7bl3fqr63ammwshdjq7b4qa?t=Bank_On_It&amp;lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_pulse_read%3B1t7yIqHhTK6FwaFh51sSQw%3D%3D"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Google</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bank-on-it"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Stitcher</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1oscooBd3j4Ty9Tih85cLj"><span 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href="http://bankonitpodcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bank On It</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">' podcast recorded onsite in Wall Street at</span> <a href="http://www.openfin.co/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">OpenFin</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">and the founder of the remotely recorded, studio quality standardized podcast production system</span> <a href="http://www.listendeck.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">ListenDeck</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow John on</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/siracusa/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://bankonitpodcast.com/twitter.com/johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Twitter</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">,</span> <a href="https://medium.com/@johnsiracusa"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Medium</span></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast 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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-hustle-startup-hustle-5KtRMmeD_L8/">Startup Hustle</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/56bfaa86e817415cada7381ecff810ce/">Building a Home Equity Loan Alternative</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/56bfaa86e817415cada7381ecff810ce/&notes=Building a Home Equity Loan Alternative">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-hustle-startup-hustle-4ZKd39cbDw8-5KtRMmeD_L8.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p dir="ltr">Join Matt Watson and Eoin Matthews, CoFounder, and Chief Business Officer of Point, as they talk about home equity investing. Gain new perspectives by listening to Eoins' entrepreneurial story and hear how he and his CoFounder built a business involving home equity investments.</p>
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<p>Find Startup Hustle Everywhere:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://gigb.co/l/YEh5">https://gigb.co/l/YEh5</a></p>
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<p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Full Scale:</p>
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<p dir="ltr">Learn more about Point:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://point.com/">https://point.com</a></p>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-hustle-startup-hustle-5KtRMmeD_L8/">Startup Hustle</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/56bfaa86e817415cada7381ecff810ce/">Building a Home Equity Loan Alternative</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/56bfaa86e817415cada7381ecff810ce/&notes=Building a Home Equity Loan Alternative">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-hustle-startup-hustle-4ZKd39cbDw8-5KtRMmeD_L8.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p dir="ltr">Join Matt Watson and Eoin Matthews, CoFounder, and Chief Business Officer of Point, as they talk about home equity investing. Gain new perspectives by listening to Eoins' entrepreneurial story and hear how he and his CoFounder built a business involving home equity investments.</p>
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<p>Find Startup Hustle Everywhere:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://gigb.co/l/YEh5">https://gigb.co/l/YEh5</a></p>
<p dir="ltr"> </p>
<p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Full Scale:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://fullscale.io/">https://fullscale.io</a></p>
<p dir="ltr"> </p>
<p dir="ltr">Learn more about Point:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://point.com/">https://point.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr"> </p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Startup Hustle, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Building a Home Equity Loan Alternative
Pub date: 2023-03-15

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/56bfaa86e817415cada7381ecff810ce/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 06:23:37 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Stop being House Rich &amp; Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-confidential-dd3-media-FvuIMWjmz-a/">Fintech Confidential</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/423c14d578bf48f7b4f2bd68c81d94f8/">Stop being House Rich & Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/423c14d578bf48f7b4f2bd68c81d94f8/&notes=Stop being House Rich & Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-confidential-diamond-d3-media-RUI0itwh4jd-FvuIMWjmz-a.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jeffery Glass is the CEO and Founder of HomeTap, the groundbreaking company revolutionizing the way homeowners access their home equity. In this episode of Fintech Confidential, Glass reveals the secrets to success in the real estate market and shares invaluable advice for entrepreneurs.</p><p><strong>Three important items Covered:</strong></p><p>1️⃣ Discover the game-changing alternative to traditional loans that homeowners are raving about.</p><p>2️⃣ Uncover the shocking impact of rising interest rates and inflation on the residential real estate market.</p><p>3️⃣ Learn the essential steps to building a strong team and finding the right capital partner for your entrepreneurial journey.</p><h2><a href="https://youtu.be/frJ-wfHV4l0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Also, watch the entire episode on YouTube.</a> </h2><h2>Links:</h2><p><strong><u>Hometap</u></strong></p><p>Website: https://www.hometap.com/	</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hometap-equity-partners	</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HometapEquity/	</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hometap_/</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/hometap	</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOS30gqJ9HVS3cCbH_M4LxA</p><p><strong><u>Fintech Confidential </u></strong></p><p>YouTube: https://fintechconfidential.com/watch  </p><p>Podcast: https://fintechconfidential.com/listen </p><p>Notifications: https://fintechconfidential.com/access</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintechconfidential</p><p>X: https://twitter.com/FTconfidential </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fintechconfidential </p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fintechconfidential</p><p><strong>Supporters</strong></p><p>Supporters</p><p><strong>Support provided by Skyflow. </strong></p><p>What if privacy had an API? </p><p>What if you could ensure data privacy, governance, and compliance with just a few API calls?</p><p>What if you could worry less about PCI requirements while actually improving privacy and security?</p><p>With sky flow, you can visit <a href="https://skyflowsecure.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">skyflowsecure.com</a> today to learn how.</p><p><strong>Support provided by Chargebacks911. </strong></p><p>What are Chargebacks&nbsp;REALLY&nbsp;Costing You? </p><p>They don't need to be a cost of doing business!  You can be set up in just 48 hours to resolve up to 40 percent of chargebacks before they're ever filed.</p><p>It's fast, easy, and effective. </p><p>Get started at <a href="https://cb911.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cb911.info</a> </p><h2><u>Time Stamps:</u></h2><p><strong>The mission of HomeTap</strong> [00:00:00]</p><p>Unlocking the secrets of homeownership and crushing traditional loans!</p><p><strong>The origin story of HomeTap</strong> [00:02:33]</p><p>How Jeff Glass turned personal experiences into a game-changing financial solution!</p><p><strong>HomeTap's mission to change homeownership financing</strong> [00:08:40]</p><p>Making homeownership a breeze for cash-strapped homeowners!</p><p><strong>The importance of homeowner experience</strong> [00:12:27]</p><p>Creating a homeowner experience that will blow your mind!</p><p><strong>Ensuring transparency and clarity for homeowners </strong>[00:14:08]</p><p>No more confusing financial jargon - HomeTap keeps it simple!</p><p><strong>Providing capital for homeowner needs and opportunities </strong>[00:15:56]</p><p>Get the cash you need for life's challenges and dreams!</p><p><strong>Home equity and target demographic</strong> [00:24:05]</p><p>HomeTap's got your back if you're sitting on a goldmine!</p><p><strong>Tailoring services and marketing </strong>[00:26:51]</p><p>Home renovations made easy with HomeTap's tailored services!</p><p><strong>Resilience and market trends </strong>[00:32:13]</p><p>Why residential real estate is the ultimate investment!</p><p><strong>The impact of rising interest rates on housing</strong> [00:35:23]</p><p>Rising interest rates are killing the housing game - find out how!</p><p><strong>Future goals and plans for HomeTap </strong>[00:40:51]</p><p>HomeTap's big dreams of becoming a national sensation!</p><p><strong>Competition and defenseability in the industry </strong>[00:45:06]</p><p>How HomeTap stays ahead of the game in a cutthroat industry!</p><p><strong>The importance of passion and dedication in entrepreneurship </strong>[00:48:36]</p><p>Starting a business ain't for the weak - Jeff Glass spills the tea!</p><p><strong>Challenges and considerations of being an entrepreneur</strong> [00:50:18]</p><p>Think you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur? Think again!</p><p><strong>Optimizing for success over ownership </strong>[00:53:51]</p><p>Why success trumps ownership in the world of entrepreneurship!</p><h2 class="ql-align-center">This is a Production of Diamond D3, Media </h2><h2>ABOUT: </h2><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Jeffery Glass:</u></strong><u> </u></p><p>Entrepreneurship has been a passion for Jeff since his teenage years. By age 22, he started two college marketing businesses that helped pay off some of his college loans.  Over the next two decades Jeff ran 4 other successful businesses and learned a ton about what it takes to start, build and grow technology and data-driven companies in this ultra-competitive world. He’s also been in the investor’s seat, spending 6 years as an MD at Bain Capital Ventures. </p><p>Jeff is currently the co-founder and CEO of Hometap, a data-driven residential real estate platform that is changing home ownership financing. Hometap invests in residential properties, making passive investments alongside homeowners, and participates in the future value of the home. For homeowners, this is a simplified, sensible alternative to debt and monthly payments that allow them to pay off bills, build their savings, and fund the things that come up in life. For investors, this is a new asset class, allowing them to participate in the multi-trillion-dollar residential real estate market without the operational and management hassles of owning and operating homes.</p><p>Jeff lives in Brookline, MA with wife and three children. He is a graduate of Amherst College and Harvard Business School.  </p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Hometap :</u></strong><u> </u></p><p>Hometap is a smart loan alternative that allows homeowners to access their home equity to do more in life without taking on debt. An investor, not a lender, Hometap gives homeowners cash in exchange for a share of their home's future value. They can use the money for anything they'd like, from paying off credit card debt to starting a business or buying a second home, without the hassle of monthly payments or interest. When the homeowner settles the investment at or before the end of the 10-year effective period, Hometap receives an agreed-upon percentage of the sale price or current appraised value. </p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Tedd Huff:</u></strong> </p><p>Tedd Huff is the Co-Founder of Voalyre and the President and founder of Diamond D3, a professional services consulting firm focused on global payments and marketing. He is also a video podcast host and producer of Fintech Confidential.</p><p>Over the past 24 years, he has contributed to FinTech startups as an Advisory Board Member, Co-Founder, and Chief Experience Officer, providing strategic and tactical direction for Global Payments OpenEdge, Heartland Payments, Nuvei, and TSYS, among others, focusing on growth while delivering innovation, process improvements and user experience-driven value to simplify the complexity of payments.</p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Diamond D3, Media:</u> </strong></p><p>DD3 Media is a media creation, management, and production company that delivers engaging content globally</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from DD3, Media, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-confidential-dd3-media-FvuIMWjmz-a/">Fintech Confidential</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/423c14d578bf48f7b4f2bd68c81d94f8/">Stop being House Rich & Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/423c14d578bf48f7b4f2bd68c81d94f8/&notes=Stop being House Rich & Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fintech-confidential-diamond-d3-media-RUI0itwh4jd-FvuIMWjmz-a.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jeffery Glass is the CEO and Founder of HomeTap, the groundbreaking company revolutionizing the way homeowners access their home equity. In this episode of Fintech Confidential, Glass reveals the secrets to success in the real estate market and shares invaluable advice for entrepreneurs.</p><p><strong>Three important items Covered:</strong></p><p>1️⃣ Discover the game-changing alternative to traditional loans that homeowners are raving about.</p><p>2️⃣ Uncover the shocking impact of rising interest rates and inflation on the residential real estate market.</p><p>3️⃣ Learn the essential steps to building a strong team and finding the right capital partner for your entrepreneurial journey.</p><h2><a href="https://youtu.be/frJ-wfHV4l0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Also, watch the entire episode on YouTube.</a> </h2><h2>Links:</h2><p><strong><u>Hometap</u></strong></p><p>Website: https://www.hometap.com/	</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hometap-equity-partners	</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HometapEquity/	</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hometap_/</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/hometap	</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOS30gqJ9HVS3cCbH_M4LxA</p><p><strong><u>Fintech Confidential </u></strong></p><p>YouTube: https://fintechconfidential.com/watch  </p><p>Podcast: https://fintechconfidential.com/listen </p><p>Notifications: https://fintechconfidential.com/access</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fintechconfidential</p><p>X: https://twitter.com/FTconfidential </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fintechconfidential </p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fintechconfidential</p><p><strong>Supporters</strong></p><p>Supporters</p><p><strong>Support provided by Skyflow. </strong></p><p>What if privacy had an API? </p><p>What if you could ensure data privacy, governance, and compliance with just a few API calls?</p><p>What if you could worry less about PCI requirements while actually improving privacy and security?</p><p>With sky flow, you can visit <a href="https://skyflowsecure.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">skyflowsecure.com</a> today to learn how.</p><p><strong>Support provided by Chargebacks911. </strong></p><p>What are Chargebacks&nbsp;REALLY&nbsp;Costing You? </p><p>They don't need to be a cost of doing business!  You can be set up in just 48 hours to resolve up to 40 percent of chargebacks before they're ever filed.</p><p>It's fast, easy, and effective. </p><p>Get started at <a href="https://cb911.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cb911.info</a> </p><h2><u>Time Stamps:</u></h2><p><strong>The mission of HomeTap</strong> [00:00:00]</p><p>Unlocking the secrets of homeownership and crushing traditional loans!</p><p><strong>The origin story of HomeTap</strong> [00:02:33]</p><p>How Jeff Glass turned personal experiences into a game-changing financial solution!</p><p><strong>HomeTap's mission to change homeownership financing</strong> [00:08:40]</p><p>Making homeownership a breeze for cash-strapped homeowners!</p><p><strong>The importance of homeowner experience</strong> [00:12:27]</p><p>Creating a homeowner experience that will blow your mind!</p><p><strong>Ensuring transparency and clarity for homeowners </strong>[00:14:08]</p><p>No more confusing financial jargon - HomeTap keeps it simple!</p><p><strong>Providing capital for homeowner needs and opportunities </strong>[00:15:56]</p><p>Get the cash you need for life's challenges and dreams!</p><p><strong>Home equity and target demographic</strong> [00:24:05]</p><p>HomeTap's got your back if you're sitting on a goldmine!</p><p><strong>Tailoring services and marketing </strong>[00:26:51]</p><p>Home renovations made easy with HomeTap's tailored services!</p><p><strong>Resilience and market trends </strong>[00:32:13]</p><p>Why residential real estate is the ultimate investment!</p><p><strong>The impact of rising interest rates on housing</strong> [00:35:23]</p><p>Rising interest rates are killing the housing game - find out how!</p><p><strong>Future goals and plans for HomeTap </strong>[00:40:51]</p><p>HomeTap's big dreams of becoming a national sensation!</p><p><strong>Competition and defenseability in the industry </strong>[00:45:06]</p><p>How HomeTap stays ahead of the game in a cutthroat industry!</p><p><strong>The importance of passion and dedication in entrepreneurship </strong>[00:48:36]</p><p>Starting a business ain't for the weak - Jeff Glass spills the tea!</p><p><strong>Challenges and considerations of being an entrepreneur</strong> [00:50:18]</p><p>Think you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur? Think again!</p><p><strong>Optimizing for success over ownership </strong>[00:53:51]</p><p>Why success trumps ownership in the world of entrepreneurship!</p><h2 class="ql-align-center">This is a Production of Diamond D3, Media </h2><h2>ABOUT: </h2><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Jeffery Glass:</u></strong><u> </u></p><p>Entrepreneurship has been a passion for Jeff since his teenage years. By age 22, he started two college marketing businesses that helped pay off some of his college loans.  Over the next two decades Jeff ran 4 other successful businesses and learned a ton about what it takes to start, build and grow technology and data-driven companies in this ultra-competitive world. He’s also been in the investor’s seat, spending 6 years as an MD at Bain Capital Ventures. </p><p>Jeff is currently the co-founder and CEO of Hometap, a data-driven residential real estate platform that is changing home ownership financing. Hometap invests in residential properties, making passive investments alongside homeowners, and participates in the future value of the home. For homeowners, this is a simplified, sensible alternative to debt and monthly payments that allow them to pay off bills, build their savings, and fund the things that come up in life. For investors, this is a new asset class, allowing them to participate in the multi-trillion-dollar residential real estate market without the operational and management hassles of owning and operating homes.</p><p>Jeff lives in Brookline, MA with wife and three children. He is a graduate of Amherst College and Harvard Business School.  </p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Hometap :</u></strong><u> </u></p><p>Hometap is a smart loan alternative that allows homeowners to access their home equity to do more in life without taking on debt. An investor, not a lender, Hometap gives homeowners cash in exchange for a share of their home's future value. They can use the money for anything they'd like, from paying off credit card debt to starting a business or buying a second home, without the hassle of monthly payments or interest. When the homeowner settles the investment at or before the end of the 10-year effective period, Hometap receives an agreed-upon percentage of the sale price or current appraised value. </p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Tedd Huff:</u></strong> </p><p>Tedd Huff is the Co-Founder of Voalyre and the President and founder of Diamond D3, a professional services consulting firm focused on global payments and marketing. He is also a video podcast host and producer of Fintech Confidential.</p><p>Over the past 24 years, he has contributed to FinTech startups as an Advisory Board Member, Co-Founder, and Chief Experience Officer, providing strategic and tactical direction for Global Payments OpenEdge, Heartland Payments, Nuvei, and TSYS, among others, focusing on growth while delivering innovation, process improvements and user experience-driven value to simplify the complexity of payments.</p><p><strong class="ql-size-large"><u>Diamond D3, Media:</u> </strong></p><p>DD3 Media is a media creation, management, and production company that delivers engaging content globally</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from DD3, Media, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Stop being House Rich & Cash Poor: Tap into home Equity without Tapping Out with the CEO of Hometap
Pub date: 2023-10-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/423c14d578bf48f7b4f2bd68c81d94f8/

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chrisman-commentary-daily-mortgage-news-KbvhZXnac6G/">Chrisman Commentary - Daily Mortgage News</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8af9b3b8e2f4dc5a11dac6dd2bdc60e/">12.21.23 Lending's Winter Solstice; Hometap's Dan Burnett on Home Equity; More Housing Metrics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f8af9b3b8e2f4dc5a11dac6dd2bdc60e/&notes=12.21.23 Lending's Winter Solstice; Hometap's Dan Burnett on Home Equity; More Housing Metrics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chrisman-commentary-daily-mortgage-news--ktv0CZBHy1-KbvhZXnac6G.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><b>Make 2024 your most profitable year yet! </b>With<b> </b><a href="http://www.lendertoolkit.com/">Lender Toolkit’s</a> AI-powered <a href="https://www.lendertoolkit.com/mortgage-underwriting-ai-underwriter/">AI Underwriter</a> and <a href="https://www.lendertoolkit.com/prism-ai-driven-borrower-income-automation/">Prism</a> borrower income automation tools, you’ll be able to get loans approved in under two minutes. By providing lightening-fast underwriting decisions, your market reputation with borrowers and Realtors will soar—which means more repeat and referral business. Notes Mark Workens, CEO of Mortgage 1 Inc.: “Lender Toolkit&apos;s Maas™ Platform solutions have fundamentally transformed how we do business Our profitability has skyrocketed, and our employees have never been happier.” </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Chrisman LLC, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chrisman-commentary-daily-mortgage-news-KbvhZXnac6G/">Chrisman Commentary - Daily Mortgage News</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8af9b3b8e2f4dc5a11dac6dd2bdc60e/">12.21.23 Lending's Winter Solstice; Hometap's Dan Burnett on Home Equity; More Housing Metrics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f8af9b3b8e2f4dc5a11dac6dd2bdc60e/&notes=12.21.23 Lending's Winter Solstice; Hometap's Dan Burnett on Home Equity; More Housing Metrics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chrisman-commentary-daily-mortgage-news--ktv0CZBHy1-KbvhZXnac6G.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><b>Make 2024 your most profitable year yet! </b>With<b> </b><a href="http://www.lendertoolkit.com/">Lender Toolkit’s</a> AI-powered <a href="https://www.lendertoolkit.com/mortgage-underwriting-ai-underwriter/">AI Underwriter</a> and <a href="https://www.lendertoolkit.com/prism-ai-driven-borrower-income-automation/">Prism</a> borrower income automation tools, you’ll be able to get loans approved in under two minutes. By providing lightening-fast underwriting decisions, your market reputation with borrowers and Realtors will soar—which means more repeat and referral business. Notes Mark Workens, CEO of Mortgage 1 Inc.: “Lender Toolkit&apos;s Maas™ Platform solutions have fundamentally transformed how we do business Our profitability has skyrocketed, and our employees have never been happier.” </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Chrisman LLC, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Chrisman Commentary - Daily Mortgage News
Episode: 12.21.23 Lending's Winter Solstice; Hometap's Dan Burnett on Home Equity; More Housing Metrics
Pub date: 2023-12-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8af9b3b8e2f4dc5a11dac6dd2bdc60e/

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            <title>Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-6gSnXeV1aHv/">Power House</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6988153070364394a78dc95874a38dde/">Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6988153070364394a78dc95874a38dde/&notes=Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-qSZQzMPCvoU-6gSnXeV1aHv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On today’s episode, HW Media CEO Clayton Collins speaks with Sarah Dekin, the president and chief operating officer at Hometap and a 2023 HousingWire Women of Influence winner. Sarah joined Hometap in 2017 as their chief marketing officer, following her previous roles at many notable brands, including Zipcar, House of Blues, California Pizza Kitchen and Virgin. She brings a powerful combination of strategy, product and marketing expertise in both the consumer and B2B spaces.</p><p>During today’s conversation, she and Clayton explore the home equity investment space, the different business models that consumers and homeowners are tapping to access their home equity, and some of the opportunities that lie ahead. <br /><br /></p><p>Related to this episode:</p><ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahdekin/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
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<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hometap-equity-partners/">Follow Hometap on LinkedIn</a>  </li>
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<a href="http://hometap.com/">Hometap</a> </li>
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<a href="https://www.housingwire.com/winner-profile/2023-woman-of-influence-sarah-dekin/">2023 Woman of Influence: Sarah Dekin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXDD_3y3LvU60vac7eki-6Q">HousingWire on YouTube</a></li>
</ul><p>Enjoy the episode!<br /><br />The Housing News podcast explores the most critical topics in mortgage, real estate and fintech. A new mortgage or real estate executive joins the show each week to add perspective to the top stories crossing HousingWire’s news desk. Hosted by Clayton Collins and produced by the HW Media team.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-6gSnXeV1aHv/">Power House</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6988153070364394a78dc95874a38dde/">Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6988153070364394a78dc95874a38dde/&notes=Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/power-house-housingwire-qSZQzMPCvoU-6gSnXeV1aHv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On today’s episode, HW Media CEO Clayton Collins speaks with Sarah Dekin, the president and chief operating officer at Hometap and a 2023 HousingWire Women of Influence winner. Sarah joined Hometap in 2017 as their chief marketing officer, following her previous roles at many notable brands, including Zipcar, House of Blues, California Pizza Kitchen and Virgin. She brings a powerful combination of strategy, product and marketing expertise in both the consumer and B2B spaces.</p><p>During today’s conversation, she and Clayton explore the home equity investment space, the different business models that consumers and homeowners are tapping to access their home equity, and some of the opportunities that lie ahead. <br /><br /></p><p>Related to this episode:</p><ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahdekin/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hometap-equity-partners/">Follow Hometap on LinkedIn</a>  </li>
<li>
<a href="http://hometap.com/">Hometap</a> </li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.housingwire.com/winner-profile/2023-woman-of-influence-sarah-dekin/">2023 Woman of Influence: Sarah Dekin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXDD_3y3LvU60vac7eki-6Q">HousingWire on YouTube</a></li>
</ul><p>Enjoy the episode!<br /><br />The Housing News podcast explores the most critical topics in mortgage, real estate and fintech. A new mortgage or real estate executive joins the show each week to add perspective to the top stories crossing HousingWire’s news desk. Hosted by Clayton Collins and produced by the HW Media team.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HousingWire, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Power House
Episode: Home equity investment’s growing opportunity with Hometap’s Sarah Dekin
Pub date: 2023-10-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/6988153070364394a78dc95874a38dde/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 06:22:31 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-i46WJ5zkBTg/">The Joe Walker Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfe08e7f84c74b03a898c7b215898daf/">Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-09-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dfe08e7f84c74b03a898c7b215898daf/&notes=Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-VA281LxBFXC-i46WJ5zkBTg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Nassim Taleb is trader, researcher and essayist. He is the author of the <em>Incerto</em>, a multi-volume philosophical and practical meditation on uncertainty.</p> <p>Full transcript available at: <a class="link" href="https://josephnoelwalker.com/nassim-taleb-158/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://josephnoelwalker.com/nassim-taleb-158/</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Walker, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-i46WJ5zkBTg/">The Joe Walker Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfe08e7f84c74b03a898c7b215898daf/">Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-09-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dfe08e7f84c74b03a898c7b215898daf/&notes=Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-VA281LxBFXC-i46WJ5zkBTg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Nassim Taleb is trader, researcher and essayist. He is the author of the <em>Incerto</em>, a multi-volume philosophical and practical meditation on uncertainty.</p> <p>Full transcript available at: <a class="link" href="https://josephnoelwalker.com/nassim-taleb-158/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://josephnoelwalker.com/nassim-taleb-158/</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Walker, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Joe Walker Podcast
Episode: Nassim Taleb — Meditations on Extremistan
Pub date: 2024-09-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfe08e7f84c74b03a898c7b215898daf/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:10:29 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Joe Walker</author>



            
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            <title>Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/168a2ad0462149fb9030b79ffc4b24ad/">Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/168a2ad0462149fb9030b79ffc4b24ad/&notes=Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jay Keese is CEO of Capitol Advocates, a Washington D.C. based policy and advocacy firm specializing in healthcare issues. Jay has represented physicians for decades, starting with a career in government relations at American Medical Association. Over the years, he has won important legislative and regulatory battles for doctors, employers, payers, states, health technologists, hospitals, device and pharmaceutical manufacturers on critical health care delivery and payment reforms. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Jay worked closely with physician groups, Congress and both administrations on critical waivers to state and federal laws that allow practices to fully utilize digital health services such as telehealth and remote patient monitoring to provide better care in a public health emergency.<br /><br />Jay currently runs several national healthcare stakeholder coalitions. He serves as Executive Director of the Direct Primary Care Coalition. He was instrumental in drafting a provision in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) which defines Direct Primary Care (DPC) as a medical service offered outside of insurance which meets ACA Essential Health Benefits criteria. He then played a major role in the passage of over 30 related state laws and regulations clarifying the treatment of DPC medical services and bringing value-based primary care arrangements to Medicaid and State Employees’ health programs. He also leads advocacy work for the Partnership to Fight Chronic Disease (PFCD), a coalition of patients, providers, community leaders, businesses, unions, and health policy experts, committed to improving health outcomes and controlling costs by slowing the spread of preventable chronic disease by implementing more value-based payment and delivery reforms. He played a role in shaping many of these innovative reforms in the ACA and has helped implement programs like physician direct contracting with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) and the CMS Innovation Center (CMMI).<br /><br />Jay has worked with doctors, health technologists and software manufacturers for decades to support the adoption of health information technology and patient care applications. He worked with a broad bipartisan group of stakeholders on the creation of a risk-based regulatory framework for smartphone apps adopted by the Food and Drug Administration—part of the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act (FDASIA). He helped expand and implement many of these principles in provisions included in the 21st Century Cures Act. He began his career as an aide to the late Senator John Heinz (R-PA), a member of the Senate Finance Committee and Chairman of the Senate Aging Committee. Jay has been a guest lecturer at the Georgetown University School of Medicine and serves as an Adjunct Professor of Health Benefit Design at the University of Lynchburg, teaching a master’s degree class on the history of health policy.<br /><br />---------------------<br /><b>Check out the My DPC Story RESOURCE PAGE </b><a href="https://www.mydpcstory.com/resources"><b>HERE</b></a><b>!</b><br />---------------------<br /><b>HELP FUND THE PODCAST!</b><br />CLICK HERE to <a href="https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=U8K8HM52SPQ38">Support the show</a><br />-------</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/168a2ad0462149fb9030b79ffc4b24ad/">Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-10-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/168a2ad0462149fb9030b79ffc4b24ad/&notes=Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jay Keese is CEO of Capitol Advocates, a Washington D.C. based policy and advocacy firm specializing in healthcare issues. Jay has represented physicians for decades, starting with a career in government relations at American Medical Association. Over the years, he has won important legislative and regulatory battles for doctors, employers, payers, states, health technologists, hospitals, device and pharmaceutical manufacturers on critical health care delivery and payment reforms. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Jay worked closely with physician groups, Congress and both administrations on critical waivers to state and federal laws that allow practices to fully utilize digital health services such as telehealth and remote patient monitoring to provide better care in a public health emergency.<br /><br />Jay currently runs several national healthcare stakeholder coalitions. He serves as Executive Director of the Direct Primary Care Coalition. He was instrumental in drafting a provision in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) which defines Direct Primary Care (DPC) as a medical service offered outside of insurance which meets ACA Essential Health Benefits criteria. He then played a major role in the passage of over 30 related state laws and regulations clarifying the treatment of DPC medical services and bringing value-based primary care arrangements to Medicaid and State Employees’ health programs. He also leads advocacy work for the Partnership to Fight Chronic Disease (PFCD), a coalition of patients, providers, community leaders, businesses, unions, and health policy experts, committed to improving health outcomes and controlling costs by slowing the spread of preventable chronic disease by implementing more value-based payment and delivery reforms. He played a role in shaping many of these innovative reforms in the ACA and has helped implement programs like physician direct contracting with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) and the CMS Innovation Center (CMMI).<br /><br />Jay has worked with doctors, health technologists and software manufacturers for decades to support the adoption of health information technology and patient care applications. He worked with a broad bipartisan group of stakeholders on the creation of a risk-based regulatory framework for smartphone apps adopted by the Food and Drug Administration—part of the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act (FDASIA). He helped expand and implement many of these principles in provisions included in the 21st Century Cures Act. He began his career as an aide to the late Senator John Heinz (R-PA), a member of the Senate Finance Committee and Chairman of the Senate Aging Committee. Jay has been a guest lecturer at the Georgetown University School of Medicine and serves as an Adjunct Professor of Health Benefit Design at the University of Lynchburg, teaching a master’s degree class on the history of health policy.<br /><br />---------------------<br /><b>Check out the My DPC Story RESOURCE PAGE </b><a href="https://www.mydpcstory.com/resources"><b>HERE</b></a><b>!</b><br />---------------------<br /><b>HELP FUND THE PODCAST!</b><br />CLICK HERE to <a href="https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=U8K8HM52SPQ38">Support the show</a><br />-------</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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                <![CDATA[
Podcast: My DPC Story
Episode: Episode 146: Understanding the DPC Laws with Jay Keese - Executive Director of DPC Coalition
Pub date: 2023-10-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/168a2ad0462149fb9030b79ffc4b24ad/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:21:45 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>My DPC Story</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:55:26</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</itunes:author>
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            <title>A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245/">A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245/&notes=A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of the My DPC Story Podcast, Dr. Fred Bagares, a board-certified physiatrist specializing in sports and rehabilitation medicine, shares his story which includes details on his transformative journey from traditional, insurance-based practices to launching his own Direct Primary Care (DPC) model, MSK Direct, in Virginia Beach, VA. Throughout the episode, Dr. Bagares discusses the importance of personalized patient care, his transition to a cash-based system, and the challenges of establishing a micro practice. He also delves into his experiences with telemedicine, the impact of COVID-19 on his practice decisions, and his approach to integrating medical services organization (MSO) into his practice. Emphasizing patient relationships over procedural care, Dr. Bagares illustrates how direct primary care empowers physicians to deliver more attentive, tailored healthcare. This episode is a must-listen for healthcare professionals exploring DPC models or anyone interested in innovative healthcare solutions. Tune in to learn about the evolving landscape of patient-centered care and the strategic decisions involved in creating a fulfilling medical practice. Hear the EXTENDED INTERVIEW CONTENT on our My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON</a> today!</p><p>Key topics: Direct Primary Care, MSK Direct, patient care, telemedicine, healthcare innovation.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245/">A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245/&notes=A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of the My DPC Story Podcast, Dr. Fred Bagares, a board-certified physiatrist specializing in sports and rehabilitation medicine, shares his story which includes details on his transformative journey from traditional, insurance-based practices to launching his own Direct Primary Care (DPC) model, MSK Direct, in Virginia Beach, VA. Throughout the episode, Dr. Bagares discusses the importance of personalized patient care, his transition to a cash-based system, and the challenges of establishing a micro practice. He also delves into his experiences with telemedicine, the impact of COVID-19 on his practice decisions, and his approach to integrating medical services organization (MSO) into his practice. Emphasizing patient relationships over procedural care, Dr. Bagares illustrates how direct primary care empowers physicians to deliver more attentive, tailored healthcare. This episode is a must-listen for healthcare professionals exploring DPC models or anyone interested in innovative healthcare solutions. Tune in to learn about the evolving landscape of patient-centered care and the strategic decisions involved in creating a fulfilling medical practice. Hear the EXTENDED INTERVIEW CONTENT on our My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON</a> today!</p><p>Key topics: Direct Primary Care, MSK Direct, patient care, telemedicine, healthcare innovation.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: My DPC Story
Episode: A Deep Dive into Direct Musculoskeletal Care with Dr. Fred Bagares of MSK Direct
Pub date: 2024-04-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d05fd301ce2547dca10185bfa9f5c245/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:20:30 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>My DPC Story</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:09:51</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</itunes:author>
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            <title>Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4/">Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4/&notes=Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of the My DPC Story podcast, Dr. Ben Aiken of Lantern Health, a family physician with a background in international studies and public health, delves into the innovative model of Direct Primary Care (DPC), where a low monthly membership allows patients to build lasting relationships with their doctors. Dr. Aiken shares his journey from being part of a traditional health system to establishing an independent DPC practice unexpectedly. He emphasizes the importance of community-oriented care, system-level healthcare change, and the role of health coaches in primary care. The episode also touches upon the challenges and successes of transitioning a DPC practice, branding, staff roles, and fostering a supportive environment for other physicians to join the DPC movement. Lastly, he reflects on the broader implications and potential growth of the DPC model in the future of American healthcare.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4/">Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4/&notes=Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode of the My DPC Story podcast, Dr. Ben Aiken of Lantern Health, a family physician with a background in international studies and public health, delves into the innovative model of Direct Primary Care (DPC), where a low monthly membership allows patients to build lasting relationships with their doctors. Dr. Aiken shares his journey from being part of a traditional health system to establishing an independent DPC practice unexpectedly. He emphasizes the importance of community-oriented care, system-level healthcare change, and the role of health coaches in primary care. The episode also touches upon the challenges and successes of transitioning a DPC practice, branding, staff roles, and fostering a supportive environment for other physicians to join the DPC movement. Lastly, he reflects on the broader implications and potential growth of the DPC model in the future of American healthcare.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: My DPC Story
Episode: Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 1
Pub date: 2024-06-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ecedeeabd7924ba8a7bf343510b8abd4/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:19:57 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:56:46</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</itunes:author>
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            <title>Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b/">Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b/&notes=Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In Episode 169 of the My DPC Story podcast, we hear Dr. Ben Aiken&apos;s continued story as he discusses the challenges and strategies involved in expanding his Direct Primary Care (DPC) practice, Lantern Health, in North Carolina.  Dr. Aiken explores the importance of fostering team independence, maintaining high standards of patient care, and the potential for opening new locations. He shares insights on working with employers to integrate DPC into employee health plans and the critical balance between maintaining practice autonomy and meeting employer expectations. The conversation also highlights key legislative advocacy efforts in Washington, D.C., particularly around the Medicaid Improvement Act and the crucial role DPC physicians play in shaping policy. Dr. Aiken emphasizes the need for storytelling and relationship-building to convey the benefits of DPC to various stakeholders effectively. The episode concludes with a call to action for DPC physicians to engage in advocacy to ensure the sustainability and growth of the DPC model.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-TtzSCJl1Hgb/">My DPC Story</a> (LS 41 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b/">Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b/&notes=Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/my-dpc-story-maryal-concepcion-md-UmcnbvOe7HG-TtzSCJl1Hgb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In Episode 169 of the My DPC Story podcast, we hear Dr. Ben Aiken&apos;s continued story as he discusses the challenges and strategies involved in expanding his Direct Primary Care (DPC) practice, Lantern Health, in North Carolina.  Dr. Aiken explores the importance of fostering team independence, maintaining high standards of patient care, and the potential for opening new locations. He shares insights on working with employers to integrate DPC into employee health plans and the critical balance between maintaining practice autonomy and meeting employer expectations. The conversation also highlights key legislative advocacy efforts in Washington, D.C., particularly around the Medicaid Improvement Act and the crucial role DPC physicians play in shaping policy. Dr. Aiken emphasizes the need for storytelling and relationship-building to convey the benefits of DPC to various stakeholders effectively. The episode concludes with a call to action for DPC physicians to engage in advocacy to ensure the sustainability and growth of the DPC model.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/46MzTo8"><b>Get $250 off registration at HLTH</b></a> with code H26MYDPCSTORY - and join Maryal at Healthcare&apos;s #1 Innovation Event. Las Vegas Nov 15th-18th.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><p><b>GET your </b><a href="https://cme.sh/InHG8O"><b>FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOAD</b></a></p><p>Become A My DPC Story <a href="https://bit.ly/3SUZkfQ">PATREON MEMBER</a>! <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/3NIqWmP"><b>SPONSOR</b></a><b> THE POD</b><br /><b>My DPC Story </b><a href="https://bit.ly/3R4jrHr"><b>VOICEMAIL</b></a>! <b>DPC </b><a href="https://bit.ly/41eh5dG"><b>SWAG!</b></a><br /><a href="http://facebook.com/mydpcstory">FACEBOOK</a> * <a href="https://instagram.com/mydpcstory">INSTAGRAM</a> * <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-dpc-story">LinkedIn</a> * <a href="http://twitter.com/mydpcstory">TWITTER</a> * <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mydpcstory">TIKTOK</a> * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0f6tYgQfs77nNU9BGekuFg">YouTube</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Maryal Concepcion, MD, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: My DPC Story
Episode: Crafting Better Healthcare: The Lantern Health Story - Pt. 2
Pub date: 2024-06-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/5bc016956509422e9236e2df590ada8b/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:19:51 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>My DPC Story</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:39:42</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Maryal Concepcion, MD</itunes:author>
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            <title>#2190 - Peter Thiel</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-rogan-experience-joe-rogan-s_ML5QqPi0v/">The Joe Rogan Experience</a> (LS 96 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe/">#2190 - Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-08-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe/&notes=#2190 - Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-rogan-experience-joe-rogan-C-dSA2BLbcI-s_ML5QqPi0v.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel is an entrepreneur and investor. He co-founded PayPal, made the first outside investment in Facebook, and co-founded Palantir Technologies, where he serves as chairman. Thiel is a partner at Founders Fund and leads the Thiel Foundation, which funds technological progress and long-term thinking. He is also the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Zero to One.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://foundersfund.com/">https://foundersfund.com</a></p><p><a href="https://palantir.com/">https://palantir.com</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Rogan, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-rogan-experience-joe-rogan-s_ML5QqPi0v/">The Joe Rogan Experience</a> (LS 96 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe/">#2190 - Peter Thiel</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-08-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe/&notes=#2190 - Peter Thiel">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-rogan-experience-joe-rogan-C-dSA2BLbcI-s_ML5QqPi0v.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel is an entrepreneur and investor. He co-founded PayPal, made the first outside investment in Facebook, and co-founded Palantir Technologies, where he serves as chairman. Thiel is a partner at Founders Fund and leads the Thiel Foundation, which funds technological progress and long-term thinking. He is also the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Zero to One.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://foundersfund.com/">https://foundersfund.com</a></p><p><a href="https://palantir.com/">https://palantir.com</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Rogan, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Joe Rogan Experience
Episode: #2190 - Peter Thiel
Pub date: 2024-08-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9411656833df418299da51540c8e9abe/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:00:04 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Joe Rogan</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Joe Rogan Experience</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>03:35:33</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Joe Rogan</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/outcomes-rocket-saul-marquez-HgzjK9I8Pem/">Outcomes Rocket</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4/">Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4/&notes=Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/outcomes-rocket-saul-marquez--EnTLQzdjbH-HgzjK9I8Pem.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we are privileged to feature the outstanding Dr. John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD. John is an emergency physician, author, serial student, pilot, and multidisciplinary entrepreneur, who has founded and operated several multi-million-dollar businesses. John shares the genesis of TribalEM, and how it is making a difference in the lives of the people in the valley. He also talks about MeMD and his desire to improve the delivery of health and helping other physicians transition into entrepreneurship do the same. He also shares his thoughts on virtual primary care, AI, and many more. John’s passion for healthcare and entrepreneurship is inspiring and definitely a must for healthcare entrepreneurs so please tune in!</p>
<p>Click this link to the show notes, transcript, and resources: <a href="https://outcomesrocket.health/john-shufeldt/2021/03/">outcomesrocket.health</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Saul Marquez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/outcomes-rocket-saul-marquez-HgzjK9I8Pem/">Outcomes Rocket</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4/">Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4/&notes=Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/outcomes-rocket-saul-marquez--EnTLQzdjbH-HgzjK9I8Pem.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we are privileged to feature the outstanding Dr. John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD. John is an emergency physician, author, serial student, pilot, and multidisciplinary entrepreneur, who has founded and operated several multi-million-dollar businesses. John shares the genesis of TribalEM, and how it is making a difference in the lives of the people in the valley. He also talks about MeMD and his desire to improve the delivery of health and helping other physicians transition into entrepreneurship do the same. He also shares his thoughts on virtual primary care, AI, and many more. John’s passion for healthcare and entrepreneurship is inspiring and definitely a must for healthcare entrepreneurs so please tune in!</p>
<p>Click this link to the show notes, transcript, and resources: <a href="https://outcomesrocket.health/john-shufeldt/2021/03/">outcomesrocket.health</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Saul Marquez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Outcomes Rocket
Episode: Physician Entrepreneurship in the New Era of Healthcare with John Shufeldt, Founder and CEO of TribalEM and MeMD
Pub date: 2021-03-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/92db15410f054094937186b7709b44a4/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Saul Marquez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:24:25 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Saul Marquez</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Outcomes Rocket</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:21:32</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Saul Marquez</itunes:author>
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            <title>Featured Guest: John Shufeldt</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-authority-company-joe-pardavila-htrJzTjsEp-/">The Authority Company</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f3de90514fbd4318b38126806003424c/">Featured Guest: John Shufeldt</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f3de90514fbd4318b38126806003424c/&notes=Featured Guest: John Shufeldt">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-authority-company-joe-pardavila-_4NISs1LdyB-htrJzTjsEp-.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week we're featuring John Shufeldt, MD, one of the nation’s leading medical entrepreneurs and the author of the upcoming book, Entrepreneur Rx. John discusses how he founded and operated several multi-million-dollar businesses all while being an emergency room physician.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Pardavila, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-authority-company-joe-pardavila-htrJzTjsEp-/">The Authority Company</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f3de90514fbd4318b38126806003424c/">Featured Guest: John Shufeldt</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f3de90514fbd4318b38126806003424c/&notes=Featured Guest: John Shufeldt">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-authority-company-joe-pardavila-_4NISs1LdyB-htrJzTjsEp-.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week we're featuring John Shufeldt, MD, one of the nation’s leading medical entrepreneurs and the author of the upcoming book, Entrepreneur Rx. John discusses how he founded and operated several multi-million-dollar businesses all while being an emergency room physician.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Pardavila, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Authority Company
Episode: Featured Guest: John Shufeldt
Pub date: 2021-01-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f3de90514fbd4318b38126806003424c/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Pardavila, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:24:14 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Joe Pardavila</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Authority Company</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:32:00</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Joe Pardavila</itunes:author>
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            <title>WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/white-coat-investor-podcast-dr-jim-dahle-of-Yy09gdPxlGt/">White Coat Investor Podcast</a> (LS 62 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7/">WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7/&notes=WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/white-coat-investor-podcast-dr-jim-dahle-of-OlBFUJ_d5sY-Yy09gdPxlGt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode Dr. Dahle interviews Dr. John Shufeldt. He has had a pretty remarkable career in entrepreneurship. Dr. Shufeldt talks to us about physicians being entrepreneurs and the life cycle of starting up a business. He walks through how to scale, mistakes he made over the years, raising money, selling your business and so much more. See the full show notes here: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/physician-entrepreneurism-and-venture-capital-with-dr-john-shufeldt-281"> https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/physician-entrepreneurism-and-venture-capital-with-dr-john-shufeldt-281</a> </p> <p>If you're like most doctors, nobody taught you anything about personal finance or investing during your undergrad, professional school, or residency. And even though your family - and perhaps even your business - rely on you to be the Chief Financial Officer, you have never been given the tools to succeed. Enroll in WCI Financial Boot Camp, a FREE educational email series, and learn to convert your high income to wealth. You will learn the basics of investing, saving, insurance, and more. Your high income alone will not lead to financial success, but as always, we want to help you on your financial journey. Go to <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/financialbootcamp">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/financialbootcamp</a> to sign up today! You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help.</p> <p>The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!</p> <p>Main Website: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube</a> Student Loan Advice: <a href="https://studentloanadvice.com">https://studentloanadvice.com</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor">https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor</a> Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/WCInvestor">https://twitter.com/WCInvestor</a> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor">https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor</a> Subreddit: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor">https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor</a> Online Courses: <a href="https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com">https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com</a> Newsletter: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter</a> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/white-coat-investor-podcast-dr-jim-dahle-of-Yy09gdPxlGt/">White Coat Investor Podcast</a> (LS 62 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7/">WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7/&notes=WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/white-coat-investor-podcast-dr-jim-dahle-of-OlBFUJ_d5sY-Yy09gdPxlGt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This episode Dr. Dahle interviews Dr. John Shufeldt. He has had a pretty remarkable career in entrepreneurship. Dr. Shufeldt talks to us about physicians being entrepreneurs and the life cycle of starting up a business. He walks through how to scale, mistakes he made over the years, raising money, selling your business and so much more. See the full show notes here: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/physician-entrepreneurism-and-venture-capital-with-dr-john-shufeldt-281"> https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/physician-entrepreneurism-and-venture-capital-with-dr-john-shufeldt-281</a> </p> <p>If you're like most doctors, nobody taught you anything about personal finance or investing during your undergrad, professional school, or residency. And even though your family - and perhaps even your business - rely on you to be the Chief Financial Officer, you have never been given the tools to succeed. Enroll in WCI Financial Boot Camp, a FREE educational email series, and learn to convert your high income to wealth. You will learn the basics of investing, saving, insurance, and more. Your high income alone will not lead to financial success, but as always, we want to help you on your financial journey. Go to <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/financialbootcamp">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/financialbootcamp</a> to sign up today! You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help.</p> <p>The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you!</p> <p>Main Website: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com</a> YouTube: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube</a> Student Loan Advice: <a href="https://studentloanadvice.com">https://studentloanadvice.com</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor">https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor</a> Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/WCInvestor">https://twitter.com/WCInvestor</a> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor">https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor</a> Subreddit: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor">https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor</a> Online Courses: <a href="https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com">https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com</a> Newsletter: <a href="https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter">https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter</a> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: White Coat Investor Podcast
Episode: WCI #281: Physician Entrepreneurism and Venture Capital With Dr. John Shufeldt
Pub date: 2022-09-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/cb0b36d2bbad4e75a06ded1ffff411d7/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:24:07 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:45:20</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor</itunes:author>
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            <title>ER &amp; Entrepreneurship: John Shufeldt&#x27;s MeMD Walmart Deal</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/07794d494dee448a8c16f1ef30f04f2e</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-exit-presented-by-flippa-the-exit-5Dij0ThRvqo/">The Exit - Presented By Flippa</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/07794d494dee448a8c16f1ef30f04f2e/">ER & Entrepreneurship: John Shufeldt's MeMD Walmart Deal</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/07794d494dee448a8c16f1ef30f04f2e/&notes=ER & Entrepreneurship: John Shufeldt's MeMD Walmart Deal">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-exit-presented-by-flippa-the-exit-OaTq1rxov2Z-5Dij0ThRvqo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week on The Exit: John Shufeldt was an ER doctor before embarking on a decades-long career as a serial healthcare entrepreneur with three companies and a health-tech VC firm under his belt.

He details the sale of his virtual medicine business, MeMD to Walmart in 2021.

He recognizes that, while he happened to sell at a peak valuation, it wasn’t due to timing the market, but rather his success came in selling the company while there was still a “blue ocean” of growth opportunity ahead, and a compelling story of year-over-year historic growth.

When selling to large buyers like those of Walmart, he emphasizes how important it is to have your numbers in order, and how much easier it is to build this into your business operations early, rather than retroactively trying to clean up finances when an offer is at your doorstep.

For more details and insights from his entrepreneurial journey, listen to the latest episode of The Exit.



John Shufeldt has more than three decades of healthcare entrepreneurship. In 1993, John founded NextCare, Inc., which expanded under his leadership from one to 60 clinics across six states, generating nearly $100 million in revenue. In 2010, after his tenure as NextCare’s CEO, John launched MeMD, LLC, connecting over 500 medical professionals to patients virtually. Walmart acquired MeMD in 2021. John created Tribal Health in 2015, addressing healthcare needs in Indigenous territories. The organization now employs over 450 providers across 35 Native American healthcare facilities. In 2021, he founded Xcellerant Ventures, a VC firm focused on investing in health-tech startups.


LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-shufeldt/ 

Website: https://www.johnshufeldtmd.com/ 

Website: https://www.linkedin.com/company/xcellerantventures/ 

For a Free Flippa Business Valuation: https://flippa.com/exit 





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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-exit-presented-by-flippa-the-exit-5Dij0ThRvqo/">The Exit - Presented By Flippa</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/07794d494dee448a8c16f1ef30f04f2e/">ER & Entrepreneurship: John Shufeldt's MeMD Walmart Deal</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/07794d494dee448a8c16f1ef30f04f2e/&notes=ER & Entrepreneurship: John Shufeldt's MeMD Walmart Deal">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-exit-presented-by-flippa-the-exit-OaTq1rxov2Z-5Dij0ThRvqo.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week on The Exit: John Shufeldt was an ER doctor before embarking on a decades-long career as a serial healthcare entrepreneur with three companies and a health-tech VC firm under his belt.

He details the sale of his virtual medicine business, MeMD to Walmart in 2021.

He recognizes that, while he happened to sell at a peak valuation, it wasn’t due to timing the market, but rather his success came in selling the company while there was still a “blue ocean” of growth opportunity ahead, and a compelling story of year-over-year historic growth.

When selling to large buyers like those of Walmart, he emphasizes how important it is to have your numbers in order, and how much easier it is to build this into your business operations early, rather than retroactively trying to clean up finances when an offer is at your doorstep.

For more details and insights from his entrepreneurial journey, listen to the latest episode of The Exit.



John Shufeldt has more than three decades of healthcare entrepreneurship. In 1993, John founded NextCare, Inc., which expanded under his leadership from one to 60 clinics across six states, generating nearly $100 million in revenue. In 2010, after his tenure as NextCare’s CEO, John launched MeMD, LLC, connecting over 500 medical professionals to patients virtually. Walmart acquired MeMD in 2021. John created Tribal Health in 2015, addressing healthcare needs in Indigenous territories. The organization now employs over 450 providers across 35 Native American healthcare facilities. In 2021, he founded Xcellerant Ventures, a VC firm focused on investing in health-tech startups.


LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-shufeldt/ 

Website: https://www.johnshufeldtmd.com/ 

Website: https://www.linkedin.com/company/xcellerantventures/ 

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-kinked-wire-society-of-interventional-5MtIDBAiNG2/">The Kinked Wire</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/01bc8e80e7184018baf36e51fd17d287/">Episode 34: Finding success with an office-based lab in interventional radiology</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/01bc8e80e7184018baf36e51fd17d287/&notes=Episode 34: Finding success with an office-based lab in interventional radiology">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-kinked-wire-society-of-interventional-A0m9sxVdN87-5MtIDBAiNG2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><em>“So in general, an office-based lab might be more easy to stand up. There might be less cost associated with an OBL and fewer hurdles from the regulatory standpoint for a physician to jump over.” —</em><b><em>Joel R. Rainwater, MD</em></b><em><br /></em><br />Host Roger T. Tomihama, MD, speaks with interventional radiologist Joel R. Rainwater, MD, about his experience building a network of 12 office-based labs (OBLs) in 5 states, what interventional radiologists should keep in mind when considering the OBL business model, opportunities for IRs-in-training, and more. </p><p><b><em>Note:</em></b><em> This episode was recorded on  Aug. 27, 2022.<br /></em><a href="mailto:irq@sirweb.org?subject=Kinked%20Wire%20podcast"><b><br />Contact us</b></a><b> </b>with your ideas and questions, or read more about about interventional radiology in <a href="http://sirweb.org/irq"><b><em>IR Quarterly </em></b><b>magazine</b></a> or SIR&apos;s <a href="https://www.sirweb.org/patient-center/"><b>Patient Center</b></a><b>.</b><br /><br /><b>(c) </b><a href="http://sirweb.org/"><b>Society of Interventional Radiology</b></a><b>.</b></p><p><a href="https://www.sirweb.org/corporate-gateway/advertising/" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Society of Interventional Radiology, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-kinked-wire-society-of-interventional-5MtIDBAiNG2/">The Kinked Wire</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/01bc8e80e7184018baf36e51fd17d287/">Episode 34: Finding success with an office-based lab in interventional radiology</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/01bc8e80e7184018baf36e51fd17d287/&notes=Episode 34: Finding success with an office-based lab in interventional radiology">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-kinked-wire-society-of-interventional-A0m9sxVdN87-5MtIDBAiNG2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><em>“So in general, an office-based lab might be more easy to stand up. There might be less cost associated with an OBL and fewer hurdles from the regulatory standpoint for a physician to jump over.” —</em><b><em>Joel R. Rainwater, MD</em></b><em><br /></em><br />Host Roger T. Tomihama, MD, speaks with interventional radiologist Joel R. Rainwater, MD, about his experience building a network of 12 office-based labs (OBLs) in 5 states, what interventional radiologists should keep in mind when considering the OBL business model, opportunities for IRs-in-training, and more. </p><p><b><em>Note:</em></b><em> This episode was recorded on  Aug. 27, 2022.<br /></em><a href="mailto:irq@sirweb.org?subject=Kinked%20Wire%20podcast"><b><br />Contact us</b></a><b> </b>with your ideas and questions, or read more about about interventional radiology in <a href="http://sirweb.org/irq"><b><em>IR Quarterly </em></b><b>magazine</b></a> or SIR&apos;s <a href="https://www.sirweb.org/patient-center/"><b>Patient Center</b></a><b>.</b><br /><br /><b>(c) </b><a href="http://sirweb.org/"><b>Society of Interventional Radiology</b></a><b>.</b></p><p><a href="https://www.sirweb.org/corporate-gateway/advertising/" rel="payment">Support the show</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Society of Interventional Radiology, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Pub date: 2022-09-13

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            <title>Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/91d9578891524437a28955361dd12375/">Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/91d9578891524437a28955361dd12375/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, the third in our 3 part series with Second Door Health, we continue our exploration of innovative approaches in physical therapy with Zach, the head of clinical strategy. Having previously discussed the foundations and business aspects with co-founders Scott and Ryan, this conversation with Zach goes deeper into the clinical implications and transformative potential of direct-to-employer healthcare services. Zach shares his extensive background and the pivotal transitions from hands-on clinical work to developing broad-scale health strategies that aim to redefine patient care.</p><p>We discuss the critical role of personalized care plans, the importance of understanding patient needs beyond the clinical environment, and how physical therapists can leverage their expertise to deliver holistic, impactful health outcomes. The discussion also covers the necessity of integrating educational outreach and behavioral health into physical therapy practice, challenging traditional treatment models.</p><p>Tune in to gain insights into how physical therapy can evolve from a service-based to a value-based profession, enhancing both patient well-being and professional satisfaction.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/91d9578891524437a28955361dd12375/">Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/91d9578891524437a28955361dd12375/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, the third in our 3 part series with Second Door Health, we continue our exploration of innovative approaches in physical therapy with Zach, the head of clinical strategy. Having previously discussed the foundations and business aspects with co-founders Scott and Ryan, this conversation with Zach goes deeper into the clinical implications and transformative potential of direct-to-employer healthcare services. Zach shares his extensive background and the pivotal transitions from hands-on clinical work to developing broad-scale health strategies that aim to redefine patient care.</p><p>We discuss the critical role of personalized care plans, the importance of understanding patient needs beyond the clinical environment, and how physical therapists can leverage their expertise to deliver holistic, impactful health outcomes. The discussion also covers the necessity of integrating educational outreach and behavioral health into physical therapy practice, challenging traditional treatment models.</p><p>Tune in to gain insights into how physical therapy can evolve from a service-based to a value-based profession, enhancing both patient well-being and professional satisfaction.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business
Episode: Going Direct to Employer: The Clinical (doing) Side: Part 3 - Interview with Zach Walston, DPT Clinical Lead of Second Door Health
Pub date: 2024-04-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/91d9578891524437a28955361dd12375/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:53:16 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc3b3e0f97cd486ebb86087f33afffcd/">Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dc3b3e0f97cd486ebb86087f33afffcd/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Welcome back to the What's Best for the Patient is Best for Business podcast where today we will dive into the evolving world of physical therapy, focusing on the cutting-edge approach of direct care models. Join Jerry Durham and the founders of Second Door Health as they discuss the transformative shift from traditional patient management to innovative strategies that engage directly with self-insured employers, sidestepping the usual insurance pathways. Scott and Ryan bring their rich backgrounds in technology and physical therapy into the conversation, sharing their journey from creating StriveLabs to founding Second Door and how these experiences have shaped their current mission.</p><p>Explore how engaging directly with employers and adopting direct-to-consumer models are opening new doors for physical therapy practices to flourish amid staffing, inflation, and cost challenges. The trio also delves into the crucial role of physical therapy in slashing musculoskeletal costs — the heftiest expense for employers — through intelligent, aligned healthcare strategies.</p><p>Listen in as our guests lay out actionable steps for PT practices to implement these models, stressing the critical need to target self-insured employers eager to curb spiraling healthcare costs. This episode is packed with insights into the physical therapy business landscape today and a forward-looking perspective on making practices more sustainable and profitable by embracing direct care.</p><p>Tune in for a deep dive into the future of physical therapy, where reducing healthcare costs and enhancing patient outcomes are paramount. And make sure you catch part two of our discussion, where we'll delve even deeper into making these innovative care models a reality.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc3b3e0f97cd486ebb86087f33afffcd/">Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dc3b3e0f97cd486ebb86087f33afffcd/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Welcome back to the What's Best for the Patient is Best for Business podcast where today we will dive into the evolving world of physical therapy, focusing on the cutting-edge approach of direct care models. Join Jerry Durham and the founders of Second Door Health as they discuss the transformative shift from traditional patient management to innovative strategies that engage directly with self-insured employers, sidestepping the usual insurance pathways. Scott and Ryan bring their rich backgrounds in technology and physical therapy into the conversation, sharing their journey from creating StriveLabs to founding Second Door and how these experiences have shaped their current mission.</p><p>Explore how engaging directly with employers and adopting direct-to-consumer models are opening new doors for physical therapy practices to flourish amid staffing, inflation, and cost challenges. The trio also delves into the crucial role of physical therapy in slashing musculoskeletal costs — the heftiest expense for employers — through intelligent, aligned healthcare strategies.</p><p>Listen in as our guests lay out actionable steps for PT practices to implement these models, stressing the critical need to target self-insured employers eager to curb spiraling healthcare costs. This episode is packed with insights into the physical therapy business landscape today and a forward-looking perspective on making practices more sustainable and profitable by embracing direct care.</p><p>Tune in for a deep dive into the future of physical therapy, where reducing healthcare costs and enhancing patient outcomes are paramount. And make sure you catch part two of our discussion, where we'll delve even deeper into making these innovative care models a reality.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business
Episode: Going Direct to Employer: The demand is insane! PART 1 - Interview with Scott Hebert, Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health
Pub date: 2024-04-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc3b3e0f97cd486ebb86087f33afffcd/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a9326c54c0bd4b058ce5222be26b301b/">Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a9326c54c0bd4b058ce5222be26b301b/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Welcome back to part 2 where we dive deep into the transformative world of direct care models in physical therapy, brought to you by Second Door Health. In the first episode, we laid the groundwork by discussing the 'why'—the core motivations and the targeted audience of direct care. Transitioning to this episode, we shift gears to focus more tactically on the 'how'—the concrete steps and strategies required to operationalize these innovative care models within your practice.</p><p>Joined by Scott and Ryan from Second Door Health, this session explores the practical aspects of integrating direct care into existing practices. Learn about creating efficient workflows, reducing administrative burdens, and utilizing Second Door Health’s software solutions designed to enhance care delivery, streamline billing, and maximize return on investment. We discuss the importance of starting with familiar connections in your community, leveraging relationships to ease into direct contracting with local employers.</p><p>Whether you're a seasoned practice owner or a newcomer curious about direct care, this episode provides a comprehensive roadmap and real-time insights into making the transition smoother and less intimidating. From benefit design and enrollment marketing to the final steps of showing tangible results and getting paid, every facet of implementing a successful direct care strategy is covered.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-RwhErCN1qdb/">Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business</a> (LS 25 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a9326c54c0bd4b058ce5222be26b301b/">Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-04-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a9326c54c0bd4b058ce5222be26b301b/&notes=Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/whats-best-for-the-patient-is-best-for-MoZrlijO7nB-RwhErCN1qdb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Welcome back to part 2 where we dive deep into the transformative world of direct care models in physical therapy, brought to you by Second Door Health. In the first episode, we laid the groundwork by discussing the 'why'—the core motivations and the targeted audience of direct care. Transitioning to this episode, we shift gears to focus more tactically on the 'how'—the concrete steps and strategies required to operationalize these innovative care models within your practice.</p><p>Joined by Scott and Ryan from Second Door Health, this session explores the practical aspects of integrating direct care into existing practices. Learn about creating efficient workflows, reducing administrative burdens, and utilizing Second Door Health’s software solutions designed to enhance care delivery, streamline billing, and maximize return on investment. We discuss the importance of starting with familiar connections in your community, leveraging relationships to ease into direct contracting with local employers.</p><p>Whether you're a seasoned practice owner or a newcomer curious about direct care, this episode provides a comprehensive roadmap and real-time insights into making the transition smoother and less intimidating. From benefit design and enrollment marketing to the final steps of showing tangible results and getting paid, every facet of implementing a successful direct care strategy is covered.</p>
<br /><p>If you'd like to learn more about <strong>Strata EMR &amp; RCM</strong> and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/">stratapt.com</a> and <a href="https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo">book a demo with their team!</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business
Episode: Going Direct to Employer: What does it actually look like? PART 2 - Interview with Scott Hebert and Ryan Klepps, Founders of Second Door Health
Pub date: 2024-04-25

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a9326c54c0bd4b058ce5222be26b301b/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jerry Durham, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:52:34 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Jerry Durham</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Jerry Durham</itunes:author>
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            <title>20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really &quot;Venture Capital&quot; | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-XCRoq0_A87U/">The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a/">20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really "Venture Capital" | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a/&notes=20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really "Venture Capital" | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-SCGFd4PbeU5-XCRoq0_A87U.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/wquist">Will Quist</a> is a Partner @ <a href="https://slow-prod.herokuapp.com/">Slow Ventures</a>. Over the last decade, the team at Slow Ventures have invested in the earliest rounds of over 500 companies including Robinhood, NextDoor, Airtable, Solana and many more. As for Will, prior to Slow he spent over 8 years at Industry Ventures and before industry, cut his teeth in the world of finance at Banc of America.</p> <p> </p> In Todays Episode with Will Quist We Discuss: <p> </p> <p>1.) Entry into Venture:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>How Will made his way from 6th generation San Francisco to Partner @ Slow?</li> <li>What are 1-2 of the biggest takeaways from his early 1-1s with Don Valentine?</li> <li>What does Will know now that he wishes he had known when he started in venture with Industry?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>2.) WTF Really is Venture Capital?</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>Why does Will believe that 95% of venture capital today is not really venture capital?</li> <li>What is true venture capital in Will's mind?</li> <li>How does Will divide the world of VC into two with; venture classic and new venture?</li> <li>How are they different? How are their return profiles different?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>3.) The Questions: Discovering Greatness:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>Why does Will believe "for the most part, investors across asset classes are just asking the same questions"?</li> <li>What are those questions? What different answers are each looking for?</li> <li>What are the 5 core questions that will needs to understand to determine conviction and accurately price an asset?</li> <li>How does Will think through and analyze the question when meeting founders of; "what needs to come true for this business to become a great business"?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>4.) The Future of Venture Capital:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>How does Will predict the venture capital ecosystem will look in 5 and then 10 years?</li> <li>What are the most concerning traits of the venture ecosystem for Will today?</li> <li>Who will be the winners of the next decade? Who will be the losers?</li> <li>What happens to the crossover funds? What will happen to Tiger?</li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Harry Stebbings, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-XCRoq0_A87U/">The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a/">20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really "Venture Capital" | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a/&notes=20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really "Venture Capital" | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-SCGFd4PbeU5-XCRoq0_A87U.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/wquist">Will Quist</a> is a Partner @ <a href="https://slow-prod.herokuapp.com/">Slow Ventures</a>. Over the last decade, the team at Slow Ventures have invested in the earliest rounds of over 500 companies including Robinhood, NextDoor, Airtable, Solana and many more. As for Will, prior to Slow he spent over 8 years at Industry Ventures and before industry, cut his teeth in the world of finance at Banc of America.</p> <p> </p> In Todays Episode with Will Quist We Discuss: <p> </p> <p>1.) Entry into Venture:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>How Will made his way from 6th generation San Francisco to Partner @ Slow?</li> <li>What are 1-2 of the biggest takeaways from his early 1-1s with Don Valentine?</li> <li>What does Will know now that he wishes he had known when he started in venture with Industry?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>2.) WTF Really is Venture Capital?</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>Why does Will believe that 95% of venture capital today is not really venture capital?</li> <li>What is true venture capital in Will's mind?</li> <li>How does Will divide the world of VC into two with; venture classic and new venture?</li> <li>How are they different? How are their return profiles different?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>3.) The Questions: Discovering Greatness:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>Why does Will believe "for the most part, investors across asset classes are just asking the same questions"?</li> <li>What are those questions? What different answers are each looking for?</li> <li>What are the 5 core questions that will needs to understand to determine conviction and accurately price an asset?</li> <li>How does Will think through and analyze the question when meeting founders of; "what needs to come true for this business to become a great business"?</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>4.) The Future of Venture Capital:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>How does Will predict the venture capital ecosystem will look in 5 and then 10 years?</li> <li>What are the most concerning traits of the venture ecosystem for Will today?</li> <li>Who will be the winners of the next decade? Who will be the losers?</li> <li>What happens to the crossover funds? What will happen to Tiger?</li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Harry Stebbings, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Episode: 20VC: Why 95% of Venture Capital is Not Really "Venture Capital" | The Five Core Levers Needed To Assess Risk and Price a Startup | The Future of Venture; Who Wins, Who Loses, What Happens to the Crossover Funds with Will Quist, Partner @ Slow Ventures
Pub date: 2022-09-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/47ee3617455a4851b4f1cfd2a518d88a/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Harry Stebbings, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:48:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Harry Stebbings</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Harry Stebbings</itunes:author>
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            <title>E31: Slow&#x27;s Will Quist on VC&#x27;s Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7dac12b4ee084ce5b0facb9171b3bc6c/">E31: Slow's Will Quist on VC's Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7dac12b4ee084ce5b0facb9171b3bc6c/&notes=E31: Slow's Will Quist on VC's Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today's episode features an interview with Will Quist, partner at Slow Ventures. In this conversation Will talks about his transition from water polo player to helping build Slow, Slow's unique thesis in venture, the old model of VC versus new VC, and treating venture capital like a phD program.</p><p><br /></p><p>Check out our two interviews with Will's partner at Slow, Sam Lessin:</p><p>Seed is Over <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7IPmDKjb4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7IPmDKjb4</a></p><p>VC in 2024 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crj_H3JPHvg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crj_H3JPHvg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>BOOK CITED:</p><p>The Success Equation: Untangling Skill and Luck in Business, Sports, and Investing by Michael J. Mauboussin</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.</p><p><br /></p><p>Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333">https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333</a></p><p>Listen on Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836.</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>SPONSOR: HARMONIC | SQUAD</p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to<a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine"> https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.</p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>Join our free newsletter: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>RELATED SHOWS: <a href="https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/"> @10xcapitalpodcast </a></p><p>If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The 10x Capital Podcast with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: <a href="https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/">https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>X / TWITTER:</p><p>@wquist (Will)</p><p>@eriktorenberg (Erik)</p><p>@turpentinemedia</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(00:14) Will Quist's Journey from Pro Athlete to VC</p><p>(04:44) Slow's Evolution</p><p>(07:00) Anti-Platform From the Jump</p><p>(09:51) Helping Founders Become Better Investors in Their Own Business</p><p>(14:49) Sponsor: Turpentine</p><p>(15:12) Old vs. New Venture Capital Models</p><p>(20:46) VC Framework</p><p>(26:05) Franchises</p><p>(29:49) Success in Venture Capital</p><p>(31:13) Fund Size and Portfolio Construction at Slow</p><p>(36:11) Multistage Challenges and Opportunities</p><p>(39:25) Introducing the Slow PhD Program</p><p>(44:22) Philosophy of Building and Investing</p><p>(54:06) Wrap</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7dac12b4ee084ce5b0facb9171b3bc6c/">E31: Slow's Will Quist on VC's Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7dac12b4ee084ce5b0facb9171b3bc6c/&notes=E31: Slow's Will Quist on VC's Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today's episode features an interview with Will Quist, partner at Slow Ventures. In this conversation Will talks about his transition from water polo player to helping build Slow, Slow's unique thesis in venture, the old model of VC versus new VC, and treating venture capital like a phD program.</p><p><br /></p><p>Check out our two interviews with Will's partner at Slow, Sam Lessin:</p><p>Seed is Over <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7IPmDKjb4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7IPmDKjb4</a></p><p>VC in 2024 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crj_H3JPHvg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crj_H3JPHvg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>BOOK CITED:</p><p>The Success Equation: Untangling Skill and Luck in Business, Sports, and Investing by Michael J. Mauboussin</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.</p><p><br /></p><p>Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333">https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333</a></p><p>Listen on Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836.</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>SPONSOR: HARMONIC | SQUAD</p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to<a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine"> https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.</p><p><br /></p><p>💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>Join our free newsletter: https://turpentinevc.substack.com/</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p>RELATED SHOWS: <a href="https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/"> @10xcapitalpodcast </a></p><p>If you like Turpentine VC, check out our show The 10x Capital Podcast with David Weisburd, where David talks to the investors behind the investors: <a href="https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/">https://10xcapitalpodcast.com/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>X / TWITTER:</p><p>@wquist (Will)</p><p>@eriktorenberg (Erik)</p><p>@turpentinemedia</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(00:14) Will Quist's Journey from Pro Athlete to VC</p><p>(04:44) Slow's Evolution</p><p>(07:00) Anti-Platform From the Jump</p><p>(09:51) Helping Founders Become Better Investors in Their Own Business</p><p>(14:49) Sponsor: Turpentine</p><p>(15:12) Old vs. New Venture Capital Models</p><p>(20:46) VC Framework</p><p>(26:05) Franchises</p><p>(29:49) Success in Venture Capital</p><p>(31:13) Fund Size and Portfolio Construction at Slow</p><p>(36:11) Multistage Challenges and Opportunities</p><p>(39:25) Introducing the Slow PhD Program</p><p>(44:22) Philosophy of Building and Investing</p><p>(54:06) Wrap</p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: E31: Slow's Will Quist on VC's Job to Fund the Creation of New Data Sets
Pub date: 2024-03-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7dac12b4ee084ce5b0facb9171b3bc6c/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:46:48 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:author>Erik Torenberg</itunes:author>
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            <title>E18: Sam Lessin on What&#x27;s Going to Happen to VC in 2024</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84/">E18: Sam Lessin on What's Going to Happen to VC in 2024</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84/&notes=E18: Sam Lessin on What's Going to Happen to VC in 2024">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we’re back with Sam Lessin for a round 2 focused on the changing landscape of venture. We dig into the viability of M&amp;A as a strategy for startups, “its always been crypto”, media businesses, and the role of reputation systems. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a> for a $1/month trial period.</p><p>---</p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist</p><p><br /></p><p>Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.</p><p><br /></p><p>Subscribe on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm">https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm</a></p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913</a></p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj">https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj</a></p><p>---</p><p>We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/ee803dfe-c928-11ed-9b11-738e6e384163/podcasts/e198a7da-81aa-11ee-af3d-9f98fb77a056/episodes/073b5822-a91d-11ee-8e91-eb9238e80e65/eriktorenberg.com">eriktorenberg.com</a>.</p><p>---</p><p><strong>SPONSOR: HARMONIC | SHOPIFY | NETSUITE</strong></p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to<a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine"> https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.</p><p><br /></p><p>Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite <a href="http://netsuite.com/turpentine">http://netsuite.com/turpentine</a> and download your own customized KPI checklist.</p><p>---</p><p>Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode: <a href="https://turpentinevc.substack.com/">https://turpentinevc.substack.com/</a></p><p>---</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>(00:00) Episode Preview</p><p>(01:27) Round 2 with Sam, the VC Doomer</p><p>(06:24) The mechanism of how low interest rates leads to public markets valuing companies at super high multiples</p><p>(10:28) Disruption fundamentally changed who the winners and losers would be</p><p>(15:49) Sponsor - NetSuite</p><p>(16:50) What would a $100B company look like in 15-20 years</p><p>(23:20) The emergence of cultural changes after Covid-19</p><p>(28:27) The only way to make real money is to be betting differently</p><p>(36:36) Do franchises go public and the fundamental liquidity question</p><p>(42:01) What's the best business to build on top of media company?</p><p>(51:20) Sam's insights on reputation businesses</p><p>(55:00) Sam's take on advanced reputation system</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-djNP4E6Uxa3/">"Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84/">E18: Sam Lessin on What's Going to Happen to VC in 2024</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84/&notes=E18: Sam Lessin on What's Going to Happen to VC in 2024">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/turpentine-vc-venture-capital-and-investing-rfXUu5To_dI-djNP4E6Uxa3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we’re back with Sam Lessin for a round 2 focused on the changing landscape of venture. We dig into the viability of M&amp;A as a strategy for startups, “its always been crypto”, media businesses, and the role of reputation systems. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a> for a $1/month trial period.</p><p>---</p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist</p><p><br /></p><p>Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.</p><p><br /></p><p>Subscribe on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm">https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm</a></p><p>Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913</a></p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj">https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj</a></p><p>---</p><p>We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/ee803dfe-c928-11ed-9b11-738e6e384163/podcasts/e198a7da-81aa-11ee-af3d-9f98fb77a056/episodes/073b5822-a91d-11ee-8e91-eb9238e80e65/eriktorenberg.com">eriktorenberg.com</a>.</p><p>---</p><p><strong>SPONSOR: HARMONIC | SHOPIFY | NETSUITE</strong></p><p>🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to<a href="https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine"> https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine</a> and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.</p><p><br /></p><p>Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite <a href="http://netsuite.com/turpentine">http://netsuite.com/turpentine</a> and download your own customized KPI checklist.</p><p>---</p><p>Join our free newsletter to get Erik's top 3 insights from each episode: <a href="https://turpentinevc.substack.com/">https://turpentinevc.substack.com/</a></p><p>---</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>(00:00) Episode Preview</p><p>(01:27) Round 2 with Sam, the VC Doomer</p><p>(06:24) The mechanism of how low interest rates leads to public markets valuing companies at super high multiples</p><p>(10:28) Disruption fundamentally changed who the winners and losers would be</p><p>(15:49) Sponsor - NetSuite</p><p>(16:50) What would a $100B company look like in 15-20 years</p><p>(23:20) The emergence of cultural changes after Covid-19</p><p>(28:27) The only way to make real money is to be betting differently</p><p>(36:36) Do franchises go public and the fundamental liquidity question</p><p>(42:01) What's the best business to build on top of media company?</p><p>(51:20) Sam's insights on reputation businesses</p><p>(55:00) Sam's take on advanced reputation system</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: "Turpentine VC" | Venture Capital and Investing
Episode: E18: Sam Lessin on What's Going to Happen to VC in 2024
Pub date: 2023-12-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a5720120254f42a28088f5314f43ea84/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:27:01 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Erik Torenberg</author>



            
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            <title>Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-with-auren-hoffman-auren-hoffman-SrUIsxCcDkz/">Summation with Auren Hoffman</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9f8c3d45c93141aab55b168d28c5f505/">Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9f8c3d45c93141aab55b168d28c5f505/&notes=Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-formerly-world-of-daas-summation-mlJBtw-NMfW-SrUIsxCcDkz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam Lessin is a GP at Slow Ventures, a former Facebook product manager, and the founder of Drop.io and Fin. He’s also the co-host of an excellent podcast on tech called <a href="https://ti.theinformation.com/more-less-pod/">More or Less</a>. </p><p><br /></p><p>On this episode of World of DaaS, Sam gives a comprehensive breakdown of the state of venture capital. Auren and Sam discuss the “unicorn factory” for building public companies, the influence of megafunds like Tiger Global and Softbank, and the fundamental changes that VC went through in 2018-2022. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sam also shares his outlook on the best areas for investment in 2024 and beyond, including which founders are set up to thrive and which businesses are likely to struggle. They also go deep on the dynamics of investing in AI– Sam is confident he knows who the winners will be in artificial intelligence. </p><p><br /></p><p>To close out, Auren and Sam dive into some of the “weird” investment ideas they’re exploring, like income share agreements and backing creators. They also reflect on the changing global landscape of tech and discuss whether the era of the “open internet” is over. </p><p><br /></p><p>World of DaaS is brought to you by <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/">SafeGraph</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.flexcapital.com/">Flex Capital</a>. For more episodes, visit <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/podcasts">safegraph.com/podcasts</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can find Auren Hoffman on X at <a href="https://twitter.com/auren">@auren</a> and Sam Lessin on X at <a href="https://twitter.com/lessin">@lessin</a>. </p><p><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-with-auren-hoffman-auren-hoffman-SrUIsxCcDkz/">Summation with Auren Hoffman</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9f8c3d45c93141aab55b168d28c5f505/">Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9f8c3d45c93141aab55b168d28c5f505/&notes=Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-formerly-world-of-daas-summation-mlJBtw-NMfW-SrUIsxCcDkz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam Lessin is a GP at Slow Ventures, a former Facebook product manager, and the founder of Drop.io and Fin. He’s also the co-host of an excellent podcast on tech called <a href="https://ti.theinformation.com/more-less-pod/">More or Less</a>. </p><p><br /></p><p>On this episode of World of DaaS, Sam gives a comprehensive breakdown of the state of venture capital. Auren and Sam discuss the “unicorn factory” for building public companies, the influence of megafunds like Tiger Global and Softbank, and the fundamental changes that VC went through in 2018-2022. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sam also shares his outlook on the best areas for investment in 2024 and beyond, including which founders are set up to thrive and which businesses are likely to struggle. They also go deep on the dynamics of investing in AI– Sam is confident he knows who the winners will be in artificial intelligence. </p><p><br /></p><p>To close out, Auren and Sam dive into some of the “weird” investment ideas they’re exploring, like income share agreements and backing creators. They also reflect on the changing global landscape of tech and discuss whether the era of the “open internet” is over. </p><p><br /></p><p>World of DaaS is brought to you by <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/">SafeGraph</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.flexcapital.com/">Flex Capital</a>. For more episodes, visit <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/podcasts">safegraph.com/podcasts</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can find Auren Hoffman on X at <a href="https://twitter.com/auren">@auren</a> and Sam Lessin on X at <a href="https://twitter.com/lessin">@lessin</a>. </p><p><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Summation with Auren Hoffman
Episode: Sam Lessin of SlowVC: The End of Factory-Farmed Unicorns
Pub date: 2023-12-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9f8c3d45c93141aab55b168d28c5f505/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:26:57 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Auren Hoffman</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Auren Hoffman</itunes:author>
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            <title>Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founder-hour-pat-and-posh-3blgEGdIsj5/">The Founder Hour</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f98c1edee74f46fdad7650b7641c03ec/">Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f98c1edee74f46fdad7650b7641c03ec/&notes=Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founder-hour-pat-and-posh-LO58jVsaH-J-3blgEGdIsj5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith Rabois is a Managing Director at Khosla Ventures and CEO of OpenStore, bringing over 20 years of experience as a founder, operator, and investor. At Khosla Ventures, he led early investments in DoorDash, Affirm, and Stripe, and co-founded Opendoor. Previously, at Founders Fund, he invested in Ramp, Trade Republic, and Aven, and personally invested early in YouTube, Airbnb, Palantir, Lyft, and Eventbrite. In 2023, he ranked #25 on the Forbes U.S. Midas list.</p><p>Keith has served on numerous boards, including Yelp, Xoom, and Reddit, and currently serves on the boards of Affirm, Ramp, and Trade Republic. His career began with leadership roles at PayPal, LinkedIn, and Square.</p><p>He started as a litigator at Sullivan and Cromwell after clerking for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Keith holds a bachelor's degree in political science from Stanford University and a juris doctor degree with honors from Harvard University.</p><p>***</p><p>CHA-CHING! Customers are rushing to your store. Do you have a point-of-sale system you can trust or is it (ahem) a real P.O.S.? You need Shopify for retail.</p><p>Shopify POS is your command center for your retail store. From accepting payments to managing inventory, Shopify has EVERYTHING you need to sell in person. Get hardware that fits your business. Take payments by smartphone, transform your tablet into a point-of-sale system, or use Shopify’s POS Go mobile device for a battle-tested solution.</p><p>Plus, Shopify’s award-winning help is there to support your success every step of the way.</p><p>Do retail right with Shopify. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at <a href="http://www.shopify.com/founderhour">www.shopify.com/founderhour</a>. Once again, go to <a href="http://www.shopify.com/founderhour">www.shopify.com/founderhour</a> to take your retail business to the next level today.</p><p>***</p><p>The Founder Hour is brought to you by Outer. Outer makes the world’s most beautiful, comfortable, innovative, and high-quality outdoor furniture - ALL from sustainable materials - and is the ONLY outdoor furniture with a patented built-in cover to make protecting it effortless. From teak chairs to fire pit tables, everything Outer makes has the look and feel of what you’d expect at a 5-star resort, for less than you’d pay at a big box store for something that won’t last.</p><p>For a limited time, get 10% off at <a href="www.liveouter.com/thefounderhour">www.liveouter.com/thefounderhour</a>. Terms and conditions apply.</p>
<p><p>***</p><p><strong>Follow </strong><i><strong>The Founder Hour</strong></i><strong> on:</strong></p><p>Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thefounderhour">www.instagram.com/thefounderhour</a></p><p>Twitter/X | <a href="https://www.twitter.com/thefounderhour">www.x.com/thefounderhour</a></p><p>LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/thefounderhour">www.linkedin.com/company/thefounderhour</a></p><p>YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@thefounderhour">www.youtube.com/@thefounderhour</a></p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Pat and Posh, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founder-hour-pat-and-posh-3blgEGdIsj5/">The Founder Hour</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f98c1edee74f46fdad7650b7641c03ec/">Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-06-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f98c1edee74f46fdad7650b7641c03ec/&notes=Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founder-hour-pat-and-posh-LO58jVsaH-J-3blgEGdIsj5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith Rabois is a Managing Director at Khosla Ventures and CEO of OpenStore, bringing over 20 years of experience as a founder, operator, and investor. At Khosla Ventures, he led early investments in DoorDash, Affirm, and Stripe, and co-founded Opendoor. Previously, at Founders Fund, he invested in Ramp, Trade Republic, and Aven, and personally invested early in YouTube, Airbnb, Palantir, Lyft, and Eventbrite. In 2023, he ranked #25 on the Forbes U.S. Midas list.</p><p>Keith has served on numerous boards, including Yelp, Xoom, and Reddit, and currently serves on the boards of Affirm, Ramp, and Trade Republic. His career began with leadership roles at PayPal, LinkedIn, and Square.</p><p>He started as a litigator at Sullivan and Cromwell after clerking for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Keith holds a bachelor's degree in political science from Stanford University and a juris doctor degree with honors from Harvard University.</p><p>***</p><p>CHA-CHING! Customers are rushing to your store. Do you have a point-of-sale system you can trust or is it (ahem) a real P.O.S.? You need Shopify for retail.</p><p>Shopify POS is your command center for your retail store. From accepting payments to managing inventory, Shopify has EVERYTHING you need to sell in person. Get hardware that fits your business. Take payments by smartphone, transform your tablet into a point-of-sale system, or use Shopify’s POS Go mobile device for a battle-tested solution.</p><p>Plus, Shopify’s award-winning help is there to support your success every step of the way.</p><p>Do retail right with Shopify. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at <a href="http://www.shopify.com/founderhour">www.shopify.com/founderhour</a>. Once again, go to <a href="http://www.shopify.com/founderhour">www.shopify.com/founderhour</a> to take your retail business to the next level today.</p><p>***</p><p>The Founder Hour is brought to you by Outer. Outer makes the world’s most beautiful, comfortable, innovative, and high-quality outdoor furniture - ALL from sustainable materials - and is the ONLY outdoor furniture with a patented built-in cover to make protecting it effortless. From teak chairs to fire pit tables, everything Outer makes has the look and feel of what you’d expect at a 5-star resort, for less than you’d pay at a big box store for something that won’t last.</p><p>For a limited time, get 10% off at <a href="www.liveouter.com/thefounderhour">www.liveouter.com/thefounderhour</a>. Terms and conditions apply.</p>
<p><p>***</p><p><strong>Follow </strong><i><strong>The Founder Hour</strong></i><strong> on:</strong></p><p>Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thefounderhour">www.instagram.com/thefounderhour</a></p><p>Twitter/X | <a href="https://www.twitter.com/thefounderhour">www.x.com/thefounderhour</a></p><p>LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/thefounderhour">www.linkedin.com/company/thefounderhour</a></p><p>YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@thefounderhour">www.youtube.com/@thefounderhour</a></p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Pat and Posh, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Founder Hour
Episode: Keith Rabois | Venture Capitalist and Co-Founder of Opendoor and OpenStore
Pub date: 2024-06-11

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f98c1edee74f46fdad7650b7641c03ec/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 08:46:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-thoughtful-entrepreneur-josh-elledge-LqNae3IuXUR/">The Thoughtful Entrepreneur</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/19041072b4924bb8b0508ac1334c7db9/">796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/19041072b4924bb8b0508ac1334c7db9/&notes=796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-thoughtful-entrepreneur-josh-elledge-zhNo8W57TgL-LqNae3IuXUR.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>796 - Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic's Careyann Golliver</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Josh Elledge · UpMyInfluence.com & PodVerified.com, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-thoughtful-entrepreneur-josh-elledge-LqNae3IuXUR/">The Thoughtful Entrepreneur</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/19041072b4924bb8b0508ac1334c7db9/">796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/19041072b4924bb8b0508ac1334c7db9/&notes=796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-thoughtful-entrepreneur-josh-elledge-zhNo8W57TgL-LqNae3IuXUR.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>796 - Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic's Careyann Golliver</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Josh Elledge · UpMyInfluence.com & PodVerified.com, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Thoughtful Entrepreneur
Episode: 796 – Franchises are a Business in a Box with Franchise Logic’s Careyann Golliver
Pub date: 2021-08-01

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/19041072b4924bb8b0508ac1334c7db9/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2024 18:03:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Josh Elledge · UpMyInfluence.com &amp; PodVerified.com</author>



            
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            <title>Business In A Box</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mortgage-broker-acceleration-broker-ideas-DRFuz9bIQWm/">Mortgage Broker Acceleration</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1edec0cd201148088689905dc3c2bbb6/">Business In A Box</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1edec0cd201148088689905dc3c2bbb6/&notes=Business In A Box">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mortgage-broker-acceleration-broker-ideas-IQuLq0TErZR-DRFuz9bIQWm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>There’s a key difference between being a mortgage broker and being the owner of a broking business. As a business owner, your mission is to put yourself out of a job. That means you should build your business for you, not around you. And you should be doing this from day one.<br /><br />In this episode of Mortgage Broker Acceleration, James Veigli and Ash Playsted explain how you can do this. They unpack their &quot;Business in a Box&apos;&apos; mindset, which aims to systemise everything so it doesn&apos;t rely on anybody – including you. Tune in to learn how you can achieve this nirvana of business and mortgage broking.<br /><br /><b>The Key Questions</b></p><ul><li>What is the “Business in a Box” mindset? (1:28)</li><li>When is the right time to systemise? (3:07)</li><li>How do you get started with a “Business in a Box” mindset? (7:36)</li><li>Does the “Business in a Box” mindset help you grow your team? (14:11)<br /><br /></li></ul><p><b>What You’ll Discover</b></p><ul><li>A common stumbling block for many mortgage broking business owners (10:02)</li><li>The importance of proper documentation (15:20)</li><li>The number one driver of business value and freedom (15:57)</li><li>What you achieve by putting yourself out of a job (21:04)<br /><br /></li></ul><p><b>Accelerate Faster</b></p><ul><li>You can visit <a href="https://brokerideasgroup.com.au/">Broker Ideas Group</a> to learn more about us, access special events and download useful resources designed exclusively for mortgage brokers.</li><li>Want to work with James, Ash and the BIG team to grow your mortgage business faster? Our Growth Coach team can help you. <a href="https://brokerideasgroup.com.au/lets-talk/">Let&apos;s talk!</a></li></ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Broker Ideas Group, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/mortgage-broker-acceleration-broker-ideas-DRFuz9bIQWm/">Mortgage Broker Acceleration</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1edec0cd201148088689905dc3c2bbb6/">Business In A Box</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1edec0cd201148088689905dc3c2bbb6/&notes=Business In A Box">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/mortgage-broker-acceleration-broker-ideas-IQuLq0TErZR-DRFuz9bIQWm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>There’s a key difference between being a mortgage broker and being the owner of a broking business. As a business owner, your mission is to put yourself out of a job. That means you should build your business for you, not around you. And you should be doing this from day one.<br /><br />In this episode of Mortgage Broker Acceleration, James Veigli and Ash Playsted explain how you can do this. They unpack their &quot;Business in a Box&apos;&apos; mindset, which aims to systemise everything so it doesn&apos;t rely on anybody – including you. Tune in to learn how you can achieve this nirvana of business and mortgage broking.<br /><br /><b>The Key Questions</b></p><ul><li>What is the “Business in a Box” mindset? (1:28)</li><li>When is the right time to systemise? (3:07)</li><li>How do you get started with a “Business in a Box” mindset? (7:36)</li><li>Does the “Business in a Box” mindset help you grow your team? (14:11)<br /><br /></li></ul><p><b>What You’ll Discover</b></p><ul><li>A common stumbling block for many mortgage broking business owners (10:02)</li><li>The importance of proper documentation (15:20)</li><li>The number one driver of business value and freedom (15:57)</li><li>What you achieve by putting yourself out of a job (21:04)<br /><br /></li></ul><p><b>Accelerate Faster</b></p><ul><li>You can visit <a href="https://brokerideasgroup.com.au/">Broker Ideas Group</a> to learn more about us, access special events and download useful resources designed exclusively for mortgage brokers.</li><li>Want to work with James, Ash and the BIG team to grow your mortgage business faster? Our Growth Coach team can help you. <a href="https://brokerideasgroup.com.au/lets-talk/">Let&apos;s talk!</a></li></ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Broker Ideas Group, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Mortgage Broker Acceleration
Episode: Business In A Box
Pub date: 2022-06-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/1edec0cd201148088689905dc3c2bbb6/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Broker Ideas Group, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2024 18:03:19 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Broker Ideas Group</author>



            
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            <title>Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ba5c79818184843bc5a880069b8b92f</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/millionaire-mindcast-matt-aitchison-Cf0oTbsG8y5/">Millionaire Mindcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ba5c79818184843bc5a880069b8b92f/">Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4ba5c79818184843bc5a880069b8b92f/&notes=Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/millionaire-mindcast-matt-aitchison-Wr-2lhVEXny-Cf0oTbsG8y5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p dir="ltr">In this episode of the Millionaire Mindcast, we have a stellar guest, Mike Dehaan who imparts a ton of valuable insights around real estate wholesaling, the effective wholesaling sales and marketing process, the mindset around building a successful Virtual Assistant Team, and building a successful real estate business that making millions while getting more freedom in life!</p> <p dir="ltr">Mike Dehaan is an entrepreneur, a real estate investor, lead generation master, systems specialist, host of the Collecting Keys Podcast, and the owner of Collecting Keys LLC, Backyard Home Buyers, and INW Properties, a real estate service company based out of Spokane, WA that specialize in buying properties for cash throughout the Inland Northwest. The properties they purchase are primarily restored with lasting quality and made available for lease.</p> <p dir="ltr">Real estate stuff is never on Mike’s radar. After spending 5 years as a corporate engineer, he quit his engineering career in 2018. He spent the following 2 years studying real estate investing and business to start an investing venture. At that time, he found a major skill set and passion in building scalable repeatable systems that creates disruption in the real estate wholesaling space. Since 2020, Mike has made from 0 to 200 real estate deals in 3 years. Currently, he is working to productize the wholesale business system and process that anyone can benefit from.</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Some Questions I Ask:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Where did these real estate, investing, entrepreneurship, and/or professional careers start for you?</p> <p dir="ltr">What do you think the problems are of wholesaling in the industry as a whole?</p> <p dir="ltr">By partnering with the right people, how can you guys allow them to accelerate getting to a place of profitability and the benefits of having a really strong sales and marketing process?</p> <p dir="ltr">How have you approached building such a successful Virtual Assistant Team?</p> <p dir="ltr">What do you think some of the people that have failed with Virtual Assistant Teams are overlooking and might need to revisit?</p> <p dir="ltr">Who is the ideal partner for your company? How do you go about identifying who the right person is and what the right market looks like?</p> <p dir="ltr">What does the startup investment look like for this wholesaling system?</p> <p dir="ltr">What is your vision as you see your company taking off?</p> <p dir="ltr">Is this something that only applies to single-family or is there a commercial aspect and approach that you guys have been exploring and providing as well?</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>In This Episode, You Will Learn:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">The effective step-by-step sales and marketing process.</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Connect with Mike Dehaan on:&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/">Collecting Keys Podcast</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/partner">https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/partner</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/">Instagram</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-dehaan-20a27b63/">LinkedIn</a></p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Sponsor Links:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.gobundance.com/">GoBundance</a>&nbsp; - Text: "MILLIONAIRE" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.indochino.com/">Indochino</a>: Get 10% off of any purchase on $399 or more with the promo code: MINDCAST</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.backblaze.com/landing/podcast-mindcast">BackBlaze</a>: Click the link to start your fully featured 15-day free trial or use the promo code: MINDCAST&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Accredited Investor List - Text "DEALS" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Free Financial Audit: Text "XRAY" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Upcoming Events: Text "Events" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Millionaire Notes: Text "Notes" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Connect with Matty A. and Text me to 844.447.1555&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr">Show Brought To You By: <a href="http://www.millionairemindcast.com/">www.MillionaireMindcast.com</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Questions? Comments? Do you have a success story you would like to share on the show?&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr">Send us an email to: Questions@MillionaireMindcast.com</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Matt Aitchison, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/millionaire-mindcast-matt-aitchison-Cf0oTbsG8y5/">Millionaire Mindcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ba5c79818184843bc5a880069b8b92f/">Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4ba5c79818184843bc5a880069b8b92f/&notes=Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/millionaire-mindcast-matt-aitchison-Wr-2lhVEXny-Cf0oTbsG8y5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p dir="ltr">In this episode of the Millionaire Mindcast, we have a stellar guest, Mike Dehaan who imparts a ton of valuable insights around real estate wholesaling, the effective wholesaling sales and marketing process, the mindset around building a successful Virtual Assistant Team, and building a successful real estate business that making millions while getting more freedom in life!</p> <p dir="ltr">Mike Dehaan is an entrepreneur, a real estate investor, lead generation master, systems specialist, host of the Collecting Keys Podcast, and the owner of Collecting Keys LLC, Backyard Home Buyers, and INW Properties, a real estate service company based out of Spokane, WA that specialize in buying properties for cash throughout the Inland Northwest. The properties they purchase are primarily restored with lasting quality and made available for lease.</p> <p dir="ltr">Real estate stuff is never on Mike’s radar. After spending 5 years as a corporate engineer, he quit his engineering career in 2018. He spent the following 2 years studying real estate investing and business to start an investing venture. At that time, he found a major skill set and passion in building scalable repeatable systems that creates disruption in the real estate wholesaling space. Since 2020, Mike has made from 0 to 200 real estate deals in 3 years. Currently, he is working to productize the wholesale business system and process that anyone can benefit from.</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Some Questions I Ask:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Where did these real estate, investing, entrepreneurship, and/or professional careers start for you?</p> <p dir="ltr">What do you think the problems are of wholesaling in the industry as a whole?</p> <p dir="ltr">By partnering with the right people, how can you guys allow them to accelerate getting to a place of profitability and the benefits of having a really strong sales and marketing process?</p> <p dir="ltr">How have you approached building such a successful Virtual Assistant Team?</p> <p dir="ltr">What do you think some of the people that have failed with Virtual Assistant Teams are overlooking and might need to revisit?</p> <p dir="ltr">Who is the ideal partner for your company? How do you go about identifying who the right person is and what the right market looks like?</p> <p dir="ltr">What does the startup investment look like for this wholesaling system?</p> <p dir="ltr">What is your vision as you see your company taking off?</p> <p dir="ltr">Is this something that only applies to single-family or is there a commercial aspect and approach that you guys have been exploring and providing as well?</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>In This Episode, You Will Learn:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">The effective step-by-step sales and marketing process.</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Connect with Mike Dehaan on:&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/">Collecting Keys Podcast</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/partner">https://www.collectingkeyspodcast.com/partner</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/">Instagram</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-dehaan-20a27b63/">LinkedIn</a></p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Sponsor Links:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.gobundance.com/">GoBundance</a>&nbsp; - Text: "MILLIONAIRE" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.indochino.com/">Indochino</a>: Get 10% off of any purchase on $399 or more with the promo code: MINDCAST</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.backblaze.com/landing/podcast-mindcast">BackBlaze</a>: Click the link to start your fully featured 15-day free trial or use the promo code: MINDCAST&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Accredited Investor List - Text "DEALS" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Free Financial Audit: Text "XRAY" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Upcoming Events: Text "Events" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Millionaire Notes: Text "Notes" to 844.447.1555</p> <p dir="ltr">Connect with Matty A. and Text me to 844.447.1555&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p dir="ltr">Show Brought To You By: <a href="http://www.millionairemindcast.com/">www.MillionaireMindcast.com</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Questions? 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Episode: Revolutionizing Wholesale Real Estate - Your Step-by-Step Guide to Building a Successful Real Estate Business in a Box That Makes Millions | Mike DeHaan
Pub date: 2023-03-13

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            <title>An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-specializationtm-podcast-corey-quinn-yKJTdwNOkji/">The Deep Specialization™ Podcast</a> (LS 34 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7172143122504711b8eb65cb4ddc8bbd/">An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7172143122504711b8eb65cb4ddc8bbd/&notes=An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-specializationtm-podcast-corey-quinn-SBomku8NKyi-yKJTdwNOkji.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"The average small business uses over three dozen different pieces of software to run different aspects of their business."</span>&nbsp; – Jeff Tomlin, <span style="font-weight: 400;">Co-Founder &amp; CMO of Vendasta</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you had to summarize Vendasta’s marketplace for small and medium sized agencies, it would be, in Jeff’s words, “Business in a box”.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p>Vendasta gives 80k+ agencies a full-stack platform to rebrand and resell online services to local business clients, granting them the scalability of a SaaS recurring revenue model. Simplifying operations, the company lets agencies acquire, retain, expand and manage clients all in one place, removing many of the pain points agencies face as they’re looking to grow their business.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff joins The Deep Specialization Podcast to share his 17-year founder journey, going from building solutions for the media vertical and reputation management software to shaping up what Vendasta is known for today: a central online growth hub for agencies.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff and Corey dive into topics like finding product fit, building Vendasta, successes and failures, as well as invaluable leadership lessons accumulated along the way.</span></p>
<p><strong>Here’s what we cover in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Vendasta’s 17-year journey and Jeff’s background.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Typical inefficiencies in running a small business tech stack at an agency.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">The audacious goal Jeff’s team is working towards.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Differentiation and positioning.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Here are some actionable key takeaways for agency founders:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>If you’re offering solutions, building a suite can 3x retention rates.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">As you grow, be mindful of your growing tech stack and how to manage it.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Embrace agility as a young organization, and don’t be afraid to fail.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Don’t get caught up in the minutia of operations, build workflows with tech, instead.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The resources mentioned in this episode are:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtomlin/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here</span></a></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Check out Vendasta </span><a href="https://www.vendasta.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">👍If you liked this episode, please rate and review us on </span><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-vertical-go-to-market-podcast/id1669305312"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and be sure to hit the subscribe button! 🔔</span></p>
<p>😩 Feeling stuck trying to stand out in a noisy market? I’d love to give you my free crash course that will help you go from “just another generalist” to a go-to expert people seek out.</p>
<p>In just a few short days, you’ll learn how to position yourself with clarity, authority, and focus.</p>
<p>➡️ Sign up here:<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="https://deepspecializationcourse.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deepspecializationcourse.com</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Corey Quinn, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-specializationtm-podcast-corey-quinn-yKJTdwNOkji/">The Deep Specialization™ Podcast</a> (LS 34 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7172143122504711b8eb65cb4ddc8bbd/">An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7172143122504711b8eb65cb4ddc8bbd/&notes=An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-specializationtm-podcast-corey-quinn-SBomku8NKyi-yKJTdwNOkji.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"The average small business uses over three dozen different pieces of software to run different aspects of their business."</span>&nbsp; – Jeff Tomlin, <span style="font-weight: 400;">Co-Founder &amp; CMO of Vendasta</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you had to summarize Vendasta’s marketplace for small and medium sized agencies, it would be, in Jeff’s words, “Business in a box”.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p>Vendasta gives 80k+ agencies a full-stack platform to rebrand and resell online services to local business clients, granting them the scalability of a SaaS recurring revenue model. Simplifying operations, the company lets agencies acquire, retain, expand and manage clients all in one place, removing many of the pain points agencies face as they’re looking to grow their business.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff joins The Deep Specialization Podcast to share his 17-year founder journey, going from building solutions for the media vertical and reputation management software to shaping up what Vendasta is known for today: a central online growth hub for agencies.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff and Corey dive into topics like finding product fit, building Vendasta, successes and failures, as well as invaluable leadership lessons accumulated along the way.</span></p>
<p><strong>Here’s what we cover in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Vendasta’s 17-year journey and Jeff’s background.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Typical inefficiencies in running a small business tech stack at an agency.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">The audacious goal Jeff’s team is working towards.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Differentiation and positioning.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Here are some actionable key takeaways for agency founders:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>If you’re offering solutions, building a suite can 3x retention rates.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">As you grow, be mindful of your growing tech stack and how to manage it.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Embrace agility as a young organization, and don’t be afraid to fail.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Don’t get caught up in the minutia of operations, build workflows with tech, instead.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The resources mentioned in this episode are:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtomlin/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here</span></a></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Check out Vendasta </span><a href="https://www.vendasta.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">👍If you liked this episode, please rate and review us on </span><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-vertical-go-to-market-podcast/id1669305312"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Apple Podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and be sure to hit the subscribe button! 🔔</span></p>
<p>😩 Feeling stuck trying to stand out in a noisy market? I’d love to give you my free crash course that will help you go from “just another generalist” to a go-to expert people seek out.</p>
<p>In just a few short days, you’ll learn how to position yourself with clarity, authority, and focus.</p>
<p>➡️ Sign up here:<span>&nbsp;</span><a href="https://deepspecializationcourse.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deepspecializationcourse.com</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Corey Quinn, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: An Agency Business in a Box w/ Jeff Tomlin
Pub date: 2024-05-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7172143122504711b8eb65cb4ddc8bbd/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Corey Quinn, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>The Agency That Serves You With A Business In A Box - David, Kenn &amp; Derrick #395</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/social-proof-podcast-social-proof-network-xja_7YdMVwA/">Social Proof Podcast</a> (LS 60 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/569113148aaa4471b40b719818201fa6/">The Agency That Serves You With A Business In A Box - David, Kenn & Derrick #395</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-09-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/569113148aaa4471b40b719818201fa6/&notes=The Agency That Serves You With A Business In A Box - David, Kenn & Derrick #395">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/social-proof-podcast-social-proof-network-YIfF8MQr_bg-xja_7YdMVwA.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Join Our Business in a Box Program: https://www.vastaffingacademy.com/socialproof</p><p>Kenn Collier:</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/kenncollier/</p><p>Derrick Harper Sr:.</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/derrickharpersr/</p><p><br /></p><p>These strategies for content creation and building a following are a must watch!!!</p><p>Get Your Payroll System for FREE with ADP and save $250 using this link👇🏾</p><p>👉🏾 http://adp.com/socialproof</p><p><br /></p><p>In episode #394 of the Social Proof Podcast, David discusses with Kenn and Derrick the importance of outsourcing and how it can benefit businesses. They share their experiences of outsourcing customer service to the Philippines and development work to India. They also introduce the concept of hiring virtual assistants (VAs) and offer a solution for finding and recruiting the best VAs for your business. The hosts emphasize the convenience of having a recruitment team handle the hiring process, allowing businesses to focus on acquiring clients. Tune in to hear more about the benefits of outsourcing and how it can help businesses thrive.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>👉🏾Join The Podcast Community - https://www.my7figurepodcast.com/</p><p><br /></p><p>👉🏾 Join the Morning Meetup - http://www.themorningmeetup.com⁣</p><p>*** Grab the Podcast EBOOK👇🏾 **</p><p><br /></p><p>http://www.podcastebook.com</p><p><br /></p><p>GO SUBSCRIBE to The Brain Picker Podcast on All Streaming Platforms!!</p><p><br /></p><p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/social-proof-podcast/id1374373035</p><p><br /></p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6GT6VgjBy0zviALR8xkRe1?si=82LcP8siQXGVHb2ibg5axA&amp;nd=1</p><p><br /></p><p>Six Figure EDU:</p><p>https://www.sixfigureacceleratoredu.com/home</p><p><br /></p><p>Actionable CEO:</p><p>https://www.actionableceo.com/enroll</p><p><br /></p><p>Post To Paid:</p><p>Text “Post To Paid” to 404-737-2767</p><p><br /></p><p>Donni on IG : https://www.instagram.com/donniwiggins_/</p><p><br /></p><p>David on IG : http://www.instagram.com/sleepis4suckers</p><p><br /></p><p>NOTE: I am a Brand Ambassador and affiliate for certain businesses, products and services that I believe in. I may have referenced these and included links in this video, description or someplace else at this site. I hope you find the resources helpful.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Copyright, Liability Waiver and Disclaimers. All rights reserved.</p><p><br /></p><p>No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, except as permitted under the United States Copyright Act, and/or without the prior express written permission of David Shands, LLC, The Real Social Proof, LLC and/or David Shands.</p><p><br /></p><p>Limit of Liability/Disclaimer of Warranty: While all persons associated directly or indirectly with this site and video use their best efforts in preparing the content, there is no express or implied representations or warranty with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the content of the videos, including any content, links or resources shared, including those by third parties. Furthermore, all parties specifically disclaim any and all express or implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p>The advice and strategies contained herein may not be suitable for your situation. No legal or investment advice is being given herein. You should consult with a professional where appropriate and before any action is taken on this video. No liability or damages shall take place because of this video and/or content. Furthermore, your use of this site and watching these videos confirms your agreement that Georgia or Delaware law applies to all disputes relating to this site and videos and, venue for all claims and disputes relating to this site and videos shall be in Atlanta, Ga.</p><p><br /></p><p>The information provided at this web site and all related platforms, services, newsletters, blogs, emails, messages, audios, videos, and all other traditional and digital communications, and social media platforms including, but not limited to Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Instagram, Snapchat, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, Pinterest, blockchain related including cryptocurrency, non-fungible tokens (NFTs), other blockchain projects, synthetic media, and all others, IS NOT LEGAL, FINANCIAL, INVESTMENT OR BUSINESS ADVICE.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>00:00:39 Hiring Virtual Assistants</p><p>00:03:11 Trying to manage it all.</p><p>00:08:52 Hiring passionate virtual assistants.</p><p>00:11:19 Low wages in the Philippines.</p><p>00:13:36 VA's investing in rental properties.</p><p>00:17:39 AI development in India.</p><p>00:22:31 The first year in business.</p><p>00:24:26 Contracts and labor protection.</p><p>00:27:55 VA success stories.</p><p>00:30:25 Hiring the right team.</p><p>00:33:26 Building a podcast production agency.</p><p>00:37:02 VAs and avoiding hard work.</p><p>00:41:03 VA recruitment strategies.</p><p>00:43:58 Attracting VAs with unique benefits.</p><p>00:47:12 The rise of virtual assistants.</p><p>00:50:05 Accent reduction training.</p><p>00:52:09 Building an agency partnership.</p><p>00:57:31 MaxiCare insurance company.</p><p>00:58:59 Toilet millionaire.</p><p>01:02:08 Personalized communication with audience.</p><p>01:05:23 The power of podcasting.</p><p>01:08:05 Virtual Assistant companies.</p><p>01:11:07 Building a successful business.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>#entrepreneur #smallbusiness #podcast #howto #virtualassistant</p><br /><br />Advertising Inquiries: <a href="https://redcircle.com/brands">https://redcircle.com/brands</a><br /><br />Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href="https://redcircle.com/privacy">https://redcircle.com/privacy</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Social Proof Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/social-proof-podcast-social-proof-network-xja_7YdMVwA/">Social Proof Podcast</a> (LS 60 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/569113148aaa4471b40b719818201fa6/">The Agency That Serves You With A Business In A Box - David, Kenn & Derrick #395</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-09-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/569113148aaa4471b40b719818201fa6/&notes=The Agency That Serves You With A Business In A Box - David, Kenn & Derrick #395">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/social-proof-podcast-social-proof-network-YIfF8MQr_bg-xja_7YdMVwA.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Join Our Business in a Box Program: https://www.vastaffingacademy.com/socialproof</p><p>Kenn Collier:</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/kenncollier/</p><p>Derrick Harper Sr:.</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/derrickharpersr/</p><p><br /></p><p>These strategies for content creation and building a following are a must watch!!!</p><p>Get Your Payroll System for FREE with ADP and save $250 using this link👇🏾</p><p>👉🏾 http://adp.com/socialproof</p><p><br /></p><p>In episode #394 of the Social Proof Podcast, David discusses with Kenn and Derrick the importance of outsourcing and how it can benefit businesses. They share their experiences of outsourcing customer service to the Philippines and development work to India. They also introduce the concept of hiring virtual assistants (VAs) and offer a solution for finding and recruiting the best VAs for your business. The hosts emphasize the convenience of having a recruitment team handle the hiring process, allowing businesses to focus on acquiring clients. Tune in to hear more about the benefits of outsourcing and how it can help businesses thrive.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>👉🏾Join The Podcast Community - https://www.my7figurepodcast.com/</p><p><br /></p><p>👉🏾 Join the Morning Meetup - http://www.themorningmeetup.com⁣</p><p>*** Grab the Podcast EBOOK👇🏾 **</p><p><br /></p><p>http://www.podcastebook.com</p><p><br /></p><p>GO SUBSCRIBE to The Brain Picker Podcast on All Streaming Platforms!!</p><p><br /></p><p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/social-proof-podcast/id1374373035</p><p><br /></p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6GT6VgjBy0zviALR8xkRe1?si=82LcP8siQXGVHb2ibg5axA&amp;nd=1</p><p><br /></p><p>Six Figure EDU:</p><p>https://www.sixfigureacceleratoredu.com/home</p><p><br /></p><p>Actionable CEO:</p><p>https://www.actionableceo.com/enroll</p><p><br /></p><p>Post To Paid:</p><p>Text “Post To Paid” to 404-737-2767</p><p><br /></p><p>Donni on IG : https://www.instagram.com/donniwiggins_/</p><p><br /></p><p>David on IG : http://www.instagram.com/sleepis4suckers</p><p><br /></p><p>NOTE: I am a Brand Ambassador and affiliate for certain businesses, products and services that I believe in. I may have referenced these and included links in this video, description or someplace else at this site. I hope you find the resources helpful.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Copyright, Liability Waiver and Disclaimers. All rights reserved.</p><p><br /></p><p>No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, except as permitted under the United States Copyright Act, and/or without the prior express written permission of David Shands, LLC, The Real Social Proof, LLC and/or David Shands.</p><p><br /></p><p>Limit of Liability/Disclaimer of Warranty: While all persons associated directly or indirectly with this site and video use their best efforts in preparing the content, there is no express or implied representations or warranty with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the content of the videos, including any content, links or resources shared, including those by third parties. Furthermore, all parties specifically disclaim any and all express or implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p>The advice and strategies contained herein may not be suitable for your situation. No legal or investment advice is being given herein. You should consult with a professional where appropriate and before any action is taken on this video. No liability or damages shall take place because of this video and/or content. Furthermore, your use of this site and watching these videos confirms your agreement that Georgia or Delaware law applies to all disputes relating to this site and videos and, venue for all claims and disputes relating to this site and videos shall be in Atlanta, Ga.</p><p><br /></p><p>The information provided at this web site and all related platforms, services, newsletters, blogs, emails, messages, audios, videos, and all other traditional and digital communications, and social media platforms including, but not limited to Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Instagram, Snapchat, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, Pinterest, blockchain related including cryptocurrency, non-fungible tokens (NFTs), other blockchain projects, synthetic media, and all others, IS NOT LEGAL, FINANCIAL, INVESTMENT OR BUSINESS ADVICE.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>00:00:39 Hiring Virtual Assistants</p><p>00:03:11 Trying to manage it all.</p><p>00:08:52 Hiring passionate virtual assistants.</p><p>00:11:19 Low wages in the Philippines.</p><p>00:13:36 VA's investing in rental properties.</p><p>00:17:39 AI development in India.</p><p>00:22:31 The first year in business.</p><p>00:24:26 Contracts and labor protection.</p><p>00:27:55 VA success stories.</p><p>00:30:25 Hiring the right team.</p><p>00:33:26 Building a podcast production agency.</p><p>00:37:02 VAs and avoiding hard work.</p><p>00:41:03 VA recruitment strategies.</p><p>00:43:58 Attracting VAs with unique benefits.</p><p>00:47:12 The rise of virtual assistants.</p><p>00:50:05 Accent reduction training.</p><p>00:52:09 Building an agency partnership.</p><p>00:57:31 MaxiCare insurance company.</p><p>00:58:59 Toilet millionaire.</p><p>01:02:08 Personalized communication with audience.</p><p>01:05:23 The power of podcasting.</p><p>01:08:05 Virtual Assistant companies.</p><p>01:11:07 Building a successful business.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>#entrepreneur #smallbusiness #podcast #howto #virtualassistant</p><br /><br />Advertising Inquiries: <a href="https://redcircle.com/brands">https://redcircle.com/brands</a><br /><br />Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href="https://redcircle.com/privacy">https://redcircle.com/privacy</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Social Proof Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/blocked-and-reported-katie-herzog-and-jesse-7PAK3ds6-yw/">Blocked and Reported</a> (LS 65 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9c77a995be6443518cf196095c97db05/">Episode 107: Mormons and Furries and Babies, Oh My!</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9c77a995be6443518cf196095c97db05/&notes=Episode 107: Mormons and Furries and Babies, Oh My!">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/blocked-and-reported-katie-herzog-and-jesse-FZPzv7c62T1-7PAK3ds6-yw.200x200.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jesse is wandering around Cuba looking for internet so our extremely online podcast apprentice <a href="https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains" target="_blank">Tracing Woodgrains</a> steps up to the mic. Discussed: Mormonism, furries, cultural appropriation, cultural gatekeeping, and Dave Rubin’s miracle babies. To discuss this episode with other premium subscribers, click <a href="https://www.blockedandreported.org/p/discussion-thread-for-episode-107?s=w" target="_blank">here</a>. </p><p><strong>The problematic fursuit:</strong> </p><p><strong>The </strong><a href="https://archive.ph/66Hlb" target="_blank"><strong>response</strong></a><strong> to the problematic fursuit:</strong></p><p><strong>The response to the response to the problematic fursuit:</strong> </p><p><strong>Glenn Beck responds to Dave Rubin’s big news:</strong> </p><p><strong><em>Rubin Report</em></strong><strong> guest discovers Dave Rubin is gay:</strong> </p><p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://unherd.com/thepost/dave-rubin-why-the-intellectual-dark-web-split-up/" target="_blank"><strong>Dave Rubin: Why the ‘Intellectual Dark Web’ Split Up” by Freddie Sayers</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2022/03/21/dave-rubin-is-being-rejected-by-his-own-audience/" target="_blank"><strong>“Dave Rubin Is Being Rejected By His Own Audience” by Dani Di Placido</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><a href="https://unherd.com/thepost/where-are-dave-rubins-babies-coming-from/" target="_blank"><strong>“Where are Dave Rubin's babies coming from?” by Mary Harrington</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://thecritic.co.uk/end-womb-trafficking/" target="_blank"><strong>“End Womb Trafficking” by Julie Bindel</strong></a><strong> </strong></p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/blocked-and-reported-katie-herzog-and-jesse-7PAK3ds6-yw/">Blocked and Reported</a> (LS 65 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9c77a995be6443518cf196095c97db05/">Episode 107: Mormons and Furries and Babies, Oh My!</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9c77a995be6443518cf196095c97db05/&notes=Episode 107: Mormons and Furries and Babies, Oh My!">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/blocked-and-reported-katie-herzog-and-jesse-FZPzv7c62T1-7PAK3ds6-yw.200x200.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jesse is wandering around Cuba looking for internet so our extremely online podcast apprentice <a href="https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains" target="_blank">Tracing Woodgrains</a> steps up to the mic. Discussed: Mormonism, furries, cultural appropriation, cultural gatekeeping, and Dave Rubin’s miracle babies. To discuss this episode with other premium subscribers, click <a href="https://www.blockedandreported.org/p/discussion-thread-for-episode-107?s=w" target="_blank">here</a>. </p><p><strong>The problematic fursuit:</strong> </p><p><strong>The </strong><a href="https://archive.ph/66Hlb" target="_blank"><strong>response</strong></a><strong> to the problematic fursuit:</strong></p><p><strong>The response to the response to the problematic fursuit:</strong> </p><p><strong>Glenn Beck responds to Dave Rubin’s big news:</strong> </p><p><strong><em>Rubin Report</em></strong><strong> guest discovers Dave Rubin is gay:</strong> </p><p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://unherd.com/thepost/dave-rubin-why-the-intellectual-dark-web-split-up/" target="_blank"><strong>Dave Rubin: Why the ‘Intellectual Dark Web’ Split Up” by Freddie Sayers</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2022/03/21/dave-rubin-is-being-rejected-by-his-own-audience/" target="_blank"><strong>“Dave Rubin Is Being Rejected By His Own Audience” by Dani Di Placido</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><a href="https://unherd.com/thepost/where-are-dave-rubins-babies-coming-from/" target="_blank"><strong>“Where are Dave Rubin's babies coming from?” by Mary Harrington</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://thecritic.co.uk/end-womb-trafficking/" target="_blank"><strong>“End Womb Trafficking” by Julie Bindel</strong></a><strong> </strong></p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <title>#053 Brandon Hendrickson on Making Education Engaging</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/contraminds-podcast-unlocking-personal-JHxf-59OR8u/">ContraMinds Podcast - Unlocking Personal Growth and Professional Excellence</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/65e41b9539bc419da1957bb29c4ed5f2/">#053 Brandon Hendrickson on Making Education Engaging</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/65e41b9539bc419da1957bb29c4ed5f2/&notes=#053 Brandon Hendrickson on Making Education Engaging">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/contraminds-podcast-unlocking-personal-N2YIOhtLEr4-JHxf-59OR8u.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2506263/fan_mail/new" target="_blank">Let's know what you liked and learnt! </a></p><p>Making Education Engaging: A Journey of DiscoveryBrandon Hendrickson credits Kieran Egan as a significant influence on his educational philosophy. Diagnosed with ADHD, Brandon found traditional schooling uninspiring until he encountered Egan’s work, which revolutionized his approach to teaching and learning. Egan’s perspective on education, emphasizing the importance of making learning emotionally engaging and relevant, resonated deeply with Brandon. This new outlook led him to prioritize understanding and curiosity over mere academic performance, fostering a love for learning in both himself and his students.Watch the video episode on YouTube.About BrandonBrandon Hendrickson is the founder of Science is WEIRD (https://www.scienceisweird.com/) — a startup that’s developing a new approach to science education. At Science is Weird, they&apos;re building a progression of courses that rockets kids to a full, up-to-date understanding of science — from the subatomic to the intergalactic.Brandon also writes at The Lost Tools of Learning (https://losttools.substack.com/).Five key takeaways from this conversation:1. Importance of Making Learning Matter: The most crucial element in education is making subjects matter to students. When a topic resonates emotionally, students are more likely to engage deeply, remember, and understand it.2. Integration of Stories and Logic in Education: Egan&apos;s educational philosophy emphasizes the integration of stories and logic. While traditional education focuses on logic and facts, Egan believes in using stories to make learning engaging and memorable.3. Holistic and Interconnected Curriculum: Effective education should present subjects as interconnected. Understanding how disciplines like physics, chemistry, and biology relate to each other helps students see the bigger picture and appreciate the complexity of the world.4. Role of Teachers, School Founders, and Parents: Each stakeholder has a unique role in making education meaningful. Teachers should focus on making lessons emotionally engaging, school founders should design curricula that integrate Egan&apos;s principles, and parents should foster an environment that encourages curiosity and love for learning.5. Potential of Modern Educational Tools: With advancements in technology, such as LLM AIs and online educational resources, there is now a greater opportunity to create the best educational systems ever. These tools can help tailor education to individual needs and make learning more accessible and engaging.Brandon on LinkedIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hendrickson-36270b20/Swami on LinkedIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivaraman-swaminathan-9856501/For Show Notes, visit https://www.contraminds.comThis episode was made possible by the great folks at Effortless.Effortless has been designed to be user-friendly, aiding you in your journey to streamline financial tasks. Experience the convenience of achieving e-Invoicing and E-way Bill Generation in just a couple of clicks, simplifying your business processes.Visit www.goeffortless.ai to learn more.</p><p>🔗 Links &amp; Resources:<br />ContraMinds: https://www.contraminds.com<br />Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://blog.contraminds.com<br /><br />🎧 Listen on Podcast Platforms:<br />Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4xceASphmwAjJONTlsvo2Y<br />Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/contraminds-decoding-people-minds-strategy-and-culture/id1485202972<br /><br />Follow ContraMinds:<br />Twitter: https://twitter.com/contraminds<br />Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contraminds/<br />LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/contraminds<br />Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/contraminds</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Swami, ContraMinds Labs, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/contraminds-podcast-unlocking-personal-JHxf-59OR8u/">ContraMinds Podcast - Unlocking Personal Growth and Professional Excellence</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/65e41b9539bc419da1957bb29c4ed5f2/">#053 Brandon Hendrickson on Making Education Engaging</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-05-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/65e41b9539bc419da1957bb29c4ed5f2/&notes=#053 Brandon Hendrickson on Making Education Engaging">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/contraminds-podcast-unlocking-personal-N2YIOhtLEr4-JHxf-59OR8u.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2506263/fan_mail/new" target="_blank">Let's know what you liked and learnt! </a></p><p>Making Education Engaging: A Journey of DiscoveryBrandon Hendrickson credits Kieran Egan as a significant influence on his educational philosophy. Diagnosed with ADHD, Brandon found traditional schooling uninspiring until he encountered Egan’s work, which revolutionized his approach to teaching and learning. Egan’s perspective on education, emphasizing the importance of making learning emotionally engaging and relevant, resonated deeply with Brandon. This new outlook led him to prioritize understanding and curiosity over mere academic performance, fostering a love for learning in both himself and his students.Watch the video episode on YouTube.About BrandonBrandon Hendrickson is the founder of Science is WEIRD (https://www.scienceisweird.com/) — a startup that’s developing a new approach to science education. At Science is Weird, they&apos;re building a progression of courses that rockets kids to a full, up-to-date understanding of science — from the subatomic to the intergalactic.Brandon also writes at The Lost Tools of Learning (https://losttools.substack.com/).Five key takeaways from this conversation:1. Importance of Making Learning Matter: The most crucial element in education is making subjects matter to students. When a topic resonates emotionally, students are more likely to engage deeply, remember, and understand it.2. Integration of Stories and Logic in Education: Egan&apos;s educational philosophy emphasizes the integration of stories and logic. While traditional education focuses on logic and facts, Egan believes in using stories to make learning engaging and memorable.3. Holistic and Interconnected Curriculum: Effective education should present subjects as interconnected. Understanding how disciplines like physics, chemistry, and biology relate to each other helps students see the bigger picture and appreciate the complexity of the world.4. Role of Teachers, School Founders, and Parents: Each stakeholder has a unique role in making education meaningful. Teachers should focus on making lessons emotionally engaging, school founders should design curricula that integrate Egan&apos;s principles, and parents should foster an environment that encourages curiosity and love for learning.5. Potential of Modern Educational Tools: With advancements in technology, such as LLM AIs and online educational resources, there is now a greater opportunity to create the best educational systems ever. These tools can help tailor education to individual needs and make learning more accessible and engaging.Brandon on LinkedIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-hendrickson-36270b20/Swami on LinkedIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivaraman-swaminathan-9856501/For Show Notes, visit https://www.contraminds.comThis episode was made possible by the great folks at Effortless.Effortless has been designed to be user-friendly, aiding you in your journey to streamline financial tasks. Experience the convenience of achieving e-Invoicing and E-way Bill Generation in just a couple of clicks, simplifying your business processes.Visit www.goeffortless.ai to learn more.</p><p>🔗 Links &amp; Resources:<br />ContraMinds: https://www.contraminds.com<br />Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://blog.contraminds.com<br /><br />🎧 Listen on Podcast Platforms:<br />Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4xceASphmwAjJONTlsvo2Y<br />Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/contraminds-decoding-people-minds-strategy-and-culture/id1485202972<br /><br />Follow ContraMinds:<br />Twitter: https://twitter.com/contraminds<br />Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contraminds/<br />LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/contraminds<br />Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/contraminds</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Swami, ContraMinds Labs, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-capitalism-and-freedom-in-the-twenty-v7VZwsGnlYD/">The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2a415daa32fd42be99b3bb19bf6d0ef1/">Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2a415daa32fd42be99b3bb19bf6d0ef1/&notes=Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-capitalism-and-freedom-in-the-twenty-YoiNvc3ItKw-v7VZwsGnlYD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Steven D. Levitt (<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/12343/9780063032378"><em>Freakonomics</em></a> co-author and University of Chicago Economics Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career, including being an early leader in applied microeconomics and how the Freakonomics media empire got started, along with his recent decision to retire from academic economics.</p>
<p>Transcript available <a href="https://capitalismandfreedom.substack.com/p/episode-28-steven-d-levitt-freakonomics">here</a>. </p>
<p><em>﻿</em><a href="http://www.jonathanhartley.net/"><em>Jon Hartley</em></a><em> is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor economics and is currently an economics PhD student at </em><a href="https://www.stanford.edu/"><em>Stanford University</em></a><em>. He is also currently a Research Fellow at the </em><a href="https://freopp.org/the-freopp-scholar-jon-hartley-e0e9666ac942"><em>Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity</em></a><em>, a Senior Fellow at the </em><a href="https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/cm-expert/jon-hartley/"><em>Macdonald-Laurier Institute</em></a><em>, and a research associate at the </em><a href="https://www.hoover.org/"><em>Hoover Institution</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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<p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jon Hartley, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-capitalism-and-freedom-in-the-twenty-v7VZwsGnlYD/">The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2a415daa32fd42be99b3bb19bf6d0ef1/">Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2a415daa32fd42be99b3bb19bf6d0ef1/&notes=Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-capitalism-and-freedom-in-the-twenty-YoiNvc3ItKw-v7VZwsGnlYD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Steven D. Levitt (<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/12343/9780063032378"><em>Freakonomics</em></a> co-author and University of Chicago Economics Professor) joins the podcast to discuss his career, including being an early leader in applied microeconomics and how the Freakonomics media empire got started, along with his recent decision to retire from academic economics.</p>
<p>Transcript available <a href="https://capitalismandfreedom.substack.com/p/episode-28-steven-d-levitt-freakonomics">here</a>. </p>
<p><em>﻿</em><a href="http://www.jonathanhartley.net/"><em>Jon Hartley</em></a><em> is an economics researcher with interests in international macroeconomics, finance, and labor economics and is currently an economics PhD student at </em><a href="https://www.stanford.edu/"><em>Stanford University</em></a><em>. He is also currently a Research Fellow at the </em><a href="https://freopp.org/the-freopp-scholar-jon-hartley-e0e9666ac942"><em>Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity</em></a><em>, a Senior Fellow at the </em><a href="https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/cm-expert/jon-hartley/"><em>Macdonald-Laurier Institute</em></a><em>, and a research associate at the </em><a href="https://www.hoover.org/"><em>Hoover Institution</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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Podcast: The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast
Episode: Steven D. Levitt (Freakonomics co-author and U Chicago Econ Prof) on His Career and Decision to Retire From Academic Economics
Pub date: 2024-03-13

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2a415daa32fd42be99b3bb19bf6d0ef1/

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            <title>Tyler Cowen</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/e6e7ebf3b6df4bfba21b525e34f866b5</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/undertone-dan-schulz-YRtJMqHZj2n/">Undertone</a> (LS 30 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e6e7ebf3b6df4bfba21b525e34f866b5/">Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e6e7ebf3b6df4bfba21b525e34f866b5/&notes=Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/undertone-dan-schulz-lCZ2gdbB3oD-YRtJMqHZj2n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler and I talk about nearly everything.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.danschulz.co/p/tyler-cowen" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Transcript</a></p>
<p><strong>--</strong></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p>
<p>(0:00:00) Intro</p>
<p>(0:00:28) Identifying talent on Tyler’s podcast</p>
<p>(0:03:48) Why are follow up questions overrated?</p>
<p>(0:04:21) Tyler’s preferred guest career stage</p>
<p>(0:05:16) Optimal frequency for recording podcasts</p>
<p>(0:05:50) Tyler’s podcast prep</p>
<p>(0:07:39) Importance of in-person episodes</p>
<p>(0:09:56) What would Tyler ask Paul McCartney</p>
<p>(0:10:16) When to read literature in translation</p>
<p>(0:13:31) Tyler on Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche</p>
<p>(0:15:39) Elena Ferrante and the importance of pseudonyms</p>
<p>(0:17:17) Misreading literature</p>
<p>(0:17:56) Will literature get better in the next 10 years?</p>
<p>(0:19:21) Watching complex film</p>
<p>(0:22:14) Enjoying art</p>
<p>(0:23:08) Jonathan Swift and Peter Thiel</p>
<p>(0:24:45) Crude comedy</p>
<p>(0:25:28) Can we trust elites in the internet age?</p>
<p>(0:26:44) Generational theories of politics</p>
<p>(0:27:57) Religious thinkers and Tyler’s implicit theology</p>
<p>(0:29:33) What did Tyler get from Plato at a young age?</p>
<p>(0:30:51) Why are Shakespeare, Proust, and Melville in a league of their own?</p>
<p>(0:31:32) Fernando Pessoa</p>
<p>(0:31:59) Implications of demand sloping down</p>
<p>(0:33:22) Innovation in governance structures</p>
<p>(0:36:14) Should business leaders study the greats?</p>
<p>(0:38:36) GDP growth from today’s AI models</p>
<p>(0:40:35) LessWrong and worries about AI</p>
<p>(0:41:46) Feminized societies in times of chaos</p>
<p>(0:43:17) Fernand Braudel</p>
<p>(0:43:52) Best argument against NGDP targeting</p>
<p>(0:47:06) AI business models</p>
<p>(0:48:19) What is a bubble?</p>
<p>(0:49:33) Where are there too few Emergent Ventures applications?</p>
<p>(0:50:09) Unsolved problems in economics</p>
<p>(0:51:27) Immigration policy</p>
<p>(0:52:56) If Tyler wasn’t an economist</p>
<p>(0:53:50) Would Tyler go to Burning Man?</p>
<p>(0:54:33) The MR Universe</p>
<p>(0:55:32) Tyler’s equanimity</p>
<p>(0:57:15) Tyrone</p>
<p>(0:59:27) Joyce Carol Oates and Susan Sontag</p>
<p>(1:04:45) Wasting time</p>
<p>(1:04:54) Bach’s productivity</p>
<p>(1:05:29) Competitors to MR</p>
<p>(1:07:51) New Jersey and The Sopranos</p>
<p>(1:11:56) Rapid fire - what Tyler learned from different people</p>
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<p>Links</p>
<p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Follow Tyler on X</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Tyler's blog</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Tyler's podcast</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-unmasking-of-elena-ferrante">⁠Unmasking Elena Ferrante⁠</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/27/joyce-carol-oates-profile" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">New Yorker on Joyce Carol Oates</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/dnschlz" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Follow Dan on X</a></p>
<p>- Subscribe to Undertone on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtRjQ8EA3Via7KXzv9F173Q">⁠YouTube⁠</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-world-of-yesterday/id1693303954">⁠Apple⁠</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/59YkrYwjAgiKAVMNGWPaLE">⁠Spotify⁠</a>, or <a href="https://www.danschulz.co/">⁠Substack⁠</a></p>
<p>- Share anonymous feedback on the podcast: <a href="https://forms.gle/w7LXMCXhdJ5Q2eB9A" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">https://forms.gle/w7LXMCXhdJ5Q2eB9A</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dan Schulz, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/undertone-dan-schulz-YRtJMqHZj2n/">Undertone</a> (LS 30 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e6e7ebf3b6df4bfba21b525e34f866b5/">Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e6e7ebf3b6df4bfba21b525e34f866b5/&notes=Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/undertone-dan-schulz-lCZ2gdbB3oD-YRtJMqHZj2n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler and I talk about nearly everything.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.danschulz.co/p/tyler-cowen" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Transcript</a></p>
<p><strong>--</strong></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p>
<p>(0:00:00) Intro</p>
<p>(0:00:28) Identifying talent on Tyler’s podcast</p>
<p>(0:03:48) Why are follow up questions overrated?</p>
<p>(0:04:21) Tyler’s preferred guest career stage</p>
<p>(0:05:16) Optimal frequency for recording podcasts</p>
<p>(0:05:50) Tyler’s podcast prep</p>
<p>(0:07:39) Importance of in-person episodes</p>
<p>(0:09:56) What would Tyler ask Paul McCartney</p>
<p>(0:10:16) When to read literature in translation</p>
<p>(0:13:31) Tyler on Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche</p>
<p>(0:15:39) Elena Ferrante and the importance of pseudonyms</p>
<p>(0:17:17) Misreading literature</p>
<p>(0:17:56) Will literature get better in the next 10 years?</p>
<p>(0:19:21) Watching complex film</p>
<p>(0:22:14) Enjoying art</p>
<p>(0:23:08) Jonathan Swift and Peter Thiel</p>
<p>(0:24:45) Crude comedy</p>
<p>(0:25:28) Can we trust elites in the internet age?</p>
<p>(0:26:44) Generational theories of politics</p>
<p>(0:27:57) Religious thinkers and Tyler’s implicit theology</p>
<p>(0:29:33) What did Tyler get from Plato at a young age?</p>
<p>(0:30:51) Why are Shakespeare, Proust, and Melville in a league of their own?</p>
<p>(0:31:32) Fernando Pessoa</p>
<p>(0:31:59) Implications of demand sloping down</p>
<p>(0:33:22) Innovation in governance structures</p>
<p>(0:36:14) Should business leaders study the greats?</p>
<p>(0:38:36) GDP growth from today’s AI models</p>
<p>(0:40:35) LessWrong and worries about AI</p>
<p>(0:41:46) Feminized societies in times of chaos</p>
<p>(0:43:17) Fernand Braudel</p>
<p>(0:43:52) Best argument against NGDP targeting</p>
<p>(0:47:06) AI business models</p>
<p>(0:48:19) What is a bubble?</p>
<p>(0:49:33) Where are there too few Emergent Ventures applications?</p>
<p>(0:50:09) Unsolved problems in economics</p>
<p>(0:51:27) Immigration policy</p>
<p>(0:52:56) If Tyler wasn’t an economist</p>
<p>(0:53:50) Would Tyler go to Burning Man?</p>
<p>(0:54:33) The MR Universe</p>
<p>(0:55:32) Tyler’s equanimity</p>
<p>(0:57:15) Tyrone</p>
<p>(0:59:27) Joyce Carol Oates and Susan Sontag</p>
<p>(1:04:45) Wasting time</p>
<p>(1:04:54) Bach’s productivity</p>
<p>(1:05:29) Competitors to MR</p>
<p>(1:07:51) New Jersey and The Sopranos</p>
<p>(1:11:56) Rapid fire - what Tyler learned from different people</p>
<p>--</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Follow Tyler on X</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Tyler's blog</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Tyler's podcast</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-unmasking-of-elena-ferrante">⁠Unmasking Elena Ferrante⁠</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/27/joyce-carol-oates-profile" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">New Yorker on Joyce Carol Oates</a></p>
<p>- <a href="https://twitter.com/dnschlz" rel="noopener noreferer" target="_blank">Follow Dan on X</a></p>
<p>- Subscribe to Undertone on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtRjQ8EA3Via7KXzv9F173Q">⁠YouTube⁠</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-world-of-yesterday/id1693303954">⁠Apple⁠</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/59YkrYwjAgiKAVMNGWPaLE">⁠Spotify⁠</a>, or <a href="https://www.danschulz.co/">⁠Substack⁠</a></p>
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Episode: Tyler Cowen
Pub date: 2024-01-15

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            <title>What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-sGqZcXxWyEV/">Honestly with Bari Weiss</a> (LS 70 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/98dd4b239fc244578766089730060d78/">What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/98dd4b239fc244578766089730060d78/&notes=What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-Cg3N6r4M_H--sGqZcXxWyEV.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Last year was certainly eventful. It brought spy balloons, Donald Trump’s indictments, the coronation of a king, the fall of a crypto prince, and no shortage of chaos in Washington, from the ousting of Kevin McCarthy to the farcical George Santos scandal. Oh, and then there’s the small matter of two major wars, one in Gaza and one in Ukraine. Plus, ongoing tension between the U.S. and China. On a cheerier note, 2023 was also the year of Barbenheimer, the year it felt like AI really arrived, and the year the 90s were finally cool again.  </p><p><br /></p><p>But, as crazy as last year was, will the next twelve months prove that it was actually just the calm before the storm? </p><p><br /></p><p>For many of us, 2024 begins with a distinct feeling of dread. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Middle East grows increasingly unstable, the war in Ukraine is not going Kyiv’s way, and Xi Jinping’s rhetoric gets more bellicose by the day. Here at home, there’s the small matter of the election from hell, in which American voters face the unappetizing prospect of once again having to choose between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. </p><p><br /></p><p>To try and figure out whether things will really be as terrible as we fear, today on <em>Honestly</em> Bari Weiss and<em> Free Press</em> editor Olly Wiseman are calling up some of our favorite experts to get a better sense of what’s coming down the pike. </p><p><br /></p><p>The great <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">Tyler Cowen</a> looks into the economic crystal ball. <a href="https://leandramcohen.substack.com/">Leandra Medine Cohen</a> clues us in on fashion trends in 2024. Our very own Suzy Weiss talks through the cultural year ahead. Linguist <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/john-mcwhorter">John McWhorter</a> looks at language. Doctor and longevity expert <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/">Peter Attia</a> tells how to start the year healthy. Eagle-eyed political observers <a href="https://www.natesilver.net/">Nate Silver</a> and Frank Luntz try to forecast the election. And historian Niall Ferguson tells us whether we’re right to be having nightmares about World War III. </p><p><br /></p><p>Some guests cheered us up, others freaked us out. All of them were a pleasure to talk to. Welcome to 2024!</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Free Press, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-sGqZcXxWyEV/">Honestly with Bari Weiss</a> (LS 70 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/98dd4b239fc244578766089730060d78/">What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2024-01-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/98dd4b239fc244578766089730060d78/&notes=What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-Cg3N6r4M_H--sGqZcXxWyEV.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Last year was certainly eventful. It brought spy balloons, Donald Trump’s indictments, the coronation of a king, the fall of a crypto prince, and no shortage of chaos in Washington, from the ousting of Kevin McCarthy to the farcical George Santos scandal. Oh, and then there’s the small matter of two major wars, one in Gaza and one in Ukraine. Plus, ongoing tension between the U.S. and China. On a cheerier note, 2023 was also the year of Barbenheimer, the year it felt like AI really arrived, and the year the 90s were finally cool again.  </p><p><br /></p><p>But, as crazy as last year was, will the next twelve months prove that it was actually just the calm before the storm? </p><p><br /></p><p>For many of us, 2024 begins with a distinct feeling of dread. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Middle East grows increasingly unstable, the war in Ukraine is not going Kyiv’s way, and Xi Jinping’s rhetoric gets more bellicose by the day. Here at home, there’s the small matter of the election from hell, in which American voters face the unappetizing prospect of once again having to choose between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. </p><p><br /></p><p>To try and figure out whether things will really be as terrible as we fear, today on <em>Honestly</em> Bari Weiss and<em> Free Press</em> editor Olly Wiseman are calling up some of our favorite experts to get a better sense of what’s coming down the pike. </p><p><br /></p><p>The great <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">Tyler Cowen</a> looks into the economic crystal ball. <a href="https://leandramcohen.substack.com/">Leandra Medine Cohen</a> clues us in on fashion trends in 2024. Our very own Suzy Weiss talks through the cultural year ahead. Linguist <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/john-mcwhorter">John McWhorter</a> looks at language. Doctor and longevity expert <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/">Peter Attia</a> tells how to start the year healthy. Eagle-eyed political observers <a href="https://www.natesilver.net/">Nate Silver</a> and Frank Luntz try to forecast the election. And historian Niall Ferguson tells us whether we’re right to be having nightmares about World War III. </p><p><br /></p><p>Some guests cheered us up, others freaked us out. All of them were a pleasure to talk to. Welcome to 2024!</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Free Press, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Honestly with Bari Weiss
Episode: What to Expect in 2024: Predictions from Niall Ferguson, Tyler Cowen, Peter Attia, John McWhorter and More
Pub date: 2024-01-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/98dd4b239fc244578766089730060d78/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2024 05:13:01 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b350f1411fa54ebd88938b55baf10de7/">Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b350f1411fa54ebd88938b55baf10de7/&notes=Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we talk with Emmett Shear, who was in the very first YC batch in 2005 with a startup called Kiko. But you know him better as the co-founder of Twitch, which YC funded in 2007. Learn how Twitch grew from one guy walking around with a camera on his head to one of the biggest communities on the internet. It's a crazy story even by startup standards. Enjoy!</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b350f1411fa54ebd88938b55baf10de7/">Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b350f1411fa54ebd88938b55baf10de7/&notes=Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we talk with Emmett Shear, who was in the very first YC batch in 2005 with a startup called Kiko. But you know him better as the co-founder of Twitch, which YC funded in 2007. Learn how Twitch grew from one guy walking around with a camera on his head to one of the biggest communities on the internet. It's a crazy story even by startup standards. Enjoy!</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Social Radars
Episode: Emmett Shear, Co-Founder of Twitch
Pub date: 2023-11-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b350f1411fa54ebd88938b55baf10de7/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 17:09:13 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Patrick &amp; John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/14415ecc53404ef99e23c41d07be17de/">Patrick & John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/14415ecc53404ef99e23c41d07be17de/&notes=Patrick & John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode we catch up with Patrick and John Collison, two brothers from Ireland who founded Stripe in 2009. Since then we've watched Stripe grow from a two-man show to one of the great powers of the tech world</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/14415ecc53404ef99e23c41d07be17de/">Patrick & John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/14415ecc53404ef99e23c41d07be17de/&notes=Patrick & John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode we catch up with Patrick and John Collison, two brothers from Ireland who founded Stripe in 2009. Since then we've watched Stripe grow from a two-man show to one of the great powers of the tech world</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Social Radars
Episode: Patrick & John Collison, Co-Founders of Stripe
Pub date: 2023-11-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/14415ecc53404ef99e23c41d07be17de/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 17:09:06 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits &amp; Rippling</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e4f33a5af8124c659399beb0fb17f48e/">Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits & Rippling</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e4f33a5af8124c659399beb0fb17f48e/&notes=Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits & Rippling">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we're talking with Parker Conrad, who founded two startups that went on to become unicorns: Zenefits in 2013, and Rippling in 2016. Parker’s story is one the more dramatic ones you’ll hear on this podcast. In fact this episode is two stories: his misadventures at Zenefits, and the ambitious ideas he has implemented at Rippling.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A4FIOuL_yHP/">The Social Radars</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e4f33a5af8124c659399beb0fb17f48e/">Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits & Rippling</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-12-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e4f33a5af8124c659399beb0fb17f48e/&notes=Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits & Rippling">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-social-radars-jessica-livingston-A0YgWCjTbIX-A4FIOuL_yHP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Today we're talking with Parker Conrad, who founded two startups that went on to become unicorns: Zenefits in 2013, and Rippling in 2016. Parker’s story is one the more dramatic ones you’ll hear on this podcast. In fact this episode is two stories: his misadventures at Zenefits, and the ambitious ideas he has implemented at Rippling.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jessica Livingston, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Social Radars
Episode: Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits & Rippling
Pub date: 2023-12-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/e4f33a5af8124c659399beb0fb17f48e/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 17:09:00 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Jessica Livingston</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Social Radars</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:18:25</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Jessica Livingston</itunes:author>
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            <title>200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-bayesian-conspiracy-the-bayesian-EsUx6g45Tnf/">The Bayesian Conspiracy</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/af8fd93ce59b431abf5487e424c1c570/">200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/af8fd93ce59b431abf5487e424c1c570/&notes=200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-bayesian-conspiracy-the-bayesian-v128eiPQBgX-EsUx6g45Tnf.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>We talk with Brandon Hendrickson about his ACX-contest winning book review of The Educated Mind by Kieran Egan. “A novel theory about why schools, as they are now, don’t work.” The winning book review in its original text (also in audio (itunes, spotify)) Brandon’s substack – The Lost Tools of Learning Science Is Weird – a […]<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bayesian Conspiracy, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-bayesian-conspiracy-the-bayesian-EsUx6g45Tnf/">The Bayesian Conspiracy</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/af8fd93ce59b431abf5487e424c1c570/">200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-11-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/af8fd93ce59b431abf5487e424c1c570/&notes=200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-bayesian-conspiracy-the-bayesian-v128eiPQBgX-EsUx6g45Tnf.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>We talk with Brandon Hendrickson about his ACX-contest winning book review of The Educated Mind by Kieran Egan. “A novel theory about why schools, as they are now, don’t work.” The winning book review in its original text (also in audio (itunes, spotify)) Brandon’s substack – The Lost Tools of Learning Science Is Weird – a […]<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bayesian Conspiracy, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Bayesian Conspiracy
Episode: 200 – The Educated Mind with Brandon Hendrickson
Pub date: 2023-11-15

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/af8fd93ce59b431abf5487e424c1c570/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:03:52 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>The Bayesian Conspiracy</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Bayesian Conspiracy</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>02:23:32</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>The Bayesian Conspiracy</itunes:author>
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            <title>High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/wellness-actually-with-emily-oster-perry-nyPdeO7-H06/">Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/05572b01bd1847a6bc8646362e9f7d87/">High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-09-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/05572b01bd1847a6bc8646362e9f7d87/&notes=High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/wellness-actually-with-emily-oster-perry-bDHwRAtQu8v-nyPdeO7-H06.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Kids today face an unprecedented pressure to succeed, and it's pushing their mental health, and their families, to a breaking point. Today on ParentData, journalist Jennifer Breheny Wallace explains her research in her bestselling book, "<a href="https://amzn.to/3PWyt1C" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Never Enough</a>," how we got here, how these problems exist across both class and culture, and how we can combat this pressure by simply allowing our kids to matter as much as we already know they do.</p> <p>Subscribe to <a href="https://parentdata.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ParentData.org </a>for ad-free podcast episodes, hundreds of articles on pregnancy and parenting, and more.</p> <p>We need your stories! Click on <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAcYUw-HI81XkpRzKkPMQQ0uHzOijEvnUsbpKvbK4xAC-Yhg/viewform" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this form</a> for our upcoming episode themes and instructions on how to contribute your voice. Or you can record a voice memo on your phone and email it to us at <a href="mailto:podcast@parentdata.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcast@parentdata.org</a>. We can’t wait to hear from you.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/wellness-actually-with-emily-oster-perry-nyPdeO7-H06/">Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/05572b01bd1847a6bc8646362e9f7d87/">High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-09-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/05572b01bd1847a6bc8646362e9f7d87/&notes=High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/wellness-actually-with-emily-oster-perry-bDHwRAtQu8v-nyPdeO7-H06.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Kids today face an unprecedented pressure to succeed, and it's pushing their mental health, and their families, to a breaking point. Today on ParentData, journalist Jennifer Breheny Wallace explains her research in her bestselling book, "<a href="https://amzn.to/3PWyt1C" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Never Enough</a>," how we got here, how these problems exist across both class and culture, and how we can combat this pressure by simply allowing our kids to matter as much as we already know they do.</p> <p>Subscribe to <a href="https://parentdata.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ParentData.org </a>for ad-free podcast episodes, hundreds of articles on pregnancy and parenting, and more.</p> <p>We need your stories! Click on <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAcYUw-HI81XkpRzKkPMQQ0uHzOijEvnUsbpKvbK4xAC-Yhg/viewform" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this form</a> for our upcoming episode themes and instructions on how to contribute your voice. Or you can record a voice memo on your phone and email it to us at <a href="mailto:podcast@parentdata.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcast@parentdata.org</a>. We can’t wait to hear from you.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD
Episode: High-Achieving Kids: The culture of never enough
Pub date: 2023-09-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/05572b01bd1847a6bc8646362e9f7d87/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2023 10:38:08 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>iHeartPodcasts</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster &amp; Perry Wilson, MD</itunes:subtitle>
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            <title>Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8fa4efa1a063476f8d138af55f039274/">Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8fa4efa1a063476f8d138af55f039274/&notes=Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this (mostly) standalone episode, we cover how Deutsch and Byrne each interpret Byrne's theory differently. Deutsch emphasizes the micro-level actions and gestures of great apes and the clear lack of understanding of what each gesture does. Byrne emphasizes the macro-level and the flexible intelligence required to come up with a program of action to accomplish a novel goal. Byrne's theory of 'animal insight' makes specific testable claims. To Byrne, great apes (especially Chimps) can 'think.' His theory says that animal insight was a necessary precursor to human insight and that humans utilize both kinds. If he's right, then animal insight has relevance to AGI studies.&nbsp;Deutsch has doubts about all of this and thinks of Bryne's theory more as evidence that animals cannot think.</p>
<p>We also discuss how Byrne and Deutsch both understand the mirror test differently. And finally, we dip just a bit into animal sentience and discuss why the theory that animals feel things is the prevailing theory not so much because it's a great theory but more because it has no real current competitors. It's difficult to explain much animal behavior without either tacitly referring to animal feelings or just clearly making up bad ad hoc explanations.&nbsp;</p>
<p>While it's helpful to have listened to the 3 previous episodes, this episode mostly stands alone.</p>
<p><strong>Links:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Richard Byrne's book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198757077/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=thelightrebor-20&amp;linkCode=w00&amp;linkId=c3d4a46385ee81e16b121d53628c01d0&amp;creativeASIN=0198757077"><em>Evolving Insight: How it is we can think about why things happen</em></a></li>
 <li>Richard Byrne's book<em> </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0198522657/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0198522657&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=thelightrebor-20&amp;linkId=c45fec42b0a5fcefba16ae16809048f3"><em>The Thinking Ape: The Evolutionary Origins of Intelligence</em></a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSjqEopnC9w">Video on dolphin intelligence/communication</a></li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8fa4efa1a063476f8d138af55f039274/">Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8fa4efa1a063476f8d138af55f039274/&notes=Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this (mostly) standalone episode, we cover how Deutsch and Byrne each interpret Byrne's theory differently. Deutsch emphasizes the micro-level actions and gestures of great apes and the clear lack of understanding of what each gesture does. Byrne emphasizes the macro-level and the flexible intelligence required to come up with a program of action to accomplish a novel goal. Byrne's theory of 'animal insight' makes specific testable claims. To Byrne, great apes (especially Chimps) can 'think.' His theory says that animal insight was a necessary precursor to human insight and that humans utilize both kinds. If he's right, then animal insight has relevance to AGI studies.&nbsp;Deutsch has doubts about all of this and thinks of Bryne's theory more as evidence that animals cannot think.</p>
<p>We also discuss how Byrne and Deutsch both understand the mirror test differently. And finally, we dip just a bit into animal sentience and discuss why the theory that animals feel things is the prevailing theory not so much because it's a great theory but more because it has no real current competitors. It's difficult to explain much animal behavior without either tacitly referring to animal feelings or just clearly making up bad ad hoc explanations.&nbsp;</p>
<p>While it's helpful to have listened to the 3 previous episodes, this episode mostly stands alone.</p>
<p><strong>Links:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Richard Byrne's book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198757077/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=thelightrebor-20&amp;linkCode=w00&amp;linkId=c3d4a46385ee81e16b121d53628c01d0&amp;creativeASIN=0198757077"><em>Evolving Insight: How it is we can think about why things happen</em></a></li>
 <li>Richard Byrne's book<em> </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0198522657/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0198522657&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=thelightrebor-20&amp;linkId=c45fec42b0a5fcefba16ae16809048f3"><em>The Thinking Ape: The Evolutionary Origins of Intelligence</em></a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSjqEopnC9w">Video on dolphin intelligence/communication</a></li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 40: Byrne vs Deutsch on Animal Intelligence
Pub date: 2022-02-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/8fa4efa1a063476f8d138af55f039274/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:12:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</author>



            
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            <title>Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/voices4ed-education-post-nWPb4ZCptEY/">Voices4Ed</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9e543293dac54d45988cca0222ac6262/">Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-12-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9e543293dac54d45988cca0222ac6262/&notes=Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/voices4ed-education-post-42BXVLcizKZ-nWPb4ZCptEY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we discuss The Opportunity Myth: a report by the TNTP dispels the myth that all students have the same opportunity to attain their college and professional goals. First, we speak with Justin Thach, a high-schooler from Salem, Oregon about his observations of inequity in the classroom. Then, we speak with Bailey Czupryk, lead researcher for The Opportunity Myth about concrete things we can do to move schools towards providing equal opportunity for all students.</p> <p>Full show notes and links at http://educationpost.org/conversation/podcast/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Education Post, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/voices4ed-education-post-nWPb4ZCptEY/">Voices4Ed</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9e543293dac54d45988cca0222ac6262/">Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-12-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9e543293dac54d45988cca0222ac6262/&notes=Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/voices4ed-education-post-42BXVLcizKZ-nWPb4ZCptEY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we discuss The Opportunity Myth: a report by the TNTP dispels the myth that all students have the same opportunity to attain their college and professional goals. First, we speak with Justin Thach, a high-schooler from Salem, Oregon about his observations of inequity in the classroom. Then, we speak with Bailey Czupryk, lead researcher for The Opportunity Myth about concrete things we can do to move schools towards providing equal opportunity for all students.</p> <p>Full show notes and links at http://educationpost.org/conversation/podcast/</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Education Post, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Voices4Ed
Episode: Episode 23: The Opportunity Myth
Pub date: 2018-12-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9e543293dac54d45988cca0222ac6262/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2023 18:39:14 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel &amp; Reid Hoffman, and Why He&#x27;d Never Invest in a Remote-First Company</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-logan-bartlett-show-by-redpoint-ventures-zale2V68N-1/">The Logan Bartlett Show</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c0dc511e23fd487c812794c2ca8d3ff5/">EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel & Reid Hoffman, and Why He'd Never Invest in a Remote-First Company</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c0dc511e23fd487c812794c2ca8d3ff5/&notes=EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel & Reid Hoffman, and Why He'd Never Invest in a Remote-First Company">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-logan-bartlett-show-by-redpoint-ventures-lhuk8G9yIVW-zale2V68N-1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith Rabois is a prominent Silicon Valley investor and entrepreneur. He is currently the CEO and founder of OpenStore, and a partner at Founders Fund, a venture capital firm co-founded by Peter Thiel. Prior to this, he served as the COO at Square, a mobile payments company founded by Jack Dorsey, and was also part of the so-called "PayPal Mafia," a group of individuals who co-founded PayPal or worked there in its early days and went on to become successful entrepreneurs and investors. Throughout his career, he has been involved in the founding and growth of many successful technology companies, including Yelp, LinkedIn, and YouTube. In Keith's second appearance on the podcast, he discusses topics such as his dislike for OKRs, his aversion to investing in remote-first companies, and his experiences working with Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, and Jack Dorsey.</p><p>(0:00) Intro</p><p>(1:14) Welcome back, Keith</p><p>(5:35) Hating OKRs</p><p>(10:03) On making decisions</p><p>(14:09) Not believing in remote work</p><p>(17:33) Social Issues in the Workplace</p><p>(19:00) What is the role of a VC?</p><p>(22:08) Thinking about what can go right</p><p>(29:35) The "why you" in a potential investment</p><p>(34:28) Fitting the founder to the story</p><p>(37:59) The most successful founders are trending older</p><p>(43:21) The firm brand at Founders Fund</p><p>(47:57) Lessons learned from Keith's only five bosses in his career</p><p>(55:48) Thoughts on AI</p><p>(59:36) Artificial Intelligence in China</p><p>(1:03:23) What is your most contrarian view today?</p><p>(1:06:56) On Elon & using Twitter</p><p> </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>https://twitter.com/rabois</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fQHLK1aIBs</p><p>https://delian.io/lessons-3</p><p> </p><p>Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky</p><p>Produced: Rashad Assir</p><p>Executive Producer: Josh Machiz</p><p>Music: Griff Lawson</p><p> </p><p>🎙 Listen to the show</p><p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/three-cartoon-avatars/id1606770839</p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5WqBqDb4br3LlyVrdqOYYb?si=3076e6c1b5c94d63&amp;nd=1</p><p>Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS9zb0hJZkhWbg</p><p> </p><p>🎥 Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugS0jD5IAdoqzjaNYzns7w?sub_confirmation=1</p><p> </p><p>Follow on Socials</p><p>📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theloganbartlettshow</p><p>🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/loganbartshow</p><p>🎬 Clips on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theloganbartlettshow</p><p> </p><p>About the Show</p><p>Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode, Logan goes behind the scenes with world-class entrepreneurs and investors. If you're interested in the real inside baseball of tech, entrepreneurship, and start-up investing, tune in every Friday for new episodes.</p>
<p><p>Executive Producer: Rashad Assir</p><p>Producer: Leah Clapper</p><p>Mixing and editing: Justin Hrabovsky</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Check out Unsupervised Learning,</strong> Redpoint's AI Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UCUl-s_Vp-Kkk_XVyDylNwLA</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>🎥 <strong>Subscribe on YouTube: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugS0jD5IAdoqzjaNYzns7w?sub_confirmation=1</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Follow on Socials</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theloganbartlettshow</p><p>📱 X - https://twitter.com/loganbartshow</p><p>🎬 Clips on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theloganbartlettshow</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.</p><p>Tap follow and enable notifications to stay ahead of the game.</p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from by Redpoint Ventures, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-logan-bartlett-show-by-redpoint-ventures-zale2V68N-1/">The Logan Bartlett Show</a> (LS 47 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c0dc511e23fd487c812794c2ca8d3ff5/">EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel & Reid Hoffman, and Why He'd Never Invest in a Remote-First Company</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c0dc511e23fd487c812794c2ca8d3ff5/&notes=EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel & Reid Hoffman, and Why He'd Never Invest in a Remote-First Company">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-logan-bartlett-show-by-redpoint-ventures-lhuk8G9yIVW-zale2V68N-1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith Rabois is a prominent Silicon Valley investor and entrepreneur. He is currently the CEO and founder of OpenStore, and a partner at Founders Fund, a venture capital firm co-founded by Peter Thiel. Prior to this, he served as the COO at Square, a mobile payments company founded by Jack Dorsey, and was also part of the so-called "PayPal Mafia," a group of individuals who co-founded PayPal or worked there in its early days and went on to become successful entrepreneurs and investors. Throughout his career, he has been involved in the founding and growth of many successful technology companies, including Yelp, LinkedIn, and YouTube. In Keith's second appearance on the podcast, he discusses topics such as his dislike for OKRs, his aversion to investing in remote-first companies, and his experiences working with Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, and Jack Dorsey.</p><p>(0:00) Intro</p><p>(1:14) Welcome back, Keith</p><p>(5:35) Hating OKRs</p><p>(10:03) On making decisions</p><p>(14:09) Not believing in remote work</p><p>(17:33) Social Issues in the Workplace</p><p>(19:00) What is the role of a VC?</p><p>(22:08) Thinking about what can go right</p><p>(29:35) The "why you" in a potential investment</p><p>(34:28) Fitting the founder to the story</p><p>(37:59) The most successful founders are trending older</p><p>(43:21) The firm brand at Founders Fund</p><p>(47:57) Lessons learned from Keith's only five bosses in his career</p><p>(55:48) Thoughts on AI</p><p>(59:36) Artificial Intelligence in China</p><p>(1:03:23) What is your most contrarian view today?</p><p>(1:06:56) On Elon & using Twitter</p><p> </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>https://twitter.com/rabois</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fQHLK1aIBs</p><p>https://delian.io/lessons-3</p><p> </p><p>Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky</p><p>Produced: Rashad Assir</p><p>Executive Producer: Josh Machiz</p><p>Music: Griff Lawson</p><p> </p><p>🎙 Listen to the show</p><p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/three-cartoon-avatars/id1606770839</p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5WqBqDb4br3LlyVrdqOYYb?si=3076e6c1b5c94d63&amp;nd=1</p><p>Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS9zb0hJZkhWbg</p><p> </p><p>🎥 Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugS0jD5IAdoqzjaNYzns7w?sub_confirmation=1</p><p> </p><p>Follow on Socials</p><p>📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theloganbartlettshow</p><p>🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/loganbartshow</p><p>🎬 Clips on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theloganbartlettshow</p><p> </p><p>About the Show</p><p>Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode, Logan goes behind the scenes with world-class entrepreneurs and investors. If you're interested in the real inside baseball of tech, entrepreneurship, and start-up investing, tune in every Friday for new episodes.</p>
<p><p>Executive Producer: Rashad Assir</p><p>Producer: Leah Clapper</p><p>Mixing and editing: Justin Hrabovsky</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Check out Unsupervised Learning,</strong> Redpoint's AI Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UCUl-s_Vp-Kkk_XVyDylNwLA</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>🎥 <strong>Subscribe on YouTube: </strong>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCugS0jD5IAdoqzjaNYzns7w?sub_confirmation=1</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Follow on Socials</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theloganbartlettshow</p><p>📱 X - https://twitter.com/loganbartshow</p><p>🎬 Clips on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theloganbartlettshow</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.</p><p>Tap follow and enable notifications to stay ahead of the game.</p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from by Redpoint Ventures, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Logan Bartlett Show
Episode: EP 62: Keith Rabois (Partner, Founders Fund) Lessons from Peter Thiel & Reid Hoffman, and Why He'd Never Invest in a Remote-First Company
Pub date: 2023-04-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c0dc511e23fd487c812794c2ca8d3ff5/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from by Redpoint Ventures, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 10:01:43 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-sGqZcXxWyEV/">Honestly with Bari Weiss</a> (LS 70 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082/">Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082/&notes=Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-Cg3N6r4M_H--sGqZcXxWyEV.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel doesn’t shy away from taking big bets. From Facebook (he was the company’s first outside investor) to Gawker (he successfully conspired to put the website out of business) and, of course, to Trump (he threw his support behind the nominee in 2016).</p><p>Unlike many in the Silicon Valley set, who often say the popular thing in public and the thing they actually believe behind closed doors, Thiel has used his voice and his fortune to steer the country in the direction he believes is right—despite tremendous blowback. That was true in last year’s midterms, when Thiel threw his support behind two anti-establishment Republican candidates: Arizona’s Blake Masters and Ohio’s JD Vance. </p><p>But the billionaire entrepreneur and investor tells me in this conversation that he’s changing course. When I asked him who he’d back in 2024, he demurred. He says he’s decided to step away from supporting select politicians and instead is urging the political right to shift its focus from the culture wars to issues he believes matters more: like economic growth and tech innovation. </p><p>We cover a lot in this conversation. Why does Thiel believe that Democrats are the evil party and Republicans are the stupid party? Why is our infrastructure so far behind other nations? And why are Americans so impressed by the apps on our phones instead of dreaming of the next Sputnik?</p><p>Also: A.I., China, TikTok, Twitter, the right way to defeat what Elon Musk musk calls the “woke mind virus” and what Thiel’s going to bet on next.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Free Press, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-sGqZcXxWyEV/">Honestly with Bari Weiss</a> (LS 70 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082/">Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082/&notes=Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/honestly-with-bari-weiss-the-free-press-Cg3N6r4M_H--sGqZcXxWyEV.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Peter Thiel doesn’t shy away from taking big bets. From Facebook (he was the company’s first outside investor) to Gawker (he successfully conspired to put the website out of business) and, of course, to Trump (he threw his support behind the nominee in 2016).</p><p>Unlike many in the Silicon Valley set, who often say the popular thing in public and the thing they actually believe behind closed doors, Thiel has used his voice and his fortune to steer the country in the direction he believes is right—despite tremendous blowback. That was true in last year’s midterms, when Thiel threw his support behind two anti-establishment Republican candidates: Arizona’s Blake Masters and Ohio’s JD Vance. </p><p>But the billionaire entrepreneur and investor tells me in this conversation that he’s changing course. When I asked him who he’d back in 2024, he demurred. He says he’s decided to step away from supporting select politicians and instead is urging the political right to shift its focus from the culture wars to issues he believes matters more: like economic growth and tech innovation. </p><p>We cover a lot in this conversation. Why does Thiel believe that Democrats are the evil party and Republicans are the stupid party? Why is our infrastructure so far behind other nations? And why are Americans so impressed by the apps on our phones instead of dreaming of the next Sputnik?</p><p>Also: A.I., China, TikTok, Twitter, the right way to defeat what Elon Musk musk calls the “woke mind virus” and what Thiel’s going to bet on next.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Free Press, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Honestly with Bari Weiss
Episode: Peter Thiel Says America Has Bigger Problems Than Wokeness
Pub date: 2023-05-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/e91bfb0def314bb49653c28fd0c04082/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2023 03:33:28 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:author>The Free Press</itunes:author>
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            <title>How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ted-talks-daily-sd-video-ted-MU4p3ohrwSQ/">TED Talks Daily (SD video)</a> (LS 60 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fdaaccbdb3fb431b8947905149f0ebe0/">How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fdaaccbdb3fb431b8947905149f0ebe0/&notes=How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ted-talks-daily-sd-video-ted-NpPTmL5jVSI-MU4p3ohrwSQ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy, thinks artificial intelligence could spark the greatest positive transformation education has ever seen. He shares the opportunities he sees for students and educators to collaborate with AI tools -- including the potential of a personal AI tutor for every student and an AI teaching assistant for every teacher -- and demos some exciting new features for their educational chatbot, Khanmigo.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ted-talks-daily-sd-video-ted-MU4p3ohrwSQ/">TED Talks Daily (SD video)</a> (LS 60 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fdaaccbdb3fb431b8947905149f0ebe0/">How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-05-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fdaaccbdb3fb431b8947905149f0ebe0/&notes=How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ted-talks-daily-sd-video-ted-NpPTmL5jVSI-MU4p3ohrwSQ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy, thinks artificial intelligence could spark the greatest positive transformation education has ever seen. He shares the opportunities he sees for students and educators to collaborate with AI tools -- including the potential of a personal AI tutor for every student and an AI teaching assistant for every teacher -- and demos some exciting new features for their educational chatbot, Khanmigo.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: TED Talks Daily (SD video)
Episode: How AI could save (not destroy) education | Sal Khan
Pub date: 2023-05-01

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/fdaaccbdb3fb431b8947905149f0ebe0/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2023 07:49:18 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/moment-of-zen-erik-torenberg-dan-romero-xZ5z1iB_dsR/">"Moment of Zen"</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e/">Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e/&notes=Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/moment-of-zen-erik-torenberg-dan-romero-ikEKe_N0Pof-xZ5z1iB_dsR.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.</p><p><br /></p><p>We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/ee803dfe-c928-11ed-9b11-738e6e384163/podcasts/e198a7da-81aa-11ee-af3d-9f98fb77a056/episodes/073b5822-a91d-11ee-8e91-eb9238e80e65/eriktorenberg.com">eriktorenberg.com</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST:</p><p>The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the<em> </em>nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.</p><p><a href="https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics">https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics</a></p><p><br /></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p><strong>(00:00) Episode preview</strong></p><p><strong>(03:00) Intro to effective accelerationism</strong></p><h3>(08:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism</h3><h3>(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up</h3><h3>(42:00) Transhumanism</h3><h3>(46:00) "Equanimity amidst the singularity"</h3><h3>(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame</h3><h3>(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism</h3><h3>(01:06:00) The case for AI safety</h3><h3>(01:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure</h3><h3>(01:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile</h3><h3>(01:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?</h3><h3>(01:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides</h3><h3>(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?</h3><h3>(2:09:00) "Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside"</h3><p><br /></p><p>SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Secureframe</p><p>Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to <a href="https://beehiiv.com/">https://Beehiiv.com</a> and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months</p><p><br /></p><p>-Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a> for a $1/month trial period</p><p>Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a></p><p><br /></p><p>-Secureframe (<a href="www.secureframe.com">www.secureframe.com</a>)</p><p>Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/moment-of-zen-erik-torenberg-dan-romero-xZ5z1iB_dsR/">"Moment of Zen"</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e/">Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e/&notes=Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/moment-of-zen-erik-torenberg-dan-romero-ikEKe_N0Pof-xZ5z1iB_dsR.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Anonymous founders of the Effective Accelerationist (e/acc) movement @Bayeslord and Beff Jezoz (@BasedBeff) join Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Nathan Labenz to debate views on AI safety.</p><p><br /></p><p>We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/ee803dfe-c928-11ed-9b11-738e6e384163/podcasts/e198a7da-81aa-11ee-af3d-9f98fb77a056/episodes/073b5822-a91d-11ee-8e91-eb9238e80e65/eriktorenberg.com">eriktorenberg.com</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>RECOMMENDED PODCAST:</p><p>The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the<em> </em>nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.</p><p><a href="https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics">https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics</a></p><p><br /></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p><strong>(00:00) Episode preview</strong></p><p><strong>(03:00) Intro to effective accelerationism</strong></p><h3>(08:00) Differences between effective accelerationism and effective altruism</h3><h3>(23:00) Effective accelerationism is bottoms-up</h3><h3>(42:00) Transhumanism</h3><h3>(46:00) "Equanimity amidst the singularity"</h3><h3>(48:30) Why AI safety is the wrong frame</h3><h3>(56:00) Pushing back against effective accelerationism</h3><h3>(01:06:00) The case for AI safety</h3><h3>(01:24:00) Upgrading civilizational infrastructure</h3><h3>(01:33:00) Effective accelerationism is anti-fragile</h3><h3>(01:39:00) Will we botch AI like we botched nuclear?</h3><h3>(01:46:00) Hidden costs of emphasizing downsides</h3><h3>(2:00:00) Are we in the same position as neanderthals, before humans?</h3><h3>(2:09:00) "Doomerism has an unpriced opportunity cost of upside"</h3><p><br /></p><p>SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Secureframe</p><p>Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to <a href="https://beehiiv.com/">https://Beehiiv.com</a> and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months</p><p><br /></p><p>-Shopify: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a> for a $1/month trial period</p><p>Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: <a href="https://shopify.com/momentofzen">https://shopify.com/momentofzen</a></p><p><br /></p><p>-Secureframe (<a href="www.secureframe.com">www.secureframe.com</a>)</p><p>Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: "Moment of Zen"
Episode: Effective Accelerationism and the AI Safety Debate with Bayeslord, Beff Jezoz, and Nathan Labenz
Pub date: 2023-03-11

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2f473d474fd847a09edbe06561e2f92e/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 18:35:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>02:09:24</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez</itunes:author>
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            <title>12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/785d8e61d6dd48559317ff40905f4977/">12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/785d8e61d6dd48559317ff40905f4977/&notes=12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>For this episode, we’re presenting Jordan’s lecture at the Civic Arts Plaza in Thousand Oaks, California on June 30, 2018. </p><p> </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/785d8e61d6dd48559317ff40905f4977/">12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/785d8e61d6dd48559317ff40905f4977/&notes=12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>For this episode, we’re presenting Jordan’s lecture at the Civic Arts Plaza in Thousand Oaks, California on June 30, 2018. </p><p> </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Episode: 12 Rules Thousand Oaks: Truth in Speech, and Meaning
Pub date: 2019-04-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/785d8e61d6dd48559317ff40905f4977/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2023 07:33:28 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Dr. Jordan B. Peterson</itunes:author>
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            <title>167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bankless-bankless-ukgFt3i7N-d/">Bankless</a> (LS 61 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c0c353741a064e15912975e6b1d5b563/">167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c0c353741a064e15912975e6b1d5b563/&notes=167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bankless-bankless-3Zo0WP1U4ku-ukgFt3i7N-d.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this highly anticipated sequel to our 1st AI conversation with Eliezer Yudkowsky, we bring you a thought-provoking discussion with Robin Hanson, a professor of economics at George Mason University and a research associate at the Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University. </p> <p>Eliezer painted a chilling and grim picture of a future where AI ultimately kills us all​. Robin is here to provide a different perspective.</p> <p>------ ✨ DEBRIEF | Unpacking the episode:  <a href="https://www.bankless.com/debrief-robin-hanson">https://www.bankless.com/debrief-robin-hanson</a>      ------ ✨ COLLECTIBLES | Collect this episode:  <a href="https://collectibles.bankless.com/mint">https://collectibles.bankless.com/mint</a> </p> <p>------ ✨ NEW BANKLESS PRODUCT | Token Hub <a href="https://bankless.cc/TokenHubRSS">https://bankless.cc/TokenHubRSS</a>  </p> <p>------ In this episode, we explore:</p> <p>- Why Robin believes Eliezer is wrong and that we're not all going to die from an AI takeover. But will we potentially become their pets instead? - The possibility of a civil war between multiple AIs and why it's more likely than being dominated by a single superintelligent AI. - Robin's concerns about the regulation of AI and why he believes it's a greater threat than AI itself. - A fascinating analogy: why Robin thinks alien civilizations might spread like cancer? - Finally, we dive into the world of crypto and explore Robin's views on this rapidly evolving technology.</p> <p>Whether you're an AI enthusiast, a crypto advocate, or just someone intrigued by the big-picture questions about humanity and its prospects, this episode is one you won't want to miss.</p> <p>------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: </p> <p>⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM <a href="https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum">https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum</a> </p> <p>🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE <a href="https://bankless.cc/kraken">https://bankless.cc/kraken</a> </p> <p>🦄UNISWAP | ON-CHAIN MARKETPLACE <a href="https://bankless.cc/uniswap">https://bankless.cc/uniswap</a> </p> <p>👻 PHANTOM | FRIENDLY MULTICHAIN WALLET <a href="https://bankless.cc/phantom-waitlist">https://bankless.cc/phantom-waitlist</a> </p> <p>🦊METAMASK LEARN | HELPFUL WEB3 RESOURCE <a href="https://bankless.cc/MetaMask">https://bankless.cc/MetaMask</a> </p> <p>------ Topics Covered</p> <p>0:00 Intro 8:42 How Robin is Weird 10:00 Are We All Going to Die? 13:50 Eliezer’s Assumption  25:00 Intelligence, Humans, & Evolution  27:31 Eliezer Counter Point  32:00 Acceleration of Change  33:18 Comparing & Contrasting Eliezer’s Argument 35:45 A New Life Form 44:24 AI Improving Itself 47:04 Self Interested Acting Agent  49:56 Human Displacement?  55:56 Many AIs  1:00:18 Humans vs. Robots  1:04:14 Pause or Continue AI Innovation? 1:10:52 Quiet Civilization  1:14:28 Grabby Aliens  1:19:55 Are Humans Grabby? 1:27:29 Grabby Aliens Explained  1:36:16 Cancer  1:40:00 Robin’s Thoughts on Crypto  1:42:20 Closing & Disclaimers </p> <p>------ Resources:</p> <p>Robin Hanson <a href="https://twitter.com/robinhanson">https://twitter.com/robinhanson</a> </p> <p>Eliezer Yudkowsky on Bankless <a href="https://www.bankless.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky"> https://www.bankless.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky</a> </p> <p>What is the AI FOOM debate? <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/the-hanson-yudkowsky-ai-foom-debate"> https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/the-hanson-yudkowsky-ai-foom-debate</a> </p> <p>Age of Em book - Robin Hanson <a href="https://ageofem.com/">https://ageofem.com/</a> </p> <p>Grabby Aliens <a href="https://grabbyaliens.com/">https://grabbyaliens.com/</a> </p> <p>Kurzgesagt video <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I&amp;t=1s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I&amp;t=1s</a> </p> <p>----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research.</p> <p>Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: <a href="https://www.bankless.com/disclosures">https://www.bankless.com/disclosures</a> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bankless, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/bankless-bankless-ukgFt3i7N-d/">Bankless</a> (LS 61 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c0c353741a064e15912975e6b1d5b563/">167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c0c353741a064e15912975e6b1d5b563/&notes=167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/bankless-bankless-3Zo0WP1U4ku-ukgFt3i7N-d.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this highly anticipated sequel to our 1st AI conversation with Eliezer Yudkowsky, we bring you a thought-provoking discussion with Robin Hanson, a professor of economics at George Mason University and a research associate at the Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University. </p> <p>Eliezer painted a chilling and grim picture of a future where AI ultimately kills us all​. Robin is here to provide a different perspective.</p> <p>------ ✨ DEBRIEF | Unpacking the episode:  <a href="https://www.bankless.com/debrief-robin-hanson">https://www.bankless.com/debrief-robin-hanson</a>      ------ ✨ COLLECTIBLES | Collect this episode:  <a href="https://collectibles.bankless.com/mint">https://collectibles.bankless.com/mint</a> </p> <p>------ ✨ NEW BANKLESS PRODUCT | Token Hub <a href="https://bankless.cc/TokenHubRSS">https://bankless.cc/TokenHubRSS</a>  </p> <p>------ In this episode, we explore:</p> <p>- Why Robin believes Eliezer is wrong and that we're not all going to die from an AI takeover. But will we potentially become their pets instead? - The possibility of a civil war between multiple AIs and why it's more likely than being dominated by a single superintelligent AI. - Robin's concerns about the regulation of AI and why he believes it's a greater threat than AI itself. - A fascinating analogy: why Robin thinks alien civilizations might spread like cancer? - Finally, we dive into the world of crypto and explore Robin's views on this rapidly evolving technology.</p> <p>Whether you're an AI enthusiast, a crypto advocate, or just someone intrigued by the big-picture questions about humanity and its prospects, this episode is one you won't want to miss.</p> <p>------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: </p> <p>⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM <a href="https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum">https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum</a> </p> <p>🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE <a href="https://bankless.cc/kraken">https://bankless.cc/kraken</a> </p> <p>🦄UNISWAP | ON-CHAIN MARKETPLACE <a href="https://bankless.cc/uniswap">https://bankless.cc/uniswap</a> </p> <p>👻 PHANTOM | FRIENDLY MULTICHAIN WALLET <a href="https://bankless.cc/phantom-waitlist">https://bankless.cc/phantom-waitlist</a> </p> <p>🦊METAMASK LEARN | HELPFUL WEB3 RESOURCE <a href="https://bankless.cc/MetaMask">https://bankless.cc/MetaMask</a> </p> <p>------ Topics Covered</p> <p>0:00 Intro 8:42 How Robin is Weird 10:00 Are We All Going to Die? 13:50 Eliezer’s Assumption  25:00 Intelligence, Humans, & Evolution  27:31 Eliezer Counter Point  32:00 Acceleration of Change  33:18 Comparing & Contrasting Eliezer’s Argument 35:45 A New Life Form 44:24 AI Improving Itself 47:04 Self Interested Acting Agent  49:56 Human Displacement?  55:56 Many AIs  1:00:18 Humans vs. Robots  1:04:14 Pause or Continue AI Innovation? 1:10:52 Quiet Civilization  1:14:28 Grabby Aliens  1:19:55 Are Humans Grabby? 1:27:29 Grabby Aliens Explained  1:36:16 Cancer  1:40:00 Robin’s Thoughts on Crypto  1:42:20 Closing & Disclaimers </p> <p>------ Resources:</p> <p>Robin Hanson <a href="https://twitter.com/robinhanson">https://twitter.com/robinhanson</a> </p> <p>Eliezer Yudkowsky on Bankless <a href="https://www.bankless.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky"> https://www.bankless.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky</a> </p> <p>What is the AI FOOM debate? <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/the-hanson-yudkowsky-ai-foom-debate"> https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/the-hanson-yudkowsky-ai-foom-debate</a> </p> <p>Age of Em book - Robin Hanson <a href="https://ageofem.com/">https://ageofem.com/</a> </p> <p>Grabby Aliens <a href="https://grabbyaliens.com/">https://grabbyaliens.com/</a> </p> <p>Kurzgesagt video <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I&amp;t=1s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I&amp;t=1s</a> </p> <p>----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research.</p> <p>Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: <a href="https://www.bankless.com/disclosures">https://www.bankless.com/disclosures</a> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bankless, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: 167 - Eliezer is Wrong. We’re NOT Going to Die with Robin Hanson
Pub date: 2023-04-17

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            <title>336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/148b5b352b9b4661a324865b90a02da0/">336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/148b5b352b9b4661a324865b90a02da0/&notes=336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dr Jordan B Peterson and Jeff Sandefer discuss the k-12 education machine, its origins and failures, and how the Acton Academies are making leaps to correct the system.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff Sandefer is an entrepreneur and Socratic teacher. He started his first business at 16 and graduated from Harvard Business School. Jeff has started and runs many successful companies, his most recent being Sandefer Capital Partners, an oil and gas investment firm with several billion dollars in assets. He has also started multiple academic programs and schools, such as the Acton School of Business, whose students were named the “most competitive MBA’s in the nation” by the Princeton Review. This has since extended into k-12 with the Acton Academy, a cutting-edge program that blends a one-room schoolhouse, the Socratic Method, and 21st-century technology to empower each student to change the world.</p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b-OPYyzc1CwxJ/">The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/148b5b352b9b4661a324865b90a02da0/">336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/148b5b352b9b4661a324865b90a02da0/&notes=336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast-dr-jordan-b--4zFg71v9K0-OPYyzc1CwxJ.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Dr Jordan B Peterson and Jeff Sandefer discuss the k-12 education machine, its origins and failures, and how the Acton Academies are making leaps to correct the system.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff Sandefer is an entrepreneur and Socratic teacher. He started his first business at 16 and graduated from Harvard Business School. Jeff has started and runs many successful companies, his most recent being Sandefer Capital Partners, an oil and gas investment firm with several billion dollars in assets. He has also started multiple academic programs and schools, such as the Acton School of Business, whose students were named the “most competitive MBA’s in the nation” by the Princeton Review. This has since extended into k-12 with the Acton Academy, a cutting-edge program that blends a one-room schoolhouse, the Socratic Method, and 21st-century technology to empower each student to change the world.</p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Episode: 336. How to Educate Your Children | Jeff Sandefer
Pub date: 2023-03-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/148b5b352b9b4661a324865b90a02da0/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:21:22 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ebcddbefa18d49f094f47128691d0257/">Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ebcddbefa18d49f094f47128691d0257/&notes=Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Special guest, Lulie Tanett, asked me if she could come on my podcast and interview me about religion. Lulie and Peter ask me numerous religion-related questions such as:</p>
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 <li>How is the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (i.e. Mormon church) similar and different from Deutsch's Four Strands worldview? </li>
 <li>What might the Deutsch Four Strands worldview learn from religion?</li>
  <li>In a modern world, what (if anything) can religion still teach us? </li>
  <li>Is religion an ally or a foe of a rational worldview? </li>
  <li>For what matter, what is the most widely accepted rational worldview? </li>
  <li>What about supernatural truth claims of religion? Can they be reconciled with a rational worldview? </li>
  <li>How was the Omega Point theory (from the final chapter of Fabric of Reality) informed by religion?</li>
  <li>What is the Omega Point theory? Why did Deutsch abandon it (in Beginning of Infinity)? What did he replace it with?</li>
  <li>Is Frank Tipler (creator of the Omega Point theory) a nutter or a mad genius?</li>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ebcddbefa18d49f094f47128691d0257/">Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ebcddbefa18d49f094f47128691d0257/&notes=Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Special guest, Lulie Tanett, asked me if she could come on my podcast and interview me about religion. Lulie and Peter ask me numerous religion-related questions such as:</p>
<ul>
 <li>How is the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (i.e. Mormon church) similar and different from Deutsch's Four Strands worldview? </li>
 <li>What might the Deutsch Four Strands worldview learn from religion?</li>
  <li>In a modern world, what (if anything) can religion still teach us? </li>
  <li>Is religion an ally or a foe of a rational worldview? </li>
  <li>For what matter, what is the most widely accepted rational worldview? </li>
  <li>What about supernatural truth claims of religion? Can they be reconciled with a rational worldview? </li>
  <li>How was the Omega Point theory (from the final chapter of Fabric of Reality) informed by religion?</li>
  <li>What is the Omega Point theory? Why did Deutsch abandon it (in Beginning of Infinity)? What did he replace it with?</li>
  <li>Is Frank Tipler (creator of the Omega Point theory) a nutter or a mad genius?</li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 56: Rationality, Religion, and the Omega Point
Pub date: 2023-04-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ebcddbefa18d49f094f47128691d0257/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 06:50:54 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</itunes:author>
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            <title>Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fqxi-podcast-the-foundational-questions-NpcGhkW7EZ5/">FQxI Podcast</a> (LS 32 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1da9b9e6b25d41d4bfb3f39170ae0f74/">Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1da9b9e6b25d41d4bfb3f39170ae0f74/&notes=Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fqxi-podcast-the-foundational-questions-BHV_pEmoluF-NpcGhkW7EZ5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion of irreversibility. With Logan Chipkin.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Foundational Questions Institute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fqxi-podcast-the-foundational-questions-NpcGhkW7EZ5/">FQxI Podcast</a> (LS 32 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1da9b9e6b25d41d4bfb3f39170ae0f74/">Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1da9b9e6b25d41d4bfb3f39170ae0f74/&notes=Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fqxi-podcast-the-foundational-questions-BHV_pEmoluF-NpcGhkW7EZ5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion of irreversibility. With Logan Chipkin.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Foundational Questions Institute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: FQxI Podcast
Episode: Constructor Theory and Irreversibility: A conversation with Chiara Marletto and Vlatko Vedral on a novel unification between information theory and thermodynamics and their recent experiment that tested, and corroborated, the constructor theoretic notion...
Pub date: 2022-04-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/1da9b9e6b25d41d4bfb3f39170ae0f74/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Foundational Questions Institute, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:06:49 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>#37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-zrk3Tgb0yC9/">Increments</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85/">#37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85/&notes=#37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-9TYtdIe_fgH-zrk3Tgb0yC9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We're joined today by Matt Bateman, one of the founders of Higher Ground Education, to discuss the Montessori method of education and how it compares to other teaching methodologies. Get ready for tiny furniture, putting on your jacket upside down, and teaching your toddler to make eggs benedict. We discuss: </p>

<ul>
<li>Maria Montessori </li>
<li>What is a Montessori education (besides tiny furniture)? </li>
<li>How Montessori classrooms differ from regular ones </li>
<li>Why long periods of interrupted problem solving is important for a child's development<br /></li>
<li>How Montessori integrates with technology </li>
<li>Drawbacks of traditional methods of testing and grading, and how they might be amended </li>
<li>The importance of cultivating a love of work </li>
<li>How Matt wants to reform high school education</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Bio</strong>: </p>

<p>Matt is one of the founders of <a href="https://www.tohigherground.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Higher Ground Education</a>, a worldwide Montessori network. He runs Montessorium, Higher Ground’s think tank. He holds a PhD in philosophy from the University of Pennsylvania, where he focused on the philosophy of science. Make sure to follow him on <a href="https://twitter.com/mbateman" rel="nofollow noopener">twitter</a> for some golden education nuggets </p>

<p><strong>References</strong>: </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcastaddict.com/episode/116009974" rel="nofollow noopener">Matt on the Where We Go Next</a> (formerly New Liberals) podcast. </li>
<li><a href="https://montessorium.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Montessorium</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thechalkboardreview.com/latest/vocational-training-for-the-soul-bringing-the-meaning-of-work-to-schools" rel="nofollow noopener">Vocational Training for the Soul: Bringing the Meaning of Work to Schools</a></li>
<li><a href="https://montessorium.com/courses/the-history-of-education" rel="nofollow noopener">Matt's History of Education Course</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social media everywhere</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Check us out on youtube at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ</a></li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Matt Bateman.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="payment">Support Increments</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-zrk3Tgb0yC9/">Increments</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85/">#37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85/&notes=#37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-9TYtdIe_fgH-zrk3Tgb0yC9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We're joined today by Matt Bateman, one of the founders of Higher Ground Education, to discuss the Montessori method of education and how it compares to other teaching methodologies. Get ready for tiny furniture, putting on your jacket upside down, and teaching your toddler to make eggs benedict. We discuss: </p>

<ul>
<li>Maria Montessori </li>
<li>What is a Montessori education (besides tiny furniture)? </li>
<li>How Montessori classrooms differ from regular ones </li>
<li>Why long periods of interrupted problem solving is important for a child's development<br /></li>
<li>How Montessori integrates with technology </li>
<li>Drawbacks of traditional methods of testing and grading, and how they might be amended </li>
<li>The importance of cultivating a love of work </li>
<li>How Matt wants to reform high school education</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Bio</strong>: </p>

<p>Matt is one of the founders of <a href="https://www.tohigherground.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Higher Ground Education</a>, a worldwide Montessori network. He runs Montessorium, Higher Ground’s think tank. He holds a PhD in philosophy from the University of Pennsylvania, where he focused on the philosophy of science. Make sure to follow him on <a href="https://twitter.com/mbateman" rel="nofollow noopener">twitter</a> for some golden education nuggets </p>

<p><strong>References</strong>: </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcastaddict.com/episode/116009974" rel="nofollow noopener">Matt on the Where We Go Next</a> (formerly New Liberals) podcast. </li>
<li><a href="https://montessorium.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Montessorium</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thechalkboardreview.com/latest/vocational-training-for-the-soul-bringing-the-meaning-of-work-to-schools" rel="nofollow noopener">Vocational Training for the Soul: Bringing the Meaning of Work to Schools</a></li>
<li><a href="https://montessorium.com/courses/the-history-of-education" rel="nofollow noopener">Matt's History of Education Course</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social media everywhere</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Check us out on youtube at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ</a></li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Matt Bateman.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="payment">Support Increments</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Increments
Episode: #37 - Montessori Education w/ Matt Bateman
Pub date: 2022-02-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a95e6ed265a84c129111bfbbf2814f85/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 09:54:33 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>



            
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            <title>#41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-zrk3Tgb0yC9/">Increments</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9/">#41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9/&notes=#41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-9TYtdIe_fgH-zrk3Tgb0yC9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We're joined by the wonderful Lulie Tanett to talk about effective altruism, pulling spouses out of burning buildings, and why you should prefer critical rationalism to Bayesianism for your mom's sake. Buckle up! </p>

<p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lulie's recent experience at EA Global </li>
<li>Bayesianism and how it differs from critical rationalism </li>
<li>Common arguments in favor of Bayesianism </li>
<li>Taking Children Seriously </li>
<li>What it was like for Lulie growing up without going to school </li>
<li>The Alexander Technique, Internal Family Systems, Gendlin's Focusing, and Belief Reporting </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.eaglobal.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">EA Global</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fitz-claridge.com/taking-children-seriously/" rel="nofollow noopener">Taking Children Seriously</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://expandingawareness.org/blog/what-is-the-alexander-technique/" rel="nofollow noopener">Alexander Technique</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ifs-institute.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Internal Family Systems</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focusing_(psychotherapy)" rel="nofollow noopener">Gendlin Focusing</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social Media Everywhere</strong> <br />
Follow Lulie on Twitter @reasonisfun. Follow us at @VadenMasrani, @BennyChugg, @IncrementsPod, or on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a>. </p>

<p>Report your beliefs and focus your Gendlin's at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>.  </p><p>Special Guest: Lulie Tanett.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="payment">Support Increments</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-zrk3Tgb0yC9/">Increments</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9/">#41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9/&notes=#41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/increments-ben-chugg-and-vaden-masrani-9TYtdIe_fgH-zrk3Tgb0yC9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We're joined by the wonderful Lulie Tanett to talk about effective altruism, pulling spouses out of burning buildings, and why you should prefer critical rationalism to Bayesianism for your mom's sake. Buckle up! </p>

<p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lulie's recent experience at EA Global </li>
<li>Bayesianism and how it differs from critical rationalism </li>
<li>Common arguments in favor of Bayesianism </li>
<li>Taking Children Seriously </li>
<li>What it was like for Lulie growing up without going to school </li>
<li>The Alexander Technique, Internal Family Systems, Gendlin's Focusing, and Belief Reporting </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>References</strong> </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.eaglobal.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">EA Global</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fitz-claridge.com/taking-children-seriously/" rel="nofollow noopener">Taking Children Seriously</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://expandingawareness.org/blog/what-is-the-alexander-technique/" rel="nofollow noopener">Alexander Technique</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ifs-institute.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Internal Family Systems</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focusing_(psychotherapy)" rel="nofollow noopener">Gendlin Focusing</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social Media Everywhere</strong> <br />
Follow Lulie on Twitter @reasonisfun. Follow us at @VadenMasrani, @BennyChugg, @IncrementsPod, or on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">Youtube</a>. </p>

<p>Report your beliefs and focus your Gendlin's at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>.  </p><p>Special Guest: Lulie Tanett.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="payment">Support Increments</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Increments
Episode: #41 - Parenting, Epistemology, and EA (w/ Lulie Tanett)
Pub date: 2022-06-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d6518d1726fa4196abe0e28df7a385b9/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 09:54:14 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>



            
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            <title>#126 - KEITH RABOIS</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/pod-of-jake-jake-Qzy5K68IVwg/">POD OF JAKE</a> (LS 34 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b/">#126 - KEITH RABOIS</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b/&notes=#126 - KEITH RABOIS">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/pod-of-jake-jake-Gyf3gedKorX-Qzy5K68IVwg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith is the CEO &amp; Co-Founder of <a href="https://open.store/">OpenStore</a> and a General Partner at <a href="https://foundersfund.com/">Founders Fund</a>. He is an experienced technology executive and entrepreneur, a prolific investor, and a self-described contrarian. Keith previously served as a General Partner at Khosla Ventures. Before that, he was COO at Square and served in influential roles at LinkedIn. He also co-founded Opendoor. Keith began his career in technology as a senior executive at PayPal. He has since invested early in many great companies including YouTube, Airbnb, Palantir, DoorDash, Stripe, Quora, Yammer, Affirm, Eventbrite, and many others. He also served as a Board Member from inception to IPO at Yelp and Xoom. Follow Keith on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/rabois?lang=en" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@rabois</a>.</p>
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<p>[0:00] - OpenStore's early momentum and fundraising strategy</p>
<p>[5:35] - How an decentralized department store could unlock eCommerce growth</p>
<p>[12:33] - Introducing OpenStore Drive and why it is great for Shopify store owners</p>
<p>[16:49] - OpenStore's horizontal approach and why Keith believes it is best</p>
<p>[18:41] - OpenStore’s business acquisition strategy and thoughtful process design</p>
<p>[24:09] - How learnings from OpenStore’s initial acquisitions have led to improvements</p>
<p>[28:56] - Why OpenStore’s business is resilient in various macroeconomic environments</p>
<p>[35:06] - Acquisition offers and accept rates as metrics and countermetrics at OpenStore</p>
<p>[38:45] - Introducing Gumdrop which matches long-tail influencers to long-tail SKUs</p>
<p>[41:40] - The advantages of aggregation that benefit OpenStore’s business model</p>
<p>[45:19] - Building a great company culture; finding &amp; developing undiscovered talent</p>
<p>[51:11] - The most high-leverage activities Keith allocates time to as OpenStore's CEO</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>homeofjake.com</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from JAKE, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/pod-of-jake-jake-Qzy5K68IVwg/">POD OF JAKE</a> (LS 34 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b/">#126 - KEITH RABOIS</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-04-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b/&notes=#126 - KEITH RABOIS">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/pod-of-jake-jake-Gyf3gedKorX-Qzy5K68IVwg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith is the CEO &amp; Co-Founder of <a href="https://open.store/">OpenStore</a> and a General Partner at <a href="https://foundersfund.com/">Founders Fund</a>. He is an experienced technology executive and entrepreneur, a prolific investor, and a self-described contrarian. Keith previously served as a General Partner at Khosla Ventures. Before that, he was COO at Square and served in influential roles at LinkedIn. He also co-founded Opendoor. Keith began his career in technology as a senior executive at PayPal. He has since invested early in many great companies including YouTube, Airbnb, Palantir, DoorDash, Stripe, Quora, Yammer, Affirm, Eventbrite, and many others. He also served as a Board Member from inception to IPO at Yelp and Xoom. Follow Keith on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/rabois?lang=en" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@rabois</a>.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>[0:00] - OpenStore's early momentum and fundraising strategy</p>
<p>[5:35] - How an decentralized department store could unlock eCommerce growth</p>
<p>[12:33] - Introducing OpenStore Drive and why it is great for Shopify store owners</p>
<p>[16:49] - OpenStore's horizontal approach and why Keith believes it is best</p>
<p>[18:41] - OpenStore’s business acquisition strategy and thoughtful process design</p>
<p>[24:09] - How learnings from OpenStore’s initial acquisitions have led to improvements</p>
<p>[28:56] - Why OpenStore’s business is resilient in various macroeconomic environments</p>
<p>[35:06] - Acquisition offers and accept rates as metrics and countermetrics at OpenStore</p>
<p>[38:45] - Introducing Gumdrop which matches long-tail influencers to long-tail SKUs</p>
<p>[41:40] - The advantages of aggregation that benefit OpenStore’s business model</p>
<p>[45:19] - Building a great company culture; finding &amp; developing undiscovered talent</p>
<p>[51:11] - The most high-leverage activities Keith allocates time to as OpenStore's CEO</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>homeofjake.com</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from JAKE, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: POD OF JAKE
Episode: #126 - KEITH RABOIS
Pub date: 2023-04-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f634fda06cdf490289ce51728797fa0b/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 07:07:39 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca/">Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-11-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I interview physicist and science writer Sabine Hossenfelder. She is a Research Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies, where she leads the Analog Systems for Gravity Duals group and researches quantum gravity. We discuss ideas from her book, Lost in Math: How Beauty Leads Physics Astray, such as the role of philosophical ideas of beauty, naturalness, and elegance in fundamental physics and the sociological factors that affect scientific research. We also discuss often misunderstood ideas in fundamental physics, such as the difference between a Grand Unified Theory and a Theory of Everything, and the difference between time-invariance and time reversibility.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's Twitter - @skdh</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's book, Lost in Math: How Beauty Leads Physics Astray - https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Math-Beauty-Physics-Astray-ebook/dp/B0763L6YR7</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's website - http://sabinehossenfelder.com</p>
<p>Dr. Hossendelder's blog - http://backreaction.blogspot.com</p>
<p>My appearance on Christofer Lovgren's podcast, Do Explain - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-big-three-case-against-government-logan-chipkin/id1482313214?i=1000457352171</p>
<p>My recent article with Areo Magazine, People and the Cosmos: Constructor Theory - https://areomagazine.com/2019/11/25/people-and-the-cosmos-constructor-theory/</p>
<p>Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/Fallibleanimals</p>
<p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>
<p><br /></p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca/">Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-11-29<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I interview physicist and science writer Sabine Hossenfelder. She is a Research Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies, where she leads the Analog Systems for Gravity Duals group and researches quantum gravity. We discuss ideas from her book, Lost in Math: How Beauty Leads Physics Astray, such as the role of philosophical ideas of beauty, naturalness, and elegance in fundamental physics and the sociological factors that affect scientific research. We also discuss often misunderstood ideas in fundamental physics, such as the difference between a Grand Unified Theory and a Theory of Everything, and the difference between time-invariance and time reversibility.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's Twitter - @skdh</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's book, Lost in Math: How Beauty Leads Physics Astray - https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Math-Beauty-Physics-Astray-ebook/dp/B0763L6YR7</p>
<p>Dr. Hossenfelder's website - http://sabinehossenfelder.com</p>
<p>Dr. Hossendelder's blog - http://backreaction.blogspot.com</p>
<p>My appearance on Christofer Lovgren's podcast, Do Explain - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-big-three-case-against-government-logan-chipkin/id1482313214?i=1000457352171</p>
<p>My recent article with Areo Magazine, People and the Cosmos: Constructor Theory - https://areomagazine.com/2019/11/25/people-and-the-cosmos-constructor-theory/</p>
<p>Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/Fallibleanimals</p>
<p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>
<p><br /></p>

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Podcast: Fallible Animals
Episode: Fallible Animals Episode 10: Interview with Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder
Pub date: 2019-11-29

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/4bf7eb5c0e3d4f768b76861dfadc69ca/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:45:01 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Logan Chipkin</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Fallible Animals</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:46:10</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Logan Chipkin</itunes:author>
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            <title>On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge &amp; Wealth - with Logan Chipkin</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/scaling-knowledge-moritz-wallawitsch-DCwpf6dNqW1/">Scaling Knowledge</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466/">On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge & Wealth - with Logan Chipkin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466/&notes=On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge & Wealth - with Logan Chipkin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/scaling-knowledge-AB0UrJ_WqjK-DCwpf6dNqW1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I had fun chatting with my friend <a href="https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan" target="_blank">Logan Chipkin</a> about various topics and misconceptions related to the growth of knowledge and wealth including:&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
 <li>Austrian Economics and Critical Rationalism</li>
 <li>Black Box View of Government</li>
 <li>Economic Creationism</li>
 <li>Time Imperialists</li>
  <li>Why Equality is undesirable</li>
  <li>Moralizing</li>
  <li>Anarcho Capitalism</li>
  <li>Austrian Economics</li>
</ul>
<p>Subscribe to Scaling Knowledge: <a href="https://scalingknowledge.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://scalingknowledge.substack.com</a></p>
<p>Follow Logan on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</a></p>
<p>Follow Moritz on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/MoritzW42" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/MoritzW42</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Moritz Wallawitsch, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/scaling-knowledge-moritz-wallawitsch-DCwpf6dNqW1/">Scaling Knowledge</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466/">On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge & Wealth - with Logan Chipkin</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466/&notes=On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge & Wealth - with Logan Chipkin">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/scaling-knowledge-AB0UrJ_WqjK-DCwpf6dNqW1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I had fun chatting with my friend <a href="https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan" target="_blank">Logan Chipkin</a> about various topics and misconceptions related to the growth of knowledge and wealth including:&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
 <li>Austrian Economics and Critical Rationalism</li>
 <li>Black Box View of Government</li>
 <li>Economic Creationism</li>
 <li>Time Imperialists</li>
  <li>Why Equality is undesirable</li>
  <li>Moralizing</li>
  <li>Anarcho Capitalism</li>
  <li>Austrian Economics</li>
</ul>
<p>Subscribe to Scaling Knowledge: <a href="https://scalingknowledge.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://scalingknowledge.substack.com</a></p>
<p>Follow Logan on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</a></p>
<p>Follow Moritz on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/MoritzW42" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/MoritzW42</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Moritz Wallawitsch, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Scaling Knowledge
Episode: On Accelerating the Growth of Knowledge & Wealth - with Logan Chipkin
Pub date: 2023-03-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/de2ddc4aafa549ce9f9f37c5334ba466/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Moritz Wallawitsch, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:42:19 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Moritz Wallawitsch</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Scaling Knowledge</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:15:18</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Moritz Wallawitsch</itunes:author>
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            <title>Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a/">Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a/&notes=Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is my interview with David Deutsch, Visiting Professor of physics at the Centre for Quantum Computation, the Clarendon Laboratory, Oxford University and an Honorary Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford. We discuss the constructor theory of information, some of its conjectured principles, the unification of classical and quantum information, and more. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Information paper - https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1405/1405.5563.pdf</p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a/">Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a/&notes=Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is my interview with David Deutsch, Visiting Professor of physics at the Centre for Quantum Computation, the Clarendon Laboratory, Oxford University and an Honorary Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford. We discuss the constructor theory of information, some of its conjectured principles, the unification of classical and quantum information, and more. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Information paper - https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1405/1405.5563.pdf</p>

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Podcast: Fallible Animals
Episode: Constructor Theory of Information with David Deutsch
Pub date: 2021-01-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f966b12e2dc34175bdda43ff0766ed9a/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Logan Chipkin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:41:38 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Logan Chipkin</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Fallible Animals</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:36:09</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Logan Chipkin</itunes:author>
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            <title>Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d/">Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I interview Oxford physicist Chiara Marletto, who has been working on constructor theory for several years. She's published papers on its applications to various fields, including those of information, thermodynamics, life, and probability. We discuss the origins and motivations of constructor theory, problems the theory may solve, current research programs, the universal constructor, response to potential criticisms, why constructor theory can explain more of Reality than the prevailing conception, and more.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Constructor Theory Homepage - www.constructortheory.org</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Thermodynamics - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Thd-ArXiv-2.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Probability - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20150883.full_.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Life - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ct-life.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Information - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ct-info.pdf</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Twitter - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FChipkinLogan&amp;redir_token=JRBIWrMCvrAtgpzJHchL_r6ghnl8MTU3MDY0Mzk2NUAxNTcwNTU3NTY1&amp;v=i5apUHd7o0A&amp;event=video_description" rel="ugc" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</a></p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d/">Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I interview Oxford physicist Chiara Marletto, who has been working on constructor theory for several years. She's published papers on its applications to various fields, including those of information, thermodynamics, life, and probability. We discuss the origins and motivations of constructor theory, problems the theory may solve, current research programs, the universal constructor, response to potential criticisms, why constructor theory can explain more of Reality than the prevailing conception, and more.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Constructor Theory Homepage - www.constructortheory.org</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Thermodynamics - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Thd-ArXiv-2.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Probability - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20150883.full_.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Life - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ct-life.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Information - http://constructortheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ct-info.pdf</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Twitter - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FChipkinLogan&amp;redir_token=JRBIWrMCvrAtgpzJHchL_r6ghnl8MTU3MDY0Mzk2NUAxNTcwNTU3NTY1&amp;v=i5apUHd7o0A&amp;event=video_description" rel="ugc" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</a></p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>

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Podcast: Fallible Animals
Episode: Fallible Animals Episode 6: Interview with Physicist Chiara Marletto
Pub date: 2019-10-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/af2961cf3b7543bc94898e8f7777372d/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:41:15 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Logan Chipkin</author>



            
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            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>01:05:08</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Logan Chipkin</itunes:author>
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            <title>Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c/">Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-11-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We discuss the difference between laws versus principles as elucidated by constructor theory, and why it matters. Constructor theory may be thought of as a 'theory of theories' whose principles constrain other theories. Just as these subsidiary, object-level theories constrain the behavior of physical phenomena, so too constructor theory, as a meta-level theory, constrains the behavior of object-level theories both known and unknown. Constructor theoretic principles can also constrain and solve problems with theories that explain inherently unpredictable phenomena, such as those of biology, economics, and epistemology.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>My patreon page - https://www.patreon.com/Fallibleanimals</p>
<p>Economic Creationism - <a href="https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/economic-creationism/">https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/economic-creationism/</a></p>
<p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>
<p>Foundational Paper on Constructor Theory - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.7439.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Life - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1407.0681.pdf</p>
<p>The Upright Thinkers - https://www.amazon.com/Upright-Thinkers-Journey-Living-Understanding/dp/0307908232</p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c/">Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-11-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c/&notes=Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We discuss the difference between laws versus principles as elucidated by constructor theory, and why it matters. Constructor theory may be thought of as a 'theory of theories' whose principles constrain other theories. Just as these subsidiary, object-level theories constrain the behavior of physical phenomena, so too constructor theory, as a meta-level theory, constrains the behavior of object-level theories both known and unknown. Constructor theoretic principles can also constrain and solve problems with theories that explain inherently unpredictable phenomena, such as those of biology, economics, and epistemology.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>My patreon page - https://www.patreon.com/Fallibleanimals</p>
<p>Economic Creationism - <a href="https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/economic-creationism/">https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/economic-creationism/</a></p>
<p>Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan</p>
<p>Articles - www.loganchipkin.com</p>
<p>Foundational Paper on Constructor Theory - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.7439.pdf</p>
<p>Constructor Theory of Life - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1407.0681.pdf</p>
<p>The Upright Thinkers - https://www.amazon.com/Upright-Thinkers-Journey-Living-Understanding/dp/0307908232</p>

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Podcast: Fallible Animals
Episode: Fallible Animals Episode 9: Laws vs. Principles
Pub date: 2019-11-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/9b01c76ad82d4678bcf25263c680351c/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:40:58 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Logan Chipkin</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Fallible Animals</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:24:00</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Logan Chipkin</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf/">The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf/&notes=The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I speak with physicist David Deutsch about the universal constructor, a machine that can be programmed to cause any physically possible transformation. &nbsp;</p>
<p>Note-this interview was recorded in early 2022.</p>
<p>In the time since this interview was recorded, David has stated that disobedience is by far the primary reason that humans and human societies aren't universal constructors.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>David Deutsch's website - https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/.</p>
<p>Constructor theory website - https://www.constructortheory.org/.</p>
<p>Logan Chipkin's website - www.loganchipkin.com/.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>David Deutsch Twitter - https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf.</p>
<p>Logan Chipkin Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan.</p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-logan-chipkin-t8zXG-mJ6FM/">Fallible Animals</a> (LS 27 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf/">The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf/&notes=The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/fallible-animals-AZyzBrN3JeU-t8zXG-mJ6FM.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I speak with physicist David Deutsch about the universal constructor, a machine that can be programmed to cause any physically possible transformation. &nbsp;</p>
<p>Note-this interview was recorded in early 2022.</p>
<p>In the time since this interview was recorded, David has stated that disobedience is by far the primary reason that humans and human societies aren't universal constructors.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>David Deutsch's website - https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/.</p>
<p>Constructor theory website - https://www.constructortheory.org/.</p>
<p>Logan Chipkin's website - www.loganchipkin.com/.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>David Deutsch Twitter - https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf.</p>
<p>Logan Chipkin Twitter - https://twitter.com/ChipkinLogan.</p>

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Podcast: Fallible Animals
Episode: The Universal Constructor with David Deutsch
Pub date: 2023-03-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/586b7eeb8ce647aa925b17a332528ecf/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 18:40:22 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Logan Chipkin</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Fallible Animals</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:25:32</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Logan Chipkin</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3/">Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3/&notes=Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we continue our discussion of <a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/universal-explainers">Dwarkesh Patel's article "Contra David Deutsch on AI"</a> compared to <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ToKTeacher/status/1564027760267632641">Brett Hall's tweet on IQ theory</a>. This time we concentrate on criticisms of Patel's Hardware+Scaling hypothesis. To Patel's credit, he admits that his hypothesis is problematic.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Peter asks Bruce about why Brett Hall believes explanatory universality implies 'equal intellectual capacity'. Bruce gives a steelmanned version of Brett's theory that takes us through an explanation of what explanatory universality is and how it relates to computational universality and the Turing Principle.&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3/">Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3/&notes=Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode, we continue our discussion of <a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/universal-explainers">Dwarkesh Patel's article "Contra David Deutsch on AI"</a> compared to <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ToKTeacher/status/1564027760267632641">Brett Hall's tweet on IQ theory</a>. This time we concentrate on criticisms of Patel's Hardware+Scaling hypothesis. To Patel's credit, he admits that his hypothesis is problematic.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Peter asks Bruce about why Brett Hall believes explanatory universality implies 'equal intellectual capacity'. Bruce gives a steelmanned version of Brett's theory that takes us through an explanation of what explanatory universality is and how it relates to computational universality and the Turing Principle.&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 54: Computational and Explanatory Universality (IQ part 2)
Pub date: 2023-03-13

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/22c444e6cbab4e8f8c82e98dbbe11fc3/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:01:57 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Theory of Anything</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>02:09:50</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</itunes:author>
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            <title>Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2/">Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-02-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2/&notes=Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/universal-explainers">Dwarkesh Patel published an article called "Contra David Deutsch on AI"</a>. This article was actually a defense of IQ theory against the charge (often made by fans of David Deutsch) that the existence of Explanatory Universality destroys IQ theory entirely. But how accurately does Dwarkesh portray Deutsch's view? (For that matter, how accurately do fans of David Deutsch portray Deutsch's viewpoint?) And how good are Patel's criticisms of Deutsch's view?&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ToKTeacher/status/1564027760267632641">With some help from a tweet from Brett Hall on IQ theory</a>, we compare and contrast Patel's and Hall's viewpoints and lay out the disagreements that exist.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Brett argues that Explanatory Universality implies we are all equally intelligent (i.e. have an equal capacity to learn) and that the only difference between people is our levels of interest in the knowledge that currently society happens to value. Is he correct? Or are the experiments cited by Patel wrong? If so, how?</p>
<p>Or to put this another way, if we did demonstrate via an experiment that some people do gain knowledge faster than others (as Patel claims), would that refute the theory of explanatory universality? Or are Brett's claims not actually implications of explanatory universality?</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-and-_IMTfRBcjg5/">The Theory of Anything</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2/">Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-02-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2/&notes=Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-theory-of-anything-bruce-nielson-tKj5u7INsMl-_IMTfRBcjg5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/universal-explainers">Dwarkesh Patel published an article called "Contra David Deutsch on AI"</a>. This article was actually a defense of IQ theory against the charge (often made by fans of David Deutsch) that the existence of Explanatory Universality destroys IQ theory entirely. But how accurately does Dwarkesh portray Deutsch's view? (For that matter, how accurately do fans of David Deutsch portray Deutsch's viewpoint?) And how good are Patel's criticisms of Deutsch's view?&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/ToKTeacher/status/1564027760267632641">With some help from a tweet from Brett Hall on IQ theory</a>, we compare and contrast Patel's and Hall's viewpoints and lay out the disagreements that exist.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Brett argues that Explanatory Universality implies we are all equally intelligent (i.e. have an equal capacity to learn) and that the only difference between people is our levels of interest in the knowledge that currently society happens to value. Is he correct? Or are the experiments cited by Patel wrong? If so, how?</p>
<p>Or to put this another way, if we did demonstrate via an experiment that some people do gain knowledge faster than others (as Patel claims), would that refute the theory of explanatory universality? Or are Brett's claims not actually implications of explanatory universality?</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Theory of Anything
Episode: Episode 53: Universality and IQ - Part 1
Pub date: 2023-02-17

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/be34c0ccfe7241f2a33738f2fa8316f2/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:01:31 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:20:19</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Bruce Nielson and Peter Johansen</itunes:author>
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            <title>The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-aWlXzjy4T2I/">Naval</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c/">The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-07-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c/&notes=The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-FsoYl71G9PV-aWlXzjy4T2I.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Transcript http://nav.al/infinity</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Naval, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-aWlXzjy4T2I/">Naval</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c/">The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-07-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c/&notes=The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-FsoYl71G9PV-aWlXzjy4T2I.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Transcript http://nav.al/infinity</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Naval, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Naval
Episode: The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1
Pub date: 2021-07-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/197600d8169d4ffa8a2064a732df4a5c/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:50:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Naval</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:06:10</itunes:duration>
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            <title>The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-aWlXzjy4T2I/">Naval</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679/">The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679/&notes=The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-FsoYl71G9PV-aWlXzjy4T2I.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Transcript http://nav.al/infinity-1</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Naval, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-aWlXzjy4T2I/">Naval</a> (LS 66 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679/">The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679/&notes=The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/naval-naval-FsoYl71G9PV-aWlXzjy4T2I.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Transcript http://nav.al/infinity-1</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Naval, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Naval
Episode: The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2
Pub date: 2021-12-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3945228cc7f84f65b9ada279d981b679/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:49:32 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings &amp; Discussion.</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f07a20fc6de148ae9119fa754496079c/">Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings & Discussion.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f07a20fc6de148ae9119fa754496079c/&notes=Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings & Discussion.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode - unlike the other also titled "Work and Heat" - we actually cover the content of Chiara's book and go through some readings. We look at Work and Heat through the lens of Constructor Theory. How so-called "work-like" transformations are reversible but "heat-like" are not and hence we have an avenue to an exact expression of the second law without approximations or talk of what will "most likely" or "probably" happen. We also go over some discussions about the universal constructor.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f07a20fc6de148ae9119fa754496079c/">Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings & Discussion.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f07a20fc6de148ae9119fa754496079c/&notes=Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings & Discussion.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode - unlike the other also titled "Work and Heat" - we actually cover the content of Chiara's book and go through some readings. We look at Work and Heat through the lens of Constructor Theory. How so-called "work-like" transformations are reversible but "heat-like" are not and hence we have an avenue to an exact expression of the second law without approximations or talk of what will "most likely" or "probably" happen. We also go over some discussions about the universal constructor.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ToKCast
Episode: Ep 122: ”Work and Heat” - Chiara Marletto’s ”The Science of Can and Can’t” Chapter 6 Readings & Discussion.
Pub date: 2022-06-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f07a20fc6de148ae9119fa754496079c/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:22:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:duration>00:58:22</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Brett Hall</itunes:author>
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            <title>#662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ffd787f094840ba885b704f80b9255b</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ffd787f094840ba885b704f80b9255b/">#662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4ffd787f094840ba885b704f80b9255b/&notes=#662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><em>Brought to you by&nbsp;</em></strong><a href="http://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>LinkedIn Jobs</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;recruitment platform with 900M+ users,&nbsp;</em></strong><a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>FreshBooks</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;cloud-based small business accounting software, and </em></strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>Athletic Greens’s AG1</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement. </em></strong></p><p><strong>David Deutsch</strong> (<a href="https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@DavidDeutschOxf</a>) is a visiting professor of physics at the Centre for Quantum Computation, a part of the Clarendon Laboratory at Oxford University, and an honorary fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford. He works on fundamental issues in physics, particularly the quantum theory of computation and information and especially constructor theory, which he is proposing as a new way of formulating laws of nature. He is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Implications-ebook/dp/B005KGJX8E/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Fabric of Reality</em></strong></a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World-ebook/dp/B005DXR5ZC/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Beginning of Infinity</em></strong></a>, and he is an advocate of the philosophy of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Karl Popper</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Naval Ravikant </strong>(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.getairchat.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Airchat</strong></a><strong> </strong>and <a href="https://www.angellist.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AngelList</strong></a>.<strong> </strong>He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. You can see his latest musings on <a href="https://getairchat.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Airchat</a> and subscribe to <a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Naval</em></a>, his podcast on wealth and happiness, on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>,<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7qZAVw03FuurfYnWIWwkHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1454097755/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also find his blog at <a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nav.al</a>.</p><p>For more Naval-plus-Tim, check out <a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my wildly popular interview with him from 2015</a> (nominated for “Podcast of the Year”) and our <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/14/naval/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation from 2020</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Naval also co-piloted the interviews with Ethereum creator <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vitalik Buterin</a> and famed investor <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/10/28/chris-dixon-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Dixon</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>LinkedIn Jobs</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;Whether you are looking to hire now for a critical role or thinking about needs that you may have in the future,&nbsp;<a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a>&nbsp;can help. LinkedIn screens candidates for the hard and soft skills you’re looking for and puts your job in front of candidates looking for job opportunities that match what you have to offer.</p><p>Using LinkedIn’s active community of more than 900 million professionals worldwide,&nbsp;<a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>LinkedIn Jobs</strong></a>&nbsp;can help you find and hire the right person faster.&nbsp;<strong>When your business is ready to make that next hire, find the right person with LinkedIn Jobs. And now, you can post a job for free.</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Just visit LinkedIn.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FreshBooks</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;I’ve been talking about&nbsp;<a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FreshBooks</strong></a>—an&nbsp;<strong>all-in-one invoicing + payments + accounting solution</strong>—for years now. Many entrepreneurs, as well as the contractors and freelancers that I work with, use it all the time.</p><p><strong>FreshBooks&nbsp;makes it super easy to track things like expenses, project time, and client info and then merge it all into great-looking invoices.&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>And right now, there’s a special offer just for my listeners.&nbsp;Head over to FreshBooks.com/Tim to get 90% off your FreshBooks subscription for 4 months</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;I get asked all the time, “If you could use only one supplement, what would it be?” My answer is usually&nbsp;<a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AG1</a>&nbsp;by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athletic&nbsp;Greens</a>, my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in&nbsp;<em>The 4-Hour Body</em>&nbsp;in 2010 and did not get paid to do so. I do my best with nutrient-dense meals, of course, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AG</a>&nbsp;further covers my bases with vitamins, minerals, and whole-food-sourced micronutrients that support gut health and the immune system.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Right now,&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;is offering you their Vitamin D Liquid Formula free with your first subscription purchase</strong>—a vital nutrient for a strong immune system and strong bones.&nbsp;<strong>Visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AthleticGreens.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;to claim this special offer today and receive the free Vitamin D Liquid Formula (and 5 free travel packs) with your first subscription purchase!&nbsp;</strong>That’s up to a one-year supply of Vitamin D as added value when you try their delicious and comprehensive all-in-one daily greens product.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p>[08:03] The impact <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Implications-ebook/dp/014027541X/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fabric of Reality</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World-ebook/dp/0143121359/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beginning of Infinity</a> have had on Naval.</p><p>[10:07] The four strands.</p><p>[13:04] Dispelling common misconceptions about science.</p><p>[19:26] How does knowledge grow?</p><p>[24:26] The benefits of understanding the four strands.</p><p>[32:47] How quantum computing arose from trying to test a multiverse theory.</p><p>[37:40] What a good explanation looks like.</p><p>[42:43] How do conjecture and criticism give us a basis for optimism?</p><p>[48:38] Translating knowledge into action.</p><p>[51:20] Artificial intelligence (AI) vs. artificial general intelligence (AGI).</p><p>[56:54] AGI is people! But how do we ensure it’ll be good people?</p><p>[1:03:03] What’s taking AGI so long to get here?</p><p>[1:08:59] Chemical scum that dream of distant quasars.</p><p>[1:17:47] Are humans central to the universe, or just a sideshow?</p><p>[1:20:17] Wealth and resources.</p><p>[1:25:30] Recommended thinkers.</p><p>[1:28:05] Taking Children Seriously, ToKCast, Critical Rationalists, and Popper 101.</p><p>[1:31:55] David’s most interesting problems right now.</p><p>[1:39:24] Parting thoughts.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4ffd787f094840ba885b704f80b9255b/">#662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4ffd787f094840ba885b704f80b9255b/&notes=#662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><em>Brought to you by&nbsp;</em></strong><a href="http://linkedin.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>LinkedIn Jobs</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;recruitment platform with 900M+ users,&nbsp;</em></strong><a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>FreshBooks</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;cloud-based small business accounting software, and </em></strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>Athletic Greens’s AG1</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement. </em></strong></p><p><strong>David Deutsch</strong> (<a href="https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@DavidDeutschOxf</a>) is a visiting professor of physics at the Centre for Quantum Computation, a part of the Clarendon Laboratory at Oxford University, and an honorary fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford. He works on fundamental issues in physics, particularly the quantum theory of computation and information and especially constructor theory, which he is proposing as a new way of formulating laws of nature. He is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Implications-ebook/dp/B005KGJX8E/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Fabric of Reality</em></strong></a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World-ebook/dp/B005DXR5ZC/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Beginning of Infinity</em></strong></a>, and he is an advocate of the philosophy of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Karl Popper</a>.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Naval Ravikant </strong>(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.getairchat.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Airchat</strong></a><strong> </strong>and <a href="https://www.angellist.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AngelList</strong></a>.<strong> </strong>He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. You can see his latest musings on <a href="https://getairchat.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Airchat</a> and subscribe to <a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Naval</em></a>, his podcast on wealth and happiness, on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>,<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7qZAVw03FuurfYnWIWwkHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1454097755/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also find his blog at <a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nav.al</a>.</p><p>For more Naval-plus-Tim, check out <a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my wildly popular interview with him from 2015</a> (nominated for “Podcast of the Year”) and our <a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/14/naval/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">conversation from 2020</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Naval also co-piloted the interviews with Ethereum creator <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vitalik Buterin</a> and famed investor <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/10/28/chris-dixon-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Dixon</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>LinkedIn Jobs</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;Whether you are looking to hire now for a critical role or thinking about needs that you may have in the future,&nbsp;<a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn Jobs</a>&nbsp;can help. 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And now, you can post a job for free.</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://linkedin.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Just visit LinkedIn.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FreshBooks</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;I’ve been talking about&nbsp;<a href="http://freshbooks.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>FreshBooks</strong></a>—an&nbsp;<strong>all-in-one invoicing + payments + accounting solution</strong>—for years now. 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I recommended it in&nbsp;<em>The 4-Hour Body</em>&nbsp;in 2010 and did not get paid to do so. I do my best with nutrient-dense meals, of course, but&nbsp;<a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AG</a>&nbsp;further covers my bases with vitamins, minerals, and whole-food-sourced micronutrients that support gut health and the immune system.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Right now,&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;is offering you their Vitamin D Liquid Formula free with your first subscription purchase</strong>—a vital nutrient for a strong immune system and strong bones.&nbsp;<strong>Visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AthleticGreens.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;to claim this special offer today and receive the free Vitamin D Liquid Formula (and 5 free travel packs) with your first subscription purchase!&nbsp;</strong>That’s up to a one-year supply of Vitamin D as added value when you try their delicious and comprehensive all-in-one daily greens product.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p>[08:03] The impact <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabric-Reality-Parallel-Universes-Implications-ebook/dp/014027541X/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Fabric of Reality</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World-ebook/dp/0143121359/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Beginning of Infinity</a> have had on Naval.</p><p>[10:07] The four strands.</p><p>[13:04] Dispelling common misconceptions about science.</p><p>[19:26] How does knowledge grow?</p><p>[24:26] The benefits of understanding the four strands.</p><p>[32:47] How quantum computing arose from trying to test a multiverse theory.</p><p>[37:40] What a good explanation looks like.</p><p>[42:43] How do conjecture and criticism give us a basis for optimism?</p><p>[48:38] Translating knowledge into action.</p><p>[51:20] Artificial intelligence (AI) vs. artificial general intelligence (AGI).</p><p>[56:54] AGI is people! But how do we ensure it’ll be good people?</p><p>[1:03:03] What’s taking AGI so long to get here?</p><p>[1:08:59] Chemical scum that dream of distant quasars.</p><p>[1:17:47] Are humans central to the universe, or just a sideshow?</p><p>[1:20:17] Wealth and resources.</p><p>[1:25:30] Recommended thinkers.</p><p>[1:28:05] Taking Children Seriously, ToKCast, Critical Rationalists, and Popper 101.</p><p>[1:31:55] David’s most interesting problems right now.</p><p>[1:39:24] Parting thoughts.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors 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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #662: David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Fabric of Reality, The Importance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Artificial General Intelligence, Finding Good Problems, Redefining Wealth, Foundations of True Knowledge, Harnessing Optimism, Quantum Computing, and More
Pub date: 2023-03-23

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/crash-course-bloomberg-and-iheartpodcasts-OSbPWyC_5mY/">Crash Course</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/65020efc86434bb1aba40180a5c5b4e3/">Artificial Intelligence vs. Humanity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/65020efc86434bb1aba40180a5c5b4e3/&notes=Artificial Intelligence vs. Humanity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/crash-course-bloomberg-and-iheartpodcasts-2xkfDQMouHJ-OSbPWyC_5mY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Artificial intelligence, or “AI” – the foundation of decades of science fiction and movies – has gone mainstream. It’s here. ChatGPT, a chatbot launched in late 2022, is a free, ask-me-anything tool that can write seemingly perfect essays and accurately answer most questions users throw at it. Its AI is built atop a vast reservoir of digital information and languages. Sydney, a glitchy and trippy Microsoft chatbot, recently told a New York Times reporter that it loved him, wanted to be alive and harbored destructive impulses. It's cool. It’s disturbing. It’s empowering. It’s vaguely threatening. It challenges us to wonder whether we’ll stay in control of the bots or whether they’ll control us. </p> <p>For this episode, Tim spoke with both Parmy Olson, a Bloomberg Opinion technology columnist who is an AI guru, and Tyler Cowen, a genius economist and Bloomberg columnist, to help sort through all of this.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bloomberg and iHeartPodcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/crash-course-bloomberg-and-iheartpodcasts-OSbPWyC_5mY/">Crash Course</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/65020efc86434bb1aba40180a5c5b4e3/">Artificial Intelligence vs. Humanity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2023-03-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/65020efc86434bb1aba40180a5c5b4e3/&notes=Artificial Intelligence vs. Humanity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/crash-course-bloomberg-and-iheartpodcasts-2xkfDQMouHJ-OSbPWyC_5mY.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Artificial intelligence, or “AI” – the foundation of decades of science fiction and movies – has gone mainstream. It’s here. ChatGPT, a chatbot launched in late 2022, is a free, ask-me-anything tool that can write seemingly perfect essays and accurately answer most questions users throw at it. Its AI is built atop a vast reservoir of digital information and languages. Sydney, a glitchy and trippy Microsoft chatbot, recently told a New York Times reporter that it loved him, wanted to be alive and harbored destructive impulses. It's cool. It’s disturbing. It’s empowering. It’s vaguely threatening. It challenges us to wonder whether we’ll stay in control of the bots or whether they’ll control us. </p> <p>For this episode, Tim spoke with both Parmy Olson, a Bloomberg Opinion technology columnist who is an AI guru, and Tyler Cowen, a genius economist and Bloomberg columnist, to help sort through all of this.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Bloomberg and iHeartPodcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Crash Course
Episode: Artificial Intelligence vs. Humanity
Pub date: 2023-03-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/65020efc86434bb1aba40180a5c5b4e3/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 22:19:16 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/always-better-than-yesterday-with-ryan-vN7R3MWZqVD/">Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/158cdb05e8254fbeb79418b6c5db647b/">Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-11-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/158cdb05e8254fbeb79418b6c5db647b/&notes=Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/always-better-than-yesterday-with-ryan-YaMO2UL7-kr-vN7R3MWZqVD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Join our mail list here for exclusive content here.
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On episode 197 I am joined by Dr. Gordon Neufeld, author of the best selling book Hold on to Your Kids, co-authored with Dr. Gabor Maté.
Before he retired, Dr. Gordon Neufeld had accumulated more than 40 years of experience as a clinical psychologist with children and youth and those responsible for them. A foremost authority on child development, Dr. Neufeld continues to be an international speaker, a best-selling author (Hold On to Your Kids) and a leading interpreter of the developmental paradigm.
Dr. Neufeld has a widespread reputation for making sense of complex problems and for opening doors for change. While formerly involved in university teaching and private practice, he has devoted the best part of the last two decades to creating courses for parents, teachers and helping professionals.
These courses are offered primarily through the Neufeld Institute – an online educational institute and world-wide charitable organization devoted to applying developmental science to the task of raising children.
Dr. Neufeld’s life's work has been to help adults provide the conditions for children to flourish. He is a father of five and a grandfather to seven.

In this episode you will hear:
03:00 why parents are struggling
07:30 we are being educated out of our instincts
09:30 the universal force of attachment
12:30 peer orientation vs. the village of attachment
17:00 why it is so difficult for step-parents
20:00 our roles as fathers
21:30 a child’s natural desire to be good versus counter-will
23:00 true power isn’t something we draw attention to
26:30 we are the answer
28:30 universal principles of attachment
30:00 the paradox of independence
35:00 it is always too early to retire
39:00 who am I the same as and the importance of family values
42:30 pick your battles
45:00 the damage caused by sending them to their room
48:00 hold on to your kids
50:30 the impact of parents that are always on their phones
53:30 you’re not going to feel on the battlefield, but home is where we get our hearts back
57:30 vulnerability is the enemy and the essence of the bully
59:00 Dr. Gordon’s Heartprint
1:02:00 the most important belief to have as a parent

Connect with Dr. Gordon Neufeld
Website: https://neufeldinstitute.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NeufeldInstitute
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/neufeldmedia

Connect with Always Better than Yesterday
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/weareabty

Thank you to our friends at Elevate OM, proud supporters of the Always Better than Yesterday Interview Sessions.
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podcast@abty.co.uk<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ryan Hartley, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/always-better-than-yesterday-with-ryan-vN7R3MWZqVD/">Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/158cdb05e8254fbeb79418b6c5db647b/">Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-11-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/158cdb05e8254fbeb79418b6c5db647b/&notes=Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/always-better-than-yesterday-with-ryan-YaMO2UL7-kr-vN7R3MWZqVD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Join our mail list here for exclusive content here.
Sign up for our January Good Fathers group here; https://abty.co.uk/good-fathers
On episode 197 I am joined by Dr. Gordon Neufeld, author of the best selling book Hold on to Your Kids, co-authored with Dr. Gabor Maté.
Before he retired, Dr. Gordon Neufeld had accumulated more than 40 years of experience as a clinical psychologist with children and youth and those responsible for them. A foremost authority on child development, Dr. Neufeld continues to be an international speaker, a best-selling author (Hold On to Your Kids) and a leading interpreter of the developmental paradigm.
Dr. Neufeld has a widespread reputation for making sense of complex problems and for opening doors for change. While formerly involved in university teaching and private practice, he has devoted the best part of the last two decades to creating courses for parents, teachers and helping professionals.
These courses are offered primarily through the Neufeld Institute – an online educational institute and world-wide charitable organization devoted to applying developmental science to the task of raising children.
Dr. Neufeld’s life's work has been to help adults provide the conditions for children to flourish. He is a father of five and a grandfather to seven.

In this episode you will hear:
03:00 why parents are struggling
07:30 we are being educated out of our instincts
09:30 the universal force of attachment
12:30 peer orientation vs. the village of attachment
17:00 why it is so difficult for step-parents
20:00 our roles as fathers
21:30 a child’s natural desire to be good versus counter-will
23:00 true power isn’t something we draw attention to
26:30 we are the answer
28:30 universal principles of attachment
30:00 the paradox of independence
35:00 it is always too early to retire
39:00 who am I the same as and the importance of family values
42:30 pick your battles
45:00 the damage caused by sending them to their room
48:00 hold on to your kids
50:30 the impact of parents that are always on their phones
53:30 you’re not going to feel on the battlefield, but home is where we get our hearts back
57:30 vulnerability is the enemy and the essence of the bully
59:00 Dr. Gordon’s Heartprint
1:02:00 the most important belief to have as a parent

Connect with Dr. Gordon Neufeld
Website: https://neufeldinstitute.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NeufeldInstitute
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/neufeldmedia

Connect with Always Better than Yesterday
Website: https://abty.co.uk/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alwaysbetterthanyesterdayuk/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/abty/
Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/weareabty

Thank you to our friends at Elevate OM, proud supporters of the Always Better than Yesterday Interview Sessions.
Head to https://www.elevateom.com/  for Online Marketing & Web Design services that are affordable, bespoke & awesome.
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Podcast: Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders
Episode: Ep 197 Interview Sessions with Dr. Gordon Neufeld | Hold On To Your Kids
Pub date: 2022-11-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/158cdb05e8254fbeb79418b6c5db647b/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ryan Hartley, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 18:20:10 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ryan Hartley</author>



            
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            <title>The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/finding-genius-podcast-richard-jacobs-W6rqYFfKNjG/">Finding Genius Podcast</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/286c7297c58240e786def47d4b1657bc/">The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-05-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/286c7297c58240e786def47d4b1657bc/&notes=The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/finding-genius-podcast-richard-jacobs-CzsyYarRKOd-W6rqYFfKNjG.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Where can quantum computing take the next step to continue improving and begin outperforming current computers. Theoretically, physical transformations may be the next stage of development. Listen up to learn:</p> <ul> <li>The basic unit of quantum computation</li> <li>The challenges that face quantum computation development</li> <li>If biological systems can be emulated in quantum computers</li> </ul> <p>A Research Fellow working in the Physics Department of the University of Oxford, Chiara Marletto, joins the conversation to discuss the quantum theory of computation.</p> <p>While our current understanding of computers focuses mainly on speeding up and bolstering computing power, research leads quantum computational researchers in a new direction. Constructors theoretically have the capability to modify shape within the laws of physics and appear to be on the horizon for quantum computing.</p> <p>Constructor theory relies on solving the problems from the current generation of computing machines, such as the noise, need for cold, and computational powers. What sets constructors apart from classical computers is the possibility of self-reproduction and a wide variety of other previously thought to be impossible tasks.</p> <p>For more information, visit http://constructortheory.org. Episode also available on Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1169016854">apple.co/30PvU9C</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Richard Jacobs, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/finding-genius-podcast-richard-jacobs-W6rqYFfKNjG/">Finding Genius Podcast</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/286c7297c58240e786def47d4b1657bc/">The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-05-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/286c7297c58240e786def47d4b1657bc/&notes=The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/finding-genius-podcast-richard-jacobs-CzsyYarRKOd-W6rqYFfKNjG.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Where can quantum computing take the next step to continue improving and begin outperforming current computers. Theoretically, physical transformations may be the next stage of development. Listen up to learn:</p> <ul> <li>The basic unit of quantum computation</li> <li>The challenges that face quantum computation development</li> <li>If biological systems can be emulated in quantum computers</li> </ul> <p>A Research Fellow working in the Physics Department of the University of Oxford, Chiara Marletto, joins the conversation to discuss the quantum theory of computation.</p> <p>While our current understanding of computers focuses mainly on speeding up and bolstering computing power, research leads quantum computational researchers in a new direction. Constructors theoretically have the capability to modify shape within the laws of physics and appear to be on the horizon for quantum computing.</p> <p>Constructor theory relies on solving the problems from the current generation of computing machines, such as the noise, need for cold, and computational powers. What sets constructors apart from classical computers is the possibility of self-reproduction and a wide variety of other previously thought to be impossible tasks.</p> <p>For more information, visit http://constructortheory.org. Episode also available on Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1169016854">apple.co/30PvU9C</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Richard Jacobs, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Finding Genius Podcast
Episode: The Quantum Theory of Computation and Developing Constructors to Revolutionize Computing with Chiara Marletto
Pub date: 2021-05-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/286c7297c58240e786def47d4b1657bc/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Richard Jacobs, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:28:23 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Richard Jacobs</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Richard Jacobs</itunes:author>
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            <title>167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-Lt8FqZeWIMU/">Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/86fb0da14f7444fd894eeb482bc36cd3/">167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/86fb0da14f7444fd894eeb482bc36cd3/&notes=167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-aPk4yuC2KHF-Lt8FqZeWIMU.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Traditional physics works within the "Laplacian paradigm": you give me the state of the universe (or some closed system), some equations of motion, then I use those equations to evolve the system through time. <a href="https://www.constructortheory.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Constructor theory</a> proposes an alternative paradigm: to think of physical systems in terms of counterfactuals — the set of rules governing what can and cannot happen. Originally proposed by David Deutsch, constructor theory has been developed by today's guest, Chiara Marletto, and others. It might shed new light on quantum gravity and fundamental physics, as well as having applications to higher-level processes of thermodynamics and biology.</p> <p><em>Support Mindscape on </em><a href="https://www.patreon.com/seanmcarroll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Patreon</em></a><em>.</em></p> <p>Chiara Marletto received her DPhil in physics from the University of Oxford. She is currently a research fellow at Wolfson College, University of Oxford. Her new book is <a href="https://www.chiaramarletto.com/books/the-science-of-can-and-cant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Science of Can and Can't: A Physicist's Journey Through the Land of Counterfactuals</em></a>.</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.chiaramarletto.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web site</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/person/chiara-marletto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford web page</a></li> <li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&amp;user=mQfUdwwAAAAJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Scholar publications</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiara_Marletto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/with-constructor-theory-chiara-marletto-invokes-the-impossible-20210429/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"How to Rewrite the Laws of Physics in the Language of Impossibility," <em>Quanta</em></a></li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Carroll, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-Lt8FqZeWIMU/">Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/86fb0da14f7444fd894eeb482bc36cd3/">167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/86fb0da14f7444fd894eeb482bc36cd3/&notes=167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/sean-carrolls-mindscape-science-society-aPk4yuC2KHF-Lt8FqZeWIMU.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Traditional physics works within the "Laplacian paradigm": you give me the state of the universe (or some closed system), some equations of motion, then I use those equations to evolve the system through time. <a href="https://www.constructortheory.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Constructor theory</a> proposes an alternative paradigm: to think of physical systems in terms of counterfactuals — the set of rules governing what can and cannot happen. Originally proposed by David Deutsch, constructor theory has been developed by today's guest, Chiara Marletto, and others. It might shed new light on quantum gravity and fundamental physics, as well as having applications to higher-level processes of thermodynamics and biology.</p> <p><em>Support Mindscape on </em><a href="https://www.patreon.com/seanmcarroll" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Patreon</em></a><em>.</em></p> <p>Chiara Marletto received her DPhil in physics from the University of Oxford. She is currently a research fellow at Wolfson College, University of Oxford. Her new book is <a href="https://www.chiaramarletto.com/books/the-science-of-can-and-cant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Science of Can and Can't: A Physicist's Journey Through the Land of Counterfactuals</em></a>.</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.chiaramarletto.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Web site</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/person/chiara-marletto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oxford web page</a></li> <li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&amp;user=mQfUdwwAAAAJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google Scholar publications</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiara_Marletto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/with-constructor-theory-chiara-marletto-invokes-the-impossible-20210429/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"How to Rewrite the Laws of Physics in the Language of Impossibility," <em>Quanta</em></a></li> </ul> <p></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean Carroll, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
Episode: 167 | Chiara Marletto on Constructor Theory, Physics, and Possibility
Pub date: 2021-10-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/86fb0da14f7444fd894eeb482bc36cd3/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:27:52 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Sean Carroll</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Sean Carroll</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37/">Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-12-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37/&notes=Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Here we set the scene for an explanation of the functioning of quantum computers and their significance. What are the problems that quantum computation might solve? What is the fundamental advantage of computation and hence quantum computation for humanity and for an understanding of "the fabric of reality". We connect quantum computation to the technologies that preceded it - indeed back to the use of hammer, chisel and water wheels. Understanding reality and the laws that govern it enable technology which enables automation and increased time to work on the next problems allowing solutions that continue this ratcheting up of objective progress in the world. This chapter could very well be a book on its own as we mount the argument that not only is computation, life and thought significant in this world but that the laws of physics mandate the existence of all three in a deep way. How can we explain this apparent providence? Answers in this episode :)</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37/">Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-12-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37/&notes=Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Here we set the scene for an explanation of the functioning of quantum computers and their significance. What are the problems that quantum computation might solve? What is the fundamental advantage of computation and hence quantum computation for humanity and for an understanding of "the fabric of reality". We connect quantum computation to the technologies that preceded it - indeed back to the use of hammer, chisel and water wheels. Understanding reality and the laws that govern it enable technology which enables automation and increased time to work on the next problems allowing solutions that continue this ratcheting up of objective progress in the world. This chapter could very well be a book on its own as we mount the argument that not only is computation, life and thought significant in this world but that the laws of physics mandate the existence of all three in a deep way. How can we explain this apparent providence? Answers in this episode :)</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ToKCast
Episode: Ep 168: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 9 ”Quantum Computers” Part 1
Pub date: 2022-12-22

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/761140e38b484a1193f15783aea1cc37/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:23:36 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Brett Hall</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:15:49</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Brett Hall</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a/">Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a/&notes=Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This chapter is about just what you get in the title: the significance of life. Is it true we are just a chemical scum? Much of "The Beginning of Infinity" worldview is contained here, in an earlier form, in this chapter. In this, the first part, we primarily consider the question of what life itself is. We conclude that it is best thought of as a kind of resilient information. And that is knowledge.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a/">Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a/&notes=Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This chapter is about just what you get in the title: the significance of life. Is it true we are just a chemical scum? Much of "The Beginning of Infinity" worldview is contained here, in an earlier form, in this chapter. In this, the first part, we primarily consider the question of what life itself is. We conclude that it is best thought of as a kind of resilient information. And that is knowledge.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ToKCast
Episode: Ep 161: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 8 ”The Significance of Life”.
Pub date: 2022-10-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c6722f5fbde041e2902315762963914a/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:23:26 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:author>Brett Hall</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38/">Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38/&notes=Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Although an episode devoted to "virtual reality" may seem quirky, parochial or quaint: the fact is that the concept of virtual reality runs very deep. Our understanding of reality is via virtual reality: that conjuring of the external physical world that our minds manage to do. I cannot do better than a part of the chapter itself where David writes "All reasoning, all thinking and all external experience are forms of virtual reality. These things are physical processes which so far have been observed in only one place in the universe, namely the vicinity of the planet Earth. We shall see... that all living processes involve virtual reality too, but human beings in particular have a special relationship with it. Biologically speaking, the virtual-reality rendering of their environment is the characteristic means by which human beings survive. In other words, it is the reason why human beings exist."(1) These are lofty claims but as always - as appropriate for this book, grounded entirely in reality and understood through reason. I refer to this chapter in some senses as the "synecdoche" chapter: a part of the book that represents the whole. (1) Deutsch, David. The Fabric of Reality (Penguin Science) (p. 121). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38/">Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38/&notes=Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Although an episode devoted to "virtual reality" may seem quirky, parochial or quaint: the fact is that the concept of virtual reality runs very deep. Our understanding of reality is via virtual reality: that conjuring of the external physical world that our minds manage to do. I cannot do better than a part of the chapter itself where David writes "All reasoning, all thinking and all external experience are forms of virtual reality. These things are physical processes which so far have been observed in only one place in the universe, namely the vicinity of the planet Earth. We shall see... that all living processes involve virtual reality too, but human beings in particular have a special relationship with it. Biologically speaking, the virtual-reality rendering of their environment is the characteristic means by which human beings survive. In other words, it is the reason why human beings exist."(1) These are lofty claims but as always - as appropriate for this book, grounded entirely in reality and understood through reason. I refer to this chapter in some senses as the "synecdoche" chapter: a part of the book that represents the whole. (1) Deutsch, David. The Fabric of Reality (Penguin Science) (p. 121). Penguin Books Ltd. Kindle Edition.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ToKCast
Episode: Ep 115: David Deutsch’s ”The Fabric of Reality” Chapter 5 “Virtual Reality”
Pub date: 2022-04-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d8107d7536ef42db9089f541dbfdba38/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:23:18 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Brett Hall</author>



            
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            <title>The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-2c3moLkhMS1/">The TED Interview</a> (LS 63 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb/">The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-06-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb/&notes=The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-_aOQBzlH1uf-2c3moLkhMS1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In an ever expanding world, it can be easy to think of our lives as insignificant. But according to David Deutsch, we all possess one skill that gives each of us infinite reach: our ability to attain knowledge. In the final episode of this season dedicated to making a case for optimism, Chris revisits his interview with the father of quantum computing to explore how knowledge first developed, how it sets us apart and how we can use it to shape a more hopeful future.<br /><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-2c3moLkhMS1/">The TED Interview</a> (LS 63 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb/">The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-06-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb/&notes=The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-_aOQBzlH1uf-2c3moLkhMS1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In an ever expanding world, it can be easy to think of our lives as insignificant. But according to David Deutsch, we all possess one skill that gives each of us infinite reach: our ability to attain knowledge. In the final episode of this season dedicated to making a case for optimism, Chris revisits his interview with the father of quantum computing to explore how knowledge first developed, how it sets us apart and how we can use it to shape a more hopeful future.<br /><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The TED Interview
Episode: The limitless potential of human knowledge | David Deutsch
Pub date: 2021-06-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/26e45951183b4614854d48d7236743cb/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 10:25:01 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>TED</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:03:47</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>TED</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ep 100: David Deutsch</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9/">Ep 100: David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9/&notes=Ep 100: David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is the complete and unabridged discussion I had with David Deutsch largely about "The Beginning of Infinity". It contains all my "Questions for David" - which were published separately - AND much more content too.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=0s">00:00</a> Introduction</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=771s">12:51</a> Why aren’t testable theories enough?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=877s">14:37</a> Predictions vs Explanations</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1113s">18:33</a> Verisimilitude</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1434s">23:54</a> Are people a “chemical scum”?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1543s">25:43</a> The Earth is uniquely suited to life?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1822s">30:22</a> What does “provable” mean?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2024s">33:44</a> Undecidability</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2265s">37:45</a> Classifying abstractions</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2489s">41:29</a> The nature of physical laws.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2826s">47:06</a> Direct Observation</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3029s">50:29</a> The nature of mind</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3340s">55:40</a> The Supernatural</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3592s">59:52</a> Epistemology and Morality</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3720s">01:02:00</a> The physical limitations of knowledge?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4164s">01:09:24</a> Some history of quantum computation</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4604s">01:16:44</a> Tic Tacs, UFOs and aliens</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4741s">01:19:01</a> Dark Energy</p>
<p>Support the podcast by following the links to Patreon or Paypal here: www.bretthall.org</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-J3YkzjetRuN/">ToKCast</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9/">Ep 100: David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9/&notes=Ep 100: David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/tokcast-brett-hall-uh2AxK_b6UQ-J3YkzjetRuN.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This is the complete and unabridged discussion I had with David Deutsch largely about "The Beginning of Infinity". It contains all my "Questions for David" - which were published separately - AND much more content too.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=0s">00:00</a> Introduction</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=771s">12:51</a> Why aren’t testable theories enough?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=877s">14:37</a> Predictions vs Explanations</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1113s">18:33</a> Verisimilitude</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1434s">23:54</a> Are people a “chemical scum”?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1543s">25:43</a> The Earth is uniquely suited to life?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=1822s">30:22</a> What does “provable” mean?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2024s">33:44</a> Undecidability</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2265s">37:45</a> Classifying abstractions</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2489s">41:29</a> The nature of physical laws.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=2826s">47:06</a> Direct Observation</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3029s">50:29</a> The nature of mind</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3340s">55:40</a> The Supernatural</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3592s">59:52</a> Epistemology and Morality</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=3720s">01:02:00</a> The physical limitations of knowledge?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4164s">01:09:24</a> Some history of quantum computation</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4604s">01:16:44</a> Tic Tacs, UFOs and aliens</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAgz8iVC44&amp;t=4741s">01:19:01</a> Dark Energy</p>
<p>Support the podcast by following the links to Patreon or Paypal here: www.bretthall.org</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brett Hall, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ToKCast
Episode: Ep 100: David Deutsch
Pub date: 2021-12-01

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/fece78c02d72453f9af6505c6e07f5e9/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 10:24:42 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Brett Hall</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:26:03</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Brett Hall</itunes:author>
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            <title>Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-i46WJ5zkBTg/">The Joe Walker Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79/">Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79/&notes=Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-VA281LxBFXC-i46WJ5zkBTg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Bayesianism, the doctrine that it's always rational to represent our beliefs in terms of probabilities, dominates the intellectual world, from decision theory to the philosophy of science. But does it make sense to quantify our beliefs about such ineffable things as scientific theories or the future? And what separates empty prophecy from legitimate prediction?</p> <p>David Deutsch is a British physicist at the University of Oxford, and is widely regarded as the father of quantum computing. He is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Fabric-Reality-David-Deutsch/dp/0140146903/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><em>The Fabric of Reality</em></a> (1997) and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359/ref=pd_sbs_1_sccl_1/358-6863868-9439867?pd_rd_w=nNGOx&amp;pf_rd_p=2ea63d53-554c-4def-9e88-56ee4bd0fbe9&amp;pf_rd_r=SGFDHV04DTGH7YMW85C2&amp;pd_rd_r=9b0e7ef7-5baa-4daa-ab9b-4d9c7f68c1c5&amp;pd_rd_wg=4q9rC&amp;pd_rd_i=0143121359&amp;psc=1"><em>The Beginning of Infinity</em></a> (2011).</p> <p>Full episode transcript available at: thejspod.com</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Walker, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-i46WJ5zkBTg/">The Joe Walker Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79/">Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79/&notes=Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-joe-walker-podcast-joe-walker-VA281LxBFXC-i46WJ5zkBTg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Bayesianism, the doctrine that it's always rational to represent our beliefs in terms of probabilities, dominates the intellectual world, from decision theory to the philosophy of science. But does it make sense to quantify our beliefs about such ineffable things as scientific theories or the future? And what separates empty prophecy from legitimate prediction?</p> <p>David Deutsch is a British physicist at the University of Oxford, and is widely regarded as the father of quantum computing. He is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Fabric-Reality-David-Deutsch/dp/0140146903/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr="><em>The Fabric of Reality</em></a> (1997) and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359/ref=pd_sbs_1_sccl_1/358-6863868-9439867?pd_rd_w=nNGOx&amp;pf_rd_p=2ea63d53-554c-4def-9e88-56ee4bd0fbe9&amp;pf_rd_r=SGFDHV04DTGH7YMW85C2&amp;pd_rd_r=9b0e7ef7-5baa-4daa-ab9b-4d9c7f68c1c5&amp;pd_rd_wg=4q9rC&amp;pd_rd_i=0143121359&amp;psc=1"><em>The Beginning of Infinity</em></a> (2011).</p> <p>Full episode transcript available at: thejspod.com</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Walker, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Joe Walker Podcast
Episode: Against Bayesianism — David Deutsch
Pub date: 2022-04-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3578440bcdf540489aacfc4b59a2db79/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Joe Walker, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 10:24:22 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Joe Walker</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:39:02</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Joe Walker</itunes:author>
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            <title>AJ Juliani on Genius Hour, PBL, Design Thinking and Student Inquiry</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/16c78613bd6745feaa8876c4dc2732ac</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/vrain-waves-teaching-conversations-with-7wrWilqP_j4/">Vrain Waves: Teaching Conversations with Minds Shaping Education</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/16c78613bd6745feaa8876c4dc2732ac/">AJ Juliani on Genius Hour, PBL, Design Thinking and Student Inquiry</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-06-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/16c78613bd6745feaa8876c4dc2732ac/&notes=AJ Juliani on Genius Hour, PBL, Design Thinking and Student Inquiry">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/vrain-waves-teaching-conversations-with-FJYODXd9vcL-7wrWilqP_j4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Connect with Vrain Waves</strong><br />
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/vrainwaves?lang=en">@VrainWaves</a> | Becky Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyEPeters">@BeckyEPeters</a> | Ben Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mrkalb?lang=en">@mrkalb</a></p>
<p><strong>Connect with AJ Juliani</strong><br />
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ajjuliani/">@ajjuliani</a> | Website: <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/">http://ajjuliani.com/</a> | Books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/A.J.-Juliani/e/B00JAMEPKA">AJ Juliani on Amazon</a></p>
<p><strong>Links &amp; Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Skip to Minute 9 to get to the Interview with AJ Juliani</li>
<li>What is Genius Hour? (01:33)</li>
<li>Out of Our Heads and Into the Classroom (02:07)</li>
<li>Structure (02:30)</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/ghwebinar">Getting Started with Genius Hour</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/genius-hour-blueprint-step-step-guide-running-project-class/">Genius Hour Blueprint</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goo.gl/5BaHFN">Numbers app template </a></li>
<li>Inspiration (03:45) | <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/kid_president_i_think_we_all_need_a_pep_talk">Kid President on Empowerment</a> | <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jack_andraka_a_promising_test_for_pancreatic_cancer_from_a_teenager">Jack Andraka TED Talk</a> | <a href="http://cainesarcade.com/">Caine’s Arcade</a> | <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=genius+hour+project+examples&amp;oq=genius+hour+project+examples&amp;aqs=chrome..69i57.3765j0j9&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=active&amp;ssui=on">Genius Hour Examples</a></li>
<li>Authentic Audience (05:17)</li>
<li>Three N’s (06:46) - What did you learn that’s <strong>new</strong>, what do you <strong>need</strong> from me, what are you going to do <strong>next</strong>?</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/20time?lang=en">#20time</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/geniushour?lang=en">#geniushour</a></li>
<li>AJ Juliani Intro (9:07) - Director of Technology and Innovation at <a href="https://www.centennialsd.org/">Centennial School District</a></li>
<li>Genius Hour, what it is, how AJ started with it (10:40)</li>
<li>Read Daniel Pink’s book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805">Drive</a> - Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/the-20-project-like-google-in-my-class/">The 20% Project blog post</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/20time?lang=en">#20Time</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/JoyKirr?lang=en">Joy Kirr</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/gallit_z">Gallit Zvi</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hughtheteacher">Hugh McDonald</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/mrsdkrebs">Denise Krebs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geniushour.ca/2015/05/01/the-genius-hour-manifesto/">The Genius Hour Manifesto</a></li>
<li>Examples of Genius Hour projects (15:28)</li>
<li>How Genius Hour works (17:42) Planning → Topic Selection → Pitch → Research → Making → Presentations → Reflection</li>
<li>Topic Selection: <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/6-simple-strategies-to-help-find-your-passion/">March Madness Bracket</a> for ideas</li>
<li>Shark Tank Pitch - 1 minute</li>
<li>
<ol>
<li>What they’re going to learn / make</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="2">
<li>Why they’re going to learn / make it</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="3">
<li>How they’re going to learn / make it</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="4">
<li>What will success look like</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Mapping to Standards (21:12)</li>
<li>Managing Time (22:53)</li>
<li>Getting started with Inquiry-based learning (25:35)</li>
<li>Get kids comfortable talking without the teacher asking a bunch of questions: Discussion games, sentence stems, fishbowls, symposiums, etc</li>
<li>Genius Hour / Passion Projects for teachers (28:34)</li>
<li>Teacher Innovation Pitch in Centennial SD</li>
<li>Student Innovation Lab / <a href="https://www.centennialx.com/">Centennial X</a></li>
<li>Design Thinking (31:50)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Launch-Design-Thinking-Creativity-Student/dp/0996989544">Launch book</a> | co-authored with <a href="http://www.spencerauthor.com/">John Spencer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lehmannchris?lang=en">Chris Lehmann</a> quote: “If you assign a project and get back 30 of the exact same thing, that’s not a project, that’s a recipe.</li>
<li><a href="https://hbr.org/2015/09/design-thinking-comes-of-age">HBR Article on Design Thinking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dschool.stanford.edu/">Stanford d.school</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ideo.com/">IDEO</a></li>
<li>Failures to watch out for with Design Thinking &amp; Genius Hour (36:08)</li>
<li>
<ol>
<li>Managing expectations &amp; building early</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/project-global-inform-doing-something-about-human-rights-violations/">Project Global Inform</a></li>
<li>Prototype early</li>
<li>
<ol start="2">
<li>Trust &amp; Relationships - be self-reflective</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.spencerauthor.com/empowerment-shifts/">Compliance - Engagement - Empowerment</a> Continuum (42:34)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Empower-Happens-Students-Their-Learning/dp/194644443X">Empower book</a></li>
<li>Developing choice &amp; decision skills (44:47)</li>
<li>14,000 hours with students - how much of that time do we give them practice making choices and decisions?</li>
<li>Other podcasts / interviews with AJ</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/episode-5/">Cult of Pedagogy</a> | AJ’s podcast, <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/inside-innovation-new-podcast/">Inside Innovation</a> | <a href="http://www.tltalkradio.org/season-2-episode-22-inquiry-and-innovation-in-the-classroom-interview-with-aj-juliani-podcast/">TLTalk Radio</a></li>
<li>Homework for teachers (47:46)</li>
<li>What were the last 5 things you learned and why were you excited about learning them? Then, think about how you learn best, and then think about your classroom</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/">Ajjuliani.com</a> - @ajjuliani on all social media</li>
<li>Post interview takeaways with Becky &amp; Ben (49:34)</li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Suzy Evans, Shane Saeed, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/vrain-waves-teaching-conversations-with-7wrWilqP_j4/">Vrain Waves: Teaching Conversations with Minds Shaping Education</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/16c78613bd6745feaa8876c4dc2732ac/">AJ Juliani on Genius Hour, PBL, Design Thinking and Student Inquiry</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-06-11<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/16c78613bd6745feaa8876c4dc2732ac/&notes=AJ Juliani on Genius Hour, PBL, Design Thinking and Student Inquiry">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/vrain-waves-teaching-conversations-with-FJYODXd9vcL-7wrWilqP_j4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Connect with Vrain Waves</strong><br />
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/vrainwaves?lang=en">@VrainWaves</a> | Becky Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyEPeters">@BeckyEPeters</a> | Ben Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mrkalb?lang=en">@mrkalb</a></p>
<p><strong>Connect with AJ Juliani</strong><br />
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/ajjuliani/">@ajjuliani</a> | Website: <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/">http://ajjuliani.com/</a> | Books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/A.J.-Juliani/e/B00JAMEPKA">AJ Juliani on Amazon</a></p>
<p><strong>Links &amp; Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Skip to Minute 9 to get to the Interview with AJ Juliani</li>
<li>What is Genius Hour? (01:33)</li>
<li>Out of Our Heads and Into the Classroom (02:07)</li>
<li>Structure (02:30)</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/ghwebinar">Getting Started with Genius Hour</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/genius-hour-blueprint-step-step-guide-running-project-class/">Genius Hour Blueprint</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goo.gl/5BaHFN">Numbers app template </a></li>
<li>Inspiration (03:45) | <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/kid_president_i_think_we_all_need_a_pep_talk">Kid President on Empowerment</a> | <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jack_andraka_a_promising_test_for_pancreatic_cancer_from_a_teenager">Jack Andraka TED Talk</a> | <a href="http://cainesarcade.com/">Caine’s Arcade</a> | <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=genius+hour+project+examples&amp;oq=genius+hour+project+examples&amp;aqs=chrome..69i57.3765j0j9&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;safe=active&amp;ssui=on">Genius Hour Examples</a></li>
<li>Authentic Audience (05:17)</li>
<li>Three N’s (06:46) - What did you learn that’s <strong>new</strong>, what do you <strong>need</strong> from me, what are you going to do <strong>next</strong>?</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/20time?lang=en">#20time</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/geniushour?lang=en">#geniushour</a></li>
<li>AJ Juliani Intro (9:07) - Director of Technology and Innovation at <a href="https://www.centennialsd.org/">Centennial School District</a></li>
<li>Genius Hour, what it is, how AJ started with it (10:40)</li>
<li>Read Daniel Pink’s book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805">Drive</a> - Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/the-20-project-like-google-in-my-class/">The 20% Project blog post</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/20time?lang=en">#20Time</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/JoyKirr?lang=en">Joy Kirr</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/gallit_z">Gallit Zvi</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hughtheteacher">Hugh McDonald</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/mrsdkrebs">Denise Krebs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geniushour.ca/2015/05/01/the-genius-hour-manifesto/">The Genius Hour Manifesto</a></li>
<li>Examples of Genius Hour projects (15:28)</li>
<li>How Genius Hour works (17:42) Planning → Topic Selection → Pitch → Research → Making → Presentations → Reflection</li>
<li>Topic Selection: <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/6-simple-strategies-to-help-find-your-passion/">March Madness Bracket</a> for ideas</li>
<li>Shark Tank Pitch - 1 minute</li>
<li>
<ol>
<li>What they’re going to learn / make</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="2">
<li>Why they’re going to learn / make it</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="3">
<li>How they’re going to learn / make it</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>
<ol start="4">
<li>What will success look like</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Mapping to Standards (21:12)</li>
<li>Managing Time (22:53)</li>
<li>Getting started with Inquiry-based learning (25:35)</li>
<li>Get kids comfortable talking without the teacher asking a bunch of questions: Discussion games, sentence stems, fishbowls, symposiums, etc</li>
<li>Genius Hour / Passion Projects for teachers (28:34)</li>
<li>Teacher Innovation Pitch in Centennial SD</li>
<li>Student Innovation Lab / <a href="https://www.centennialx.com/">Centennial X</a></li>
<li>Design Thinking (31:50)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Launch-Design-Thinking-Creativity-Student/dp/0996989544">Launch book</a> | co-authored with <a href="http://www.spencerauthor.com/">John Spencer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lehmannchris?lang=en">Chris Lehmann</a> quote: “If you assign a project and get back 30 of the exact same thing, that’s not a project, that’s a recipe.</li>
<li><a href="https://hbr.org/2015/09/design-thinking-comes-of-age">HBR Article on Design Thinking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dschool.stanford.edu/">Stanford d.school</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ideo.com/">IDEO</a></li>
<li>Failures to watch out for with Design Thinking &amp; Genius Hour (36:08)</li>
<li>
<ol>
<li>Managing expectations &amp; building early</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/project-global-inform-doing-something-about-human-rights-violations/">Project Global Inform</a></li>
<li>Prototype early</li>
<li>
<ol start="2">
<li>Trust &amp; Relationships - be self-reflective</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.spencerauthor.com/empowerment-shifts/">Compliance - Engagement - Empowerment</a> Continuum (42:34)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Empower-Happens-Students-Their-Learning/dp/194644443X">Empower book</a></li>
<li>Developing choice &amp; decision skills (44:47)</li>
<li>14,000 hours with students - how much of that time do we give them practice making choices and decisions?</li>
<li>Other podcasts / interviews with AJ</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/episode-5/">Cult of Pedagogy</a> | AJ’s podcast, <a href="http://ajjuliani.com/inside-innovation-new-podcast/">Inside Innovation</a> | <a href="http://www.tltalkradio.org/season-2-episode-22-inquiry-and-innovation-in-the-classroom-interview-with-aj-juliani-podcast/">TLTalk Radio</a></li>
<li>Homework for teachers (47:46)</li>
<li>What were the last 5 things you learned and why were you excited about learning them? Then, think about how you learn best, and then think about your classroom</li>
<li><a href="http://ajjuliani.com/">Ajjuliani.com</a> - @ajjuliani on all social media</li>
<li>Post interview takeaways with Becky &amp; Ben (49:34)</li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Suzy Evans, Shane Saeed, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/modern-classrooms-project-podcast-the-NTuth9i1rgS/">Modern Classrooms Project Podcast</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a4abe663e1d64b6bb009e27a05022fba/">Episode 83: Misconceptions About Self Pacing</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a4abe663e1d64b6bb009e27a05022fba/&notes=Episode 83: Misconceptions About Self Pacing">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/modern-classrooms-project-podcast-the-mFIfWcnUeYb-NTuth9i1rgS.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week, Zach is joined by Andrea Mahr, Beth Benavides, and John Tyler to address six common misconceptions about self pacing and self-paced classes.</p>

<p><strong>Outline and Show Notes</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Get to know Andrea, Beth, and John

<ul>
<li>Andrea and Beth's previous MCP Podcast episode: <a href="https://podcast.modernclassrooms.org/76" rel="nofollow noopener">Elementary Math</a></li>
<li>Kareem on the Cult of Pedagogy podcast

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/screencast-videos/" rel="nofollow noopener">Everything you need to know about building a great screencast video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/self-paced-how-to/" rel="nofollow noopener">How to create a self-paced classroom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/165-setting-up-mastery-based-grading-in-your-classroom/id900015782?i=1000511976657" rel="nofollow noopener">Setting up mastery-based grading in your classroom</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Misconception: Self-paced classes have no deadlines</li>
<li>Misconception: Kids do whatever they want in self-paced classes</li>
<li>Misconception: Teachers don't teach in self-paced classes</li>
<li>Misconception: Self-paced classes never have any full-group collaborative activities

<ul>
<li>MCP Podcast episode on full-group collaborative activities: <a href="https://podcast.modernclassrooms.org/10" rel="nofollow noopener">Planning for Collaboration in a Modern Classroom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blooket.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Blooket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gimkit.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Gimkit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Misconception: Students lack the skills to self pace effectively</li>
<li>Misconception: Students can never collaborate since they're working on different things</li>
<li>Connect with Andrea, Beth, and John

<ul>
<li>Connect with John by <a href="mailto:john.tyler@modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007430710418" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a> </li>
<li>Connect with Beth by <a href="mailto:elizabeth.benavides@modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/460285347875074/user/500513699/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a></li>
<li>Connect with Andrea by <a href="mailto:andrea.l.mahr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/460285347875074/user/1595700020/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

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<li>Toni Rose: <a href="https://twitter.com/classroomflex" rel="nofollow noopener">@classroomflex</a> on Twitter and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/classroomflex/?hl=en" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a></li>
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<p>The Modern Classrooms Podcast is edited by Zach Diamond: <a href="https://twitter.com/zpdiamond" rel="nofollow noopener">@zpdiamond</a> on Twitter and <a href="https://www.learningtoteach.co/" rel="nofollow noopener">Learning to Teach</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Modern Classrooms Project, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/modern-classrooms-project-podcast-the-NTuth9i1rgS/">Modern Classrooms Project Podcast</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a4abe663e1d64b6bb009e27a05022fba/">Episode 83: Misconceptions About Self Pacing</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a4abe663e1d64b6bb009e27a05022fba/&notes=Episode 83: Misconceptions About Self Pacing">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/modern-classrooms-project-podcast-the-mFIfWcnUeYb-NTuth9i1rgS.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week, Zach is joined by Andrea Mahr, Beth Benavides, and John Tyler to address six common misconceptions about self pacing and self-paced classes.</p>

<p><strong>Outline and Show Notes</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Get to know Andrea, Beth, and John

<ul>
<li>Andrea and Beth's previous MCP Podcast episode: <a href="https://podcast.modernclassrooms.org/76" rel="nofollow noopener">Elementary Math</a></li>
<li>Kareem on the Cult of Pedagogy podcast

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/screencast-videos/" rel="nofollow noopener">Everything you need to know about building a great screencast video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/self-paced-how-to/" rel="nofollow noopener">How to create a self-paced classroom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/165-setting-up-mastery-based-grading-in-your-classroom/id900015782?i=1000511976657" rel="nofollow noopener">Setting up mastery-based grading in your classroom</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Misconception: Self-paced classes have no deadlines</li>
<li>Misconception: Kids do whatever they want in self-paced classes</li>
<li>Misconception: Teachers don't teach in self-paced classes</li>
<li>Misconception: Self-paced classes never have any full-group collaborative activities

<ul>
<li>MCP Podcast episode on full-group collaborative activities: <a href="https://podcast.modernclassrooms.org/10" rel="nofollow noopener">Planning for Collaboration in a Modern Classroom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.blooket.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Blooket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gimkit.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Gimkit</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Misconception: Students lack the skills to self pace effectively</li>
<li>Misconception: Students can never collaborate since they're working on different things</li>
<li>Connect with Andrea, Beth, and John

<ul>
<li>Connect with John by <a href="mailto:john.tyler@modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007430710418" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a> </li>
<li>Connect with Beth by <a href="mailto:elizabeth.benavides@modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/460285347875074/user/500513699/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a></li>
<li>Connect with Andrea by <a href="mailto:andrea.l.mahr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">email</a> and on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/460285347875074/user/1595700020/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Contact us, follow us online, and learn more:</strong></p>

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<li>Email us questions and feedback at: <a href="mailto:podcast@modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">podcast@modernclassrooms.org</a></li>
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<li>Kareem: <a href="https://twitter.com/kareemfarah23" rel="nofollow noopener">@kareemfarah23</a> on Twitter</li>
<li>Toni Rose: <a href="https://twitter.com/classroomflex" rel="nofollow noopener">@classroomflex</a> on Twitter and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/classroomflex/?hl=en" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">The Modern Classroom Project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://learn.modernclassrooms.org" rel="nofollow noopener">Modern Classrooms Online Course</a>

<ul>
<li>Take our free online course, or sign up for our mentorship program to receive personalized guidance from a Modern Classrooms mentor as you implement your own modern classroom!</li>
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<p>The Modern Classrooms Podcast is edited by Zach Diamond: <a href="https://twitter.com/zpdiamond" rel="nofollow noopener">@zpdiamond</a> on Twitter and <a href="https://www.learningtoteach.co/" rel="nofollow noopener">Learning to Teach</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Modern Classrooms Project, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Episode 83: Misconceptions About Self Pacing
Pub date: 2022-04-03

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cult-of-pedagogy-podcast-jennifer-2MXsUiVYI0u/">The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast</a> (LS 64 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/56d9ff67e3344c21b7c515f4379ab4b7/">158: How to Create a Self-Paced Classroom</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-11-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/56d9ff67e3344c21b7c515f4379ab4b7/&notes=158: How to Create a Self-Paced Classroom">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cult-of-pedagogy-podcast-jennifer-U1XkKaByiIv-2MXsUiVYI0u.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In a self-paced classroom, each student is met where they are, is given an appropriate level of challenge, and grows at a steady pace throughout the school year. In this episode, Kareem Farah of the Modern Classrooms Project teaches us how to get started.</p> <p>Learn about Modern Classrooms' free course on creating a self-paced classroom at <a href="https://cultofpedagogy.com/modern">cultofpedagogy.com/modern</a> *</p> <p> </p> <p>*affiliate link</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jennifer Gonzalez, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Podcast: The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast
Episode: 158: How to Create a Self-Paced Classroom
Pub date: 2020-11-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/56d9ff67e3344c21b7c515f4379ab4b7/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2022 06:53:04 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Keith Rabois: Velocity, Differentiation &amp; Disruption</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-with-auren-hoffman-auren-hoffman-SrUIsxCcDkz/">Summation with Auren Hoffman</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8bdf051c93bd4c16837f2c9bee846d6e/">Keith Rabois: Velocity, Differentiation & Disruption</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-11-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8bdf051c93bd4c16837f2c9bee846d6e/&notes=Keith Rabois: Velocity, Differentiation & Disruption">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-formerly-world-of-daas-summation-mlJBtw-NMfW-SrUIsxCcDkz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Keith Rabois is the CEO of Openstore and a general partner at Founders Fund. He’s had an amazing career as a founder and senior operator at some of the most innovative companies of the last 20 years, including Paypal, Square, Opendoor, and LinkedIn.</p><p><br /></p><p>Auren and Keith take a deep dive into spotting talent— one of Keith’s strengths— and discuss how he’s managed to hire so many incredible people over the years. They break down what makes a successful founder, why sitting on “too many” boards is the right move for VCs, and how Keith has reverse engineered a tech scene in Miami.  </p><p><br /></p><p>Keith has a highly unique perspective and brings sharp insight to everything from fundraising to culture to personal health. </p><p><br /></p><p>World of DaaS is brought to you by SafeGraph. For more episodes, visit safegraph.com/podcasts.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can find Auren Hoffman on Twitter at @auren and Keith at @Rabois.</p><p><br /><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Podcast: Summation with Auren Hoffman
Episode: Keith Rabois: Velocity, Differentiation & Disruption
Pub date: 2022-11-01

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/8bdf051c93bd4c16837f2c9bee846d6e/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2022 12:09:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/rupert-spira-podcast-rupert-spira-T1owJW43eIG/">Rupert Spira Podcast</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/35aed6e2db3641829522634f8350feaf/">Episode 41: Bernardo Kastrup</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/35aed6e2db3641829522634f8350feaf/&notes=Episode 41: Bernardo Kastrup">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/rupert-spira-podcast-rupert-spira-dmwE7lD8uH6-T1owJW43eIG.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode Simon Mundie hosts a conversation between Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup.</p> <p>Simon opens this wide-ranging and far-reaching dialogue by stating that most people's everyday, ordinary experience is that they are themselves an entity that happens to contain a mind, within a world of entities.</p> <p>The two-hour conversation that follows is all about how this so-called common-sense perspective is, in fact, false.</p> <p>Bernardo has two PhDs, one in computer science and another in philosophy. He was employed first at CERN, the European council for nuclear research, where he began working in artificial intelligence (AI) in connection with the Large Hadron Collider. Then he moved on to artificial consciousness (AC), wondering if he could build an artificially conscious entity, which piqued his interest in philosophy.</p> <p>Simon Mundie is the host of the podcast 'Life Lessons: From Sport and Beyond', which explores life's bigger questions.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rupert Spira, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/rupert-spira-podcast-rupert-spira-T1owJW43eIG/">Rupert Spira Podcast</a> (LS 50 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/35aed6e2db3641829522634f8350feaf/">Episode 41: Bernardo Kastrup</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/35aed6e2db3641829522634f8350feaf/&notes=Episode 41: Bernardo Kastrup">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/rupert-spira-podcast-rupert-spira-dmwE7lD8uH6-T1owJW43eIG.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode Simon Mundie hosts a conversation between Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup.</p> <p>Simon opens this wide-ranging and far-reaching dialogue by stating that most people's everyday, ordinary experience is that they are themselves an entity that happens to contain a mind, within a world of entities.</p> <p>The two-hour conversation that follows is all about how this so-called common-sense perspective is, in fact, false.</p> <p>Bernardo has two PhDs, one in computer science and another in philosophy. He was employed first at CERN, the European council for nuclear research, where he began working in artificial intelligence (AI) in connection with the Large Hadron Collider. Then he moved on to artificial consciousness (AC), wondering if he could build an artificially conscious entity, which piqued his interest in philosophy.</p> <p>Simon Mundie is the host of the podcast 'Life Lessons: From Sport and Beyond', which explores life's bigger questions.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rupert Spira, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Episode 41: Bernardo Kastrup
Pub date: 2022-03-22

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            <title>#292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/97007b72487a4fb486c9ff43cf79d7df/">#292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/97007b72487a4fb486c9ff43cf79d7df/&notes=#292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Robin Hanson is a professor at George Mason University and researcher at Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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Grabby Aliens (paper): <a href="https://grabbyaliens.com/paper">https://grabbyaliens.com/paper</a><br />
The Elephant in the Brain (book): <a href="https://amazon.com/dp/0197551955/ref=nosim?tag=turingmachi08-20">https://amazon.com/dp/0197551955/ref=nosim?tag=turingmachi08-20</a><br />
The Age of Em (book): <a href="https://amazon.com/dp/0198817827/ref=nosim?tag=turingmachi08-20">https://amazon.com/dp/0198817827/ref=nosim?tag=turingmachi08-20</a></p>
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Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(06:49) &#8211; Grabby aliens<br />
(44:33) &#8211; War and competition<br />
(50:07) &#8211; Global government<br />
(1:02:58) &#8211; Humanity&#8217;s future<br />
(1:13:00) &#8211; Hello aliens<br />
(1:40:03) &#8211; UFO sightings<br />
(2:04:40) &#8211; Conspiracy theories<br />
(2:12:58) &#8211; Elephant in the brain<br />
(2:26:29) &#8211; Medicine<br />
(2:38:58) &#8211; Institutions<br />
(3:05:52) &#8211; Physics<br />
(3:10:43) &#8211; Artificial intelligence<br />
(3:28:32) &#8211; Economics<br />
(3:31:53) &#8211; Political science<br />
(3:37:42) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(3:46:33) &#8211; Darkest moments<br />
(3:49:34) &#8211; Love and loss<br />
(3:58:57) &#8211; Immortality<br />
(4:02:53) &#8211; Simulation hypothesis<br />
(4:13:10) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/97007b72487a4fb486c9ff43cf79d7df/">#292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/97007b72487a4fb486c9ff43cf79d7df/&notes=#292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Robin Hanson is a professor at George Mason University and researcher at Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(06:49) &#8211; Grabby aliens<br />
(44:33) &#8211; War and competition<br />
(50:07) &#8211; Global government<br />
(1:02:58) &#8211; Humanity&#8217;s future<br />
(1:13:00) &#8211; Hello aliens<br />
(1:40:03) &#8211; UFO sightings<br />
(2:04:40) &#8211; Conspiracy theories<br />
(2:12:58) &#8211; Elephant in the brain<br />
(2:26:29) &#8211; Medicine<br />
(2:38:58) &#8211; Institutions<br />
(3:05:52) &#8211; Physics<br />
(3:10:43) &#8211; Artificial intelligence<br />
(3:28:32) &#8211; Economics<br />
(3:31:53) &#8211; Political science<br />
(3:37:42) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(3:46:33) &#8211; Darkest moments<br />
(3:49:34) &#8211; Love and loss<br />
(3:58:57) &#8211; Immortality<br />
(4:02:53) &#8211; Simulation hypothesis<br />
(4:13:10) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: #292 – Robin Hanson: Alien Civilizations, UFOs, and the Future of Humanity
Pub date: 2022-06-09

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            <title>Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/stranded-technologies-podcast-infinita-1xDu5fp3evW/">Stranded Technologies Podcast</a> (LS 24 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b888a0c021e241c7b3ef444c5e8301f9/">Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b888a0c021e241c7b3ef444c5e8301f9/&notes=Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/stranded-technologies-podcast-infinita-17C9ISPbpVu-1xDu5fp3evW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Niklas speaks with <a href="https://twitter.com/William_Blake">Michael Gibson</a>, co-founder and General Partner at <a href="https://www.1517fund.com/">1517,</a> a VC firm that backs dropouts, renegade students &amp; deep tech scientists at the earliest stages.</p><p>Michael is the author of the book “Paper Belt on Fire - The Fight for Progress in an Age of Ashes”, coming out on November 8, 2022 (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Paper-Belt-Fire-Fight-Progress/dp/164177245X">pre-order on Amazon</a>).</p><p>Michael dropped out of his philosophy PhD program and was then picked by Peter Thiel to run the now legendary Thiel Fellowship Program from Day 1. With no traditional VC background, Michael then founded 1517 to find young entrepreneurs willing to leave the traditional paths to build the next great thing.</p><p>One such renegade entrepreneur Michael backed early was Ethereum founder Vitalik Buterin, whom he noticed early to be a voracious self-learner who taught himself not only the necessary coding and math but also to speak Mandarin Chinese.</p><p>In this wide-ranging conversation, we learn about the failures of the higher education model and science funding ("the paper belt" from NYC, Washington to Boston), and "The Great Stagnation" in technological progress starting in 1971.</p><p>Michael talks about the notion of the "frontier", a place where you can go to if the established institutions are corrupt and favor insiders over outsides, to do it all differently. In American History, the frontier was the West.</p><p>The new frontiers now seem to be the internet, the crypto/blockchain movement, and charter cities. We invite you to join us at the frontier to build the industries of the future together on Roatan, Honduras, a beautiful Caribbean island:</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/healthtech2022">Prospera Healthtech Summit</a>, September 23-25, 2022</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/edtech2022">Prospera Edtech Summit</a>, October 28-30, 2022</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/fintech2022">Prospera Fintech Summit</a>, November 18-20, 2022</p><p>Niklas on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/NiklasAnzinger">https://twitter.com/NiklasAnzinger</a></p><p>Infinita Fund Website: <a href="https://infinitafund.com/">https://infinitafund.com/</a></p><p>Discord: <a href="https://discord.gg/Z4H6UjbubK">https://discord.gg/Z4H6UjbubK</a></p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.infinitatimes.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.infinitatimes.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Infinita, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/stranded-technologies-podcast-infinita-1xDu5fp3evW/">Stranded Technologies Podcast</a> (LS 24 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b888a0c021e241c7b3ef444c5e8301f9/">Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b888a0c021e241c7b3ef444c5e8301f9/&notes=Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/stranded-technologies-podcast-infinita-17C9ISPbpVu-1xDu5fp3evW.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Niklas speaks with <a href="https://twitter.com/William_Blake">Michael Gibson</a>, co-founder and General Partner at <a href="https://www.1517fund.com/">1517,</a> a VC firm that backs dropouts, renegade students &amp; deep tech scientists at the earliest stages.</p><p>Michael is the author of the book “Paper Belt on Fire - The Fight for Progress in an Age of Ashes”, coming out on November 8, 2022 (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Paper-Belt-Fire-Fight-Progress/dp/164177245X">pre-order on Amazon</a>).</p><p>Michael dropped out of his philosophy PhD program and was then picked by Peter Thiel to run the now legendary Thiel Fellowship Program from Day 1. With no traditional VC background, Michael then founded 1517 to find young entrepreneurs willing to leave the traditional paths to build the next great thing.</p><p>One such renegade entrepreneur Michael backed early was Ethereum founder Vitalik Buterin, whom he noticed early to be a voracious self-learner who taught himself not only the necessary coding and math but also to speak Mandarin Chinese.</p><p>In this wide-ranging conversation, we learn about the failures of the higher education model and science funding ("the paper belt" from NYC, Washington to Boston), and "The Great Stagnation" in technological progress starting in 1971.</p><p>Michael talks about the notion of the "frontier", a place where you can go to if the established institutions are corrupt and favor insiders over outsides, to do it all differently. In American History, the frontier was the West.</p><p>The new frontiers now seem to be the internet, the crypto/blockchain movement, and charter cities. We invite you to join us at the frontier to build the industries of the future together on Roatan, Honduras, a beautiful Caribbean island:</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/healthtech2022">Prospera Healthtech Summit</a>, September 23-25, 2022</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/edtech2022">Prospera Edtech Summit</a>, October 28-30, 2022</p><p><a href="https://infinitafund.com/fintech2022">Prospera Fintech Summit</a>, November 18-20, 2022</p><p>Niklas on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/NiklasAnzinger">https://twitter.com/NiklasAnzinger</a></p><p>Infinita Fund Website: <a href="https://infinitafund.com/">https://infinitafund.com/</a></p><p>Discord: <a href="https://discord.gg/Z4H6UjbubK">https://discord.gg/Z4H6UjbubK</a></p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.infinitatimes.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.infinitatimes.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Infinita, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Stranded Technologies Podcast
Episode: Ep. 13: Michael Gibson on Learning from Peter Thiel, Backing 19-Year Old Vitalik Buterin and Self-Education as the Path to End the Great Stagnation
Pub date: 2022-09-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b888a0c021e241c7b3ef444c5e8301f9/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Infinita, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, &amp; Geostrategy — #3</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-g3yNSakf5hB/">Manifold</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5482dbb0a5a44226adfb9fa0df310e24/">Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, & Geostrategy — #3</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5482dbb0a5a44226adfb9fa0df310e24/&notes=Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, & Geostrategy — #3">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-sIz1jBxpu4g-g3yNSakf5hB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Richard Hanania</strong> is President of the Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology (CSPI). He is a former Research Fellow at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. His interests include personality differences between conservatives and liberals, morality in international politics, machine learning algorithms for text analysis, and American foreign policy. In addition to his academic work, he has written in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post. Hanania holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from UCLA and a JD from the University of Chicago.</p><p>He is the author of the recently published Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of Grand Strategy: How Generals, Weapons Manufacturers, and Foreign Governments Shape American Foreign Policy.</p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>Richard Hanania on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardHanania">https://twitter.com/RichardHanania</a></p><p>CSPI - <a href="https://cspicenter.org/">https://cspicenter.org/</a></p><p>Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of Grand Strategy<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Public-Choice-Theory-Illusion-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09L9Y2W7S">https://www.amazon.com/Public-Choice-Theory-Illusion-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09L9Y2W7S</a></p><p>The Great Awokening | Zach Goldberg &amp; Richard Hanania<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UmdveWMURc&amp;ab_channel=CSPI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UmdveWMURc&amp;ab_channel=CSPI</a></p><p>Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.<br />--</p><p>Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU.</p><p>Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter @hsu_steve.</p>
<br /><p>Announcing this for some friends at <a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu-home">Mechanize</a> - a startup that builds environments for training and evaluating frontier LLMs. Its customers include the top AI labs, and it has contributed to the breakthrough in coding capabilities of frontier models. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize is hiring! </p><p><a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu">https://mechanize.work/b/hsu </a></p><p><br /></p><p>Compensation is extremely competitive. For technical roles, $300-500k. They are also seeking smart generalists. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example: </p><p><br /></p><p>Research Engineer, Alignment: Build evals that test for misaligned model behaviors  $500K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Puzzle Maker: Design interesting and original puzzles that LLMs can’t yet solve  $300K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize understands that my readership is highly selected. There is a VERY GOOD CHANCE you will be interviewed if you apply via the link above.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Steve Hsu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-g3yNSakf5hB/">Manifold</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5482dbb0a5a44226adfb9fa0df310e24/">Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, & Geostrategy — #3</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5482dbb0a5a44226adfb9fa0df310e24/&notes=Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, & Geostrategy — #3">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-sIz1jBxpu4g-g3yNSakf5hB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Richard Hanania</strong> is President of the Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology (CSPI). He is a former Research Fellow at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. His interests include personality differences between conservatives and liberals, morality in international politics, machine learning algorithms for text analysis, and American foreign policy. In addition to his academic work, he has written in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post. Hanania holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from UCLA and a JD from the University of Chicago.</p><p>He is the author of the recently published Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of Grand Strategy: How Generals, Weapons Manufacturers, and Foreign Governments Shape American Foreign Policy.</p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>Richard Hanania on Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardHanania">https://twitter.com/RichardHanania</a></p><p>CSPI - <a href="https://cspicenter.org/">https://cspicenter.org/</a></p><p>Public Choice Theory and the Illusion of Grand Strategy<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Public-Choice-Theory-Illusion-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09L9Y2W7S">https://www.amazon.com/Public-Choice-Theory-Illusion-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09L9Y2W7S</a></p><p>The Great Awokening | Zach Goldberg &amp; Richard Hanania<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UmdveWMURc&amp;ab_channel=CSPI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UmdveWMURc&amp;ab_channel=CSPI</a></p><p>Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.<br />--</p><p>Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU.</p><p>Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter @hsu_steve.</p>
<br /><p>Announcing this for some friends at <a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu-home">Mechanize</a> - a startup that builds environments for training and evaluating frontier LLMs. Its customers include the top AI labs, and it has contributed to the breakthrough in coding capabilities of frontier models. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize is hiring! </p><p><a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu">https://mechanize.work/b/hsu </a></p><p><br /></p><p>Compensation is extremely competitive. For technical roles, $300-500k. They are also seeking smart generalists. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example: </p><p><br /></p><p>Research Engineer, Alignment: Build evals that test for misaligned model behaviors  $500K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Puzzle Maker: Design interesting and original puzzles that LLMs can’t yet solve  $300K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize understands that my readership is highly selected. There is a VERY GOOD CHANCE you will be interviewed if you apply via the link above.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Steve Hsu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Richard Hanania: Wokeness, Public Choice Theory, & Geostrategy — #3
Pub date: 2022-02-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/5482dbb0a5a44226adfb9fa0df310e24/

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            <title>Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, &amp; Artificial Intelligence — #9</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-g3yNSakf5hB/">Manifold</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/00205e1ea65b4493b35bf34b66d71833/">Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, & Artificial Intelligence — #9</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/00205e1ea65b4493b35bf34b66d71833/&notes=Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, & Artificial Intelligence — #9">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-sIz1jBxpu4g-g3yNSakf5hB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Scott Aaronson</strong> is the David J. Bruton Centennial Professor of <a href="https://login.cs.utexas.edu/">Computer Science</a> at <a href="https://www.utexas.edu/">The University of Texas at Austin</a>, and director of its <a href="https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~qic/">Quantum Information Center</a>. Previously, he taught for nine years in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT. His research interests center around the capabilities and limits of quantum computers, and computational complexity theory more generally.</p><p> </p><p>Scott also writes the blog Shtetl Optimized: <a href="https://scottaaronson.blog/">https://scottaaronson.blog/</a></p><p> </p><p>Steve and Scott discuss:</p><ol><li>Scott's childhood and education, first exposure to mathematics and computers.</li><li>How he became interested in computational complexity, pursuing it rather than AI/ML.</li><li>The development of quantum computation and quantum information theory from the 1980s to the present. Scott's work on quantum supremacy.</li><li>AGI, AI Safety</li></ol><p><br />Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.</p><p><strong>Steve Hsu</strong> is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU.</p><p><br />Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/hsu_steve">@hsu_steve</a>.</p>
<br /><p>Announcing this for some friends at <a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu-home">Mechanize</a> - a startup that builds environments for training and evaluating frontier LLMs. Its customers include the top AI labs, and it has contributed to the breakthrough in coding capabilities of frontier models. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize is hiring! </p><p><a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu">https://mechanize.work/b/hsu </a></p><p><br /></p><p>Compensation is extremely competitive. For technical roles, $300-500k. They are also seeking smart generalists. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example: </p><p><br /></p><p>Research Engineer, Alignment: Build evals that test for misaligned model behaviors  $500K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Puzzle Maker: Design interesting and original puzzles that LLMs can’t yet solve  $300K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize understands that my readership is highly selected. There is a VERY GOOD CHANCE you will be interviewed if you apply via the link above.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Steve Hsu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-g3yNSakf5hB/">Manifold</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/00205e1ea65b4493b35bf34b66d71833/">Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, & Artificial Intelligence — #9</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/00205e1ea65b4493b35bf34b66d71833/&notes=Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, & Artificial Intelligence — #9">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/manifold-steve-hsu-sIz1jBxpu4g-g3yNSakf5hB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Scott Aaronson</strong> is the David J. Bruton Centennial Professor of <a href="https://login.cs.utexas.edu/">Computer Science</a> at <a href="https://www.utexas.edu/">The University of Texas at Austin</a>, and director of its <a href="https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~qic/">Quantum Information Center</a>. Previously, he taught for nine years in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT. His research interests center around the capabilities and limits of quantum computers, and computational complexity theory more generally.</p><p> </p><p>Scott also writes the blog Shtetl Optimized: <a href="https://scottaaronson.blog/">https://scottaaronson.blog/</a></p><p> </p><p>Steve and Scott discuss:</p><ol><li>Scott's childhood and education, first exposure to mathematics and computers.</li><li>How he became interested in computational complexity, pursuing it rather than AI/ML.</li><li>The development of quantum computation and quantum information theory from the 1980s to the present. Scott's work on quantum supremacy.</li><li>AGI, AI Safety</li></ol><p><br />Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.</p><p><strong>Steve Hsu</strong> is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU.</p><p><br />Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/hsu_steve">@hsu_steve</a>.</p>
<br /><p>Announcing this for some friends at <a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu-home">Mechanize</a> - a startup that builds environments for training and evaluating frontier LLMs. Its customers include the top AI labs, and it has contributed to the breakthrough in coding capabilities of frontier models. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize is hiring! </p><p><a href="https://mechanize.work/b/hsu">https://mechanize.work/b/hsu </a></p><p><br /></p><p>Compensation is extremely competitive. For technical roles, $300-500k. They are also seeking smart generalists. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example: </p><p><br /></p><p>Research Engineer, Alignment: Build evals that test for misaligned model behaviors  $500K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Puzzle Maker: Design interesting and original puzzles that LLMs can’t yet solve  $300K salary </p><p><br /></p><p>Mechanize understands that my readership is highly selected. There is a VERY GOOD CHANCE you will be interviewed if you apply via the link above.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Steve Hsu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Manifold
Episode: Scott Aaronson: Quantum Computing, Unsolvable Problems, & Artificial Intelligence — #9
Pub date: 2022-04-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/00205e1ea65b4493b35bf34b66d71833/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Steve Hsu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 20:51:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being &#x27;Married to your Work&#x27;</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founders-mindset-entrepreneur-first-edJVA2gOjZ3/">The Founder's Mindset</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/60227cd77dd348eda64c475bb329073f/">S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being 'Married to your Work'</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/60227cd77dd348eda64c475bb329073f/&notes=S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being 'Married to your Work'">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founders-mindset-TuCY-yXdcG6-edJVA2gOjZ3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode Gena spoke with Ray and Rebecca Girn, two people who utterly defy all conventional wisdom about maintaining work-life balance.</p>

<p>When it comes to both work and love, they are, as they often describe it, “all in”. Ray and Rebecca are part of the founding team of Higher Ground Education, which offers a radically different kind of education, centred around developing natural interests rather than formal teaching. Higher Ground owns and operates over 100 Montessori schools, one of which Gena’s daughter attends.</p>

<p>This is a conversation about what it’s like to put all your eggs in one basket. Ray and Rebecca don’t mince words about what makes that approach so difficult, but they’ll also get you thinking about why it’s so sublimely and unquestionably worth it.</p>

<p>Subscribe to The Founder’s Mindset so you never miss an episode.</p>

<p>This is a podcast from Entrepreneur First. Learn more at <a href="http://joinef.com/" target="_blank">joinef.com</a></p>

<p>Thank you to <a href="https://studio.podcast.co/www.wearewoolly.com" target="_blank">Woolly Mammoth Media</a> for consulting on and producing the show.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Entrepreneur First, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founders-mindset-entrepreneur-first-edJVA2gOjZ3/">The Founder's Mindset</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/60227cd77dd348eda64c475bb329073f/">S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being 'Married to your Work'</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-09-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/60227cd77dd348eda64c475bb329073f/&notes=S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being 'Married to your Work'">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-founders-mindset-TuCY-yXdcG6-edJVA2gOjZ3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode Gena spoke with Ray and Rebecca Girn, two people who utterly defy all conventional wisdom about maintaining work-life balance.</p>

<p>When it comes to both work and love, they are, as they often describe it, “all in”. Ray and Rebecca are part of the founding team of Higher Ground Education, which offers a radically different kind of education, centred around developing natural interests rather than formal teaching. Higher Ground owns and operates over 100 Montessori schools, one of which Gena’s daughter attends.</p>

<p>This is a conversation about what it’s like to put all your eggs in one basket. Ray and Rebecca don’t mince words about what makes that approach so difficult, but they’ll also get you thinking about why it’s so sublimely and unquestionably worth it.</p>

<p>Subscribe to The Founder’s Mindset so you never miss an episode.</p>

<p>This is a podcast from Entrepreneur First. Learn more at <a href="http://joinef.com/" target="_blank">joinef.com</a></p>

<p>Thank you to <a href="https://studio.podcast.co/www.wearewoolly.com" target="_blank">Woolly Mammoth Media</a> for consulting on and producing the show.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Entrepreneur First, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Founder's Mindset
Episode: S2 | E5: Wanting it All, or Nothing at All: A Case for Being 'Married to your Work'
Pub date: 2022-09-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/60227cd77dd348eda64c475bb329073f/

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            <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2022 05:19:41 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>YBS: Parenting, an Objectivist Perspective with Gina Gorlin &amp; Rebecca Girn</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/yaron-brook-show-yaron-brook-4VnK6FzL2ua/">Yaron Brook Show</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bc6a1110cf474e369841b7871887aa80/">YBS: Parenting, an Objectivist Perspective with Gina Gorlin & Rebecca Girn</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-07-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bc6a1110cf474e369841b7871887aa80/&notes=YBS: Parenting, an Objectivist Perspective with Gina Gorlin & Rebecca Girn">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/yaron-brook-show-yaron-brook-4VnK6FzL2ua.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Like​ what you hear? Like, share, and subscribe to stay updated on new videos and help promote the Yaron Brook Show: <a href="http://youtube.com" rel="noopener">http://youtube.com</a>/ybrook​​​​<br /><br />Become a sponsor to get exclusive access and help create more videos like this: <a href="http://yaronbrookshow.com" rel="noopener">http://yaronbrookshow.com</a>/support​​​​<br /><br />Or make a one-time donation: <a href="http://paypal.me" rel="noopener">http://paypal.me</a>/yaronbrookshow​​​​<br /><br />Continue the discussion by following Yaron on Twitter (<a href="http://twitter.com" rel="noopener">http://twitter.com</a>/yaronbrook​​​​) and Facebook (<a href="http://facebook.com" rel="noopener">http://facebook.com</a>/ybrook​​​​). <br /><br />Want to learn more about Ayn Rand and Objectivism? Visit the Ayn Rand Institute: <a href="http://ari.aynrand" rel="noopener">http://ari.aynrand</a>.org​​<br /><br />#Children #School #Parents #Objectivism​ #AynRand<br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/yaron-brook-show--3276901/support?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/yaron-brook-show--3276901/support</a>.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Yaron Brook, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Pub date: 2021-07-07

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            <title>#101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77/">#101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-06-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77/&notes=#101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Joscha Bach is the VP of Research at the AI Foundation, previously doing research at MIT and Harvard. Joscha work explores the workings of the human mind, intelligence, consciousness, life on Earth, and the possibly-simulated fabric of our universe.</p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast.</span>&#160;If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/ai">https://lexfridman.com/ai</a> or connect with @lexfridman on <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman/">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">Medium</a>, or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/lexfridman">YouTube</a> where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/artificial-intelligence/id1434243584">Apple Podcasts</a>, follow on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">Spotify</a>, or support it on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">Patreon</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.</p>
<p>OUTLINE:<br />
00:00 &#8211; Introduction<br />
03:14 &#8211; Reverse engineering Joscha Bach<br />
10:38 &#8211; Nature of truth<br />
18:47 &#8211; Original thinking<br />
23:14 &#8211; Sentience vs intelligence<br />
31:45 &#8211; Mind vs Reality<br />
46:51 &#8211; Hard problem of consciousness<br />
51:09 &#8211; Connection between the mind and the universe<br />
56:29 &#8211; What is consciousness<br />
1:02:32 &#8211; Language and concepts<br />
1:09:02 &#8211; Meta-learning<br />
1:16:35 &#8211; Spirit<br />
1:18:10 &#8211; Our civilization may not exist for long<br />
1:37:48 &#8211; Twitter and social media<br />
1:44:52 &#8211; What systems of government might work well?<br />
1:47:12 &#8211; The way out of self-destruction with AI<br />
1:55:18 &#8211; AI simulating humans to understand its own nature<br />
2:04:32 &#8211; Reinforcement learning<br />
2:09:12 &#8211; Commonsense reasoning<br />
2:15:47 &#8211; Would AGI need to have a body?<br />
2:22:34 &#8211; Neuralink<br />
2:27:01 &#8211; Reasoning at the scale of neurons and societies<br />
2:37:16 &#8211; Role of emotion<br />
2:48:03 &#8211; Happiness is a cookie that your brain bakes for itself</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77/">#101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-06-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77/&notes=#101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Joscha Bach is the VP of Research at the AI Foundation, previously doing research at MIT and Harvard. Joscha work explores the workings of the human mind, intelligence, consciousness, life on Earth, and the possibly-simulated fabric of our universe.</p>
<p>Support this podcast by supporting these sponsors:<br />
&#8211; ExpressVPN at <a href="https://www.expressvpn.com/lexpod">https://www.expressvpn.com/lexpod</a><span style="font-size: 1rem;"><br />
</span>&#8211; Cash App – use code &#8220;LexPodcast&#8221; and download:<br />
&#8211; Cash App (App Store): <a href="https://apple.co/2sPrUHe">https://apple.co/2sPrUHe</a><br />
&#8211; Cash App (Google Play): <a href="https://bit.ly/2MlvP5w">https://bit.ly/2MlvP5w</a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast.</span>&#160;If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/ai">https://lexfridman.com/ai</a> or connect with @lexfridman on <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman/">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">Medium</a>, or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/lexfridman">YouTube</a> where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/artificial-intelligence/id1434243584">Apple Podcasts</a>, follow on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL">Spotify</a>, or support it on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">Patreon</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.</p>
<p>OUTLINE:<br />
00:00 &#8211; Introduction<br />
03:14 &#8211; Reverse engineering Joscha Bach<br />
10:38 &#8211; Nature of truth<br />
18:47 &#8211; Original thinking<br />
23:14 &#8211; Sentience vs intelligence<br />
31:45 &#8211; Mind vs Reality<br />
46:51 &#8211; Hard problem of consciousness<br />
51:09 &#8211; Connection between the mind and the universe<br />
56:29 &#8211; What is consciousness<br />
1:02:32 &#8211; Language and concepts<br />
1:09:02 &#8211; Meta-learning<br />
1:16:35 &#8211; Spirit<br />
1:18:10 &#8211; Our civilization may not exist for long<br />
1:37:48 &#8211; Twitter and social media<br />
1:44:52 &#8211; What systems of government might work well?<br />
1:47:12 &#8211; The way out of self-destruction with AI<br />
1:55:18 &#8211; AI simulating humans to understand its own nature<br />
2:04:32 &#8211; Reinforcement learning<br />
2:09:12 &#8211; Commonsense reasoning<br />
2:15:47 &#8211; Would AGI need to have a body?<br />
2:22:34 &#8211; Neuralink<br />
2:27:01 &#8211; Reasoning at the scale of neurons and societies<br />
2:37:16 &#8211; Role of emotion<br />
2:48:03 &#8211; Happiness is a cookie that your brain bakes for itself</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Lex Fridman Podcast
Episode: #101 – Joscha Bach: Artificial Consciousness and the Nature of Reality
Pub date: 2020-06-13

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/5e11aa439a2043e78bb878455467ff77/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:23:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Lex Fridman</author>



            
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            <title>#212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/88a10924ed8341e29d479b4545bed0e2</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/88a10924ed8341e29d479b4545bed0e2/">#212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/88a10924ed8341e29d479b4545bed0e2/&notes=#212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Joscha&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Plinz">https://twitter.com/Plinz</a><br />
Joscha&#8217;s Website: <a href="http://bach.ai">http://bach.ai</a></p>
<p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br />
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br />
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&#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br />
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:15) &#8211; Life is hard<br />
(09:38) &#8211; Consciousness<br />
(16:24) &#8211; What is life?<br />
(26:33) &#8211; Free will<br />
(40:38) &#8211; Simulation<br />
(42:49) &#8211; Base layer of reality<br />
(58:24) &#8211; Boston Dynamics<br />
(1:06:43) &#8211; Engineering consciousness<br />
(1:17:12) &#8211; Suffering<br />
(1:26:06) &#8211; Postmodernism<br />
(1:30:25) &#8211; Psychedelics<br />
(1:43:40) &#8211; GPT-3<br />
(1:52:22) &#8211; GPT-4<br />
(1:58:47) &#8211; OpenAI Codex<br />
(2:01:02) &#8211; Humans vs AI: Who is more dangerous?<br />
(2:17:47) &#8211; Hitler<br />
(2:22:44) &#8211; Autonomous weapon systems<br />
(2:30:11) &#8211; Mark Zuckerberg<br />
(2:35:47) &#8211; Love<br />
(2:50:00) &#8211; Michael Malice and anarchism<br />
(3:06:57) &#8211; Love<br />
(3:11:05) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(3:15:42) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/88a10924ed8341e29d479b4545bed0e2/">#212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/88a10924ed8341e29d479b4545bed0e2/&notes=#212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
&#8211; <b>Coinbase</b>: <a href="https://coinbase.com/lex">https://coinbase.com/lex</a> to get $5 in free Bitcoin<br />
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:15) &#8211; Life is hard<br />
(09:38) &#8211; Consciousness<br />
(16:24) &#8211; What is life?<br />
(26:33) &#8211; Free will<br />
(40:38) &#8211; Simulation<br />
(42:49) &#8211; Base layer of reality<br />
(58:24) &#8211; Boston Dynamics<br />
(1:06:43) &#8211; Engineering consciousness<br />
(1:17:12) &#8211; Suffering<br />
(1:26:06) &#8211; Postmodernism<br />
(1:30:25) &#8211; Psychedelics<br />
(1:43:40) &#8211; GPT-3<br />
(1:52:22) &#8211; GPT-4<br />
(1:58:47) &#8211; OpenAI Codex<br />
(2:01:02) &#8211; Humans vs AI: Who is more dangerous?<br />
(2:17:47) &#8211; Hitler<br />
(2:22:44) &#8211; Autonomous weapon systems<br />
(2:30:11) &#8211; Mark Zuckerberg<br />
(2:35:47) &#8211; Love<br />
(2:50:00) &#8211; Michael Malice and anarchism<br />
(3:06:57) &#8211; Love<br />
(3:11:05) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(3:15:42) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: #212 – Joscha Bach: Nature of Reality, Dreams, and Consciousness
Pub date: 2021-08-21

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-uNErdBU9mb3/">The Michael Shermer Show</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d27afcca9c2e4f9bb19cf13954479f80/">142. Philip Goff — Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-11-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d27afcca9c2e4f9bb19cf13954479f80/&notes=142. Philip Goff — Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-WpCKLrmQP06-uNErdBU9mb3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Understanding how brains produce consciousness is one of the great scientific challenges of our age. Some philosophers argue that consciousness is something "extra," beyond the physical workings of the brain. Others think that if we persist in our standard scientific methods, our questions about consciousness will eventually be answered. And some even suggest that the mystery is so deep, it will never be solved. Decades have been spent trying to explain consciousness from within our current scientific paradigm, but little progress has been made.</p> <p>Now, Philip Goff offers an exciting alternative that could pave the way forward. Rooted in an analysis of the philosophical underpinnings of modern science and based on the early twentieth-century work of Arthur Eddington and Bertrand Russell, Goff makes the case for panpsychism, a theory which posits that consciousness is not confined to biological entities but is a fundamental feature of all physical matter — from subatomic particles to the human brain. In <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0525564772/?tag=skepticcom20-20">Galileo's Error</a></em>, he has provided the first step on a new path to the final theory of human consciousness. Shermer and Goff discuss:</p> <ul> <li>the problem Galileo's approach to science solved,</li> <li>Galileo's error in solving the consciousness problem, that is the qualitative,</li> <li>Dualism, Monism, Panpsychism,</li> <li>Material Monism, Mind Monism, and Idealism,</li> <li>hard problem of consciousness defined,</li> <li>how consciousness is at the bottom of reality,</li> <li>why science cannot discover the ultimate nature of reality,</li> <li>Model Dependent Realism, philosophy, and science,</li> <li>Arthur Stanley Eddington and Bertrand Russell build panpsychism back into science,</li> <li>philosophical zombies and the "other minds problem,"</li> <li>free will, determinism, compatibilism, and panpsychism,</li> <li>objective moral values and science,</li> <li>fine tuning and the multiverse, and</li> <li>implications of panpsychism for attitudes toward nature and the meaning of life.</li> </ul> <p>Philip Goff is a philosopher who teaches at Durham University. He is the author of <em>Consciousness and Fundamental Reality</em> and has published more than 40 academic papers. His writing has also appeared in many newspapers and magazines, including <em>The Guardian</em> and <em>The Times Literary Supplement</em>, and he has guest-edited an issue of <em>Philosophy Now</em>. He lives in Durham, England.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Michael Shermer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-uNErdBU9mb3/">The Michael Shermer Show</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d27afcca9c2e4f9bb19cf13954479f80/">142. Philip Goff — Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-11-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d27afcca9c2e4f9bb19cf13954479f80/&notes=142. Philip Goff — Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-WpCKLrmQP06-uNErdBU9mb3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Understanding how brains produce consciousness is one of the great scientific challenges of our age. Some philosophers argue that consciousness is something "extra," beyond the physical workings of the brain. Others think that if we persist in our standard scientific methods, our questions about consciousness will eventually be answered. And some even suggest that the mystery is so deep, it will never be solved. Decades have been spent trying to explain consciousness from within our current scientific paradigm, but little progress has been made.</p> <p>Now, Philip Goff offers an exciting alternative that could pave the way forward. Rooted in an analysis of the philosophical underpinnings of modern science and based on the early twentieth-century work of Arthur Eddington and Bertrand Russell, Goff makes the case for panpsychism, a theory which posits that consciousness is not confined to biological entities but is a fundamental feature of all physical matter — from subatomic particles to the human brain. In <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0525564772/?tag=skepticcom20-20">Galileo's Error</a></em>, he has provided the first step on a new path to the final theory of human consciousness. Shermer and Goff discuss:</p> <ul> <li>the problem Galileo's approach to science solved,</li> <li>Galileo's error in solving the consciousness problem, that is the qualitative,</li> <li>Dualism, Monism, Panpsychism,</li> <li>Material Monism, Mind Monism, and Idealism,</li> <li>hard problem of consciousness defined,</li> <li>how consciousness is at the bottom of reality,</li> <li>why science cannot discover the ultimate nature of reality,</li> <li>Model Dependent Realism, philosophy, and science,</li> <li>Arthur Stanley Eddington and Bertrand Russell build panpsychism back into science,</li> <li>philosophical zombies and the "other minds problem,"</li> <li>free will, determinism, compatibilism, and panpsychism,</li> <li>objective moral values and science,</li> <li>fine tuning and the multiverse, and</li> <li>implications of panpsychism for attitudes toward nature and the meaning of life.</li> </ul> <p>Philip Goff is a philosopher who teaches at Durham University. He is the author of <em>Consciousness and Fundamental Reality</em> and has published more than 40 academic papers. His writing has also appeared in many newspapers and magazines, including <em>The Guardian</em> and <em>The Times Literary Supplement</em>, and he has guest-edited an issue of <em>Philosophy Now</em>. He lives in Durham, England.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Michael Shermer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: 142. Philip Goff — Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness
Pub date: 2020-11-09

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/futures-podcast-luke-robert-mason-iqUKDFEI_N1/">FUTURES Podcast</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2f5fb9cff0244298839255498dd79abd/">Mysteries of Consciousness w/ Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-11-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2f5fb9cff0244298839255498dd79abd/&notes=Mysteries of Consciousness w/ Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/futures-podcast-luke-robert-mason-gKIA3yJsPLC-iqUKDFEI_N1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p class="">Philosopher Philip Goff shares his thoughts on a radical new understanding of consciousness called panpsychism, the relationship between consciousness and the material world, and the implications of this new theory on the modern scientific method.</p> <p class="">Philip Goff is a philosopher who teaches at Durham University. He is the author of <em>Consciousness and Fundamental Reality</em> and has published more than forty academic papers. His writing has also appeared in many newspapers and magazines, including <em>The Guardian</em> and <em>The Times Literary Supplement,</em> and he has guest-edited an issue of <em>Philosophy Now.</em> He lives in Durham, England.</p> <p class="">Find out more: <a href="http://futurespodcast.net">futurespodcast.net</a></p> <p>CREDITS</p> <p>Produced by FUTURES Podcast</p> <p>Recorded, Mixed & Edited by Luke Robert Mason</p> <p>FOLLOW</p> <p>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/futurespodcast">twitter.com/futurespodcast</a> </p> <p>Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/futurespodcast">facebook.com/futurespodcast</a></p> <p>Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/futurespodcast">instagram.com/futurespodcast</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Luke Robert Mason, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Episode: Mysteries of Consciousness w/ Philip Goff
Pub date: 2021-11-01

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            <title>Panpsychism to the rescue | Philip Goff</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-TH6k1b80r-j/">Philosophy For Our Times</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4c17e5ff0d63422aa739a431dfbbf1b9/">Panpsychism to the rescue | Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4c17e5ff0d63422aa739a431dfbbf1b9/&notes=Panpsychism to the rescue | Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-PO-MRc81jL6-TH6k1b80r-j.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Looking for a link we mentioned? It's here: <a href="https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes</a></p><p>Is it possible for all matter in the universe to hold consciousness? And can the theory of panpsychism be the solution to the problems of materialism and dualism?</p><p>To help us explore realms of panpsychism we’re joined by author and professor of philosophy at the university of Durham, Phillip Goff.</p><p>There are thousands of big ideas to discover at IAI.tv – videos, articles, and courses waiting for you to explore. Find out more: <a href="https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=panpsychism-to-the-rescue" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=panpsychism-to-the-rescue</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Institute of Art and Ideas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-TH6k1b80r-j/">Philosophy For Our Times</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4c17e5ff0d63422aa739a431dfbbf1b9/">Panpsychism to the rescue | Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4c17e5ff0d63422aa739a431dfbbf1b9/&notes=Panpsychism to the rescue | Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-PO-MRc81jL6-TH6k1b80r-j.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Looking for a link we mentioned? It's here: <a href="https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes</a></p><p>Is it possible for all matter in the universe to hold consciousness? And can the theory of panpsychism be the solution to the problems of materialism and dualism?</p><p>To help us explore realms of panpsychism we’re joined by author and professor of philosophy at the university of Durham, Phillip Goff.</p><p>There are thousands of big ideas to discover at IAI.tv – videos, articles, and courses waiting for you to explore. Find out more: <a href="https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=panpsychism-to-the-rescue" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=panpsychism-to-the-rescue</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Institute of Art and Ideas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-TGxe0AypXg4/">Living Mirrors with Dr. James Cooke</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b56410710d2f480b8c594c5f8d0f84ce/">Philip Goff on panpsychism | Living Mirrors #77</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b56410710d2f480b8c594c5f8d0f84ce/&notes=Philip Goff on panpsychism | Living Mirrors #77">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-PTiEuGDfHJq-TGxe0AypXg4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Philip Goff is a philosopher and consciousness researcher at Durham University in the UK. His research focuses on how to integrate consciousness into our scientific worldview and he is an advocate for panpsychism, the view that consciousness is fundamental and widespread in the universe. He is the author of an academic book on the subject, Consciousness and Fundamental Reality, and a book aimed at the general public, Galileo's Error. Today we talk about the place of consciousness in our universe with a particular focus on panpsychism. @Philip_Goff https://www.philipgoffphilosophy.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/MindChat<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. James Cooke, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-TGxe0AypXg4/">Living Mirrors with Dr. James Cooke</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b56410710d2f480b8c594c5f8d0f84ce/">Philip Goff on panpsychism | Living Mirrors #77</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b56410710d2f480b8c594c5f8d0f84ce/&notes=Philip Goff on panpsychism | Living Mirrors #77">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/living-mirrors-with-dr-james-cooke-dr-james-PTiEuGDfHJq-TGxe0AypXg4.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Philip Goff is a philosopher and consciousness researcher at Durham University in the UK. His research focuses on how to integrate consciousness into our scientific worldview and he is an advocate for panpsychism, the view that consciousness is fundamental and widespread in the universe. He is the author of an academic book on the subject, Consciousness and Fundamental Reality, and a book aimed at the general public, Galileo's Error. Today we talk about the place of consciousness in our universe with a particular focus on panpsychism. @Philip_Goff https://www.philipgoffphilosophy.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/MindChat<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. James Cooke, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/counter-apologetics-emerson-green-8BjVAuynCPF/">Counter Apologetics</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/eba758fc885348a6ab64ce7d6b745bff/">CA80 Secular Christianity with Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-12-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/eba758fc885348a6ab64ce7d6b745bff/&notes=CA80 Secular Christianity with Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/counter-apologetics-emerson-green-8BjVAuynCPF.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><div class="_2TO-components-SimpleRichTextEditor--paragraphElement">
<div class="public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr"><span>Non-believing Christian Philip Goff joins us to discuss religious fictionalism, literalism, religious language, Jordan Peterson, the resurrection, the spread of Christianity, the transcendent, and Christianity without theism.</span></div>
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<div class="public-DraftStyleDefault-block public-DraftStyleDefault-ltr"><span>Philip is a philosopher who teaches at Durham University. He is the author of Galileo’s Error and Consciousness and Fundamental Reality. He’s published more than forty academic papers, and his writing has appeared in many newspapers and magazines, including The Guardian and The Times Literary Supplement.</span></div>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/counter-apologetics-emerson-green-8BjVAuynCPF/">Counter Apologetics</a> (LS 43 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/eba758fc885348a6ab64ce7d6b745bff/">CA80 Secular Christianity with Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-12-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/eba758fc885348a6ab64ce7d6b745bff/&notes=CA80 Secular Christianity with Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/counter-apologetics-emerson-green-8BjVAuynCPF.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><div class="_2TO-components-SimpleRichTextEditor--paragraphElement">
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Episode: CA80 Secular Christianity with Philip Goff
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-TH6k1b80r-j/">Philosophy For Our Times</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be55e4042ebe40e7b96b8f0ea3b96499/">Panpsychism vs physics | Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be55e4042ebe40e7b96b8f0ea3b96499/&notes=Panpsychism vs physics | Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-PO-MRc81jL6-TH6k1b80r-j.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>How does panpsychism clash with fundamental physics? Does it? Can we find a theory that supports science AND philosophy to finally explain consciousness?</p><p>Looking for a link we mentioned? It's here: <a href="https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes</a></p><p>In this episode Philip Goff responds to recent critiques of panpsychism by theoretical physicists Sean Carroll and Sabine Hossenfelder, and then explores some implications for the science of consciousness.</p><p>Philip Goff is a philosopher of consciousness at Durham University. His research focuses on integrating consciousness into our scientific worldview. His 2019 book Galileo's Error sets out his defence of panpsychism rooted in an analysis of the work of Arthur Eddington and Bertrand Russell.</p><p>There are thousands of big ideas to discover at IAI.tv – videos, articles, and courses waiting for you to explore. Find out more: <a href="https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=the-many-voices-of-consciousness" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=the-many-voices-of-consciousness</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Institute of Art and Ideas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-TH6k1b80r-j/">Philosophy For Our Times</a> (LS 53 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be55e4042ebe40e7b96b8f0ea3b96499/">Panpsychism vs physics | Philip Goff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be55e4042ebe40e7b96b8f0ea3b96499/&notes=Panpsychism vs physics | Philip Goff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-for-our-times-institute-of-art-PO-MRc81jL6-TH6k1b80r-j.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>How does panpsychism clash with fundamental physics? Does it? Can we find a theory that supports science AND philosophy to finally explain consciousness?</p><p>Looking for a link we mentioned? It's here: <a href="https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/philosophyforourtimes</a></p><p>In this episode Philip Goff responds to recent critiques of panpsychism by theoretical physicists Sean Carroll and Sabine Hossenfelder, and then explores some implications for the science of consciousness.</p><p>Philip Goff is a philosopher of consciousness at Durham University. His research focuses on integrating consciousness into our scientific worldview. His 2019 book Galileo's Error sets out his defence of panpsychism rooted in an analysis of the work of Arthur Eddington and Bertrand Russell.</p><p>There are thousands of big ideas to discover at IAI.tv – videos, articles, and courses waiting for you to explore. Find out more: <a href="https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=the-many-voices-of-consciousness" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://iai.tv/podcast-offers?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=the-many-voices-of-consciousness</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Institute of Art and Ideas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Panpsychism vs physics | Philip Goff
Pub date: 2022-03-15

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/walden-pod-emerson-green-AeMujFR_XzB/">Walden Pod</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bbb75ba1ccfd47b49f3816852327db28/">Unlocked - Thomas Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos'</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bbb75ba1ccfd47b49f3816852327db28/&notes=Unlocked - Thomas Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos'">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/walden-pod-emerson-green-09qnCiyA5OF-AeMujFR_XzB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><div>We discuss Thomas Nagel's controversial book, Mind and Cosmos. The book has quite a reputation, but I think it's often misunderstood. Intelligent design proponents, happy to be taken seriously for once, hilariously extol the book. They don’t seem to realize that while the book does take them more seriously than they’re used to, it also provides naturalistic answers to all their objections. I guess they only read the subtitle. Naturalists, atheists, and darwinists, on the other hand, seem to perceive this book as a threat, which is mostly Nagel’s fault for his controversial presentation, and failing to make clear that he’s making adjustments to the dominant paradigm and not rejecting it in favor of theism or mysticism. His proposed adjustments are radical to be sure, but it’s flatly untrue to say he’s an evolution denier or anti-naturalist.<br /><br />We also discuss Nagel's neutral monism, natural teleology, and philosophy of science.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Cosmos-Materialist-Neo-Darwinian-Conception/dp/0199919755">Mind and Cosmos</a> [Amazon] <br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-cosmos/">Nagel - The Core of Mind and Cosmos</a> [NYT] <br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/08/22/mind-and-cosmos/">Sean Carroll on Mind and Cosmos</a> [Preposterous Universe]<br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/Where-Thomas-Nagel-Went-Wrong/139129/">Michael Chorost - Mind and Cosmos</a> [Chronicle of Higher Education] </div><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Emerson Green, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/walden-pod-emerson-green-AeMujFR_XzB/">Walden Pod</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bbb75ba1ccfd47b49f3816852327db28/">Unlocked - Thomas Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos'</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bbb75ba1ccfd47b49f3816852327db28/&notes=Unlocked - Thomas Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos'">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/walden-pod-emerson-green-09qnCiyA5OF-AeMujFR_XzB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><div>We discuss Thomas Nagel's controversial book, Mind and Cosmos. The book has quite a reputation, but I think it's often misunderstood. Intelligent design proponents, happy to be taken seriously for once, hilariously extol the book. They don’t seem to realize that while the book does take them more seriously than they’re used to, it also provides naturalistic answers to all their objections. I guess they only read the subtitle. Naturalists, atheists, and darwinists, on the other hand, seem to perceive this book as a threat, which is mostly Nagel’s fault for his controversial presentation, and failing to make clear that he’s making adjustments to the dominant paradigm and not rejecting it in favor of theism or mysticism. His proposed adjustments are radical to be sure, but it’s flatly untrue to say he’s an evolution denier or anti-naturalist.<br /><br />We also discuss Nagel's neutral monism, natural teleology, and philosophy of science.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Cosmos-Materialist-Neo-Darwinian-Conception/dp/0199919755">Mind and Cosmos</a> [Amazon] <br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-cosmos/">Nagel - The Core of Mind and Cosmos</a> [NYT] <br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/08/22/mind-and-cosmos/">Sean Carroll on Mind and Cosmos</a> [Preposterous Universe]<br /><br /></div><div>
<a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/Where-Thomas-Nagel-Went-Wrong/139129/">Michael Chorost - Mind and Cosmos</a> [Chronicle of Higher Education] </div><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Emerson Green, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Walden Pod
Episode: Unlocked - Thomas Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos'
Pub date: 2020-05-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/bbb75ba1ccfd47b49f3816852327db28/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:21:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/84dfd967b5f645799d24c101fcdde8db/">Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/84dfd967b5f645799d24c101fcdde8db/&notes=Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p class="">Meet Jack. Jack, like most individuals, takes great care of his health, appearance, the fulfilment of his projects, and the quality of his relationships with friends and family.</p> <p class="">Today Jack is preparing for another episode of his iconic philosophy podcast. He has been reading diligently, noting fastidiously, and practicing his jokes in the mirror. Fully invested in his work, he goes to great lengths to ensure that the podcast is well received. But today is no ordinary day for Jack, something is about to happen that he could never prepare for.</p> <p class="">Sat at his desk with his nose in Thomas Nagel's Mortal Questions, Jack reaches for his cafetière to refill his Nietzsche coffee mug - when he hears the sound of a heavy creak above him. The room begins to shake, the coffee mug spills, and Jack jumps out of his chair as dust begins to fall around him. Fearing that the roof will cave, he runs out of the house, but finds that the streets are shaking too.</p> <p class="">Like the set of a stage, the neighbourhood before his eyes begins to fall backwards. As the walls hit the ground, Jack sees countless figures in black uniforms running frantically in all directions. He looks up to the sky and sees several tall figures on ladders: a blue figure holds a large, blinding torch, a white figure holds a watering can, and a black figure holds what seems to be a large block of cheese. Jack is overwhelmed with disbelief - he is standing in the middle of a stage. Suddenly, one of the figures shouts instructions to another, who frantically pulls on a rope - the stage rising back to its original position, the figures disappearing.</p> <p class="">It dawns on him: Jack is the actor in a play. What of his life? His childhood? His family and friends? What of his projects? Will he ever be able to return, to his old life?</p> <p class="">Jack ponders the thought for a moment and walks back into his home. He cleans up the coffee, brushes up the dust, sits back down in his chair… and continues, with his reading.</p> <p class="">Contents</p> <p class="">Part I. Thomas Nagel</p> <p class="">Part II. Camus, Criticisms, and Comparison</p> <p class="">Part III. Further Analysis and Discussion</p> <p class="">Links</p> <p class=""><a href="https://philosophy.as.uky.edu/sites/default/files/The%20Absurd%20-%20Thomas%20Nagel.pdf" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Thomas Nagel, <em>The Absurd</em> (1971).</a></p> <p class=""><a href="https://www2.hawaii.edu/~freeman/courses/phil360/16.%20Myth%20of%20Sisyphus.pdf" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Albert Camus, <em>The Myth of Sisyphus</em> (1942).</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/84dfd967b5f645799d24c101fcdde8db/">Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-17<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/84dfd967b5f645799d24c101fcdde8db/&notes=Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p class="">Meet Jack. Jack, like most individuals, takes great care of his health, appearance, the fulfilment of his projects, and the quality of his relationships with friends and family.</p> <p class="">Today Jack is preparing for another episode of his iconic philosophy podcast. He has been reading diligently, noting fastidiously, and practicing his jokes in the mirror. Fully invested in his work, he goes to great lengths to ensure that the podcast is well received. But today is no ordinary day for Jack, something is about to happen that he could never prepare for.</p> <p class="">Sat at his desk with his nose in Thomas Nagel's Mortal Questions, Jack reaches for his cafetière to refill his Nietzsche coffee mug - when he hears the sound of a heavy creak above him. The room begins to shake, the coffee mug spills, and Jack jumps out of his chair as dust begins to fall around him. Fearing that the roof will cave, he runs out of the house, but finds that the streets are shaking too.</p> <p class="">Like the set of a stage, the neighbourhood before his eyes begins to fall backwards. As the walls hit the ground, Jack sees countless figures in black uniforms running frantically in all directions. He looks up to the sky and sees several tall figures on ladders: a blue figure holds a large, blinding torch, a white figure holds a watering can, and a black figure holds what seems to be a large block of cheese. Jack is overwhelmed with disbelief - he is standing in the middle of a stage. Suddenly, one of the figures shouts instructions to another, who frantically pulls on a rope - the stage rising back to its original position, the figures disappearing.</p> <p class="">It dawns on him: Jack is the actor in a play. What of his life? His childhood? His family and friends? What of his projects? Will he ever be able to return, to his old life?</p> <p class="">Jack ponders the thought for a moment and walks back into his home. He cleans up the coffee, brushes up the dust, sits back down in his chair… and continues, with his reading.</p> <p class="">Contents</p> <p class="">Part I. Thomas Nagel</p> <p class="">Part II. Camus, Criticisms, and Comparison</p> <p class="">Part III. Further Analysis and Discussion</p> <p class="">Links</p> <p class=""><a href="https://philosophy.as.uky.edu/sites/default/files/The%20Absurd%20-%20Thomas%20Nagel.pdf" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Thomas Nagel, <em>The Absurd</em> (1971).</a></p> <p class=""><a href="https://www2.hawaii.edu/~freeman/courses/phil360/16.%20Myth%20of%20Sisyphus.pdf" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Albert Camus, <em>The Myth of Sisyphus</em> (1942).</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Episode: Episode 79, The Absurd (Part I - Thomas Nagel)
Pub date: 2020-05-17

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/84dfd967b5f645799d24c101fcdde8db/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:20:51 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill</itunes:author>
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            <title>Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate &#x27;Can Science Explain Consciousness?&#x27; (Part III)</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/918efd03ec66403880b3d5437fa2bcee/">Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part III)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-09-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/918efd03ec66403880b3d5437fa2bcee/&notes=Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part III)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Everything you could need is on www.thepanpsycast.com! Please tweet us your thoughts at www.twitter.com/thepanpsycast. In the words of David Chalmers, "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. When we think and perceive, there is a whir of information-processing, but there is also a subjective aspect. As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism. This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations: the felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field. What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them. All of them are states of experience." Debating the question, 'Does physicalism address the hard problem of consciousness?' are Philip Goff (www.philipgoffphilosophy.com) and David Papineau (www.DavidPapineau.com).</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/918efd03ec66403880b3d5437fa2bcee/">Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part III)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-09-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/918efd03ec66403880b3d5437fa2bcee/&notes=Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part III)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Everything you could need is on www.thepanpsycast.com! Please tweet us your thoughts at www.twitter.com/thepanpsycast. In the words of David Chalmers, "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. When we think and perceive, there is a whir of information-processing, but there is also a subjective aspect. As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism. This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations: the felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field. What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them. All of them are states of experience." Debating the question, 'Does physicalism address the hard problem of consciousness?' are Philip Goff (www.philipgoffphilosophy.com) and David Papineau (www.DavidPapineau.com).</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Episode: Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part III)
Pub date: 2017-09-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/918efd03ec66403880b3d5437fa2bcee/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:20:10 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill</author>



            
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            <title>Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate &#x27;Can Science Explain Consciousness?&#x27; (Part II)</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d583a2886b054233bf7c3871fac55a27/">Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part II)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-09-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d583a2886b054233bf7c3871fac55a27/&notes=Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part II)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Everything you could need is on www.thepanpsycast.com! Please tweet us your thoughts at www.twitter.com/thepanpsycast. In the words of David Chalmers, "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. When we think and perceive, there is a whir of information-processing, but there is also a subjective aspect. As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism. This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations: the felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field. What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them. All of them are states of experience." Debating the question, 'Does physicalism address the hard problem of consciousness?' are Philip Goff (www.philipgoffphilosophy.com) and David Papineau (www.DavidPapineau.com).</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d583a2886b054233bf7c3871fac55a27/">Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part II)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-09-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d583a2886b054233bf7c3871fac55a27/&notes=Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part II)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Everything you could need is on www.thepanpsycast.com! Please tweet us your thoughts at www.twitter.com/thepanpsycast. In the words of David Chalmers, "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. When we think and perceive, there is a whir of information-processing, but there is also a subjective aspect. As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism. This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations: the felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field. What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them. All of them are states of experience." Debating the question, 'Does physicalism address the hard problem of consciousness?' are Philip Goff (www.philipgoffphilosophy.com) and David Papineau (www.DavidPapineau.com).</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Episode: Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part II)
Pub date: 2017-09-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d583a2886b054233bf7c3871fac55a27/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:20:06 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-U3Bpb_0PMaD/">The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/352aad12a8ad429d9274ecfc6beb583e/">Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part I)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-08-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/352aad12a8ad429d9274ecfc6beb583e/&notes=Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part I)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-panpsycast-philosophy-podcast-jack-Gcd-lCvLUA9-U3Bpb_0PMaD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Everything you could need is on www.thepanpsycast.com! Please tweet us your thoughts at www.twitter.com/thepanpsycast. In the words of David Chalmers, "The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. When we think and perceive, there is a whir of information-processing, but there is also a subjective aspect. As Nagel has put it, there is something it is like to be a conscious organism. This subjective aspect is experience. When we see, for example, we experience visual sensations: the felt quality of redness, the experience of dark and light, the quality of depth in a visual field. What unites all of these states is that there is something it is like to be in them. All of them are states of experience." Debating the question, 'Does physicalism address the hard problem of consciousness?' are Philip Goff (www.philipgoffphilosophy.com) and David Papineau (www.DavidPapineau.com).</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, Rose de Castellane, Gregory Mill, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Episode: Episode 25, Philip Goff and David Papineau Debate 'Can Science Explain Consciousness?' (Part I)
Pub date: 2017-08-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/352aad12a8ad429d9274ecfc6beb583e/

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            <title>Kenneth Stanley - Greatness Without Goals - [Invest Like the Best, EP.283]</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/100f3e2bd3d4476e820637c96638cd75/">Kenneth Stanley - Greatness Without Goals - [Invest Like the Best, EP.283]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/100f3e2bd3d4476e820637c96638cd75/&notes=Kenneth Stanley - Greatness Without Goals - [Invest Like the Best, EP.283]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is <a href="https://twitter.com/kenneth0stanley?lang=en">Ken Stanley</a>. Ken is a Professor in Computer Science and a pioneer in the field of neuroevolution. He is also the co-author of a book called, Why Greatness Cannot Be Planned, which details a provocative idea that setting big, audacious goals can reduce the odds of achieving something great. We discuss that revelation in detail and how to apply it in our day-to-day lives. Please enjoy this great discussion with Ken Stanley.</p> <p> </p> <p>For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes/26647719/stanley-growth-without-goals"> here</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.tegus.com/trial/patrick">Tegus</a>. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting <a href="https://www.tegus.com/trial/patrick">tegus.co/patrick</a>. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>Today's episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.brex.com/?partnerId=best">Brex</a>, the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at <a href="https://www.brex.com/?partnerId=best">brex.com/best</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes">joincolossus.com/episodes</a>. </p> <p> </p> <p>Past guests include <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/64592621/lutke-building-a-modern-business?tab=transcript"> Tobi Lutke</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/60313963/krieger-how-to-build-a-great-product?tab=transcript"> Kevin Systrom</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/60313963/krieger-how-to-build-a-great-product?tab=transcript"> Mike Krieger</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/34646260/collison-growing-the-internet-economy?tab=transcript"> John Collison</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/15230717/cole-how-to-operate-lessons-in-brand-distribution-and-leadership?tab=transcript"> Kat Cole</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/58516750/andreessen-making-the-future?tab=blocks"> Marc Andreessen</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/69430337/ball-the-future-of-media-movies-the-metaverse-and-more?tab=transcript"> Matthew Ball</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/12224182/gurley-all-things-business-and-investing?tab=transcript"> Bill Gurley</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/99792081/hariharan-lessons-in-growth-investing?tab=transcript"> Anu Hariharan</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/91241527/thompson-platforms-ecosystems-and-aggregators?tab=transcript"> Ben Thompson</a>, and many more.</p> <p> </p> <p>Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/newsletter">here</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>Follow us on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinColossus">@JoinColossus</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>[00:02:36] - [First question] - The best way to change the world is to stop trying to change it</p> <p>[00:06:26] - The kinds of goals his work addresses and the ones it doesn’t</p> <p>[00:08:46] - Almost no prerequisite to any major invention was invented with that major invention in mind</p> <p>[00:14:04] - <a href="https://nbenko1.github.io/#/">Picbreeder</a></p> <p>[00:17:21] - How looking for specific results often makes arriving at them a longer process</p> <p>[00:24:00] - The importance of the individual in a web of invention and disruption</p> <p>[00:28:30] - How generations progressed in Picbreeder when consensus mechanisms were inserted into the process </p> <p>[00:31:24] - Examples of stepping stones that were invented that became something even greater</p> <p>[00:36:02] - What his research means for how we should conduct ourselves writ large</p> <p>[00:44:17] - Thoughts on necessity being the mother of all invention</p> <p>[00:50:08] - The ways that society is arranged is psychologically toxic</p> <p>[00:55:14] - The role that constraints play in creative output and outcomes in general; Brett Victor - <a href="http://worrydream.com/#!/InventingOnPrinciple">Inventing on Principle</a></p> <p>[01:01:10] - What the constraints are that he sets for himself in AI development</p> <p>[01:04:44] - To know what’s new you need to know what’s not new</p> <p>[01:06:47] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him</p> <p>[01:08:28] - How he would allocate resources to create more innovation in the world</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/100f3e2bd3d4476e820637c96638cd75/">Kenneth Stanley - Greatness Without Goals - [Invest Like the Best, EP.283]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-06-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/100f3e2bd3d4476e820637c96638cd75/&notes=Kenneth Stanley - Greatness Without Goals - [Invest Like the Best, EP.283]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is <a href="https://twitter.com/kenneth0stanley?lang=en">Ken Stanley</a>. Ken is a Professor in Computer Science and a pioneer in the field of neuroevolution. He is also the co-author of a book called, Why Greatness Cannot Be Planned, which details a provocative idea that setting big, audacious goals can reduce the odds of achieving something great. We discuss that revelation in detail and how to apply it in our day-to-day lives. Please enjoy this great discussion with Ken Stanley.</p> <p> </p> <p>For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes/26647719/stanley-growth-without-goals"> here</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.tegus.com/trial/patrick">Tegus</a>. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting <a href="https://www.tegus.com/trial/patrick">tegus.co/patrick</a>. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>Today's episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.brex.com/?partnerId=best">Brex</a>, the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at <a href="https://www.brex.com/?partnerId=best">brex.com/best</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>-----</p> <p> </p> <p>Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes">joincolossus.com/episodes</a>. </p> <p> </p> <p>Past guests include <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/64592621/lutke-building-a-modern-business?tab=transcript"> Tobi Lutke</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/60313963/krieger-how-to-build-a-great-product?tab=transcript"> Kevin Systrom</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/60313963/krieger-how-to-build-a-great-product?tab=transcript"> Mike Krieger</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/34646260/collison-growing-the-internet-economy?tab=transcript"> John Collison</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/15230717/cole-how-to-operate-lessons-in-brand-distribution-and-leadership?tab=transcript"> Kat Cole</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/58516750/andreessen-making-the-future?tab=blocks"> Marc Andreessen</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/69430337/ball-the-future-of-media-movies-the-metaverse-and-more?tab=transcript"> Matthew Ball</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/12224182/gurley-all-things-business-and-investing?tab=transcript"> Bill Gurley</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/99792081/hariharan-lessons-in-growth-investing?tab=transcript"> Anu Hariharan</a>, <a href="https://joincolossus.com/episodes/91241527/thompson-platforms-ecosystems-and-aggregators?tab=transcript"> Ben Thompson</a>, and many more.</p> <p> </p> <p>Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/newsletter">here</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>Follow us on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinColossus">@JoinColossus</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>[00:02:36] - [First question] - The best way to change the world is to stop trying to change it</p> <p>[00:06:26] - The kinds of goals his work addresses and the ones it doesn’t</p> <p>[00:08:46] - Almost no prerequisite to any major invention was invented with that major invention in mind</p> <p>[00:14:04] - <a href="https://nbenko1.github.io/#/">Picbreeder</a></p> <p>[00:17:21] - How looking for specific results often makes arriving at them a longer process</p> <p>[00:24:00] - The importance of the individual in a web of invention and disruption</p> <p>[00:28:30] - How generations progressed in Picbreeder when consensus mechanisms were inserted into the process </p> <p>[00:31:24] - Examples of stepping stones that were invented that became something even greater</p> <p>[00:36:02] - What his research means for how we should conduct ourselves writ large</p> <p>[00:44:17] - Thoughts on necessity being the mother of all invention</p> <p>[00:50:08] - The ways that society is arranged is psychologically toxic</p> <p>[00:55:14] - The role that constraints play in creative output and outcomes in general; Brett Victor - <a href="http://worrydream.com/#!/InventingOnPrinciple">Inventing on Principle</a></p> <p>[01:01:10] - What the constraints are that he sets for himself in AI development</p> <p>[01:04:44] - To know what’s new you need to know what’s not new</p> <p>[01:06:47] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him</p> <p>[01:08:28] - How he would allocate resources to create more innovation in the world</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/what-could-go-right-the-progress-network-Vk5vcMKb2TF/">What Could Go Right?</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bc2c0fdd52bc4afab8054043cee5fef1/">The Information Horizon with Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bc2c0fdd52bc4afab8054043cee5fef1/&notes=The Information Horizon with Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/what-could-go-right-the-progress-network-STLkg45lPJB-Vk5vcMKb2TF.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>What's coming next? We sit down with a modern renaissance man, economist, and podcaster Tyler Cowen to participate in what he calls his greatest pleasure: information extraction. We pick his brain on everything from mRNA to housing bubbles to literature. "The world," he tells us, "has never been more optimistic than it is now."</p><p>What Could Go Right? is produced by <a href="https://theprogressnetwork.org/">The Progress Network</a> and <a href="https://thepodglomerate.com/shows/what-could-go-right/">The Podglomerate</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Progress Network with Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/what-could-go-right-the-progress-network-Vk5vcMKb2TF/">What Could Go Right?</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bc2c0fdd52bc4afab8054043cee5fef1/">The Information Horizon with Tyler Cowen</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bc2c0fdd52bc4afab8054043cee5fef1/&notes=The Information Horizon with Tyler Cowen">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/what-could-go-right-the-progress-network-STLkg45lPJB-Vk5vcMKb2TF.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>What's coming next? We sit down with a modern renaissance man, economist, and podcaster Tyler Cowen to participate in what he calls his greatest pleasure: information extraction. We pick his brain on everything from mRNA to housing bubbles to literature. "The world," he tells us, "has never been more optimistic than it is now."</p><p>What Could Go Right? is produced by <a href="https://theprogressnetwork.org/">The Progress Network</a> and <a href="https://thepodglomerate.com/shows/what-could-go-right/">The Podglomerate</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Progress Network with Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: What Could Go Right?
Episode: The Information Horizon with Tyler Cowen
Pub date: 2022-04-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/bc2c0fdd52bc4afab8054043cee5fef1/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Progress Network with Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:45:09 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>The Progress Network with Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>What Could Go Right?</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:02:39</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>The Progress Network with Zachary Karabell and Emma Varvaloucas</itunes:author>
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            <title>Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-yD8qltH0UNz/">The Daily Objective</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c/">Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c/&notes=Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-gj7IlhBGvbP-yD8qltH0UNz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://aynrandcentre.co.uk/membership">Support the show</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Objectivist Media Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-yD8qltH0UNz/">The Daily Objective</a> (LS 35 &middot; TOP 3% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c/">Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-03-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c/&notes=Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-daily-objective-objectivist-media-network-gj7IlhBGvbP-yD8qltH0UNz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://aynrandcentre.co.uk/membership">Support the show</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Objectivist Media Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Daily Objective
Episode: Nikos interviews Matt Bateman - TDO 455 - Nikos Sotirakopoulos
Pub date: 2022-03-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/07b08546302548609475e70fd3072d5c/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Objectivist Media Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:53:23 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Objectivist Media Network</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Daily Objective</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:50:07</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Objectivist Media Network</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/teachers-lounge-chalkboard-review-b_we2IudPfT/">Teacher's Lounge</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492/">Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492/&notes=Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/teachers-lounge-9q5EkQ2nY43-b_we2IudPfT.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/mbateman">Matt Bateman</a> from <a href="https://twitter.com/to_higherground">Higher Ground Education</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/montessorium">Montessorium</a> joins Tony Kinnett this week to dig into Montessori education, the differentiation as kids age, and why vocational training and apprenticeship is essential for the cultural needs of our students and children. <br />
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For the full video interview, other great articles, op-eds, and education content, head over to <a href="https://www.thechalkboardreview.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.TheChalkboardReview.com</a>!</p>
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<p>Chalkboard Review, 2021.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Chalkboard Review, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/teachers-lounge-chalkboard-review-b_we2IudPfT/">Teacher's Lounge</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492/">Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-12-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492/&notes=Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/teachers-lounge-9q5EkQ2nY43-b_we2IudPfT.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/mbateman">Matt Bateman</a> from <a href="https://twitter.com/to_higherground">Higher Ground Education</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/montessorium">Montessorium</a> joins Tony Kinnett this week to dig into Montessori education, the differentiation as kids age, and why vocational training and apprenticeship is essential for the cultural needs of our students and children. <br />
<br />
For the full video interview, other great articles, op-eds, and education content, head over to <a href="https://www.thechalkboardreview.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.TheChalkboardReview.com</a>!</p>
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<p>Chalkboard Review, 2021.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Chalkboard Review, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Teacher's Lounge
Episode: Matt Bateman: Vocational Training for the Soul
Pub date: 2021-12-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ddc2c2e6207a41c4b687397d7ede2492/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Chalkboard Review, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:05:38 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Chalkboard Review</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Teacher&#x27;s Lounge</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:35:42</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Chalkboard Review</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8/">Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-01-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8/&notes=Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer join Matt Bateman to discuss the value of adolescents "doing something real" during their middle and high school years. 

Staci Hill is the head of academics at Polygence, an online academy that supports students with independent research and passion projects alongside expert mentors. Dr. Laura Mazer is the Vice President of Academic Programs at Higher Ground Education, which operates schools for students from birth through adolescence, provides training to educators, and more.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8/">Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-01-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8/&notes=Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer join Matt Bateman to discuss the value of adolescents "doing something real" during their middle and high school years. 

Staci Hill is the head of academics at Polygence, an online academy that supports students with independent research and passion projects alongside expert mentors. Dr. Laura Mazer is the Vice President of Academic Programs at Higher Ground Education, which operates schools for students from birth through adolescence, provides training to educators, and more.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Philosophy of Education
Episode: Doing Real Things: Opportunities in High School: A conversation with Staci Hill and Dr. Laura Mazer
Pub date: 2022-01-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/168b5da4a3e749e99e07bbe6160f91f8/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:12:45 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Philosophy of Education</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:50:29</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef/">Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef/&notes=Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week, Byran Caplan, author of The Case Against Education and Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids, joins us to discuss the causes of bloat in education, and why we might be better off with less of it.  

You can find Bryan on Twitter (@bryan_caplan) or check out his website at http://www.bcaplan.com/.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef/">Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-15<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef/&notes=Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>This week, Byran Caplan, author of The Case Against Education and Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids, joins us to discuss the causes of bloat in education, and why we might be better off with less of it.  

You can find Bryan on Twitter (@bryan_caplan) or check out his website at http://www.bcaplan.com/.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Philosophy of Education
Episode: Should There Be Less Education? A conversation with Bryan Caplan
Pub date: 2022-02-15

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/39f6a78f72494d3ba9b32cffce8052ef/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Philosophy of Education</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:53:55</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</itunes:author>
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            <title>The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533/">The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533/&notes=The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What will education look like in a century? Piecemeal and unbundled, or integrated? Eaten by tech—and how, if so? Where is pedagogy headed? EC? K12? College? This week, we are joined by Yusuf Ahmad, researcher, developer, and member of the Lifelong Kindergarten group, to discuss the future of education.

You can learn more about Yusuf's wide-ranging and innovative work at https://www.yusufsa.com/, or check out his blog, Samba, at https://samba.substack.com/.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-OKTfiYCwX9n/">Philosophy of Education</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533/">The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2022-02-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533/&notes=The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/philosophy-of-education-ray-girn-matt-bateman-AgXiUsGJCFt-OKTfiYCwX9n.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What will education look like in a century? Piecemeal and unbundled, or integrated? Eaten by tech—and how, if so? Where is pedagogy headed? EC? K12? College? This week, we are joined by Yusuf Ahmad, researcher, developer, and member of the Lifelong Kindergarten group, to discuss the future of education.

You can learn more about Yusuf's wide-ranging and innovative work at https://www.yusufsa.com/, or check out his blog, Samba, at https://samba.substack.com/.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Philosophy of Education
Episode: The Future of Education: A conversation with Yusuf Ahmad
Pub date: 2022-02-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/6f4d48c381e5478f942a60b3d04e9533/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ray Girn, Matt Bateman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:12:26 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Ray Girn, Matt Bateman</itunes:author>
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            <title>Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk &amp; Maksim Stepanenko</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-end-by-odf-on-deck-vHk4K3sq6YL/">The Deep End by ODF</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/23439afce11a4749ad443cfc70a20639/">Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-11-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/23439afce11a4749ad443cfc70a20639/&notes=Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-end-cO_rYbByzax-vHk4K3sq6YL.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Primer cofounders Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko join the Deep End after meeting through On Deck. They are currently building a community for curious and ambitious kids to find and explore their interests together.</p><p>Education is deeply personal, and so our conversation begins on a personal note, with a discussion of Ryan's background growing up homeschooled & Maksim's experience with highly structured curriculum back home in Kyrgyzstan.</p><p>Both of them look back on their own learning experience and lament an education system designed with the  assumption that all children should move at the same pace. Kids' talents & interests vary wildly. Ryan and Maksim came to the realization  with Primer that they could build educational treadmills for kids to run as fast or as slow as they would like towards their particular interests. </p><p>Our conversation centers on how to augment the education system to create more Michaelangelos and Albert Einsteins. How might we enable self-guided homeschooling without total involvement from parents? How can we leverage the dynamics of popularity to make learning cool?</p><p>The kids that Ryan & Maksim are working with so far are incredible. They have a huge sense of ownership of their online community and are naturally creating governance protocols that limit toxicity and bullying. They're making friends and collaborating on projects, all while learning at a clip that outpaces traditional K-12 school.</p><p>For full show notes, links, RSVPs to live podcast recordings and more, visit thedeepend.substack.com</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from On Deck, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-end-by-odf-on-deck-vHk4K3sq6YL/">The Deep End by ODF</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/23439afce11a4749ad443cfc70a20639/">Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-11-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/23439afce11a4749ad443cfc70a20639/&notes=Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-deep-end-cO_rYbByzax-vHk4K3sq6YL.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Primer cofounders Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko join the Deep End after meeting through On Deck. They are currently building a community for curious and ambitious kids to find and explore their interests together.</p><p>Education is deeply personal, and so our conversation begins on a personal note, with a discussion of Ryan's background growing up homeschooled & Maksim's experience with highly structured curriculum back home in Kyrgyzstan.</p><p>Both of them look back on their own learning experience and lament an education system designed with the  assumption that all children should move at the same pace. Kids' talents & interests vary wildly. Ryan and Maksim came to the realization  with Primer that they could build educational treadmills for kids to run as fast or as slow as they would like towards their particular interests. </p><p>Our conversation centers on how to augment the education system to create more Michaelangelos and Albert Einsteins. How might we enable self-guided homeschooling without total involvement from parents? How can we leverage the dynamics of popularity to make learning cool?</p><p>The kids that Ryan & Maksim are working with so far are incredible. They have a huge sense of ownership of their online community and are naturally creating governance protocols that limit toxicity and bullying. They're making friends and collaborating on projects, all while learning at a clip that outpaces traditional K-12 school.</p><p>For full show notes, links, RSVPs to live podcast recordings and more, visit thedeepend.substack.com</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from On Deck, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Deep End by ODF
Episode: Building Education Treadmills with Ryan Delk & Maksim Stepanenko
Pub date: 2021-11-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/23439afce11a4749ad443cfc70a20639/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from On Deck, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:47:18 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>On Deck</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Deep End by ODF</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:56:25</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>On Deck</itunes:author>
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            <title>#124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chiwi-journal-camellia-yang-2rVgQPxZ_Ju/">Chiwi Journal</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad/">#124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad/&notes=#124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chiwi-journal-camellia-yang-fuw1g2VxDNE-2rVgQPxZ_Ju.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is <a href="https://zach.dev/">Zach Caceres</a>. He is an experienced software engineer and focuses on modern web technologies. He is interested in education and ##StartupCities and initiated a couple of cool projects in the relevant areas.</p>
<p><strong>In today's episode, we discussed:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Zach's unschooling experiences at a young age and his way of learning.</li>
 <li>Why choose to go back to university later on?</li>
 <li>Hilarious stories on the arbitrary bureaucracy of our modern education</li>
 <li>What's the essence of education?</li>
  <li>Case study of innovating education from within Guatemala's top university</li>
  <li>Sneak peek of The Intuitive Programmer project, learning how to learn</li>
  <li>What's community technology? What's Startup City?</li>
  <li>Stories on informal entrepreneurs and almost dead experience in Africa and South America.</li>
  <li>How does technology power up the city building and enhance people's living conditions?</li>
  <li>Brief introduction of Benjamin Blooms's two sigma problems</li>
  <li>What's 'The Great Fact' raised by Deirdre McCloskey</li>
  <li>What get you most excited about the future?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Books and links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ol>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/zachcaceres">Zach</a>'s super cool <a href="https://zach.dev/">website</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/books/mindshift/">Mindshift</a>: Break Through Obstacles to Learning and Discover Your Hidden Potential</li>
  <li><a href="https://zach.dev/blog/mpc">Innovating Education from Within Guatemala's Top University</a></li>
  <li>Professor <a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/">Barbara Oakley</a></li>
  <li>Polymath <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Polanyi">Michael Polanyi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.classcentral.com/report/intuitive-programmer-guest-talk/">The Intuitive Programmer: Learning How to Learn Programming</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mooc.org/">Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs)</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96fE1E-rf8">Learning how to learn | Barbara Oakley | TEDxOaklandUniversity</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brainscape.com/academy/focused-vs-diffuse-thinking-learning/">Focused vs. diffuse thinking: which is better for learning?</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/books/pathological-altruism/">Pathological Altruism</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://1729.com/miami">The Start Of Startup Cities</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://culdesac.com/">Culdesac Tempe: The first car-free neighborhood built from scratch in the US!</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.citydao.io/">CityDAO</a>: Blockchain Cities IRL</li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oecd.org/employment/leed/Background-Paper-PB-Informal-Entrepreneurship-final.pdf">Informal Entrepreneurship</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stealth-Nations-Global-Informal-Economy/dp/0307279987">Stealth of Nations by Robert Neuwirth</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/">City of God movie</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/">Amazing video shows 10-story high-rise built in a day</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/mrna-vaccines-cure-cancer-biontech/620383/">Maybe the Coronavirus Was Lower-Hanging Fruit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://web.mit.edu/5.95/www/readings/bloom-two-sigma.pdf">Benjamin Blooms's two sigma problems</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/">Khan Academy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.duolingo.com/">Duolingo</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.adastra.world/">Ad Astra Academy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.deirdremccloskey.com/articles/bd/greatfact.php">The Great Fact-</a> the humongous increase in humans' standard of living that began about 200 years ago.</li>
</ol><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Camellia Yang, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chiwi-journal-camellia-yang-2rVgQPxZ_Ju/">Chiwi Journal</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad/">#124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad/&notes=#124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chiwi-journal-camellia-yang-fuw1g2VxDNE-2rVgQPxZ_Ju.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is <a href="https://zach.dev/">Zach Caceres</a>. He is an experienced software engineer and focuses on modern web technologies. He is interested in education and ##StartupCities and initiated a couple of cool projects in the relevant areas.</p>
<p><strong>In today's episode, we discussed:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Zach's unschooling experiences at a young age and his way of learning.</li>
 <li>Why choose to go back to university later on?</li>
 <li>Hilarious stories on the arbitrary bureaucracy of our modern education</li>
 <li>What's the essence of education?</li>
  <li>Case study of innovating education from within Guatemala's top university</li>
  <li>Sneak peek of The Intuitive Programmer project, learning how to learn</li>
  <li>What's community technology? What's Startup City?</li>
  <li>Stories on informal entrepreneurs and almost dead experience in Africa and South America.</li>
  <li>How does technology power up the city building and enhance people's living conditions?</li>
  <li>Brief introduction of Benjamin Blooms's two sigma problems</li>
  <li>What's 'The Great Fact' raised by Deirdre McCloskey</li>
  <li>What get you most excited about the future?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Books and links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ol>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/zachcaceres">Zach</a>'s super cool <a href="https://zach.dev/">website</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/books/mindshift/">Mindshift</a>: Break Through Obstacles to Learning and Discover Your Hidden Potential</li>
  <li><a href="https://zach.dev/blog/mpc">Innovating Education from Within Guatemala's Top University</a></li>
  <li>Professor <a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/">Barbara Oakley</a></li>
  <li>Polymath <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Polanyi">Michael Polanyi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.classcentral.com/report/intuitive-programmer-guest-talk/">The Intuitive Programmer: Learning How to Learn Programming</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mooc.org/">Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs)</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96fE1E-rf8">Learning how to learn | Barbara Oakley | TEDxOaklandUniversity</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brainscape.com/academy/focused-vs-diffuse-thinking-learning/">Focused vs. diffuse thinking: which is better for learning?</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barbaraoakley.com/books/pathological-altruism/">Pathological Altruism</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://1729.com/miami">The Start Of Startup Cities</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://culdesac.com/">Culdesac Tempe: The first car-free neighborhood built from scratch in the US!</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.citydao.io/">CityDAO</a>: Blockchain Cities IRL</li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oecd.org/employment/leed/Background-Paper-PB-Informal-Entrepreneurship-final.pdf">Informal Entrepreneurship</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stealth-Nations-Global-Informal-Economy/dp/0307279987">Stealth of Nations by Robert Neuwirth</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/">City of God movie</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/">Amazing video shows 10-story high-rise built in a day</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/mrna-vaccines-cure-cancer-biontech/620383/">Maybe the Coronavirus Was Lower-Hanging Fruit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://web.mit.edu/5.95/www/readings/bloom-two-sigma.pdf">Benjamin Blooms's two sigma problems</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/">Khan Academy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.duolingo.com/">Duolingo</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.adastra.world/">Ad Astra Academy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.deirdremccloskey.com/articles/bd/greatfact.php">The Great Fact-</a> the humongous increase in humans' standard of living that began about 200 years ago.</li>
</ol><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Camellia Yang, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Chiwi Journal
Episode: #124: Unschooling, Innovating Education, Intuitive Learning and Startup Cities with Zach Caceres
Pub date: 2021-10-31

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e2378e4a37348598b00a8d0f2eac5ad/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Camellia Yang, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 07:46:43 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Camellia Yang</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:56:52</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Camellia Yang</itunes:author>
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            <title>#540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c9c75d87abf04119b36b4e389ca8c820/">#540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c9c75d87abf04119b36b4e389ca8c820/&notes=#540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. | Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.eightsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep’s Pod Pro Cover</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://headspace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Headspace</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;easy-to-use app&nbsp;with guided meditations.&nbsp;More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong>Noah Feldman</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/NoahRFeldman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@NoahRFeldman</a>) is a Harvard professor, ethical philosopher and advisor, public intellectual, religious scholar and historian, and author of 10 books, including his latest,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Constitution-Lincoln-Slavery-Refounding/dp/0374116644/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Broken Constitution: Lincoln, Slavery, and the Refounding of America</em></strong></a>.</p><p>Noah is the founder of Ethical Compass, which helps clients like Facebook and eBay improve ethical decision-making by creating and implementing new governance solutions. Noah conceived and designed the Facebook&nbsp;<a href="https://oversightboard.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oversight Board</a>&nbsp;and continues to advise Facebook on ethics and governance issues.</p><p>Feldman is host of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/show/deep-background/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Deep Background</em></a>&nbsp;podcast, a policy and public affairs columnist for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/AFZ_b1F72Xw/noah-feldman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bloomberg Opinion</a>, and a former contributing writer for&nbsp;<em>The New York Times</em>. He served as senior constitutional advisor to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and subsequently advised members of the Iraqi Governing Council on the drafting of Iraq’s interim constitution.</p><p>He earned his A.B. summa cum laude from Harvard, finishing first in his class. Selected as a Rhodes Scholar, he earned a DPhil from Oxford University, writing his dissertation on Aristotle’s Ethics. He received his JD from Yale Law School and clerked for Justice David Souter of the US Supreme Court.</p><p>He is the author of 10 books, including&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Divided-God-Americas-Church-State-Problem/dp/0374530386/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Divided by God: America’s Church-State Problem — and What We Should Do About It</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Feldman-Noah-Princeton-University-Hardcover/dp/B00E2RGWOA/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>What We Owe Iraq: War and the Ethics of Nation Building</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cool-War-United-States-Competition/dp/081298255X/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Cool War: The United States, China, and the Future of Global Competition</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Scorpions-Battles-Triumphs-Supreme-Justices/dp/0446699284/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Scorpions: The Battles and Triumphs of FDR’s Great Supreme Court Justices</em></a>; and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Three-Lives-James-Madison-President/dp/1250267005/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President</em></a>.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep</strong></a><strong>!</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep’s&nbsp;<strong>Pod Pro Cover</strong></a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<strong>easiest and fastest way to sleep at the perfect temperature</strong>. 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c9c75d87abf04119b36b4e389ca8c820/">#540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c9c75d87abf04119b36b4e389ca8c820/&notes=#540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. | Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.eightsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep’s Pod Pro Cover</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://headspace.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Headspace</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;easy-to-use app&nbsp;with guided meditations.&nbsp;More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong>Noah Feldman</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/NoahRFeldman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@NoahRFeldman</a>) is a Harvard professor, ethical philosopher and advisor, public intellectual, religious scholar and historian, and author of 10 books, including his latest,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Constitution-Lincoln-Slavery-Refounding/dp/0374116644/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Broken Constitution: Lincoln, Slavery, and the Refounding of America</em></strong></a>.</p><p>Noah is the founder of Ethical Compass, which helps clients like Facebook and eBay improve ethical decision-making by creating and implementing new governance solutions. Noah conceived and designed the Facebook&nbsp;<a href="https://oversightboard.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oversight Board</a>&nbsp;and continues to advise Facebook on ethics and governance issues.</p><p>Feldman is host of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/show/deep-background/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Deep Background</em></a>&nbsp;podcast, a policy and public affairs columnist for&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/AFZ_b1F72Xw/noah-feldman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bloomberg Opinion</a>, and a former contributing writer for&nbsp;<em>The New York Times</em>. He served as senior constitutional advisor to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and subsequently advised members of the Iraqi Governing Council on the drafting of Iraq’s interim constitution.</p><p>He earned his A.B. summa cum laude from Harvard, finishing first in his class. 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He received his JD from Yale Law School and clerked for Justice David Souter of the US Supreme Court.</p><p>He is the author of 10 books, including&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Divided-God-Americas-Church-State-Problem/dp/0374530386/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Divided by God: America’s Church-State Problem — and What We Should Do About It</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Feldman-Noah-Princeton-University-Hardcover/dp/B00E2RGWOA/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>What We Owe Iraq: War and the Ethics of Nation Building</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cool-War-United-States-Competition/dp/081298255X/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Cool War: The United States, China, and the Future of Global Competition</em></a>;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Scorpions-Battles-Triumphs-Supreme-Justices/dp/0446699284/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Scorpions: The Battles and Triumphs of FDR’s Great Supreme Court Justices</em></a>; and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Three-Lives-James-Madison-President/dp/1250267005/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Three Lives of James Madison: Genius, Partisan, President</em></a>.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Eight Sleep</strong></a><strong>!</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://eightsleep.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eight Sleep’s&nbsp;<strong>Pod Pro Cover</strong></a>&nbsp;is the&nbsp;<strong>easiest and fastest way to sleep at the perfect temperature</strong>. 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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #540: Harvard Polymath Noah Feldman — Deep Focus for Hyper-Productivity, Learning 10+ Languages, Predicting the Future with History, the Possibilities (and Limitations) of DAOs, Lessons from the Iraq Invasion, Designing the Supreme Court of Facebook, the Virtue of Scholarship, and the Wild Life of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
Pub date: 2021-10-21

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            <title>#541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be332e26795640e6aa85b6e2163170cc/">#541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be332e26795640e6aa85b6e2163170cc/&notes=#541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life | Brought to you by </strong><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong> shipping software</strong>,<strong> </strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium meats delivered to your door</strong>, <strong>and </strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pique Tea</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium tea crystals (pu’er, etc.). More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong>Eric Schmidt</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/ericschmidt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ericschmidt</a>) is a technologist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. He joined Google in 2001, helping the company grow from a Silicon Valley startup to a global technological leader. He served as chief executive officer and chairman from 2001 to 2011 and as executive chairman and technical advisor thereafter. Under his leadership, Google dramatically scaled its infrastructure and diversified its product offerings while maintaining a culture of innovation. In 2017, he co-founded&nbsp;<a href="http://www.schmidtfutures.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Schmidt Futures</a>, a philanthropic initiative that bets early on exceptional people making the world better.</p><p>He serves as chair of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.broadinstitute.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broad Institute</a>&nbsp;and formerly served as chair of the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence. He is the host of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reimaginepod.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reimagine with Eric Schmidt</em></a>, a podcast exploring how society can build a brighter future after the COVID-19 pandemic. Eric has a new book out titled&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Age-I-Our-Human-Future/dp/0316273805/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Age of AI: And Our Human Future</em></strong></a>, which he coauthored with Henry A. Kissinger and Daniel Huttenlocher.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ButcherBox</a>&nbsp;makes it easy for you to get high-quality, humanely raised meat that you can trust. They deliver delicious, 100% grass-fed, grass-finished beef; free-range organic chicken; heritage-breed pork; and wild-caught seafood directly to your door.</p><p><strong>Skip the lines for your Thanksgiving turkey. This holiday,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;is proud to give new members a free turkey.&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Go to ButcherBox.com/Tim to receive a free 10–14 pound turkey in your first box</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pique Tea</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong>I first learned about Pique through my friends Dr. Peter Attia and Kevin Rose, and now&nbsp;<a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pique</a>’s fermented pu’er tea crystals have become my daily go-to.&nbsp;I often kickstart my mornings with their Pu’er Green Tea and Pu’er Black Tea, and I alternate between the two. Their crystals are cold-extracted, using only wild-harvested leaves from 250-year-old tea trees. Plus, they triple toxin screen for heavy metals, pesticides, and toxic mold—contaminants commonly found in tea. I also use the crystals for iced tea, which saves a ton of time and hassle.</p><p><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pique</a>&nbsp;is offering&nbsp;<a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>15% off of their pu’er teas</strong></a>, exclusively to my listeners.&nbsp;<strong>Simply visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>PiqueTea.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>, and the discount will be automatically applied.</strong>&nbsp;They also offer a 30-day satisfaction guarantee, so your purchase is completely risk free. Just go to&nbsp;<a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PiqueTea.com/Tim</a>&nbsp;to learn more.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://www.shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong>.</strong>&nbsp;Do you sell stuff online? Then you know what a pain the shipping process is.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ShipStation</a>&nbsp;was created to make your life easier. 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/be332e26795640e6aa85b6e2163170cc/">#541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/be332e26795640e6aa85b6e2163170cc/&notes=#541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life | Brought to you by </strong><a href="https://shipstation.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ShipStation</strong></a><strong> shipping software</strong>,<strong> </strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium meats delivered to your door</strong>, <strong>and </strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pique Tea</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium tea crystals (pu’er, etc.). More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong>Eric Schmidt</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/ericschmidt" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ericschmidt</a>) is a technologist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. He joined Google in 2001, helping the company grow from a Silicon Valley startup to a global technological leader. He served as chief executive officer and chairman from 2001 to 2011 and as executive chairman and technical advisor thereafter. Under his leadership, Google dramatically scaled its infrastructure and diversified its product offerings while maintaining a culture of innovation. In 2017, he co-founded&nbsp;<a href="http://www.schmidtfutures.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Schmidt Futures</a>, a philanthropic initiative that bets early on exceptional people making the world better.</p><p>He serves as chair of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.broadinstitute.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Broad Institute</a>&nbsp;and formerly served as chair of the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence. He is the host of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reimaginepod.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Reimagine with Eric Schmidt</em></a>, a podcast exploring how society can build a brighter future after the COVID-19 pandemic. Eric has a new book out titled&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Age-I-Our-Human-Future/dp/0316273805/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Age of AI: And Our Human Future</em></strong></a>, which he coauthored with Henry A. Kissinger and Daniel Huttenlocher.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ButcherBox</a>&nbsp;makes it easy for you to get high-quality, humanely raised meat that you can trust. They deliver delicious, 100% grass-fed, grass-finished beef; free-range organic chicken; heritage-breed pork; and wild-caught seafood directly to your door.</p><p><strong>Skip the lines for your Thanksgiving turkey. This holiday,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ButcherBox</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;is proud to give new members a free turkey.&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://butcherbox.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Go to ButcherBox.com/Tim to receive a free 10–14 pound turkey in your first box</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Pique Tea</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong>I first learned about Pique through my friends Dr. Peter Attia and Kevin Rose, and now&nbsp;<a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pique</a>’s fermented pu’er tea crystals have become my daily go-to.&nbsp;I often kickstart my mornings with their Pu’er Green Tea and Pu’er Black Tea, and I alternate between the two. Their crystals are cold-extracted, using only wild-harvested leaves from 250-year-old tea trees. Plus, they triple toxin screen for heavy metals, pesticides, and toxic mold—contaminants commonly found in tea. I also use the crystals for iced tea, which saves a ton of time and hassle.</p><p><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pique</a>&nbsp;is offering&nbsp;<a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>15% off of their pu’er teas</strong></a>, exclusively to my listeners.&nbsp;<strong>Simply visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://piquetea.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>PiqueTea.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>, and the discount will be automatically applied.</strong>&nbsp;They also offer a 30-day satisfaction guarantee, so your purchase is completely risk free. 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Episode: #541: Eric Schmidt — The Promises and Perils of AI, the Future of Warfare, Profound Revolutions on the Horizon, and Exploring the Meaning of Life
Pub date: 2021-10-26

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            <title>#542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a824e2e8b74f4a14bbd3b45811b2a015/">#542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a824e2e8b74f4a14bbd3b45811b2a015/&notes=#542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;endurance products powered by SuperStarch®,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Theragun</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;percussive muscle therapy devices, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;smart home gym</strong>.</p><p><strong>Chris Dixon</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/cdixon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cdixon</a>) is a general partner at&nbsp;<a href="https://a16z.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andreessen Horowitz</a>, where for the past six years he has been an active seed and venture-stage investor.</p><p>Previously, Chris co-founded and served as the CEO of two startups, SiteAdvisor and Hunch. SiteAdvisor was an internet security company that warned web users of security threats. The company was acquired by McAfee in 2006. Hunch was a recommendation technology company that was acquired by eBay in 2011.</p><p>Chris has been a prolific seed investor, co-founding Founder Collective, a seed venture fund, and making a number of personal angel investments in various technology companies. Chris started programming as a kid and was a professional programmer after college at the high-speed options trading firm Arbitrade. He has a BA and MA in philosophy from Columbia and an MBA from Harvard.</p><p>He has written about his theories and experiences as an entrepreneur and investor&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@cdixon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Medium</a>&nbsp;and before that at&nbsp;<a href="http://cdixon.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cdixon.org</a>. His a16z Podcast appearances can be found&nbsp;<a href="https://a16z.com/author/chris-dixon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p><strong>Naval Ravikant</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder and chairman of&nbsp;<a href="https://angel.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AngelList</a>. He is an angel investor and has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. You can subscribe to&nbsp;<a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Naval</em></a>, his podcast on wealth and happiness, on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7qZAVw03FuurfYnWIWwkHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1454097755/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also find his blog at&nbsp;<a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nav.al</a>.</p><p>For more Naval-plus-Tim, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my wildly popular interview with him from 2015</a>—which was nominated for “Podcast of the Year”—at&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/naval</a>. We also had a second long-form conversation in 2020, and you can find that&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/14/naval/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. His most recent appearance was helping me&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin here</a>.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN</strong></a><strong>.&nbsp;</strong>I was introduced to&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;and its unique carbohydrate SuperStarch® by my good friend—and listener favorite—Dr. Peter Attia, who said there is no carb in the world like it. I have since included it in my routine, using UCAN’s powders to power my workouts, and the bars make great snacks. Extensive scientific research and clinical trials have shown that SuperStarch provides&nbsp;<strong>a sustained release of energy to the body without spiking blood sugar.</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;is the ideal way to source energy from a carbohydrate without the negatives associated with fast carbs, especially sugar.&nbsp;You avoid fatigue, hunger cravings, and loss of focus.</p><p>Whether you’re an athlete working on managing your fitness or you need healthy, efficient calories to get you through your day,&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;is an elegant energy solution.&nbsp;<strong>My listeners can save 30% on their first UCAN order by going to&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN.co/Tim</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong>Tonal is the world’s most intelligent home gym and personal trainer. It is precision engineered and designed to be the most advanced strength studio on the market today.&nbsp;<a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tonal</a>&nbsp;uses breakthrough technology—like adaptive digital weights and AI learning—together with the best experts in resistance training so you get stronger, faster. Every program is personalized to your body using AI, and smart features check your form in real time, just like a personal trainer.</p><p><strong>Try&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>, the world’s smartest home gym, for 30 days in your home, and if you don’t love it, you can return it for a full refund. Visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal.com</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;for $100 off their smart accessories when you use promo code TIM100 at checkout.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Theragun</strong></a><strong>!</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theragun</a>&nbsp;is my go-to solution for recovery and restoration. It’s a famous, handheld percussive therapy device that releases your deepest muscle tension. I own two Theraguns, and my girlfriend and I use them every day after workouts and before bed. The all-new&nbsp;<a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gen 4 Theragun</a>&nbsp;is easy to use and has a proprietary brushless motor that’s surprisingly quiet—about as quiet as an electric toothbrush.</p><p><strong>Go to&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Therabody.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;right now and get your Gen 4 Theragun today, starting at only $199.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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target="_blank">Doris Kearns Goodwin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamie Foxx</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew McConaughey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Crews</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yuval Noah Harari</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a824e2e8b74f4a14bbd3b45811b2a015/">#542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-10-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a824e2e8b74f4a14bbd3b45811b2a015/&notes=#542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;endurance products powered by SuperStarch®,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Theragun</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;percussive muscle therapy devices, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;smart home gym</strong>.</p><p><strong>Chris Dixon</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/cdixon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cdixon</a>) is a general partner at&nbsp;<a href="https://a16z.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andreessen Horowitz</a>, where for the past six years he has been an active seed and venture-stage investor.</p><p>Previously, Chris co-founded and served as the CEO of two startups, SiteAdvisor and Hunch. SiteAdvisor was an internet security company that warned web users of security threats. The company was acquired by McAfee in 2006. Hunch was a recommendation technology company that was acquired by eBay in 2011.</p><p>Chris has been a prolific seed investor, co-founding Founder Collective, a seed venture fund, and making a number of personal angel investments in various technology companies. Chris started programming as a kid and was a professional programmer after college at the high-speed options trading firm Arbitrade. He has a BA and MA in philosophy from Columbia and an MBA from Harvard.</p><p>He has written about his theories and experiences as an entrepreneur and investor&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@cdixon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on Medium</a>&nbsp;and before that at&nbsp;<a href="http://cdixon.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">cdixon.org</a>. His a16z Podcast appearances can be found&nbsp;<a href="https://a16z.com/author/chris-dixon/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p><strong>Naval Ravikant</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="http://twitter.com/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@naval</a>) is the co-founder and chairman of&nbsp;<a href="https://angel.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AngelList</a>. He is an angel investor and has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. You can subscribe to&nbsp;<a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Naval</em></a>, his podcast on wealth and happiness, on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7qZAVw03FuurfYnWIWwkHY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1454097755/naval" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Overcast</a>, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also find his blog at&nbsp;<a href="https://nav.al/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nav.al</a>.</p><p>For more Naval-plus-Tim, check out&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">my wildly popular interview with him from 2015</a>—which was nominated for “Podcast of the Year”—at&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">tim.blog/naval</a>. We also had a second long-form conversation in 2020, and you can find that&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/14/naval/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. His most recent appearance was helping me&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">interview Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin here</a>.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN</strong></a><strong>.&nbsp;</strong>I was introduced to&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;and its unique carbohydrate SuperStarch® by my good friend—and listener favorite—Dr. Peter Attia, who said there is no carb in the world like it. I have since included it in my routine, using UCAN’s powders to power my workouts, and the bars make great snacks. Extensive scientific research and clinical trials have shown that SuperStarch provides&nbsp;<strong>a sustained release of energy to the body without spiking blood sugar.</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;is the ideal way to source energy from a carbohydrate without the negatives associated with fast carbs, especially sugar.&nbsp;You avoid fatigue, hunger cravings, and loss of focus.</p><p>Whether you’re an athlete working on managing your fitness or you need healthy, efficient calories to get you through your day,&nbsp;<a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UCAN</a>&nbsp;is an elegant energy solution.&nbsp;<strong>My listeners can save 30% on their first UCAN order by going to&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://ucan.co/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>UCAN.co/Tim</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong>Tonal is the world’s most intelligent home gym and personal trainer. It is precision engineered and designed to be the most advanced strength studio on the market today.&nbsp;<a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tonal</a>&nbsp;uses breakthrough technology—like adaptive digital weights and AI learning—together with the best experts in resistance training so you get stronger, faster. Every program is personalized to your body using AI, and smart features check your form in real time, just like a personal trainer.</p><p><strong>Try&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal</strong></a><strong>, the world’s smartest home gym, for 30 days in your home, and if you don’t love it, you can return it for a full refund. Visit&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://tonal.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Tonal.com</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;for $100 off their smart accessories when you use promo code TIM100 at checkout.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>This episode is also brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Theragun</strong></a><strong>!</strong>&nbsp;<a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Theragun</a>&nbsp;is my go-to solution for recovery and restoration. It’s a famous, handheld percussive therapy device that releases your deepest muscle tension. I own two Theraguns, and my girlfriend and I use them every day after workouts and before bed. The all-new&nbsp;<a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gen 4 Theragun</a>&nbsp;is easy to use and has a proprietary brushless motor that’s surprisingly quiet—about as quiet as an electric toothbrush.</p><p><strong>Go to&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://therabody.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Therabody.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;right now and get your Gen 4 Theragun today, starting at only $199.</strong></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p>Past guests on&nbsp;<a href="http://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a>&nbsp;include&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jerry Seinfeld</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hugh Jackman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jane Goodall</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LeBron James</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Hart</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doris Kearns Goodwin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamie Foxx</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew McConaughey</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Esther Perel</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Terry Crews</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yuval Noah Harari</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Malcolm Gladwell</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Madeleine Albright</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Cheryl Strayed</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Collins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mary Karr,</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Popova</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sam Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Phelps</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Iger</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Edward Norton</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil Strauss</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ken Burns</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Maria Sharapova</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marc Andreessen</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil Gaiman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Neil de Grasse Tyson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jocko Willink</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Daniel Ek</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelly Slater</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Peter Attia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seth Godin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Howard Marks</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Brené Brown</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Eric Schmidt</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Lewis</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joe Gebbia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael Pollan</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/01/jordan-peterson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Jordan Peterson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/05/31/vince-vaughn/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vince Vaughn</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/04/23/brian-koppelman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brian Koppelman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/05/07/ramit-sethi/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ramit Sethi</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/18/dax-shepard/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dax Shepard</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tony Robbins</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/05/18/jim-dethmer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jim Dethmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/11/19/dan-harris/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dan Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ray Dalio</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naval Ravikant</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vitalik Buterin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Elizabeth Lesser</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amanda Palmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Katie Haun</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sir Richard Branson</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chuck Palahniuk</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Arianna Huffington</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reid Hoffman</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bill Burr</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Whitney Cummings</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Darren Aronofsky</a>, and many more.</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #542: Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs
Pub date: 2021-10-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a824e2e8b74f4a14bbd3b45811b2a015/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:55:16 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Tim Ferriss Show</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>02:31:55</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig</itunes:author>
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            <title>Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-with-auren-hoffman-auren-hoffman-SrUIsxCcDkz/">Summation with Auren Hoffman</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2/">Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-09-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2/&notes=Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-formerly-world-of-daas-summation-mlJBtw-NMfW-SrUIsxCcDkz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Spotting talent is really hard. Identifying A-players can feel impossible. Peter Thiel has one of the best interview questions for identifying talent, “What important truth do very few people agree with you on?” But Daniel Gross disagrees. Daniel believes easygoing questions like “What movies do you like to watch?” elicit more telling responses.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/danielgross">Daniel Gross</a> is the CEO of Pioneer, a reimagined version of the startup accelerator focused on identifying, motivating, and enabling the next wave of founders. Daniel previously founded Cue, which was acquired by Apple, and was a partner at Y Combinator. Daniel co-authored with Tyler Cowen the soon-to-be-released book, <em>Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World</em>. Simply put, Daniel is an expert on spotting talent.<br /><br />Auren and Daniel dive into Daniel’s favorite interview questions, how to distinguish between good and great employees, what makes a 10xer, and how to measure productivity. They also explore why the strongest leaders are energetic, enthusiastic, and funny. <br /><br />World of DaaS is brought to you by SafeGraph. For more episodes, visit <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/podcasts">safegraph.com/podcasts</a><br /><br />You can find Auren Hoffman (CEO of SafeGraph) on Twitter at <a href="https://twitter.com/auren?s=20">@auren</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-with-auren-hoffman-auren-hoffman-SrUIsxCcDkz/">Summation with Auren Hoffman</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2/">Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-09-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2/&notes=Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/summation-formerly-world-of-daas-summation-mlJBtw-NMfW-SrUIsxCcDkz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Spotting talent is really hard. Identifying A-players can feel impossible. Peter Thiel has one of the best interview questions for identifying talent, “What important truth do very few people agree with you on?” But Daniel Gross disagrees. Daniel believes easygoing questions like “What movies do you like to watch?” elicit more telling responses.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/danielgross">Daniel Gross</a> is the CEO of Pioneer, a reimagined version of the startup accelerator focused on identifying, motivating, and enabling the next wave of founders. Daniel previously founded Cue, which was acquired by Apple, and was a partner at Y Combinator. Daniel co-authored with Tyler Cowen the soon-to-be-released book, <em>Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World</em>. Simply put, Daniel is an expert on spotting talent.<br /><br />Auren and Daniel dive into Daniel’s favorite interview questions, how to distinguish between good and great employees, what makes a 10xer, and how to measure productivity. They also explore why the strongest leaders are energetic, enthusiastic, and funny. <br /><br />World of DaaS is brought to you by SafeGraph. For more episodes, visit <a href="https://www.safegraph.com/podcasts">safegraph.com/podcasts</a><br /><br />You can find Auren Hoffman (CEO of SafeGraph) on Twitter at <a href="https://twitter.com/auren?s=20">@auren</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Auren Hoffman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Summation with Auren Hoffman
Episode: Daniel Gross (CEO of Pioneer): Why Energy is the Best Predictor of Talent
Pub date: 2021-09-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2c5a1caf1a7a4fd0954455e2ce470ab2/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:44:10 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Auren Hoffman</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Summation with Auren Hoffman</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:58:57</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Auren Hoffman</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/edchoice-chats-edchoice-d4Ic5RFMyY0/">EdChoice Chats</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d/">Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d/&notes=Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/edchoice-chats-edchoice-Jvb79IhTDkV-d4Ic5RFMyY0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In this episode we speak with Matt Ladner about his recent report, "Micro- Schools versus Waitlists: A Guidebook for the Innovative Arizona Educator." He tells us about the innovative school choice options available in Arizona right now.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from EdChoice, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/edchoice-chats-edchoice-d4Ic5RFMyY0/">EdChoice Chats</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d/">Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d/&notes=Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/edchoice-chats-edchoice-Jvb79IhTDkV-d4Ic5RFMyY0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In this episode we speak with Matt Ladner about his recent report, "Micro- Schools versus Waitlists: A Guidebook for the Innovative Arizona Educator." He tells us about the innovative school choice options available in Arizona right now.<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from EdChoice, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: EdChoice Chats
Episode: Big Ideas – Micro-Schools versus Waitlists
Pub date: 2021-08-24

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/972f7371414b424d96496c69c9ba910d/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 20:07:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>EdChoice</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>EdChoice Chats</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:30:29</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>EdChoice</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends &amp; Opportunities</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76/">#1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends & Opportunities</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76/&notes=#1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends & Opportunities">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>John Danner is the general partner of Dunce Capital, which makes pre-seed investments in the "future of learning and work". John has a wide range of experience in technology and education. Having started in Silicon Valley in the late eighties, then pivoting to education in the early two thousands and building three companies along the way (NetGravity, Zeal Learning &amp; Rocketship Education).</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76/">#1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends & Opportunities</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-01-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76/&notes=#1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends & Opportunities">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>John Danner is the general partner of Dunce Capital, which makes pre-seed investments in the "future of learning and work". John has a wide range of experience in technology and education. Having started in Silicon Valley in the late eighties, then pivoting to education in the early two thousands and building three companies along the way (NetGravity, Zeal Learning &amp; Rocketship Education).</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #1 John Danner - EdTech Investing, Trends & Opportunities
Pub date: 2021-01-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7f109189c9a24582a8b397cecf015f76/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:31:47 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:40:50</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#3 Kelly Smith - Microschools &amp; Putting Learners First</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a/">#3 Kelly Smith - Microschools & Putting Learners First</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a/&notes=#3 Kelly Smith - Microschools & Putting Learners First">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Kelly Smith is the founder and CEO of Prenda. Prenda helps launch in-home micro schools by providing curriculum, equipment, supplies and ongoing support.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R.</p>
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<p><br></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a/">#3 Kelly Smith - Microschools & Putting Learners First</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a/&notes=#3 Kelly Smith - Microschools & Putting Learners First">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Kelly Smith is the founder and CEO of Prenda. Prenda helps launch in-home micro schools by providing curriculum, equipment, supplies and ongoing support.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R.</p>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #3 Kelly Smith - Microschools & Putting Learners First
Pub date: 2021-02-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ef164670df674b279f7c5d2812251c4a/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:31:41 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:38:52</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling &amp; Redefining Learning</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147/">#9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling & Redefining Learning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147/&notes=#9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling & Redefining Learning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week I talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/delk">Ryan Delk</a>, co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://withprimer.com/">Primer</a>.</p>
<p>Primer is building tools for homeschooling. We talk about the misconceptions &amp; advantages of homeschooling, Ryan’s own homeschooling experience, interest &amp; community-driven learning, and much, much more.</p>
<p>Follow me on <a href="https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R">Twitter</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147/">#9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling & Redefining Learning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147/&notes=#9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling & Redefining Learning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week I talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/delk">Ryan Delk</a>, co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://withprimer.com/">Primer</a>.</p>
<p>Primer is building tools for homeschooling. We talk about the misconceptions &amp; advantages of homeschooling, Ryan’s own homeschooling experience, interest &amp; community-driven learning, and much, much more.</p>
<p>Follow me on <a href="https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R">Twitter</a>.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #9 Ryan Delk - Homeschooling & Redefining Learning
Pub date: 2021-03-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/daf582aeda7145b99226f843bbe6a147/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:31:23 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:47:48</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#12 Ana Fabrega &amp; Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, &amp; First Principles</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977/">#12 Ana Fabrega & Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, & First Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977/&notes=#12 Ana Fabrega & Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, & First Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week I have two guests from <a href="https://synthesis.is/">Synthesis</a>: co-founder and CEO, <a href="https://twitter.com/chrismanfrank">Chrisman Frank</a>, as well as Chief Evangelist, <a href="https://twitter.com/anafabrega11">Ana Fabrega</a>. Synthesis is a weekly enrichment program where students learn through "simulations".</p>
<p>Synthesis was born out of Ad Astra, a school started by Elon Musk and Josh Dahn for students of SpaceX employees.</p>
<p>We talk about the value of games in learning, why “how” you learn is more important than “what”, &amp; more.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: twitter.com/SP1NS1R</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977/">#12 Ana Fabrega & Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, & First Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977/&notes=#12 Ana Fabrega & Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, & First Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week I have two guests from <a href="https://synthesis.is/">Synthesis</a>: co-founder and CEO, <a href="https://twitter.com/chrismanfrank">Chrisman Frank</a>, as well as Chief Evangelist, <a href="https://twitter.com/anafabrega11">Ana Fabrega</a>. Synthesis is a weekly enrichment program where students learn through "simulations".</p>
<p>Synthesis was born out of Ad Astra, a school started by Elon Musk and Josh Dahn for students of SpaceX employees.</p>
<p>We talk about the value of games in learning, why “how” you learn is more important than “what”, &amp; more.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: twitter.com/SP1NS1R</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #12 Ana Fabrega & Chrisman Frank - Learning via Games, Problem Solving, & First Principles
Pub date: 2021-03-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/60971482aa4e4c4f9ee2c763f7ca8977/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:31:08 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:39:17</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business &amp; Investing Knowledge</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4/">#13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business & Investing Knowledge</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4/&notes=#13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business & Investing Knowledge">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week's guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/damian_brychcy">Damian Brychcy</a>, CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com/joincolossus">Colossus</a>. Colossus was born out of <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a>'s podcasts, and it's on a mission to create and curate the world's best information on business and investing. Damian and I discuss curiosity, mapping knowledge, the vision of Colossus, &amp; more.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4/">#13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business & Investing Knowledge</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4/&notes=#13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business & Investing Knowledge">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week's guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/damian_brychcy">Damian Brychcy</a>, CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com/joincolossus">Colossus</a>. Colossus was born out of <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a>'s podcasts, and it's on a mission to create and curate the world's best information on business and investing. Damian and I discuss curiosity, mapping knowledge, the vision of Colossus, &amp; more.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #13 Damian Brychcy - Colossus and Mapping Business & Investing Knowledge
Pub date: 2021-04-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f138f97cbed14fe78fadd120c79799f4/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:30:59 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:35:15</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education &amp; Work From First Principles</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33/">#19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education & Work From First Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-06-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33/&notes=#19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education & Work From First Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week’s guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/RomeenSheth">Romeen Sheth</a>. Romeen is President of <a href="https://twitter.com/MetasysTech">Metasys</a>, which helps organizations with attracting, engaging, &amp; retaining top talent.</p>
<p>Romeen &amp; I talk about shifts towards flexible work, using first principles &amp; incentive alignment to fix education, angel investing, and the future of learning &amp; work in India.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/SP1NS1R</a></p>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33/">#19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education & Work From First Principles</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-06-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33/&notes=#19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education & Work From First Principles">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week’s guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/RomeenSheth">Romeen Sheth</a>. Romeen is President of <a href="https://twitter.com/MetasysTech">Metasys</a>, which helps organizations with attracting, engaging, &amp; retaining top talent.</p>
<p>Romeen &amp; I talk about shifts towards flexible work, using first principles &amp; incentive alignment to fix education, angel investing, and the future of learning &amp; work in India.</p>
<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/SP1NS1R</a></p>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #19 Romeen Sheth - Rethinking Education & Work From First Principles
Pub date: 2021-06-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/40556d1afcd94b6788de8772611c8e33/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:30:27 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Future of Learning &amp; Work</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:44:12</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>#20 Brian Flynn - Learning &amp; Earning in the Metaverse</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2/">#20 Brian Flynn - Learning & Earning in the Metaverse</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-07-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2/&notes=#20 Brian Flynn - Learning & Earning in the Metaverse">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week’s guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/Flynnjamm">Brian Flynn</a>, co-founder &amp; CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com/rabbithole_gg">Rabbithole</a>. Rabbithole helps people navigate the crypto Rabbithole and earn tokens &amp; build reputation while doing it.</p>
<p>Brian and I talk about how crypto is redefining learning &amp; work, how to sift through the noise, Rabbithole’s new Pathfinder program, &amp; more.</p>
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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-WVfrin1cS3Y/">Future of Learning & Work</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2/">#20 Brian Flynn - Learning & Earning in the Metaverse</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-07-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2/&notes=#20 Brian Flynn - Learning & Earning in the Metaverse">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/future-of-learning-work-spencer-kier-TrqNZnQ9_2X-WVfrin1cS3Y.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This week’s guest is <a href="https://twitter.com/Flynnjamm">Brian Flynn</a>, co-founder &amp; CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com/rabbithole_gg">Rabbithole</a>. Rabbithole helps people navigate the crypto Rabbithole and earn tokens &amp; build reputation while doing it.</p>
<p>Brian and I talk about how crypto is redefining learning &amp; work, how to sift through the noise, Rabbithole’s new Pathfinder program, &amp; more.</p>
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<p>Follow Spencer Kier on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/SP1NS1R">@SP1NS1R</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Kier, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Future of Learning & Work
Episode: #20 Brian Flynn - Learning & Earning in the Metaverse
Pub date: 2021-07-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7b58eff52d3745ddb2c5f8a6313e73f2/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2021 04:30:17 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Spencer Kier</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:32:14</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Spencer Kier</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/hope-in-source-henry-zhu-ymQbGdM9FJD/">Hope in Source</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/afa2eeeae6dd4536b95c2e019ea92f95/">Digital Disembodiment (Maggie Appleton)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/afa2eeeae6dd4536b95c2e019ea92f95/&notes=Digital Disembodiment (Maggie Appleton)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/hope-in-source-henry-zhu-EKP7xdUuisD-ymQbGdM9FJD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>How does the digital life shape our perceptions of ourselves? Maggie Appleton starts us off on a discussion of school in pandemic times which lead to a discussion of the disembodiment that technology can create, somehow bringing us further towards our thoughts on time and space? (Recorded in November 2020) Transcript: https://hopeinsource.com/disembodiment<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Henry Zhu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/hope-in-source-henry-zhu-ymQbGdM9FJD/">Hope in Source</a> (LS 31 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/afa2eeeae6dd4536b95c2e019ea92f95/">Digital Disembodiment (Maggie Appleton)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/afa2eeeae6dd4536b95c2e019ea92f95/&notes=Digital Disembodiment (Maggie Appleton)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/hope-in-source-henry-zhu-EKP7xdUuisD-ymQbGdM9FJD.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>How does the digital life shape our perceptions of ourselves? Maggie Appleton starts us off on a discussion of school in pandemic times which lead to a discussion of the disembodiment that technology can create, somehow bringing us further towards our thoughts on time and space? (Recorded in November 2020) Transcript: https://hopeinsource.com/disembodiment<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Henry Zhu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Hope in Source
Episode: Digital Disembodiment (Maggie Appleton)
Pub date: 2021-04-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/afa2eeeae6dd4536b95c2e019ea92f95/

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            <pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2021 05:07:05 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Henry Zhu</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Hope in Source</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:28:02</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Henry Zhu</itunes:author>
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            <title>37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/metamuse-adam-wiggins-mark-mcgranaghan-B3Tt7EZHWjm/">Metamuse</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c/">37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c/&notes=37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/metamuse-adam-wiggins-mark-mcgranaghan-0WdNjebmEz8-B3Tt7EZHWjm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Creating software is typically done in text-based environments—but would programming be more accessible with graphical programming tools? Maggie joins Mark and Adam to talk about the relative success of Scratch, Shortcuts, and Zapier; how to make the abstract visible; embodied metaphors; and the false duality of artistic versus logical thinkers. Plus: how to make blinking lights for your Burning Man art installation.</p>

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<h2>Show notes</h2>

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<li><a href="https://maggieappleton.com/">Maggie Appleton</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mappletons/">@mappletons</a></li>
<li><a href="https://egghead.io/">egghead.io</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/">Centre for Computing History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pacificpinball.org/">Pacific Pinball Museum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64">Nintendo 64</a></li>
<li>the <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/noughties">noughties</a> or the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aughts">aughts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://reactjs.org/">React</a></li>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/">Scratch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zapier.com/">Zapier</a>, <a href="https://ifttt.com/">IFTTT</a>, <a href="https://www.integromat.com/en">Integromat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/2021/02/14/no-code-low-code-why-you-should-be-paying-attention/">low-code / no-code</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.myabandonware.com/game/rockys-boots-cp">Rocky’s Boots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_diagram">circuit diagrams</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_(programming_language)#DrRacket_IDE">DrScheme</a></li>
<li><a href="https://origami.design/">Origami Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://museapp.com/memos/2020-12-infinite-canvas/">Muse memo on infinite canvas with Origami screenshot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ni.com/en-us/shop/labview.html">LabVIEW</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/logic-pro/">Logic Pro</a>, <a href="https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason">Reason</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/logicpro/environment-overview-lgcpf755dc51/mac">the environment in Logic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/shortcuts/welcome/ios">iOS Shortcuts</a> (née <a href="https://workflow.is/">Workflow</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/console/log">console loggings</a></li>
<li>end-user programming: <a href="https://www.inkandswitch.com/end-user-programming.html#embodiment">embodiment</a></li>
<li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">VS Code</a>, <a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">npm</a>, <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">Ruby on Rails</a>, <a href="https://graphql.org/">GraphQL</a>, <a href="https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html">React hooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_anthropology">cultural anthropology</a></li>
<li><a href="https://georgelakoff.com/">Geroge Lakoff</a>, <a href="https://philosophy.uoregon.edu/profile/markj/">Mark Johnson</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/a-brief-guide-to-embodied-cognition-why-you-are-not-your-brain/">embodied metaphors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://overreacted.io/">Dan Abramov</a></li>
<li><a href="https://justjavascript.com/">Just Javascript</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cprogramming/c_pointers.htm">pointers in C</a></li>
<li><a href="https://redux.js.org/tutorials/fundamentals/part-3-state-actions-reducers">Redux actions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://poignant.guide/book/chapter-3.html">_why’s poignant guide to ruby</a></li>
<li><a href="http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/">Learnable Programming</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/">Edward Tufte</a>, <a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_visex">Visual Explanations</a>, <a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_be">Beautiful Evidence</a></li>
<li><a href="https://graphviz.org/">Graphviz</a> <a href="https://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html">DOT graphs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.familyhandyman.com/list/dirt-simple-woodworking-jigs-you-need/">jigs in wordworking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://unity.com/products/unity-platform">Unity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://museapp.com/podcast/34-bring-your-own-client/">episode with Geoffrey Litt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://flutter.dev/">Flutter</a>, <a href="https://developer.apple.com/xcode/swiftui/">SwiftUI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://xstate.js.org/docs/">XState</a></li>
<li><a href="http://aprt.us/">Apparatus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/direct-manipulation/">direct manipulation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver">Dreamweaver</a></li>
<li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/xcode/interface-builder/">Interface Builder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://drossbucket.com/2021/06/30/hacker-news-folk-wisdom-on-visual-programming/">Hacker News folk wisdom on visual programming</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.adafruit.com/">Adafruit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://reference.digilentinc.com/learn/microprocessor/tutorials/debouncing-via-rc-filter/start">circuit debouncing with capacitors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhenIWasYourAge">walk uphill in the snow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ivanreese/visual-programming-codex#readme">Visual Programming Codex</a></li>
<li><a href="https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/">Whole Code Catalog</a></li>
</ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Adam Wiggins, Mark McGranaghan, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/metamuse-adam-wiggins-mark-mcgranaghan-B3Tt7EZHWjm/">Metamuse</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c/">37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-08-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c/&notes=37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/metamuse-adam-wiggins-mark-mcgranaghan-0WdNjebmEz8-B3Tt7EZHWjm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Creating software is typically done in text-based environments—but would programming be more accessible with graphical programming tools? Maggie joins Mark and Adam to talk about the relative success of Scratch, Shortcuts, and Zapier; how to make the abstract visible; embodied metaphors; and the false duality of artistic versus logical thinkers. Plus: how to make blinking lights for your Burning Man art installation.</p>

<p><a href="https://discord.gg/qFxWPzcenf">Discuss this episode in the Muse community</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/museapphq">Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter</a></p>
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<h2>Show notes</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://maggieappleton.com/">Maggie Appleton</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mappletons/">@mappletons</a></li>
<li><a href="https://egghead.io/">egghead.io</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/">Centre for Computing History</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pacificpinball.org/">Pacific Pinball Museum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64">Nintendo 64</a></li>
<li>the <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/noughties">noughties</a> or the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aughts">aughts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://reactjs.org/">React</a></li>
<li><a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/">Scratch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zapier.com/">Zapier</a>, <a href="https://ifttt.com/">IFTTT</a>, <a href="https://www.integromat.com/en">Integromat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://venturebeat.com/2021/02/14/no-code-low-code-why-you-should-be-paying-attention/">low-code / no-code</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.myabandonware.com/game/rockys-boots-cp">Rocky’s Boots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_diagram">circuit diagrams</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_(programming_language)#DrRacket_IDE">DrScheme</a></li>
<li><a href="https://origami.design/">Origami Studio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://museapp.com/memos/2020-12-infinite-canvas/">Muse memo on infinite canvas with Origami screenshot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ni.com/en-us/shop/labview.html">LabVIEW</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/logic-pro/">Logic Pro</a>, <a href="https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason">Reason</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/logicpro/environment-overview-lgcpf755dc51/mac">the environment in Logic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/shortcuts/welcome/ios">iOS Shortcuts</a> (née <a href="https://workflow.is/">Workflow</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/console/log">console loggings</a></li>
<li>end-user programming: <a href="https://www.inkandswitch.com/end-user-programming.html#embodiment">embodiment</a></li>
<li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">VS Code</a>, <a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">npm</a>, <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">Ruby on Rails</a>, <a href="https://graphql.org/">GraphQL</a>, <a href="https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html">React hooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_anthropology">cultural anthropology</a></li>
<li><a href="https://georgelakoff.com/">Geroge Lakoff</a>, <a href="https://philosophy.uoregon.edu/profile/markj/">Mark Johnson</a></li>
<li><a href="https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/a-brief-guide-to-embodied-cognition-why-you-are-not-your-brain/">embodied metaphors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://overreacted.io/">Dan Abramov</a></li>
<li><a href="https://justjavascript.com/">Just Javascript</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cprogramming/c_pointers.htm">pointers in C</a></li>
<li><a href="https://redux.js.org/tutorials/fundamentals/part-3-state-actions-reducers">Redux actions</a></li>
<li><a href="https://poignant.guide/book/chapter-3.html">_why’s poignant guide to ruby</a></li>
<li><a href="http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/">Learnable Programming</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/">Edward Tufte</a>, <a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_visex">Visual Explanations</a>, <a href="https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_be">Beautiful Evidence</a></li>
<li><a href="https://graphviz.org/">Graphviz</a> <a href="https://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html">DOT graphs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.familyhandyman.com/list/dirt-simple-woodworking-jigs-you-need/">jigs in wordworking</a></li>
<li><a href="https://unity.com/products/unity-platform">Unity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://museapp.com/podcast/34-bring-your-own-client/">episode with Geoffrey Litt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://flutter.dev/">Flutter</a>, <a href="https://developer.apple.com/xcode/swiftui/">SwiftUI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://xstate.js.org/docs/">XState</a></li>
<li><a href="http://aprt.us/">Apparatus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/direct-manipulation/">direct manipulation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver">Dreamweaver</a></li>
<li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/xcode/interface-builder/">Interface Builder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://drossbucket.com/2021/06/30/hacker-news-folk-wisdom-on-visual-programming/">Hacker News folk wisdom on visual programming</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.adafruit.com/">Adafruit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://reference.digilentinc.com/learn/microprocessor/tutorials/debouncing-via-rc-filter/start">circuit debouncing with capacitors</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhenIWasYourAge">walk uphill in the snow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ivanreese/visual-programming-codex#readme">Visual Programming Codex</a></li>
<li><a href="https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/">Whole Code Catalog</a></li>
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Podcast: Metamuse
Episode: 37 // Visual programming with Maggie Appleton
Pub date: 2021-08-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/1dbb1d49a8964c1c8afb2f329897287c/

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            <pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2021 05:06:36 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Adam Wiggins, Mark McGranaghan</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:50:47</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Adam Wiggins, Mark McGranaghan</itunes:author>
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            <title>David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-2c3moLkhMS1/">The TED Interview</a> (LS 63 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576/">David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-10-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576/&notes=David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-_aOQBzlH1uf-2c3moLkhMS1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>It can be easy to believe that humans are insignificant. We’re specks of dust on a random planet in a vast universe. Less powerful than elephants. Fewer than ants. But David Deutsch believes that’s all beside the point, because humans possess one unique skill: attaining knowledge. David Deutsch – Oxford professor, father of quantum computing, recluse – convinced Chris years ago to take over leadership of TED with his ideas about knowledge. In this mind-bending conversation, the two dive into his theory that the potential reach of knowledge is infinite. They explore how knowledge first developed, why it sets us apart and what all of these heady concepts really mean for our present and future. To find out more about TED, please visit TED.com.<br /><br /><strong>Find the transcript at:<a href="http://go.ted.com/interviewgilbert" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="go.ted.com/interviewgilbert"> </a></strong><a href="http://go.ted.com/interviewdeutsch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">go.ted.com/interviewdeutsch</a><br /><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-2c3moLkhMS1/">The TED Interview</a> (LS 63 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576/">David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-10-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576/&notes=David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-ted-interview-ted-_aOQBzlH1uf-2c3moLkhMS1.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>It can be easy to believe that humans are insignificant. We’re specks of dust on a random planet in a vast universe. Less powerful than elephants. Fewer than ants. But David Deutsch believes that’s all beside the point, because humans possess one unique skill: attaining knowledge. David Deutsch – Oxford professor, father of quantum computing, recluse – convinced Chris years ago to take over leadership of TED with his ideas about knowledge. In this mind-bending conversation, the two dive into his theory that the potential reach of knowledge is infinite. They explore how knowledge first developed, why it sets us apart and what all of these heady concepts really mean for our present and future. To find out more about TED, please visit TED.com.<br /><br /><strong>Find the transcript at:<a href="http://go.ted.com/interviewgilbert" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="go.ted.com/interviewgilbert"> </a></strong><a href="http://go.ted.com/interviewdeutsch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">go.ted.com/interviewdeutsch</a><br /><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from TED, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The TED Interview
Episode: David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge
Pub date: 2018-10-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/d50920dfeece4de096fb06781580f576/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:20:52 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-new-schools-the-new-schools-V2GOtxwYjfv/">The New Schools</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6/">Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6/&notes=Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-new-schools-the-new-schools-rcGkqTh6Lv0-V2GOtxwYjfv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Michael Strong is most recently the founder of</strong><a href="http://expanseonline.co/"><strong> </strong><u><strong>expanseonline.co</strong></u></a><strong>, a virtual secondary school program.&nbsp; He is an experienced school creator whose projects include Moreno Valley High School, a charter school in New Mexico ranked the 36th best public school in the U.S. by </strong><em><strong>Newsweek</strong></em><strong>; Winston Academy, a school for highly gifted students in Florida who successfully completed AP exams; and The Academy of Thought and Industry, the high school model for the largest U.S. Montessori network. He is the author of </strong><em><strong>The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice</strong></em><strong> and </strong><em><strong>Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World’s Problems</strong></em><strong>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p>1:16 Michael Strong’s common and significant components among the schools he has built.</p>
<p>3:18 Describing Expanseonline program and its role in helping middle-schoolers.</p>
<p>5:40 The trend of online learning and how community building can still be present among kids.</p>
<p>9:09 Advice to conventional parents forced to do homeschooling in this time of pandemic.</p>
<p>13:40 Socratic approach to learning vs. Traditional schooling</p>
<p>17:57&nbsp; Developing High Level Academic skills of kids and how it can help in lowering the suicide rate.</p>
<p>19:18 Learn the 3 Techniques towards Intellectual Dialogue</p>
<p>30:43 Incremental Progress and Expectation on maintaining kid's engagement.</p>
<p>35:41 Develop Critical Thinking in the Era of Disinformation.</p>
<p>41:23 Establishing trust and vulnerability in group dynamics through the lens of Socratic Discussion.</p>
<p>49:55 Identifying the type of student who thrives in the Socratic approach.</p>
<p>53:11 Understanding the balance among diverse human principles.</p>
<p><strong>Quotes:</strong></p>
<p>“Young people are finding lots of social options online. I think there is something about having your core learning community, be part of your social community.”</p>
<p>“Well, we can't get the physical, you know, we can't hug her, we can still have eye contact. it's imperfect eye contact, but it's eye contact.”</p>
<p>“ Our job is to create a deliberate learning community that also includes that community warrants. “</p>
<p>“I think the notions of love and curiosity take you a certain way of loving the workings of your child's mind.”</p>
<p>“We underestimate the value of active engagement elsewhere and overestimate the value of schooling.”</p>
<p>“I think instead of saying, Am I doing it right? Our goal is rich intellectual dialogue.”</p>
<p>“The school game is so much about following rules and it's doing what the teacher tells you.”</p>
<p>“But, you know, in Socratic, as soon as you (as a teacher) start hoping that they'll (children) come up with a certain answer. Totally. You've ruined it. You've just ruined it. “</p>
<p>“Personal identity is not just tattoos and piercings or what clothes you wear. The most important kind of personal identity consists of what kind of convictions do we have? What do we stand for?”</p>
<p>“I think love, curiosity, empathy, conquers all, and victim oppression is never a healthy dynamic.”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstrong1/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstrong1/</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/expanseonline/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/school/expanseonline/</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Habit-Thought-Socratic-Seminars-Practice/dp/0944337392"><u><strong>The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice</strong></u></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New Schools, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-new-schools-the-new-schools-V2GOtxwYjfv/">The New Schools</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6/">Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6/&notes=Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-new-schools-the-new-schools-rcGkqTh6Lv0-V2GOtxwYjfv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Michael Strong is most recently the founder of</strong><a href="http://expanseonline.co/"><strong> </strong><u><strong>expanseonline.co</strong></u></a><strong>, a virtual secondary school program.&nbsp; He is an experienced school creator whose projects include Moreno Valley High School, a charter school in New Mexico ranked the 36th best public school in the U.S. by </strong><em><strong>Newsweek</strong></em><strong>; Winston Academy, a school for highly gifted students in Florida who successfully completed AP exams; and The Academy of Thought and Industry, the high school model for the largest U.S. Montessori network. He is the author of </strong><em><strong>The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice</strong></em><strong> and </strong><em><strong>Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World’s Problems</strong></em><strong>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p>1:16 Michael Strong’s common and significant components among the schools he has built.</p>
<p>3:18 Describing Expanseonline program and its role in helping middle-schoolers.</p>
<p>5:40 The trend of online learning and how community building can still be present among kids.</p>
<p>9:09 Advice to conventional parents forced to do homeschooling in this time of pandemic.</p>
<p>13:40 Socratic approach to learning vs. Traditional schooling</p>
<p>17:57&nbsp; Developing High Level Academic skills of kids and how it can help in lowering the suicide rate.</p>
<p>19:18 Learn the 3 Techniques towards Intellectual Dialogue</p>
<p>30:43 Incremental Progress and Expectation on maintaining kid's engagement.</p>
<p>35:41 Develop Critical Thinking in the Era of Disinformation.</p>
<p>41:23 Establishing trust and vulnerability in group dynamics through the lens of Socratic Discussion.</p>
<p>49:55 Identifying the type of student who thrives in the Socratic approach.</p>
<p>53:11 Understanding the balance among diverse human principles.</p>
<p><strong>Quotes:</strong></p>
<p>“Young people are finding lots of social options online. I think there is something about having your core learning community, be part of your social community.”</p>
<p>“Well, we can't get the physical, you know, we can't hug her, we can still have eye contact. it's imperfect eye contact, but it's eye contact.”</p>
<p>“ Our job is to create a deliberate learning community that also includes that community warrants. “</p>
<p>“I think the notions of love and curiosity take you a certain way of loving the workings of your child's mind.”</p>
<p>“We underestimate the value of active engagement elsewhere and overestimate the value of schooling.”</p>
<p>“I think instead of saying, Am I doing it right? Our goal is rich intellectual dialogue.”</p>
<p>“The school game is so much about following rules and it's doing what the teacher tells you.”</p>
<p>“But, you know, in Socratic, as soon as you (as a teacher) start hoping that they'll (children) come up with a certain answer. Totally. You've ruined it. You've just ruined it. “</p>
<p>“Personal identity is not just tattoos and piercings or what clothes you wear. The most important kind of personal identity consists of what kind of convictions do we have? What do we stand for?”</p>
<p>“I think love, curiosity, empathy, conquers all, and victim oppression is never a healthy dynamic.”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstrong1/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstrong1/</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/expanseonline/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/school/expanseonline/</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Habit-Thought-Socratic-Seminars-Practice/dp/0944337392"><u><strong>The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice</strong></u></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New Schools, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The New Schools
Episode: Michael Strong - The Socratic Approach to Learning
Pub date: 2020-10-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c4eb97fe084d4aa7beaa14045bb0c8d6/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 08:03:02 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>#506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fd3b8f5fafd846729ac2b34645500e2f/">#506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fd3b8f5fafd846729ac2b34645500e2f/&notes=#506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More | Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;automated investing,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://helixsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Helix Sleep</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium mattresses.&nbsp;More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong><em>“If code scripts machines, media scripts human beings.” </em></strong>— Balaji Srinivasan</p><p><strong>Balaji S. Srinivasan</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/balajis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@balajis</a>) is an angel investor and entrepreneur. Formerly the CTO of Coinbase and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, he was also the co-founder of Earn.com (<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/16/coinbase-buys-earn-com-and-makes-ceo-balaji-srinivasan-its-first-cto/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Coinbase</a>), Counsyl (<a href="https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1001277166032633856" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Myriad</a>), Teleport (<a href="https://teleport.org/blog/2017/04/teleport-a-move-guides-company/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Topia</a>), and&nbsp;<a href="https://coincenter.org/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coin Center</a>.</p><p>He was named to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/lists/innovators-under-35/2013/entrepreneur/balaji-srinivasan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>MIT Technology Review</em>’s “Innovators Under 35”</a>, won a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703470904575500353438285456" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal Innovation Award</a>, and holds a BS/MS/PhD in Electrical Engineering and an MS in Chemical Engineering, all from Stanford University. Balaji also teaches the occasional class at Stanford, including an online MOOC in 2013, which reached 250,000+ students worldwide.</p><p>To learn more about Balaji’s most recent project, visit&nbsp;<a href="http://1729.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>1729.com</strong></a>, a newsletter that pays you. They’re giving out $1,000 in BTC each day for completing tasks and tutorials. Subscribers also receive chapters from Balaji’s new (free) book,&nbsp;<em>The Network State</em>.</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wealthfront</a>&nbsp;pioneered the automated investing movement, sometimes referred to as ‘robo-advising,’ and they currently oversee $20 billion of assets for their clients. It takes about three minutes to sign up, and then Wealthfront will&nbsp;<a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>build you a globally diversified portfolio of ETFs based on your risk appetite</strong></a>&nbsp;and manage it for you at an incredibly low cost.&nbsp;</p><p>Smart investing should not feel like a rollercoaster ride. Let the professionals do the work for you. 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fd3b8f5fafd846729ac2b34645500e2f/">#506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fd3b8f5fafd846729ac2b34645500e2f/&notes=#506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong>Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More | Brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;automated investing,&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, and&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://helixsleep.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Helix Sleep</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;premium mattresses.&nbsp;More on all three below.</strong></p><p><strong><em>“If code scripts machines, media scripts human beings.” </em></strong>— Balaji Srinivasan</p><p><strong>Balaji S. Srinivasan</strong>&nbsp;(<a href="https://twitter.com/balajis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@balajis</a>) is an angel investor and entrepreneur. Formerly the CTO of Coinbase and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, he was also the co-founder of Earn.com (<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/16/coinbase-buys-earn-com-and-makes-ceo-balaji-srinivasan-its-first-cto/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Coinbase</a>), Counsyl (<a href="https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1001277166032633856" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Myriad</a>), Teleport (<a href="https://teleport.org/blog/2017/04/teleport-a-move-guides-company/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">acquired by Topia</a>), and&nbsp;<a href="https://coincenter.org/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coin Center</a>.</p><p>He was named to the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/lists/innovators-under-35/2013/entrepreneur/balaji-srinivasan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>MIT Technology Review</em>’s “Innovators Under 35”</a>, won a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703470904575500353438285456" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal Innovation Award</a>, and holds a BS/MS/PhD in Electrical Engineering and an MS in Chemical Engineering, all from Stanford University. Balaji also teaches the occasional class at Stanford, including an online MOOC in 2013, which reached 250,000+ students worldwide.</p><p>To learn more about Balaji’s most recent project, visit&nbsp;<a href="http://1729.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>1729.com</strong></a>, a newsletter that pays you. They’re giving out $1,000 in BTC each day for completing tasks and tutorials. Subscribers also receive chapters from Balaji’s new (free) book,&nbsp;<em>The Network State</em>.</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong><a href="http://wealthfront.com/Tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wealthfront</a>&nbsp;pioneered the automated investing movement, sometimes referred to as ‘robo-advising,’ and they currently oversee $20 billion of assets for their clients. 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Episode: #506: Balaji Srinivasan on The Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More
Pub date: 2021-03-25

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-good-fight-yascha-mounk-wbGecP9-y5C/">The Good Fight</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a92a0f6d06cd4980a0babf39a3f12296/">Why Governments Fail</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a92a0f6d06cd4980a0babf39a3f12296/&notes=Why Governments Fail">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-good-fight-yascha-mounk-COxH-8N53qk-wbGecP9-y5C.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>The pandemic was supposed to prove the value of public health institutions like the CDC; instead, it exposed their inability to deal with a serious pandemic without serious errors. Tyler Cowen, a professor of economics at George Mason University, worries that these failures have a deeper cause: as the citizens of countries like the United States come to trust each other less and less, they are increasingly incapable of meeting the big challenges that await them.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tyler Cowen talk about populism, the failure of state institutions during the pandemic, and the value of economic growth.</p><p><br /></p><p><em>A written transcript of this conversation is available on </em><a href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/-why-governments-fail"><em>persuasion.community</em></a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight.</p><p>If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/account/add-podcast">this link on your phone</a>.</p><p>Email: <a href="mailto:goodfightpod@gmail.com">goodfightpod@gmail.com</a></p><p>Website: <a href="http://www.persuasion.community/">http://www.persuasion.community</a></p><p>Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid</p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><p><strong><em>Connect with us!</em></strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3nhfO2XVPsv2wZafZ5n7Hk">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-fight/id1198765424">Apple</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3RoZV9nb29kX2ZpZ2h0LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz">Google</a></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Yascha_Mounk</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@joinpersuasion</a></p><p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUtopianMagazine">Yascha Mounk</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/71607345/admin/">Persuasion Community</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Yascha Mounk, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-good-fight-yascha-mounk-wbGecP9-y5C/">The Good Fight</a> (LS 59 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a92a0f6d06cd4980a0babf39a3f12296/">Why Governments Fail</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-24<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a92a0f6d06cd4980a0babf39a3f12296/&notes=Why Governments Fail">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-good-fight-yascha-mounk-COxH-8N53qk-wbGecP9-y5C.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>The pandemic was supposed to prove the value of public health institutions like the CDC; instead, it exposed their inability to deal with a serious pandemic without serious errors. Tyler Cowen, a professor of economics at George Mason University, worries that these failures have a deeper cause: as the citizens of countries like the United States come to trust each other less and less, they are increasingly incapable of meeting the big challenges that await them.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tyler Cowen talk about populism, the failure of state institutions during the pandemic, and the value of economic growth.</p><p><br /></p><p><em>A written transcript of this conversation is available on </em><a href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/-why-governments-fail"><em>persuasion.community</em></a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight.</p><p>If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/account/add-podcast">this link on your phone</a>.</p><p>Email: <a href="mailto:goodfightpod@gmail.com">goodfightpod@gmail.com</a></p><p>Website: <a href="http://www.persuasion.community/">http://www.persuasion.community</a></p><p>Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid</p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><p><strong><em>Connect with us!</em></strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3nhfO2XVPsv2wZafZ5n7Hk">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-fight/id1198765424">Apple</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3RoZV9nb29kX2ZpZ2h0LmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz">Google</a></p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">@Yascha_Mounk</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/JoinPersuasion">@joinpersuasion</a></p><p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUtopianMagazine">Yascha Mounk</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/71607345/admin/">Persuasion Community</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Yascha Mounk, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Good Fight
Episode: Why Governments Fail
Pub date: 2021-04-24

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            <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 09:12:25 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Yascha Mounk</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Yascha Mounk</itunes:author>
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            <title>28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-convergence-the-armys-mad-scientist-9ovkV4sn5RH/">The Convergence - The Army's Mad Scientist Podcast</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ada4797d18f14d00aca7e6b616cf4581/">28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ada4797d18f14d00aca7e6b616cf4581/&notes=28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-convergence-the-armys-mad-scientist-gnYzpV3Fsit-9ovkV4sn5RH.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><u><a href="https://elidourado.com/">Eli Dourado</a></u></strong> is a senior research fellow at the <strong><u><a href="https://www.thecgo.org/">Center for Growth and Opportunity</a></u></strong> (CGO) at Utah State University. He focuses on the hard technology and innovation needed to drive large increases in economic growth — speeding up infrastructure deployment, eliminating barriers to entrepreneurs operating in the physical world, and getting the most out of federal technology research programs. He has worked on a wide range of technology policy issues, including aviation, Internet governance, and cryptocurrency. His popular writing has appeared in <strong><em>The New York Times</em></strong><em>, <strong>The Wall Street Journal</strong>, <strong>The Washington Post</strong></em>, and <strong><em>Foreign Policy</em></strong><em>,</em> among other outlets.</p>
<p>In today’s podcast, Mr. Dourado discusses technology opportunities in the next decade, the economic impact of shifting technology trends, and their impact on global security.  The following bullet points highlight key insights from our interview with him:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>According to economic statistics, technological growth has stagnated since 2005.</strong> While some claim that the economy has fully matured and further growth will be limited, others argue that there is still room for growth, but U.S. culture and complacency has prevented further growth.</li>
<li><strong>In the next two decades, geothermal energy will have the biggest impact on economic development.</strong> Cheap, unlimited geothermal energy will enable the use of more expensive materials like <strong><u><a href="https://www.arrow.com/en/research-and-events/articles/silicon-carbide-the-future-of-power">silicon carbide</a></u></strong> by significantly reducing the cost to create them, produce energy without carbon emissions thus mitigating the effects of <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/274-climate-change-destroyer-of-world/">climate change</a></u></strong>, and reduce food security concerns via indoor growing models.</li>
<li>The United States is now energy independent, which could incentivize a shift away from intervention in the Middle East.<strong> Conflict in the region could still significantly impact U.S. supply chains, given Asian reliance on Middle Eastern energy flows</strong>.</li>
<li>While <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/166-designer-genes-made-in-china/">genetic enhancements</a></u></strong> are still decades away,<strong> <u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/193-cyborg-soldier-2050-human-machine-fusion-and-the-implications-for-the-future-of-the-dod/">brain computer interfaces</a></u> (BCI) could allow soldiers to command technology at the speed of thought in the next ten years.</strong> Related <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/168-linking-brains-to-machines-and-use-of-neurotechnology-to-the-cultural-and-ethical-perspectives-of-the-current-global-stage/">bioethical</a></u></strong> concerns, while important, may also be limiting the growth of beneficial technologies.</li>
<li>Decreasing launch costs are facilitating both commercial and governmental expansion in <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/178-space-challenges-and-opportunities/">space</a></u></strong>. <strong>High resolution <u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/115-war-laid-bare/">earth sensing</a></u> technology could soon enable a “live Google Earth,” in which viewers could watch scenarios unfold in real time</strong> (e.g., Uyghur camps), impacting social movements.</li>
<li><strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/41-the-technological-information-landscape-realities-on-the-horizon/">Augmented reality</a></u></strong> will be widely adopted by the middle of the decade. However, <strong>systems will still require the development of ‘contextual awareness’ to prevent overloading users with information</strong>. In a conflict situation, a balance will need to be found that does not distract soldiers, but provides critical information in real time.</li>
<li><strong>The U.S. military should use its procurement power to stimulate private investment in developing hard technologies</strong>. Currently, <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/160-the-trouble-with-talent-why-were-struggling-to-recruit-and-retain-our-workforce/">talent</a></u></strong> is pulled into app design and software development due to higher capacity financing.</li>
</ul>
<p>Stay tuned to the Mad Scientist Laboratory for our next episode of “<strong><em>The Convergence</em></strong>,” featuring <strong>Mr. Shawn Steene</strong> (OSD Policy) and <strong>Mr. Michael Meier</strong> (HQDA OTJAG), discussing the ground truth on regulations and directives regarding lethal autonomy and what the future of autonomy for the force might mean in a complex threat environment on <strong>18 February 2021</strong>!</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Army Mad Scientist Initiative, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-convergence-the-armys-mad-scientist-9ovkV4sn5RH/">The Convergence - The Army's Mad Scientist Podcast</a> (LS 36 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ada4797d18f14d00aca7e6b616cf4581/">28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-04<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ada4797d18f14d00aca7e6b616cf4581/&notes=28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-convergence-the-armys-mad-scientist-gnYzpV3Fsit-9ovkV4sn5RH.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><u><a href="https://elidourado.com/">Eli Dourado</a></u></strong> is a senior research fellow at the <strong><u><a href="https://www.thecgo.org/">Center for Growth and Opportunity</a></u></strong> (CGO) at Utah State University. He focuses on the hard technology and innovation needed to drive large increases in economic growth — speeding up infrastructure deployment, eliminating barriers to entrepreneurs operating in the physical world, and getting the most out of federal technology research programs. He has worked on a wide range of technology policy issues, including aviation, Internet governance, and cryptocurrency. His popular writing has appeared in <strong><em>The New York Times</em></strong><em>, <strong>The Wall Street Journal</strong>, <strong>The Washington Post</strong></em>, and <strong><em>Foreign Policy</em></strong><em>,</em> among other outlets.</p>
<p>In today’s podcast, Mr. Dourado discusses technology opportunities in the next decade, the economic impact of shifting technology trends, and their impact on global security.  The following bullet points highlight key insights from our interview with him:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>According to economic statistics, technological growth has stagnated since 2005.</strong> While some claim that the economy has fully matured and further growth will be limited, others argue that there is still room for growth, but U.S. culture and complacency has prevented further growth.</li>
<li><strong>In the next two decades, geothermal energy will have the biggest impact on economic development.</strong> Cheap, unlimited geothermal energy will enable the use of more expensive materials like <strong><u><a href="https://www.arrow.com/en/research-and-events/articles/silicon-carbide-the-future-of-power">silicon carbide</a></u></strong> by significantly reducing the cost to create them, produce energy without carbon emissions thus mitigating the effects of <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/274-climate-change-destroyer-of-world/">climate change</a></u></strong>, and reduce food security concerns via indoor growing models.</li>
<li>The United States is now energy independent, which could incentivize a shift away from intervention in the Middle East.<strong> Conflict in the region could still significantly impact U.S. supply chains, given Asian reliance on Middle Eastern energy flows</strong>.</li>
<li>While <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/166-designer-genes-made-in-china/">genetic enhancements</a></u></strong> are still decades away,<strong> <u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/193-cyborg-soldier-2050-human-machine-fusion-and-the-implications-for-the-future-of-the-dod/">brain computer interfaces</a></u> (BCI) could allow soldiers to command technology at the speed of thought in the next ten years.</strong> Related <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/168-linking-brains-to-machines-and-use-of-neurotechnology-to-the-cultural-and-ethical-perspectives-of-the-current-global-stage/">bioethical</a></u></strong> concerns, while important, may also be limiting the growth of beneficial technologies.</li>
<li>Decreasing launch costs are facilitating both commercial and governmental expansion in <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/178-space-challenges-and-opportunities/">space</a></u></strong>. <strong>High resolution <u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/115-war-laid-bare/">earth sensing</a></u> technology could soon enable a “live Google Earth,” in which viewers could watch scenarios unfold in real time</strong> (e.g., Uyghur camps), impacting social movements.</li>
<li><strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/41-the-technological-information-landscape-realities-on-the-horizon/">Augmented reality</a></u></strong> will be widely adopted by the middle of the decade. However, <strong>systems will still require the development of ‘contextual awareness’ to prevent overloading users with information</strong>. In a conflict situation, a balance will need to be found that does not distract soldiers, but provides critical information in real time.</li>
<li><strong>The U.S. military should use its procurement power to stimulate private investment in developing hard technologies</strong>. Currently, <strong><u><a href="https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/160-the-trouble-with-talent-why-were-struggling-to-recruit-and-retain-our-workforce/">talent</a></u></strong> is pulled into app design and software development due to higher capacity financing.</li>
</ul>
<p>Stay tuned to the Mad Scientist Laboratory for our next episode of “<strong><em>The Convergence</em></strong>,” featuring <strong>Mr. Shawn Steene</strong> (OSD Policy) and <strong>Mr. Michael Meier</strong> (HQDA OTJAG), discussing the ground truth on regulations and directives regarding lethal autonomy and what the future of autonomy for the force might mean in a complex threat environment on <strong>18 February 2021</strong>!</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Army Mad Scientist Initiative, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Convergence - The Army's Mad Scientist Podcast
Episode: 28. The Next Ten Years of Tech with Eli Dourado
Pub date: 2021-02-04

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ada4797d18f14d00aca7e6b616cf4581/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Army Mad Scientist Initiative, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:14:41 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>The Army Mad Scientist Initiative</author>



            
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            <title>Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/econtalk-russ-roberts-2UvodclNYAB/">EconTalk</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0/">Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0/&notes=Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/econtalk-russ-roberts-un2l6POHv9V-2UvodclNYAB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Blogger, author, podcaster, economist Tyler Cowen of George Mason University discusses the lessons learned from the pandemic with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Appearing roughly one year after his first conversation on the pandemic, Cowen revisits the predictions he made then and what he has learned for the next time.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Russ Roberts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/econtalk-russ-roberts-2UvodclNYAB/">EconTalk</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0/">Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0/&notes=Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/econtalk-russ-roberts-un2l6POHv9V-2UvodclNYAB.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Blogger, author, podcaster, economist Tyler Cowen of George Mason University discusses the lessons learned from the pandemic with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Appearing roughly one year after his first conversation on the pandemic, Cowen revisits the predictions he made then and what he has learned for the next time.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Russ Roberts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: EconTalk
Episode: Tyler Cowen on the Pandemic, Revisited
Pub date: 2021-04-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/97eae0d2dbfb44c98435717c4c74d1b0/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:13:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Russ Roberts</author>



            
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            <title>#174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/b510e059c06c4b1fb383de60479dd9b4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b510e059c06c4b1fb383de60479dd9b4/">#174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b510e059c06c4b1fb383de60479dd9b4/&notes=#174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen is an economist, writer, and podcaster. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">https://twitter.com/tylercowen</a><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Blog: <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">https://marginalrevolution.com/</a><br />
Conversations with Tyler (Podcast): <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/">https://conversationswithtyler.com/</a><br />
Big Business (Book): <a href="https://amzn.to/2OBPbaK">https://amzn.to/2OBPbaK</a><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Wiki: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen</a></p>
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:24) &#8211; Economics<br />
(09:16) &#8211; Nuclear war<br />
(16:03) &#8211; The American dream<br />
(23:16) &#8211; Capitalism: pros and cons<br />
(29:50) &#8211; Is competition good for the world?<br />
(31:53) &#8211; Free market<br />
(32:57) &#8211; Anarchy<br />
(35:23) &#8211; Ayn Rand<br />
(40:04) &#8211; The case for big business<br />
(44:31) &#8211; Clubhouse<br />
(49:35) &#8211; Loneliness<br />
(51:47) &#8211; Eric Weinstein and economic growth<br />
(56:08) &#8211; Communism<br />
(58:58) &#8211; Putin<br />
(1:04:29) &#8211; China<br />
(1:09:21) &#8211; UBI<br />
(1:13:17) &#8211; Disagreement with Eric Weinstein<br />
(1:17:09) &#8211; Money, Bitcoin, and Ethereum<br />
(1:25:20) &#8211; WallStreetBets<br />
(1:29:16) &#8211; MIT<br />
(1:36:44) &#8211; UFO sightings<br />
(1:44:03) &#8211; Contemporary art is misunderstood<br />
(1:51:06) &#8211; Mexican food is the best in the world<br />
(1:55:56) &#8211; Jiro Dreams of Sushi<br />
(1:59:59) &#8211; Book recommendations<br />
(2:02:15) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(2:05:53) &#8211; Love<br />
(2:11:35) &#8211; Mortality<br />
(2:13:25) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b510e059c06c4b1fb383de60479dd9b4/">#174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-04-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b510e059c06c4b1fb383de60479dd9b4/&notes=#174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen is an economist, writer, and podcaster. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">https://twitter.com/tylercowen</a><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Blog: <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">https://marginalrevolution.com/</a><br />
Conversations with Tyler (Podcast): <a href="https://conversationswithtyler.com/">https://conversationswithtyler.com/</a><br />
Big Business (Book): <a href="https://amzn.to/2OBPbaK">https://amzn.to/2OBPbaK</a><br />
Tyler&#8217;s Wiki: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen</a></p>
<p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br />
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br />
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br />
Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br />
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br />
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a><br />
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a></p>
<p><b>SUPPORT &#38; CONNECT:</b><br />
&#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br />
&#8211; Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a><br />
&#8211; Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a><br />
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&#8211; Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a></p>
<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:24) &#8211; Economics<br />
(09:16) &#8211; Nuclear war<br />
(16:03) &#8211; The American dream<br />
(23:16) &#8211; Capitalism: pros and cons<br />
(29:50) &#8211; Is competition good for the world?<br />
(31:53) &#8211; Free market<br />
(32:57) &#8211; Anarchy<br />
(35:23) &#8211; Ayn Rand<br />
(40:04) &#8211; The case for big business<br />
(44:31) &#8211; Clubhouse<br />
(49:35) &#8211; Loneliness<br />
(51:47) &#8211; Eric Weinstein and economic growth<br />
(56:08) &#8211; Communism<br />
(58:58) &#8211; Putin<br />
(1:04:29) &#8211; China<br />
(1:09:21) &#8211; UBI<br />
(1:13:17) &#8211; Disagreement with Eric Weinstein<br />
(1:17:09) &#8211; Money, Bitcoin, and Ethereum<br />
(1:25:20) &#8211; WallStreetBets<br />
(1:29:16) &#8211; MIT<br />
(1:36:44) &#8211; UFO sightings<br />
(1:44:03) &#8211; Contemporary art is misunderstood<br />
(1:51:06) &#8211; Mexican food is the best in the world<br />
(1:55:56) &#8211; Jiro Dreams of Sushi<br />
(1:59:59) &#8211; Book recommendations<br />
(2:02:15) &#8211; Advice for young people<br />
(2:05:53) &#8211; Love<br />
(2:11:35) &#8211; Mortality<br />
(2:13:25) &#8211; Meaning of life</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: #174 – Tyler Cowen: Economic Growth and the Fight Against Conformity and Mediocrity
Pub date: 2021-04-10

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/village-global-podcast-village-global-Zbiejgx0l-F/">Village Global Podcast</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f6ed919f6c6d45bdb610b77099b2f12b/">The 2020s, Economic Growth, and Deep Tech with Eli Dourado</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f6ed919f6c6d45bdb610b77099b2f12b/&notes=The 2020s, Economic Growth, and Deep Tech with Eli Dourado">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/village-global-podcast-village-global-dzGunAU-NLW-Zbiejgx0l-F.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Eli Dourado (@elidourado) of the Center for Growth and Opportunity, joins Erik on this episode to discuss:<br /><br />- Why Eli wants to radically increase GDP per capita and the current bottlenecks to achieving that.<br /><br />- Why he thinks the 2020s will be the decade of atoms.<br /><br />- Why amazing scientific breakthroughs like CRISPR haven't translated into new products or treatments.<br /><br />- Why he's excited about geothermal power and how it could change geopolitics if its potential is realized.<br /><br />- His breakdown of his position as a technological optimist and cultural pessimist.<br /><br />- Where he agrees or disagrees with Tyler Cowen, Bryan Caplan, Peter Thiel, and Samuel Hammond.<br /><br />- Why entrepreneurs shouldn't shy away from areas with regulatory risk, since "that's where all the action happens."<br /><br />Thanks for listening — if you like what you hear, please review us on your favorite podcast platform. <br /><br />Check us out on the web at <a href="http://www.villageglobal.vc" rel="noopener">www.villageglobal.vc</a> or get in touch with us on Twitter @villageglobal.<br /><br />Want to get updates from us? Subscribe to get a peek inside the Village. We’ll send you reading recommendations, exclusive event invites, and commentary on the latest happenings in Silicon Valley. <a href="http://www.villageglobal.vc/signup" rel="noopener">www.villageglobal.vc/signup</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Village Global, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/village-global-podcast-village-global-Zbiejgx0l-F/">Village Global Podcast</a> (LS 46 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f6ed919f6c6d45bdb610b77099b2f12b/">The 2020s, Economic Growth, and Deep Tech with Eli Dourado</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-03-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f6ed919f6c6d45bdb610b77099b2f12b/&notes=The 2020s, Economic Growth, and Deep Tech with Eli Dourado">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/village-global-podcast-village-global-dzGunAU-NLW-Zbiejgx0l-F.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Eli Dourado (@elidourado) of the Center for Growth and Opportunity, joins Erik on this episode to discuss:<br /><br />- Why Eli wants to radically increase GDP per capita and the current bottlenecks to achieving that.<br /><br />- Why he thinks the 2020s will be the decade of atoms.<br /><br />- Why amazing scientific breakthroughs like CRISPR haven't translated into new products or treatments.<br /><br />- Why he's excited about geothermal power and how it could change geopolitics if its potential is realized.<br /><br />- His breakdown of his position as a technological optimist and cultural pessimist.<br /><br />- Where he agrees or disagrees with Tyler Cowen, Bryan Caplan, Peter Thiel, and Samuel Hammond.<br /><br />- Why entrepreneurs shouldn't shy away from areas with regulatory risk, since "that's where all the action happens."<br /><br />Thanks for listening — if you like what you hear, please review us on your favorite podcast platform. <br /><br />Check us out on the web at <a href="http://www.villageglobal.vc" rel="noopener">www.villageglobal.vc</a> or get in touch with us on Twitter @villageglobal.<br /><br />Want to get updates from us? Subscribe to get a peek inside the Village. We’ll send you reading recommendations, exclusive event invites, and commentary on the latest happenings in Silicon Valley. <a href="http://www.villageglobal.vc/signup" rel="noopener">www.villageglobal.vc/signup</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Village Global, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Village Global Podcast
Episode: The 2020s, Economic Growth, and Deep Tech with Eli Dourado
Pub date: 2021-03-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f6ed919f6c6d45bdb610b77099b2f12b/

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            <title>Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/operators-delian-asparouhov-Gmd4Z8Xv9xO/">Operators</a> (LS 32 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5ae8a66394584df4a278779f9261543f/">Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-11-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5ae8a66394584df4a278779f9261543f/&notes=Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/operators-delian-asparouhov-HP-l9yaTRzh-Gmd4Z8Xv9xO.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Keith Rabois is currently a general partner at Founders Fund.  Prior to joining Founders Fund, Keith was an early executive at several successful companies including PayPayl, LinkedIn, and the COO of Square.  He also spent six years at Khosla Ventures prior to joining Founders Fund.  <br /><br />In this episode we talk about Keith’s start as a lawyer and why he decided to leave law, the moment he knew PayPal was going to be a success, and his philosophy on goal alignment.  He also shares his thoughts on the joy he has for team building and mentoring, why regulatory risk doesn’t scare him, and the days when he used to scan every LinkedIn profile.  <br /><br />I hope you enjoy the show.<br /><br /><a href="https://delian.substack.com/p/operators-ep-14-transcript">Transcript available here.</a> <br /><br />Get full access to Operators at <a href="https://delian.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast">delian.substack.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Delian Asparouhov, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/operators-delian-asparouhov-Gmd4Z8Xv9xO/">Operators</a> (LS 32 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5ae8a66394584df4a278779f9261543f/">Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-11-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5ae8a66394584df4a278779f9261543f/&notes=Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/operators-delian-asparouhov-HP-l9yaTRzh-Gmd4Z8Xv9xO.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Keith Rabois is currently a general partner at Founders Fund.  Prior to joining Founders Fund, Keith was an early executive at several successful companies including PayPayl, LinkedIn, and the COO of Square.  He also spent six years at Khosla Ventures prior to joining Founders Fund.  <br /><br />In this episode we talk about Keith’s start as a lawyer and why he decided to leave law, the moment he knew PayPal was going to be a success, and his philosophy on goal alignment.  He also shares his thoughts on the joy he has for team building and mentoring, why regulatory risk doesn’t scare him, and the days when he used to scan every LinkedIn profile.  <br /><br />I hope you enjoy the show.<br /><br /><a href="https://delian.substack.com/p/operators-ep-14-transcript">Transcript available here.</a> <br /><br />Get full access to Operators at <a href="https://delian.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast">delian.substack.com/subscribe</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Delian Asparouhov, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Operators Ep 14: Keith Rabois (Founders Fund)
Pub date: 2020-11-09

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            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:44:15 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <title>#163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2cc8ddd34ab54f7aa0017115751c7881/">#163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2cc8ddd34ab54f7aa0017115751c7881/&notes=#163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Eric Weinstein is a mathematical physicist and podcaster. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
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<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Eric&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein​">https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein​</a><br />
Eric&#8217;s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/ericweinsteinphd">https://www.youtube.com/ericweinsteinphd</a><br />
The Portal podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563</a></p>
<p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br />
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br />
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:27) &#8211; Aliens and physics<br />
(11:12) &#8211; Breaking the frame of conversation<br />
(12:56) &#8211; Time travel across multiple dimensions<br />
(19:07) &#8211; Is the government in possession of alien spacecraft?<br />
(25:31) &#8211; Freedom of speech<br />
(36:49) &#8211; Elon Musk<br />
(38:07) &#8211; Idealism of every era<br />
(41:26) &#8211; Non-locality of free speech in the Internet age<br />
(47:03) &#8211; Glenn Beck<br />
(48:57) &#8211; Joe Rogan<br />
(53:41) &#8211; Freedom and fear<br />
(55:14) &#8211; Jeffrey Epstein<br />
(58:53) &#8211; Aaron Swartz<br />
(1:04:29) &#8211; Jeffrey Epstein and Geometric Unity<br />
(1:24:04) &#8211; Cancel culture<br />
(1:26:06) &#8211; Alex Jones<br />
(1:35:01) &#8211; Curtis Yarvin<br />
(1:39:40) &#8211; Michael Malice<br />
(1:42:00) &#8211; Intellectual Dark Web<br />
(1:48:52) &#8211; Innovation<br />
(2:02:10) &#8211; Economics<br />
(2:09:29) &#8211; Cryptocurrency<br />
(2:15:37) &#8211; Geometric Unity paper<br />
(2:32:42) &#8211; David Goggins challenge<br />
(2:34:05) &#8211; Father and son</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-YRs7Zkd0n4l/">Lex Fridman Podcast</a> (LS 77 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2cc8ddd34ab54f7aa0017115751c7881/">#163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2021-02-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2cc8ddd34ab54f7aa0017115751c7881/&notes=#163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/lex-fridman-podcast-lex-fridman-HnulBrVv9Ej-YRs7Zkd0n4l.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Eric Weinstein is a mathematical physicist and podcaster. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br />
&#8211; <b>Indeed</b>: <a href="https://indeed.com/fridman">https://indeed.com/fridman</a> to get $75 credit<br />
&#8211; <b>Theragun</b>: <a href="https://theragun.com/lex">https://theragun.com/lex</a> to get 30 day trial<br />
&#8211; <b>Wine Access</b>: <a href="https://wineaccess.com/lex">https://wineaccess.com/lex</a> to get 20% off first order<br />
&#8211; <b>Blinkist</b>: <a href="https://blinkist.com/lex">https://blinkist.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 25% off premium</p>
<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Eric&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein​">https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein​</a><br />
Eric&#8217;s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/ericweinsteinphd">https://www.youtube.com/ericweinsteinphd</a><br />
The Portal podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563</a></p>
<p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br />
Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br />
Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br />
Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br />
RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br />
YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a><br />
YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a></p>
<p><b>SUPPORT &#38; CONNECT:</b><br />
&#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br />
&#8211; Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a><br />
&#8211; Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a><br />
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&#8211; Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a></p>
<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br />
(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br />
(07:27) &#8211; Aliens and physics<br />
(11:12) &#8211; Breaking the frame of conversation<br />
(12:56) &#8211; Time travel across multiple dimensions<br />
(19:07) &#8211; Is the government in possession of alien spacecraft?<br />
(25:31) &#8211; Freedom of speech<br />
(36:49) &#8211; Elon Musk<br />
(38:07) &#8211; Idealism of every era<br />
(41:26) &#8211; Non-locality of free speech in the Internet age<br />
(47:03) &#8211; Glenn Beck<br />
(48:57) &#8211; Joe Rogan<br />
(53:41) &#8211; Freedom and fear<br />
(55:14) &#8211; Jeffrey Epstein<br />
(58:53) &#8211; Aaron Swartz<br />
(1:04:29) &#8211; Jeffrey Epstein and Geometric Unity<br />
(1:24:04) &#8211; Cancel culture<br />
(1:26:06) &#8211; Alex Jones<br />
(1:35:01) &#8211; Curtis Yarvin<br />
(1:39:40) &#8211; Michael Malice<br />
(1:42:00) &#8211; Intellectual Dark Web<br />
(1:48:52) &#8211; Innovation<br />
(2:02:10) &#8211; Economics<br />
(2:09:29) &#8211; Cryptocurrency<br />
(2:15:37) &#8211; Geometric Unity paper<br />
(2:32:42) &#8211; David Goggins challenge<br />
(2:34:05) &#8211; Father and son</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Lex Fridman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Lex Fridman Podcast
Episode: #163 – Eric Weinstein: Difficult Conversations, Freedom of Speech, and Physics
Pub date: 2021-02-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2cc8ddd34ab54f7aa0017115751c7881/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:43:48 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Lex Fridman</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Lex Fridman</itunes:author>
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            <title>Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/idea-machines-benjamin-reinhardt-P6oZm_qli41/">Idea Machines</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0ed5d4049fb64773ad688afd510080f5/">Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0ed5d4049fb64773ad688afd510080f5/&notes=Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/idea-machines-benjamin-reinhardt-zPwhlEpLB1s-P6oZm_qli41.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>A conversation with Adam Marblestone about his new project - Focused Research Organizations.</p> <p>Focused Research Organizations (FROs) are a new initiative that Adam is working on to address gaps in current institutional structures. You can read more about them in <a href="https://www.dayoneproject.org/post/focused-research-organizations-to-accelerate-science-technology-and-medicine"> this white paper</a> that Adam released with Sam Rodriques. </p> <p>Links</p> <p><a href="https://www.dayoneproject.org/post/focused-research-organizations-to-accelerate-science-technology-and-medicine"> FRO Whitepaper</a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/adammarblestone?lang=en">Adam on Twitter</a></p> <p><a href="http://web.mit.edu/amarbles/www/index.html">Adam's Website</a></p> <p class="p1">Transcript</p> <p class="p2">[00:00:00]</p> <p class="p3"> </p> <p class="p2">In this conversation, I talked to Adam marble stone about focused research organizations. What are focused research organizations you may ask. It's a good question. Because as of this recording, they don't exist yet. There are new initiatives that Adam is working on to address gaps. In current institutional structures, you can read more about them in the white paper that Adam released recently with San Brad regens.</p> <p class="p2">I'll put them in the show notes. Uh, [00:01:00] just a housekeeping note. We talk about F borrows a lot, and that's just the abbreviation for focus, research organizations.</p> <p class="p2">just to start off, in case listeners have created a grave error and not yet read the white paper to explain what an fro is. Sure. so an fro is stands for focus research organization. the idea is, is really fundamentally, very simple and maybe we'll get into it. On this chat of why, why it sounds so trivial.</p> <p class="p2">And yet isn't completely trivial in our current, system of research structures, but an fro is simply a special purpose organization to pursue a problem defined problem over us over a finite period of time. Irrespective of, any financial gain, like in a startup and, and separate from any existing, academic structure or existing national lab or things [00:02:00] like that.</p> <p class="p2">It's just a special purpose organization to solve, a research and development problem. Got it. And so the, you go much more depth in the paper, so I encourage everybody to go read that. I'm actually also really interested in what's what's sort of the backstory that led to this initiative. Yeah. it's kind of, there's kind of a long story, I think for each of us.</p> <p class="p2">And I would be curious your, a backstory of how, how you got involved in, in thinking about this as well. And, but I can tell you in my personal experience, I had been spending a number of years, working on neuroscience and technologies related to neuroscience. And the brain is sort of a particularly hard a technology problem in a number of ways.</p> <p class="p2">where I think I ran up against our existing research structures. in addition to just my own abilities and [00:03:00] everything, but, but I think, I think I ran up against some structural issues too, in, in dealing with, the brain. So, so basically one thing we want to do, is to map is make a map of the brain.</p> <p class="p2">and to do that in a, in a scalable high-speed. Way w what does it mean to have a map of the brain? Like what, what would, what would I see if I was looking at this map? Yeah, well, we could, we could take this example of a mouse brain, for example. just, just, just for instance, so that there's a few things you want to know.</p> <p class="p2">You want to know how the individual neurons are connected to each other often through synopsis, but also through some other types of connections called gap junctions. And there are many different kinds of synopsis. and there are many different kinds of neurons and, There's also this incredibly multi-scale nature of this problem where a neuron, you know, it's, it's axon, it's wire that it sends out can shrink down to like a hundred nanometers in [00:04:00] thickness or less.</p> <p class="p2">but it can also go over maybe centimeter long, or, you know, if you're talking about, you know, the neurons that go down your spinal cord could be meter long, neurons. so this incredibly multi-scale it poses. Even if irrespective of other problems like brain, computer interfacing or real time communication or so on, it just poses really severe technological challenges, to be able to make the neurons visible and distinguishable.</p> <p class="p2">and to do it in a way where, you can use microscopy, two image at a high speed while still preserving all of that information that you need, like which molecules are aware in which neuron are we even looking at right now? So I think, there's a few different ways to approach that technologically one, one is with.</p> <p class="p2">The more mature technology is called the electron microscope, electromicroscopy approach, where basically you look at just the membranes of the neurons at any given pixel sort of black or white [00:05:00] or gray scale, you know, is there a membrane present here or not? and then you have to stitch together images.</p> <p class="p2">Across this very large volume. but you have to, because you're just able to see which, which, which pixels have membrane or not. you have to image it very fine resolution to be able to then stitch that together later into a three D reconstruction and you're potentially missing some information about where the molecules are.</p> <p class="p2">And then there's some other more, less mature technologies that use optical microscopes and they use other technologies like DNA based barcoding or protein based barcoding to label the neurons. Lots of fancy, but no matter how you do this, This is not about the problem that I think can be addressed by a small group of students and postdocs, let's say working in an academic lab, we can go a little bit into why.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, why not? They can certainly make big contributions and have to, to being able to do this. But I think ultimately if we're talking about something like mapping a mouse brain, it's not [00:06:00] going to be, just a, a single investigator science, Well, so it depends on how you think about it. One, one, one way to think about it is if you're just talking about scaling up, quote, unquote, just talking about scaling up the existing, technologies, which in itself entails a lot of challenges.</p> <p class="p2">there's a lot of work that isn't academically novel necessarily. It's things like, you know, making sure that, Improving the reliability with which you can make slices of the brain, into, into tiny slices are making sure that they can be loaded, onto, onto the microscope in an automated fast way.</p> <p class="p2">those are sort of more engineering problems and technology or process optimization problems. That's one issue. And just like, so Y Y Can't like, why, why couldn't you just sort of have like, isn't that what grad students are for like, you know, it's like pipetting things and, doing, doing graduate work.</p> <p class="p2">So like why, why couldn't that be done in the lab? That's not why [00:07:00] they're ultimately there. Although I, you know, I was, I was a grad student, did a lot of pipetting also, but, But ultimately they're grad student. So are there in order to distinguish themselves as, as scientists and publish their own papers and, and really generate a unique academic sort of brand really for their work.</p> <p class="p2">Got it. So there's, there's both problems that are lower hanging fruit in order to. in order to generate that type of academic brand, but don't necessarily fit into a systems engineering problem of, of putting together a ConnectTo mapping, system. There's also the fact that grad students in, you know, in neuroscience, you know, may not be professional grade engineers, that, for example, know how to deal with the data handling or computation here, where you would need to be, be paying people much higher salaries, to actually do, you know, the kind of industrial grade, data, data piping, and, and, and many other [00:08:00] aspects.</p> <p class="p2">But I think the fundamental thing that I sort of realized that I think San Rodriquez, my coauthor on this white paper also realized it through particularly working on problems that are as hard as, as clinic Comix and as multifaceted as a system building problem. I th I think that's, that's the key is that there's, there's certain classes of problems that are hard to address in academia because they're system building problems in the sense that maybe you need five or six different.</p> <p class="p2">activities to be happening simultaneously. And if any, one of them. Doesn't follow through completely. you're sort of, you don't have something that's novel and exciting unless you have all the pieces putting, you know, put together. So I don't have something individually. That's that exciting on my own as a paper, Unless you, and also three other people, separately do very expert level, work, which is itself not academically that interesting.</p> <p class="p2">Now having the connectome is academically [00:09:00] interesting to say the least. but yes, not only my incentives. but also everybody else's incentives are to, to maybe spend say 60% of their time doing some academically novel things for their thesis and only spend 40% of their time on, on building the connectome system.</p> <p class="p2">Then it's sort of, the probability of the whole thing fitting together. And then. We see everyone can perceive that. And so, you know, they basically, the incentives don't align well, for, for what you would think of as sort of team science or team engineering or systems engineering. yeah. And so I'm like, I think, I think everybody knows that I'm actually like very much in favor of this thing.</p> <p class="p2">So, I'm going to play devil's advocate to sort of like tease out. what I think are. Important things to think about. so, so one sort of counter argument would be like, well, what about projects? Like cert, right? Like that [00:10:00] is a government yeah. Led, you should, if you do requires a lot of systems engineering, there's probably a lot of work that is not academic interesting.</p> <p class="p2">And yet, it, it, it happens. So like there's clearly like proof of concepts. So like what what's like. W why, why don't we just have more things like, like certain for, the brain. Yeah. And I think this gets very much into why we want to talk about a category of focused research organizations and also a certain scale, which we can get into.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think certain is actually in many ways, a great example of, of this, obviously this kind of team science and team engineering is incredible. And there are many others, like LIGO or, or CBO observatory or the human genome project. These are great examples. I think the, the problem there is simply that these, these are multibillion dollar initiatives that really take decades of sustained.</p> <p class="p2">government involvement, to make it happen. And so once they get going, and [00:11:00] once that flywheel sort of start spinning, then you have you have it. And so, and so that, that is a nonacademic research project and also the physics and astronomy communities, I think have more of a track record and pipeline overall.</p> <p class="p2">perhaps because it's easier, I think in physical sciences, then in some of these sort of emerging areas of, of, you know, biology or sort of next gen fabrication or other areas where it's, it's, there's less of a, a grounded set of principles. So, so for CERN, everybody in the physics basically can agree.</p> <p class="p2">You need to get to a certain energy scale. Right. And so none of the theoretical physicists who work on higher energy systems are going to be able to really experimentally validate what they're doing without a particle accelerator of a certain level. None of the astronomers are gonna be able to really do deep space astronomy without a space telescope.</p> <p class="p2">and so you can agree, you know, community-wide that, This is something that's worth doing. And I think there's a lot of incredible innovation that happens in those with focus, research organizations. We're thinking about a scale that, [00:12:00] that sort of medium science, as opposed to small science, which is like a, you know, academic or one or a few labs working together, Or big science, which is like the human genome project was $3 billion.</p> <p class="p2">For example, a scope to be about $1 per base pair. I don't know what actually came out, but the human genome has 3 billion basis. So that was a good number. these are supposed to be medium scale. So maybe similar to the size of a DARPA project, which is like maybe between say 25 and. A hundred or $150 million for a project over a finite period of time.</p> <p class="p2">And they're there. The idea is also that they can be catalytic. So there's a goal that you could deliver over a, some time period. It doesn't have to be five years. It could be seven years, but there's some, some definable goal over definable time period, which is then also catalytic. so in some ways it will be more equivalent to.</p> <p class="p2">For the genome project example, what happened after the genome project where, the [00:13:00] cost of genome sequencing through, through new technologies was brought down, basically by a million fold or so is, is, is, how George Church likes to say it, inventing new technologies, bringing them to a level of, of readiness where they can then be, be used catalytically.</p> <p class="p2">whereas CERN, you know, It's just a big experiment that really has to keep going. Right. And it's also sort of a research facility. there's also permanent institutes. I think there's a, is a, is a, certainly a model that can do team science and, and many of the best in the brain mapping space, many of the sort of largest scale.</p> <p class="p2">connectomes in particular have come either from Janelia or from the Allen Institute for brain science, which are both sort of permanent institutes, that are, that are sort of, nonacademic or semi academic. but that's also a different thing in the sense that it's, it takes a lot of activation energy to create an Institute.</p> <p class="p2">And then that becomes now, a permanent career path rather than sort of focusing solely on what's the shortest path to. To some [00:14:00] innovation, the, the, the permanence. So, so the, the flip side of the permanence is that, I guess, how are you going to convince people to do this, this, like this temporary thing, where.</p> <p class="p2">I think, someone asked on Twitter about like, you know, if it's being run by the government, these people are probably going to get, government salaries. So you're, you're getting a government salary, without the like one upside of a government job, which is the security. so like what, what is the incentive for, for people to, to come do this?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. And I think, I think it depends on whether it's government or philanthropic, philanthropic fro Faros are also definitely. An option and maybe in many ways more flexible, because the, you know, the government sort of has to, has to contract in a certain way and compete out, you know, contracts in a certain way.</p> <p class="p2">They can't just decide, the exact set of people to do something, for example. So, so the government side has. Both a huge [00:15:00] opportunity in the sense that I think this is a very good match for a number of things that the government really would care about. and the government has, has, has the money, and resources to do this, but philanthropic is also one we should consider.</p> <p class="p2">but in any case, there are questions about who and who will do Froy and, and why. and I think the basic answer though, it, it comes down to, it's not a matter of, of cushiness of the career certainty. it's, it's really, these are for problems that are not doable any other way. this is actually in many ways, the definition is that you're only going to do this.</p> <p class="p2">if this is the only way to do it, and if it's incredibly important. So it really is a, it's a medium scale moonshots. you would have to be extremely passionate about it. That being said, there are reasons I think in approximate sense why one might want to do it both in terms of initiating one and in terms of sort of B being part of them. [00:16:00]</p> <p class="p2">so one is simply that you can do science. that is for a fundamental purpose or, or, or, pure, purely driven toward your passion to solve a problem. and yet can have potentially a number of the affordances of, of industry such as, industry competitive salaries, potentially. I think the government, we have to ask about what the government can do, but, but in a certain philanthropic setting, you could do it another aspect that I think a lot of scientists find.</p> <p class="p2">Frustrating in the academic system is precisely that they have to. spend so much work to differentiate themselves and do something that's completely separate from what their friends are doing, in order to pay the bills basically. So, so if, if you don't eventually go and get your own appealing, you know, Tenure track job or, or so on and so forth.</p> <p class="p2">the career paths available in academia are much, much fewer, and often not, not super well compensated. And, and [00:17:00] so there are a number of groups of people that I've seen in sort of, if you want critical mass labs or environments where they're working together, actually, despite perhaps the. Incentive to, to, differentiate where they're working, does a group of three or four together.</p> <p class="p2">and they would like to stay that way, but they can't stay that way forever. And so it's also an opportunity if you, if you have a group of people that wants to solve a problem, to create something a little bit like, like a seal team. so like when, when I was, I'm not very generally militaristic person, but, when I was a kid, I was very obsessed with the Navy seals.</p> <p class="p2">But, but anyway, I think the seal team was sort of very tight knit. kind of a special forces operation that works together on one project is something that a lot of scientists and engineers I think want. and the problem is just that they don't have a structure in which they can do that. Yeah.</p> <p class="p2">So then finally, I think that, although in many cases maybe essentially built into the structure fro is make sense. We can [00:18:00] talk about this as, as nonprofit organizations. these are the kinds of projects where, you would be getting a relatively small team together to basically create a new industry.</p> <p class="p2">and if you're in the right place at the right time, then after an fro is over, you would be in the ideal place to start. The next startup in an area where it previously, it's not been possible to do startups because the horizons for a venture investment would have been too long to make it happen from the beginning.</p> <p class="p2">Well, that's actually a great transition to a place that I'm still not certain about, which is what happens. After it fro, cause you, you said that it, that it's a explicitly temporary organization. And then, how do you make sure that it sort of achieves its goal, right?</p> <p class="p2">Like, because you can see so many of these, these projects that actually sound really great and they like go in and possibly could do good work and then somehow it all just sort of diffuses. [00:19:00] so, so have you thought about how to sort of make sure that that lives on. Well, this is a tricky thing as we've discussed, in a number of settings.</p> <p class="p2">So, in a, like to maybe throw that question back to you after I answer it. Cause I think you have interesting thoughts about that too, but, but in short, it's, it's a tricky thing. So, so the fro. Is entirely legal focused there isn't, there's no expectation that it would continue, by default and simply because it's a great group of people, or because it's been doing interesting work, it's sort of, it is designed to fulfill a certain goal and it should be designed also from the beginning to have a, a plan of the transition.</p> <p class="p2">Like it could be a nonprofit organization where it is explicitly intended that at the end, assuming success, One or more startups could be created. One or more datasets could be released and then a, you know, a much less expensive and intensive, nonprofits, structure could be be there to [00:20:00] host the data and provide it to the world.</p> <p class="p2">it could be something where. the government would be using it as a sort of prototyping phase for something that could then become a larger project or be incorporated into a larger moonshot project. So I think you explicitly want a, a goal of a finite tune to it, and then also a explicit, upfront, deployment or transition plan, being central to it much more so than any publication or anything.</p> <p class="p2">Of course. At the same time. there is the pitfall that when you have a milestone driven or goal focused organization, that the funder would try to micromanage that and say, well, actually, not only do I care about you meeting this goal, but also I really care that by month six, you've actually got exactly this with this instrument and this throughput, and I'm not going to let you buy this other piece of equipment.</p> <p class="p2">Unless, you know, you show me that, you know, [00:21:00] and that's a problem that I think, we sometimes see with, externalized research models, like DARPA ARPA models, that try to. achieve more coordination and, and, and goal driven among otherwise, somewhat uncoordinated entities like contractors and, and universities that, that are working on programs, but then they, they, they, they achieve that coordination by then, managing the process and, with an fro, I think it will be closer to.</p> <p class="p2">You know, if you have a series, a investment in the startup, you know, you are reporting back to your investors and, and they, they, at some level care, you know, about the process and maybe they're on your board. but ultimately the CEO gets to decide, how am I going to spend the money? And it's extremely flexible to get to the goal.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Yeah. The, the micromanage, like [00:22:00] figuring out how to avoid, Micromanagement seems like it's going to be really tricky because it's sort of like once you get to that amount of money, I like, have you, have you thought about, like how, like, if you could do some kind of like actually, well, I'll, I'll give her the, the, the, the, the, the thing that the cruxy thing is like this, I think there's a huge amount of trust that needs to happen in it.</p> <p class="p2">And what I'm. like I constantly wonder about is like, is there this like fundamental tension between the fact that, especially with like government money, we really do want it to be transparent and well-spent, but at the same time, in order to sort of do these like knowledge frontier projects, sometimes you need to do things that.</p> <p class="p2">Are a little weird or like seem like a waste of money at the time, if you're not like intimately connected. and so there's, there's this sort of tension [00:23:00] between accountability and, Sort of like doing the things that need to get done. I agree with that and Efros, we're going to navigate that. Yeah.</p> <p class="p2">I agree with that. And I think it relates to a number of themes that you've touched on and that we've discussed with, which has sort of, has to do with the changing overall research landscape of, in what situations can that trust actually occur, you know, in bell labs, I think there was a lot of trust. throughout, throughout that system.</p> <p class="p2">And as you have more externalized research, conflicting incentives and so on it, it's, it's hard. It's hard to obtain that trust. startups of course, can align that financially, to a large degree. I think there are things that we want to avoid. so one of the reasons I think that these need to be scoped as.</p> <p class="p2">Deliverables driven and roadmaps, systematic projects over finite periods of time, is to avoid, individual [00:24:00] personalities, interests, and sort of conflicting politics, ending up. Fragmenting that resource into a million pieces. So, so I think this is a problem that you see a lot with billion dollar scale projects, major international and national initiatives.</p> <p class="p2">Everybody has a different, if you say, I want this to be, to solve neuroscience, you know, and here's $10 billion. Everybody has a different opinion about what solved neuroscience is. And there's also lots of different conflicting personalities and, and leadership there. So I think for an fro, there needs to be an initial phase, where there's a sort of objective process of technology roadmapping.</p> <p class="p2">And people figure people understand and transparently understand what are the competing technologies? What are the approaches? What, what are the risks? And you understand it. and you also closely understand the people involved. but importantly, the people doing that roadmapping and sort of catalyzing the initial formation of that [00:25:00] fro need to have a somewhat objective perspective.</p> <p class="p2">It's not just funding my lab. It's actually, you, you want to have vision, but you, you need to. Subjected to a relatively objective process, which, which is hard because you also don't want it to be a committee driven consensus process. You want it to be active, in, in a, in a systematic, analysis sense, but, but not in a, everyone agrees and likes it, you know, emotionally sense.</p> <p class="p2">and so that, that's a hard thing. but you need to establish it's that trust upfront, with, with the funder, And that's a hard process and it gets a hard process to do as a large government program. I think DARPA does it pretty well with their program managers where a program manager will come in and they will pitch DARPA on the idea of the program.</p> <p class="p2">there'll be a lot of analysis behind it and, but then once, once they're going, that program manager has tremendous discretion, and trust. To how they actually run that [00:26:00] project. And so I think you need something like a program manager driven process to initiate the fro and figure out is there appropriate leadership and goals and our livable as reasonable, Yeah, that seems the way, at least the way that it's presented in the paper, it, it feels a little bit chicken and egg in that.</p> <p class="p2">so with DARPA, DARPA is a sort of permanent organization that brings in program managers. And then those programmers program managers then go, start programs, whereas, The look at fro it seems like there's this chicken and egg between like, you sort of, you need someone spearheading it. It seems like, but then it, you sort of like, it, it seems like it will be very hard to get someone who's qualified to, to spearhead it, to do that before you have funding, but then you need someone spearheading it in order to get that [00:27:00] funding.</p> <p class="p2">yeah. Like, yeah. How, how are you thinking about. Cracking that that's, that's sort of the motivation for me behavior over the next year or two, is that I'm trying to go out and search for them. And, a little bit of it is from my own creativity, but a lot of it is going out and talking to people and try and understand what the best ideas.</p> <p class="p2">Here would be, and who are the networks of, of human beings behind those ideas, and trying to make kind of a prioritized set of borrows. Now, this kind of thing would have to be done again, I think to some degree, if there was a, larger umbrella program that someone else wanted to do, but, I'm both trying to get a set of, of exemplary.</p> <p class="p2">And representative ideas and people together, and try to help those people get funding. You know, I think there can be a stage process. I agree that, in the absence of a funder showing [00:28:00] really strong interest, people committing, to really be involved is difficult, because it is a big change to people's normal.</p> <p class="p2">Progression through life to do something like that. but just like with startups, to the extent that you can identify, someone who's. We spiritually just really wants to do this and we'll kind of do anything to do it, the sort of founder type, and also teams that want to behave like that. that's obviously powerful, and also ideas where there's a kind of inevitability, where based on scientific roadmapping, it, it just has to happen.</p> <p class="p2">There's no way, you know, for neuroscience to progress unless we get better. Connectomics and I think we can go through many other fields where, because of. The structures we've had available and just the difficulty of problems now, where arguably Faros are needed in order to make progress in fields that people really care about.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think you can get engagement at the level of, of discussion, and, and, and starting to nucleate [00:29:00] people. But, but there is a bit of a chicken and egg problem. In the sense that it's, it's not so much as here's an fro, would you please fund to me it's we need to go and figure out where there might be Faros to be had, and then who is interested in those problems as well to, to fund and support those things.</p> <p class="p2">So, yeah. So I guess to recap what I see your process that is, is that you're going out, you're sort of really trying to. Identify possible people possible ideas, then go to funders and say, here, like sort of get some, some tentative interest of like, okay, what, which of these things might you be interested in if I could get it to go further and then you'll circle back to.</p> <p class="p2">the, the people who might be interested in sort of say like, okay, I have someone, a funder who's potentially interested. Can we [00:30:00] sort of like refine the idea? and then sort of like, like you will drive that loop hopefully to, Getting a, an fro funded that's right. And there's, there's further chicken and egg to it.</p> <p class="p2">that has to be solved in the sense that, when you go to funders and you say, why, you know, I have an idea for an fro. We also need to explain what an fro is, right? in a way that both, engages people in creating these futuristic models, which many people want to do, While also having some specificity of, of what we're looking for and what, what, what we think is as possible.</p> <p class="p2">So, and then the same on, on the, on the side of, of scientists and engineers and entrepreneurs all over the world, who, you know, have the ideas certainly, but most of those ideas have been optimized to hit, the needs of existing structures. So, so we are, we are trying to, I think, broker between those, And [00:31:00] then start prototyping a few.</p> <p class="p2">but the, you know, the immediate thing I think is to make, w Tom Coolio has referred to a catalog, a Sears catalog of moonshots. and so we're trying to make a catalog of, of moonshots that fit the fro category. but that sounds like the perfect name for this podcast, by the way. the cataloging mood child, like, you're kind of kind of cataloging moonshots and ways to get moonshots and yeah, absolutely.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. and so I guess another sort of, thing that I've seen, and I'm not sure, it's almost like for people like a lot of people who like really want. Who like sees something as inevitable and they really want to get it done. In sort of like the current environment we're recording in October, 2020.</p> <p class="p2">there's. There's sort of this perception that capital is really cheap. [00:32:00] you know, there's a lot of venture capitalists there. They're pretty aggressive about funding and one could make an argument that, if it's, if it, it really is going to be inevitable and it really is going to start a new industry.</p> <p class="p2">Then that is exactly where venture capital funding should come in. And I do see this a lot where people, you know, it's like they have this thing that they really want to see exist and they, you know, come out of the lab and it started a company that's sort of extremely common. so. I guess, like, what almost would you say to someone who you see doing this that you think maybe should do an fro instead?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, I think it's a complicated question and obviously, you know, we got to see VC also, you know, obviously VC backed, you know, innovation is, is, is one of, if not sort of the key, [00:33:00] Things that is driving technology right now. So, so I'm in no way saying that fro is, are somehow superior to two startups, in any generalized way.</p> <p class="p2">So I think that things that can be startups and are good as startups should be startups and people, if you have an idea that could be good for a startup, I think you should go do it. Generally speaking. But, there, there are a few considerations, so yeah. So I think you can divide it into categories where VCs, no, it's not a good idea for startups.</p> <p class="p2">And therefore won't talk to you, in cases where VCs don't always know whether or not it's good for a startup or whether there's a way that you could do it as a startup, but it would involve some compromise that is actually better not to make, even potentially for the longterm. economic prospects of, of an area.</p> <p class="p2">So things that can happen, would be, if you have something that's basically meant to be a kind of platform technology or which you [00:34:00] need to develop a tool or a platform in order to explore a whole very wide space of potential applications. maybe you have something like a new method of microscopy or something, or a new way to measure proteins in the cell or things like that, that, you know, you could target it to a very particular, if you want product market fit application, where you would be able to make the most money on that and get the most traction, the soonest.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Sometimes people call this, you know, the, the, the, the sort of Tesla Roadster, equivalent. You want to guys as quickly as you can to the Tesla Roadster. And I think generally, what people are doing with, with that kind of model, where you take people that have science, to offer, and you say what's the closest fastest you can get, to a Tesla Roadster that lets you it lets you build, get, get revenue and start, start being financially sustainable and start building a team, to go further.</p> <p class="p2">generally that's really good. and generally we need more scientists to learn how to do that. it'd be supported to do that, but, [00:35:00] sometimes you have things that really are meant to be. either generalized platforms or public goods, public data, or knowledge to underlie an entire field. And if you work to try to take the path, the shortest path to the Roadster, you would end up not producing that platform.</p> <p class="p2">You would end up, producing something that is specialized to compete in that lowest hanging fruit regime, but then in the, in, in doing so you would forego the more general larger. Larger thing. And, you know, Alan Kay has, has the set of quotes, that Brett Victor took is linked on his website. and I think Alan K meant something very different actually, when he said this, but he's, he refers to the dynamics of the trillions rather than the billions.</p> <p class="p2">Right. and this is something where in, and we can talk about this more. I'd be curious about your thoughts on that, but something like the transistor. You know, you, you could try to do the transistor as a startup. and maybe at the time, you know, the best application for transistors would have been [00:36:00] radios.</p> <p class="p2">I don't think like that. I think it was, it was guiding a rockets. Yeah. So you could have, you could have sort of had had a transistors for rockets company and then tried to branch out into, becoming Intel. You know, but really, given the structures we had, then the transistor was allowed to be more of a, a broadly, broadly explored platform.</p> <p class="p2">yeah, that, that progressed in a way where we got the trillions version. And I worry sometimes that even some startups that have been funded at least for a seed round kind of stage, and that are claiming that they want to develop a general platform are going to actually struggle a little bit later.</p> <p class="p2">when investors, you know, see that, see that they would need to spend way more money to build that thing. then the natural shortest path to a Roadster, or another words the Roadster is, is, somehow illusory. yeah. Yeah, this [00:37:00] is, this is a. Sort of like a regime that I'm really interested in and a, just on the transistor example, I've, I've looked at it.</p> <p class="p2">So just the, the history is that it was developed at bell labs, in order to prevent a T and T from being broken up, bell labs had to, under strictly licensed a bunch of their innovations, including the transistor William Shockley went off and, Started, chocolate semiconductor, the traders eight then left and started, Fairchild and then Intel.</p> <p class="p2">And, believe that that's roughly the right history. but the, the really interesting thing about that is to ask the question of like, one, what would have happened if, bell labs had exclusive license to the transistor and then to what would have happened if they had like exclusively licensed it to, Shockley semiconductor.</p> <p class="p2">And I think I would argue in both of those situations, you don't [00:38:00] end up. Having the world we have today because I fell labs. It probably goes down this path where it's not part of the core product. and so they just sort of like do some vaguely interesting things with it, but are never incentivized to like, you know, invent, like the, the planner processing method or anything.</p> <p class="p2">Interesting. yeah. Yeah. And so I guess where I'm. Go. And then like at the same time, the interesting thing is like, so Shockley is more, akin to like doing a startup. Right. And so it's like, what if they had exclusive license to it? And the, what I would argue is actually like that also would've killed it because, you have like, they had notoriously bad management.</p> <p class="p2">And so if you have this, this company with. And like the only reason that, the trader could go and start a Fairchild was because they, that was, that was [00:39:00] an open license. So this is actually a very long way of asking the question of, if F borrows are going to have a huge impact, it seems like they should default to.</p> <p class="p2">Really being open about what they create from like IP to data. but at the same time, that sort of raises this incentive problem where, people who think that they are working on something incredibly valuable, should want to do a startup. And then. And so there, and then similarly, even if they'd be like that sort of couldn't be a thing, they would want to privatize as much of the output of an fro.</p> <p class="p2">and so which. Maybe necessary in order to, to get the funding to make it happen. So I guess like, how are you thinking about that tension? That was a very long winded. Yeah. [00:40:00] Yeah. Well, there's, there's a lot, a lot there, I think, to loop back to you. So, so I think, right, so, so this idea that we've talked a bit about as sort of default openness, so, so things that can be open for maximum impact should be open.</p> <p class="p2">there are some exceptions to that. So, so if, And it's also has to do partly with how you're scoping the problem. Right? So, so rather than having an SRO that develops drugs, let's say, because drugs really need to be patentable, right. In order to get through clinical trials, we're talking about much more money than the fro funding, you know, to do the initial discovery of a target or something.</p> <p class="p2">Right. So to actually bring that to humans, you know, you need to have the ability to get exclusive IP. for downstream investors and pharma companies that that would get involved in that. so there are some things that need to be patented in order to have to have their impact. but in general, you, you want, I think fro problems to steer themselves to things where indeed.</p> <p class="p2">it can be maximally open and maybe, maybe you, you provide [00:41:00] a system that can be used to, to, or underlie the discovery of a whole new sets of classes of drugs and so on. But you're not so much focused on the drugs themselves. Now, that being said, right. if I invest in an SRO, and I've enabled this thing, right.</p> <p class="p2">It kind of would make sense for the effort, you know, maybe three of the people of, of, of, of 15 in the fro will then go and start a company afterwards that then capitalizes on this and actually develops those drugs or what have you, or it takes it to the next stage. And gosh, it would really make sense if I had funded in fro.</p> <p class="p2">that's, those people would like to take me as a sort of first, first, first refusal to get a good deal on, on investing in this startup, for example. Right. so I think there are indirect network-based, or potentially even legal based, structure, structure based ways to both incentivize the investors and, But it's, it's a weaker, admittedly weaker, incentive financially than, [00:42:00] than, than the full capture of, of, of something.</p> <p class="p2">But then, but then there's, I think this gets back to the previous discussion. So which is sort of the trillions rather than the billions. So if you have something where maybe there are 10 different applications of it, Right in 10 different fields. you know, maybe, maybe we have a better way to measure proteins and based on this better way to measure proteins, we can do things in oncology and we can do things in Alzheimer's and we can do things in a bunch of different directions.</p> <p class="p2">We can do things in diagnostics and pandemic surveillance, and so many fields that one startup, It would be hard even to design, to start, if that could capture all of that value just as it would have been hard to design sort of transistor incorporated. Right. Right. given that, I think there's, there's a lot of reason to.</p> <p class="p2">To do an fro and then explore the space of applications. Use it as a means to explore a full space in which you'll then get [00:43:00] 10 startups. so if I'm the investor, I might like to be involved in all 10 of the new industry, right. And the way to do that would be to create a platform with which I can explore, but then I have a longer time horizon.</p> <p class="p2">Cause I have to first build the thing. Then I have to explore the application space and only then. do I get to invest in a specific verticals, right? Yeah. I think the, the two sort of tricky questions that I, I wonder about what that is one. So you mentioned like, Oh, there's 15 people in an fro, three of them go off to start a startup.</p> <p class="p2">What about those other 12 people? Like, I, I assume that they might be a little bit frustrated if, if that happens, Yeah, because like, like they, they did, they did help generate that value in it. It sort of gets into two questions of like capturing, like sort of kicking back, value generated by research in general, but like, yeah, it could, it could, it could be all 15 people, you know, we saw something [00:44:00] similar with open AI, you know, in a way, for example, converting, you know, into, into a, for profit or at least a big arm of it being, being the for-profit, and keeping all the people.</p> <p class="p2">Right. So you, you, you, you can imagine, just blanket converting. but yeah, I think, I think it's sort of, In the nature of it, that these are supposed to be things that open up such wide spaces that there's, there's sort of enough for everyone, but no, no, no one person necessarily one startup would completely capture.</p> <p class="p2">And I think that's true for clinic Comix too, for example. Right. So if you had really high throughput clinical, connectomics just, just to keep going on this example, that's a great example of perfect. It's a good thing as a good example. It's not. Depending on the details, whether this is exactly the first fro or not.</p> <p class="p2">I think it's totally, totally other issue, but, but. Connectomics there's potentially applications for AI and you know, how, how the neurocircuits work, and sort of fundamental, funding. Mental is a brain architecture and intelligence. although there's a bunch of ranges of the sort of uncertainty of exactly what that's going to be.</p> <p class="p2">So it's hard to sort of [00:45:00] know it until you see the data. There's also potentially applications for something like drug screening, where you could put a bunch of different, Kind of some CRISPR molecules or drug perturbations on, on a, on a brain and then look at what each one does to their, the synopsis or, and look at that in a, in a brain region specific way and sort of have ultra high, but connect to them based drug screening.</p> <p class="p2">Neither of those are things you can start a start up until you have connected. Right. working. but so anyway, so maybe three people would start an AI company and maybe those would be the very risk tolerant ones. and then three would start at, you know, a crisper drug company and, and, and, three would just do, do fundamental neuroscience with it and, take those capabilities and, and, and go, go back into the university system or so on and yeah.</p> <p class="p2">And start using that. Yeah. And the, the sort of the other related to. like creating value with it. there's, there's a little like uncut discomfort that like even I have [00:46:00] with, say like philanthropic or government funding, then going to fund a thing that proceeds to make a couple of people very wealthy.</p> <p class="p2">Which like, and like, there's very much arguments on both sides, right. Where it's like, it'll generate a lot of good for the world. and, and all and, and such. so, so like, I guess what would you say? I guess like, as a, as a, like, if I were a very wealthy philanthropist and I'm like, do it, like, you know, it's like, I'm just giving away money so that these people can.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, the company is a complicated thing. Right? How much, how many further rich people, you know, did the Rockefeller foundation, you know, investing in the basics of molecular biology or things like that ended up generating? I mean, I think that, I think you, I think in some way the government does want to end up is they want the widely distributed benefit.</p> <p class="p2">And I think everything that should be an SRO should have widely distributed benefits. It shouldn't just [00:47:00] be a kind of, A startup that just, just enhances one, one person. It should be something that really contributes very broadly to economic growth and understanding of the universe and all that. But it's almost inevitable.</p> <p class="p2">I think that, if you create a new industry, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna feel it going to be some more written about rich successful people in that industry. And they're probably going to be some of the people that were involved. Early and thinking about it for the longest and waiting for the right time to really enter it.</p> <p class="p2">And so, yeah, that's a really good point. I guess the, then the question would be like, how do you know, like, like what are, what are sort of a, the sniff test you use to think about whether something would have broadly distributed benefits? That's a great question. Cause it's like connect to them. It seems like fairly clear cut or, or generating sort of like a massive data set that you then open up. Feels very [00:48:00] clear. Cut. it's. We we've talked before about that, like fro is, could like scale up a process or build a proof of concept of, of a technology.</p> <p class="p2">and it, it seems like that it's less clear cut how you can be sure that those are going to, like if they succeed. Yeah. I mean, there are a few different frames on it, but I mean, I think one is, FRS could develop technologies that allow you to really reduce the cost of having some. Downstream set of capabilities.</p> <p class="p2">so, you know, if, just to give you an example, right? If, if we had, much lower costs, gene therapies available, right? So, so sometimes when drug prices are high, you know, this is basically it's recouping these very large R and D costs and then there's competition and, and, and profit and everything involved.</p> <p class="p2">you know, there was the marching squarely situation and, you know, there's a bunch of, sort of. What was that? there was, remember the details, but there [00:49:00] was some instance within which, a financially controlling entity to sort of arbitrarily bumped drug prices way high, right. A particular drug. and then w was, you know, was regarded as an evil person then, and maybe that's right.</p> <p class="p2">but anyway, there are some places I think, within the biomedical system where you can genuinely reduce costs for everyone. Right. and it's not simply that I, you know, I make this drug and I captured a bunch of value on this drug, but you know, it's really, it should be available to everyone and I'm just copying there.</p> <p class="p2">There's genuine possibility to reduce costs. So if I could reduce the cost of, of the actual manufacturing of. The viruses that you use for gene therapy, that's a, that's a process innovation. that would be, you could order as a magnitude drop the cost of gene therapy. If you could figure out what's going on, in the aging process and what are the real levers on a single, you know, biological interventions that would prevent multiple age related diseases that [00:50:00] would massively drop the cost.</p> <p class="p2">Right? So those, those are things where, Maybe even in some ways it would be threatening, to some of, some of the pharma companies, you know, that, that work on specific age related diseases, right? Because you're going to have something that, that replaced, but this is, this is what, you know, things that are broad productivity improvements.</p> <p class="p2">And I think economists and people very broadly agree that, that the science and technology innovations, For the most part. although sometimes they can be used to in a way that sort of, only benefits, a very small number of people that generally speaking there's a lot you can do, with technology that will be extremely broadly shared in terms of benefit, right?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I do actually, like I agree with that. I'm, I'm just, I'm trying to represent as much skepticism as, as possible. Definitely. I know you agree with that.</p> <p class="p2">And actually, another thing that I have no idea about which I'm really interested in is as you're going and sort of creating this, [00:51:00] this moonshot catalog. how do you tell the difference between people who have these really big ideas who are like hardcore legit? but like maybe a little bit crazy.</p> <p class="p2">And then people who are just crackpots. Yeah, well, I don't claim to be able to do it in every field. and, and I think there's a reason why I've, I'm not trying to do a quantum gravity, fro you know, both, both, because I don't know that that's, you know, I think that's maybe better matched for just individual.</p> <p class="p2">Totally. Open-ended Sunday, you know, fun, brilliant people for 30 or 40 year long period to just do whatever they want. Right. Yeah. For quantum gravity, rather than directed, you know, research, but, But also because there's a class of problem that I think requires a sort of Einsteinian type breakthrough in fr fro is, are not, not perfect for that in terms of finding people.</p> <p class="p2">I mean, I, I find that, there's a lot of pent up need for, this is that's my preliminary feeling. and you can see there's a [00:52:00] question of prioritizing, which are the most important, but there's a huge number of. Process innovations or system building innovations that are needed across many, many fields.</p> <p class="p2">And you don't need to necessarily have things that even sound that crazy. There are some that just kind of just make sense, you know, are, are very simple. You know, we here, here in our lab, we have this measurement technology, but we, you know, we can only have the throughput of one cell, you know, every, every few weeks.</p> <p class="p2">And if we could build the system, we could get a throughput of, you know, A hundred thousand cells, you know, every month or something. Right. there are some, there's some sort of ones that are pretty obvious, or where there's an obvious inefficiency. In kind of, how things are structured. Like every, every company and lab that's that's modeling fusion reactors, and then also within the fusion reactor, each individual component of it, like the neutrons in the wall versus the Plaza and the core, those are basically modeled with different.</p> <p class="p2">Codes many of which are many [00:53:00] decades old. So there's sort of an obvious opportunity to sort of make like a CAD software for fusion, for example, you know, that the, the, it doesn't, it's not actually crazy. It's actually just really basic stuff. In some cases, I think they're ones where we'll need more roadmapping and more bringing people together to really workshop the idea, to really have people that are more expert than me say, critique each other and see what's.</p> <p class="p2">Really going on in the fields. and I also rely on a lot of outside experts. if I have someone comes with an idea, you know, for, for energy, you know, and I'm talking to people that are like former RPE program managers or things like that, that, that know more of the questions. so I think we can, we can, we can do a certain amount of, of due diligence on ideas and.</p> <p class="p2">and then there are some that are, that are really far out. you know, we both have an interest in atomically precise manufacturing, and that that's when, where we don't know the path I think, forward. and so that's maybe a pre fro that's something where you [00:54:00] need a roadmapping approach, but it's maybe not quite ready to, to just immediately do an fro.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, no, that's, you sort of hit on a really interesting point, which is that. when we think of moonshots, it's generally like this big, exciting thing, but perhaps some of the most valuable is will actually sound incredibly boring, but the things that they'll unlock will be. Extremely exciting. yeah, I think that's true.</p> <p class="p2">And, and you have to distinguish there's there's boring. Right? So, so I think there's, there's some decoupling of exactly how much innovation is required and exactly how important something is. And also just how much brute force is required. So I think in general, our system might under weight, the importance of brute force.</p> <p class="p2">And somewhat overweight the importance of sort of creative, individual breakthrough thinking. at the same time, there are problems where I think we are bottlenecked by thinking I'm like really how to do something, not just to [00:55:00] connect them of brain, but how do you actually do activity map of entire brain?</p> <p class="p2">You actually need to get a bunch of physicists together and stuff to really figure out what's, you know, there's a level of thinking that is not very non-obvious similarly for like truly next gen fabrication. You really, really, really need to do the technology roadmapping approach. And that's a little different than the fro.</p> <p class="p2">And in some cases there may be a, as we discussed, I think in the past, there was sort of a, a continuum potentially between DARPA type programs or programs that would start within the existing systems and try to catalyze the emergence of ideas and discoveries. And then fro is, which are a bit, a bit more cut and dry.</p> <p class="p2">And in some cases, even you could think of it as boring. but just very important. how do we prevent Faros from becoming a political football? because you see this all the time where, you know, a Senator will say, well, like I'll sponsor this bill, as long as we mandate that.</p> <p class="p2">50% of the work has to happen in my particular state or [00:56:00] district. and, and I imagine that that would be counterproductive towards the goals of . so do you, do you have any sense of like how to, how to get around that</p> <p class="p2">probably much easier in philanthropic setting than governments? Although I think I'm overall, I'm, I'm sort of optimistic that, if. If the goals are made very clear, the goal is disruptive, you know, multiplicative improvements in scientific fields. that's the primary goal. It needs to be managed well.</p> <p class="p2">so it's not either about the individual peoples, if you want academic politics and also that it doesn't, doesn't become about sort of, you know, districts, congressional districts, or all sorts of other things. I think there's a certain amount of complexity, but the other, the other thing is. I think there's really amazing things to be done in all sorts of places and by all sorts of people that are not necessarily identified as, as the biggest egos or the largest cities also, although certainly there are hubs that [00:57:00] matter.</p> <p class="p2">yeah. Cool. I think so. I think those are all like the actual questions I have. Is there anything you want to talk about that we have not touched on? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, how does this fit into two things that you're thinking about, in terms of your overall analysis of the research system, then, do you think this, what is this leave unsolved as well?</p> <p class="p2">if, even if we can get some big philanthropic and government, donors. Yeah. So, so there are sort of two things that I. see it not covering. And so the, the first that you you've sort of touched on is that there are, some problems that still like don't fit into academia, but are not quite at the point where they're ready to be at fro.</p> <p class="p2">And so, they need, the, the like mindset of the fro without. Having this sort of, cut and dryness [00:58:00] that you need to sort of plunk down, like have the confidence to plunk down $50 million. so, so we need sort of a, a, what I would see as a sustainable, way of. Getting to the point of fro type projects.</p> <p class="p2">And as you know, I'm spending a lot of time with that. and then sort of a, the other thing that I've realized is that when, when people, we sort of have these discussions that are like research is broken, I think what we're actually talking about is, is sort of two really separate phenomenon. So, what we've been talking about, like Efros, Are really sort of sitting in like the Valley of death where it's like helping bridge that.</p> <p class="p2">but I think that at the same time, there there's like what I would call like the, the Einstein wouldn't get in any funding problem, which is, as you alluded to there, there are some of these things, like some of the [00:59:00] problems with research that we talk about are just about, The sort of conformity and specialization of really idea based exploratory, like completely uncertain research.</p> <p class="p2">And that's also really important, but I, I think it's what we don't do is, is, is sort of like separate those two things out and say like, these are both fall under the category of research, but are in fact. Extremely different processes. They require very different solutions. Yeah. Actually let me, let me, since you mentioned that, and since we are here together on the podcast, I agree with that and I, I have some things to say about that as well.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think that the fro is indeed only address, or are designed to address this issue of sort of system building. problems that have a sort of catalytic nature and are a particular kind of pre-commercial stage. Right? So in some ways, [01:00:00] even though I'm so excited about borrows and how much they can unlock, because I think that this is one of two or three categories that has been, you know, under emphasized by current systems or has systems currently have struggled with it.</p> <p class="p2">there are these others. So, so I think that. The, the supporting the next Einstein and people that may have also have just be cognitively socially in any other number of ways, just different and weird and not good at writing grants. You know, not good at competing. Maybe not even good at graduating undergrad.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. You know, I'm running a lab who are, are brilliant and because the system now. Has proliferate in terms of the number of scientists. it's very competitive and, and there is a, there's a lot of need to sort of filter people based on credentials. So there's this sort of credential there's people that don't fit with perfectly with credentials or with a sort of monoculture of who is able to get NSF grants and go through the university system and [01:01:00] get the PhD and all those different Alexey goosey has this nice blog post is oriented toward biomedical, but saying basically that in order to get through the system, you need to do 10 or 15 things simultaneously.</p> <p class="p2">Well, and also be lucky. And maybe we want to be looking for some people that are only able to do three of those things about, but are orders of magnitude better than others, then there's people even who have done well with those things, but still don't have the funding or sort of sustained ability, to, to pursue their own individual ideas over decades.</p> <p class="p2">even if they do get tenure or something, because the grant system is based on peer review and is, is sort of filtering out really new ideas, for whatever reason, There's kind of the broader issue that Michael Nielsen has talked about, which is sort of the idea that too much funding is centralized in a single organizational model.</p> <p class="p2">So particularly the NIH, the NIH grant is kind of hegemonic as, as, as a structure and as a peer review mechanism. then I think we need more [01:02:00] DARPA stuff. We probably need more darker agencies for other problems. Even though I've, I've sort of said that I think Rose can solve some problems that DARPA DARPA will struggle with.</p> <p class="p2">Likewise, DARPA walls solve problems that fro may struggle with. particularly if there's a very widely distributed expertise across the world that you need to bring together in a, some transient, interesting way, for a little bit more discovery oriented, perhaps in Faros and less deliverable oriented or team oriented.</p> <p class="p2">And then there's even bigger things we need, you know, like we need to be able to create, you know, a bell labs for energy, you know, or sort of something even bigger than fro. so yeah, I think the thing that you're, you're getting at that I is, is sort of simple, but under done is actually analyzing like what the activity is and what.</p> <p class="p2">How to best support it. Yep. Which is instead of just saying [01:03:00] like, ah, there's some research let's give some money to the research and then magical things will happen actually saying like, okay, like, like how does this work? Like what, and then what can we do for these, these specific situation? Yes. I think as you've identified.</p> <p class="p2">Like there's both on the one hand, there's the tendency to micromanage research and say, research has to do this, this with this equipment and this timescale it's entirely, this is sort of subject to milestone. And on the other hand is research is this magical thing. We have no idea. but just. Let other scientists, peer review each other, and just sort of give as much money to it as we can.</p> <p class="p2">and then we see what happens. Right. And I think neither of those, is a, is a good design philosophy, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think it involves people like thinking it's it's uncomfortable, but like, like thinking and learning about. How, how did you think then understanding how it could, how it could be different?</p> <p class="p2">[01:04:00] How it's not a it's it's a system. Kevin has felt set, said it said it well. And so in some ways it's been designed, but really our scientific systems are something that has evolved into large degree. No one has designed it. It's not. Something that's designed to be optimal is it's a, it's a emergent property of many different people's incentives.</p> <p class="p2">And, if we actually try to apply more design thinking, I think, I think that can be good as long as we're not over overconfident in saying that there's one model for everyone. Yeah. I think that the trick to, sort of fixing. Emergent systems is to like, basically like do little experiments, poking at them.</p> <p class="p2">And that's, that's very much what I see getting fro is going okay. It's like, you're not saying, Oh, we should like dismantle the NSF and have it all be . Okay. Let's do a couple of these. See what happens. That's right. It's I think it's inherently a small perturbation and it it's. And I [01:05:00] think DARPA, by the way is a similar thing.</p> <p class="p2">It's sort of dark. You wouldn't need DARPA. If everything else was already sort of efficient, right. Given that things are not perfectly efficient, Darko has all these, all these sort of this niche that it fills. I think similarly Faros, they can only exist. if you also have a huge university system and you also have companies that that doesn't make sense, otherwise it's, it's a perturbation, but as we, I think it's a perturbation in which you unlock a pretty big pressure stream sort of behind it when you open it up.</p> <p class="p2">So. Excellent. Well, I think that's, that's actually a great place to close. I guess the last question would be, Like, if people are interested in, in Faros, especially like funding or running one, what is the best way for them to reach you? Well, they can, they can talk to me or they can talk to you.</p> <p class="p2">my email has, is prominently listed on my website. Twitter is great. and that, yeah, I really interested in, people that have a kind of specificity [01:06:00] of, of, of what they want of, you know, here here's, here's what I would do, very specifically, but I'm also interested in talking to people that, See problems with the current systems and want to do something and want to learn about, other highly specific fro ideas that others might have, and how to enable those.</p> <p class="p3"> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Benjamin Reinhardt, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/idea-machines-benjamin-reinhardt-P6oZm_qli41/">Idea Machines</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0ed5d4049fb64773ad688afd510080f5/">Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0ed5d4049fb64773ad688afd510080f5/&notes=Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/idea-machines-benjamin-reinhardt-zPwhlEpLB1s-P6oZm_qli41.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>A conversation with Adam Marblestone about his new project - Focused Research Organizations.</p> <p>Focused Research Organizations (FROs) are a new initiative that Adam is working on to address gaps in current institutional structures. You can read more about them in <a href="https://www.dayoneproject.org/post/focused-research-organizations-to-accelerate-science-technology-and-medicine"> this white paper</a> that Adam released with Sam Rodriques. </p> <p>Links</p> <p><a href="https://www.dayoneproject.org/post/focused-research-organizations-to-accelerate-science-technology-and-medicine"> FRO Whitepaper</a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/adammarblestone?lang=en">Adam on Twitter</a></p> <p><a href="http://web.mit.edu/amarbles/www/index.html">Adam's Website</a></p> <p class="p1">Transcript</p> <p class="p2">[00:00:00]</p> <p class="p3"> </p> <p class="p2">In this conversation, I talked to Adam marble stone about focused research organizations. What are focused research organizations you may ask. It's a good question. Because as of this recording, they don't exist yet. There are new initiatives that Adam is working on to address gaps. In current institutional structures, you can read more about them in the white paper that Adam released recently with San Brad regens.</p> <p class="p2">I'll put them in the show notes. Uh, [00:01:00] just a housekeeping note. We talk about F borrows a lot, and that's just the abbreviation for focus, research organizations.</p> <p class="p2">just to start off, in case listeners have created a grave error and not yet read the white paper to explain what an fro is. Sure. so an fro is stands for focus research organization. the idea is, is really fundamentally, very simple and maybe we'll get into it. On this chat of why, why it sounds so trivial.</p> <p class="p2">And yet isn't completely trivial in our current, system of research structures, but an fro is simply a special purpose organization to pursue a problem defined problem over us over a finite period of time. Irrespective of, any financial gain, like in a startup and, and separate from any existing, academic structure or existing national lab or things [00:02:00] like that.</p> <p class="p2">It's just a special purpose organization to solve, a research and development problem. Got it. And so the, you go much more depth in the paper, so I encourage everybody to go read that. I'm actually also really interested in what's what's sort of the backstory that led to this initiative. Yeah. it's kind of, there's kind of a long story, I think for each of us.</p> <p class="p2">And I would be curious your, a backstory of how, how you got involved in, in thinking about this as well. And, but I can tell you in my personal experience, I had been spending a number of years, working on neuroscience and technologies related to neuroscience. And the brain is sort of a particularly hard a technology problem in a number of ways.</p> <p class="p2">where I think I ran up against our existing research structures. in addition to just my own abilities and [00:03:00] everything, but, but I think, I think I ran up against some structural issues too, in, in dealing with, the brain. So, so basically one thing we want to do, is to map is make a map of the brain.</p> <p class="p2">and to do that in a, in a scalable high-speed. Way w what does it mean to have a map of the brain? Like what, what would, what would I see if I was looking at this map? Yeah, well, we could, we could take this example of a mouse brain, for example. just, just, just for instance, so that there's a few things you want to know.</p> <p class="p2">You want to know how the individual neurons are connected to each other often through synopsis, but also through some other types of connections called gap junctions. And there are many different kinds of synopsis. and there are many different kinds of neurons and, There's also this incredibly multi-scale nature of this problem where a neuron, you know, it's, it's axon, it's wire that it sends out can shrink down to like a hundred nanometers in [00:04:00] thickness or less.</p> <p class="p2">but it can also go over maybe centimeter long, or, you know, if you're talking about, you know, the neurons that go down your spinal cord could be meter long, neurons. so this incredibly multi-scale it poses. Even if irrespective of other problems like brain, computer interfacing or real time communication or so on, it just poses really severe technological challenges, to be able to make the neurons visible and distinguishable.</p> <p class="p2">and to do it in a way where, you can use microscopy, two image at a high speed while still preserving all of that information that you need, like which molecules are aware in which neuron are we even looking at right now? So I think, there's a few different ways to approach that technologically one, one is with.</p> <p class="p2">The more mature technology is called the electron microscope, electromicroscopy approach, where basically you look at just the membranes of the neurons at any given pixel sort of black or white [00:05:00] or gray scale, you know, is there a membrane present here or not? and then you have to stitch together images.</p> <p class="p2">Across this very large volume. but you have to, because you're just able to see which, which, which pixels have membrane or not. you have to image it very fine resolution to be able to then stitch that together later into a three D reconstruction and you're potentially missing some information about where the molecules are.</p> <p class="p2">And then there's some other more, less mature technologies that use optical microscopes and they use other technologies like DNA based barcoding or protein based barcoding to label the neurons. Lots of fancy, but no matter how you do this, This is not about the problem that I think can be addressed by a small group of students and postdocs, let's say working in an academic lab, we can go a little bit into why.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, why not? They can certainly make big contributions and have to, to being able to do this. But I think ultimately if we're talking about something like mapping a mouse brain, it's not [00:06:00] going to be, just a, a single investigator science, Well, so it depends on how you think about it. One, one, one way to think about it is if you're just talking about scaling up, quote, unquote, just talking about scaling up the existing, technologies, which in itself entails a lot of challenges.</p> <p class="p2">there's a lot of work that isn't academically novel necessarily. It's things like, you know, making sure that, Improving the reliability with which you can make slices of the brain, into, into tiny slices are making sure that they can be loaded, onto, onto the microscope in an automated fast way.</p> <p class="p2">those are sort of more engineering problems and technology or process optimization problems. That's one issue. And just like, so Y Y Can't like, why, why couldn't you just sort of have like, isn't that what grad students are for like, you know, it's like pipetting things and, doing, doing graduate work.</p> <p class="p2">So like why, why couldn't that be done in the lab? That's not why [00:07:00] they're ultimately there. Although I, you know, I was, I was a grad student, did a lot of pipetting also, but, But ultimately they're grad student. So are there in order to distinguish themselves as, as scientists and publish their own papers and, and really generate a unique academic sort of brand really for their work.</p> <p class="p2">Got it. So there's, there's both problems that are lower hanging fruit in order to. in order to generate that type of academic brand, but don't necessarily fit into a systems engineering problem of, of putting together a ConnectTo mapping, system. There's also the fact that grad students in, you know, in neuroscience, you know, may not be professional grade engineers, that, for example, know how to deal with the data handling or computation here, where you would need to be, be paying people much higher salaries, to actually do, you know, the kind of industrial grade, data, data piping, and, and, and many other [00:08:00] aspects.</p> <p class="p2">But I think the fundamental thing that I sort of realized that I think San Rodriquez, my coauthor on this white paper also realized it through particularly working on problems that are as hard as, as clinic Comix and as multifaceted as a system building problem. I th I think that's, that's the key is that there's, there's certain classes of problems that are hard to address in academia because they're system building problems in the sense that maybe you need five or six different.</p> <p class="p2">activities to be happening simultaneously. And if any, one of them. Doesn't follow through completely. you're sort of, you don't have something that's novel and exciting unless you have all the pieces putting, you know, put together. So I don't have something individually. That's that exciting on my own as a paper, Unless you, and also three other people, separately do very expert level, work, which is itself not academically that interesting.</p> <p class="p2">Now having the connectome is academically [00:09:00] interesting to say the least. but yes, not only my incentives. but also everybody else's incentives are to, to maybe spend say 60% of their time doing some academically novel things for their thesis and only spend 40% of their time on, on building the connectome system.</p> <p class="p2">Then it's sort of, the probability of the whole thing fitting together. And then. We see everyone can perceive that. And so, you know, they basically, the incentives don't align well, for, for what you would think of as sort of team science or team engineering or systems engineering. yeah. And so I'm like, I think, I think everybody knows that I'm actually like very much in favor of this thing.</p> <p class="p2">So, I'm going to play devil's advocate to sort of like tease out. what I think are. Important things to think about. so, so one sort of counter argument would be like, well, what about projects? Like cert, right? Like that [00:10:00] is a government yeah. Led, you should, if you do requires a lot of systems engineering, there's probably a lot of work that is not academic interesting.</p> <p class="p2">And yet, it, it, it happens. So like there's clearly like proof of concepts. So like what what's like. W why, why don't we just have more things like, like certain for, the brain. Yeah. And I think this gets very much into why we want to talk about a category of focused research organizations and also a certain scale, which we can get into.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think certain is actually in many ways, a great example of, of this, obviously this kind of team science and team engineering is incredible. And there are many others, like LIGO or, or CBO observatory or the human genome project. These are great examples. I think the, the problem there is simply that these, these are multibillion dollar initiatives that really take decades of sustained.</p> <p class="p2">government involvement, to make it happen. And so once they get going, and [00:11:00] once that flywheel sort of start spinning, then you have you have it. And so, and so that, that is a nonacademic research project and also the physics and astronomy communities, I think have more of a track record and pipeline overall.</p> <p class="p2">perhaps because it's easier, I think in physical sciences, then in some of these sort of emerging areas of, of, you know, biology or sort of next gen fabrication or other areas where it's, it's, there's less of a, a grounded set of principles. So, so for CERN, everybody in the physics basically can agree.</p> <p class="p2">You need to get to a certain energy scale. Right. And so none of the theoretical physicists who work on higher energy systems are going to be able to really experimentally validate what they're doing without a particle accelerator of a certain level. None of the astronomers are gonna be able to really do deep space astronomy without a space telescope.</p> <p class="p2">and so you can agree, you know, community-wide that, This is something that's worth doing. And I think there's a lot of incredible innovation that happens in those with focus, research organizations. We're thinking about a scale that, [00:12:00] that sort of medium science, as opposed to small science, which is like a, you know, academic or one or a few labs working together, Or big science, which is like the human genome project was $3 billion.</p> <p class="p2">For example, a scope to be about $1 per base pair. I don't know what actually came out, but the human genome has 3 billion basis. So that was a good number. these are supposed to be medium scale. So maybe similar to the size of a DARPA project, which is like maybe between say 25 and. A hundred or $150 million for a project over a finite period of time.</p> <p class="p2">And they're there. The idea is also that they can be catalytic. So there's a goal that you could deliver over a, some time period. It doesn't have to be five years. It could be seven years, but there's some, some definable goal over definable time period, which is then also catalytic. so in some ways it will be more equivalent to.</p> <p class="p2">For the genome project example, what happened after the genome project where, the [00:13:00] cost of genome sequencing through, through new technologies was brought down, basically by a million fold or so is, is, is, how George Church likes to say it, inventing new technologies, bringing them to a level of, of readiness where they can then be, be used catalytically.</p> <p class="p2">whereas CERN, you know, It's just a big experiment that really has to keep going. Right. And it's also sort of a research facility. there's also permanent institutes. I think there's a, is a, is a, certainly a model that can do team science and, and many of the best in the brain mapping space, many of the sort of largest scale.</p> <p class="p2">connectomes in particular have come either from Janelia or from the Allen Institute for brain science, which are both sort of permanent institutes, that are, that are sort of, nonacademic or semi academic. but that's also a different thing in the sense that it's, it takes a lot of activation energy to create an Institute.</p> <p class="p2">And then that becomes now, a permanent career path rather than sort of focusing solely on what's the shortest path to. To some [00:14:00] innovation, the, the, the permanence. So, so the, the flip side of the permanence is that, I guess, how are you going to convince people to do this, this, like this temporary thing, where.</p> <p class="p2">I think, someone asked on Twitter about like, you know, if it's being run by the government, these people are probably going to get, government salaries. So you're, you're getting a government salary, without the like one upside of a government job, which is the security. so like what, what is the incentive for, for people to, to come do this?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. And I think, I think it depends on whether it's government or philanthropic, philanthropic fro Faros are also definitely. An option and maybe in many ways more flexible, because the, you know, the government sort of has to, has to contract in a certain way and compete out, you know, contracts in a certain way.</p> <p class="p2">They can't just decide, the exact set of people to do something, for example. So, so the government side has. Both a huge [00:15:00] opportunity in the sense that I think this is a very good match for a number of things that the government really would care about. and the government has, has, has the money, and resources to do this, but philanthropic is also one we should consider.</p> <p class="p2">but in any case, there are questions about who and who will do Froy and, and why. and I think the basic answer though, it, it comes down to, it's not a matter of, of cushiness of the career certainty. it's, it's really, these are for problems that are not doable any other way. this is actually in many ways, the definition is that you're only going to do this.</p> <p class="p2">if this is the only way to do it, and if it's incredibly important. So it really is a, it's a medium scale moonshots. you would have to be extremely passionate about it. That being said, there are reasons I think in approximate sense why one might want to do it both in terms of initiating one and in terms of sort of B being part of them. [00:16:00]</p> <p class="p2">so one is simply that you can do science. that is for a fundamental purpose or, or, or, pure, purely driven toward your passion to solve a problem. and yet can have potentially a number of the affordances of, of industry such as, industry competitive salaries, potentially. I think the government, we have to ask about what the government can do, but, but in a certain philanthropic setting, you could do it another aspect that I think a lot of scientists find.</p> <p class="p2">Frustrating in the academic system is precisely that they have to. spend so much work to differentiate themselves and do something that's completely separate from what their friends are doing, in order to pay the bills basically. So, so if, if you don't eventually go and get your own appealing, you know, Tenure track job or, or so on and so forth.</p> <p class="p2">the career paths available in academia are much, much fewer, and often not, not super well compensated. And, and [00:17:00] so there are a number of groups of people that I've seen in sort of, if you want critical mass labs or environments where they're working together, actually, despite perhaps the. Incentive to, to, differentiate where they're working, does a group of three or four together.</p> <p class="p2">and they would like to stay that way, but they can't stay that way forever. And so it's also an opportunity if you, if you have a group of people that wants to solve a problem, to create something a little bit like, like a seal team. so like when, when I was, I'm not very generally militaristic person, but, when I was a kid, I was very obsessed with the Navy seals.</p> <p class="p2">But, but anyway, I think the seal team was sort of very tight knit. kind of a special forces operation that works together on one project is something that a lot of scientists and engineers I think want. and the problem is just that they don't have a structure in which they can do that. Yeah.</p> <p class="p2">So then finally, I think that, although in many cases maybe essentially built into the structure fro is make sense. We can [00:18:00] talk about this as, as nonprofit organizations. these are the kinds of projects where, you would be getting a relatively small team together to basically create a new industry.</p> <p class="p2">and if you're in the right place at the right time, then after an fro is over, you would be in the ideal place to start. The next startup in an area where it previously, it's not been possible to do startups because the horizons for a venture investment would have been too long to make it happen from the beginning.</p> <p class="p2">Well, that's actually a great transition to a place that I'm still not certain about, which is what happens. After it fro, cause you, you said that it, that it's a explicitly temporary organization. And then, how do you make sure that it sort of achieves its goal, right?</p> <p class="p2">Like, because you can see so many of these, these projects that actually sound really great and they like go in and possibly could do good work and then somehow it all just sort of diffuses. [00:19:00] so, so have you thought about how to sort of make sure that that lives on. Well, this is a tricky thing as we've discussed, in a number of settings.</p> <p class="p2">So, in a, like to maybe throw that question back to you after I answer it. Cause I think you have interesting thoughts about that too, but, but in short, it's, it's a tricky thing. So, so the fro. Is entirely legal focused there isn't, there's no expectation that it would continue, by default and simply because it's a great group of people, or because it's been doing interesting work, it's sort of, it is designed to fulfill a certain goal and it should be designed also from the beginning to have a, a plan of the transition.</p> <p class="p2">Like it could be a nonprofit organization where it is explicitly intended that at the end, assuming success, One or more startups could be created. One or more datasets could be released and then a, you know, a much less expensive and intensive, nonprofits, structure could be be there to [00:20:00] host the data and provide it to the world.</p> <p class="p2">it could be something where. the government would be using it as a sort of prototyping phase for something that could then become a larger project or be incorporated into a larger moonshot project. So I think you explicitly want a, a goal of a finite tune to it, and then also a explicit, upfront, deployment or transition plan, being central to it much more so than any publication or anything.</p> <p class="p2">Of course. At the same time. there is the pitfall that when you have a milestone driven or goal focused organization, that the funder would try to micromanage that and say, well, actually, not only do I care about you meeting this goal, but also I really care that by month six, you've actually got exactly this with this instrument and this throughput, and I'm not going to let you buy this other piece of equipment.</p> <p class="p2">Unless, you know, you show me that, you know, [00:21:00] and that's a problem that I think, we sometimes see with, externalized research models, like DARPA ARPA models, that try to. achieve more coordination and, and, and goal driven among otherwise, somewhat uncoordinated entities like contractors and, and universities that, that are working on programs, but then they, they, they, they achieve that coordination by then, managing the process and, with an fro, I think it will be closer to.</p> <p class="p2">You know, if you have a series, a investment in the startup, you know, you are reporting back to your investors and, and they, they, at some level care, you know, about the process and maybe they're on your board. but ultimately the CEO gets to decide, how am I going to spend the money? And it's extremely flexible to get to the goal.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Yeah. The, the micromanage, like [00:22:00] figuring out how to avoid, Micromanagement seems like it's going to be really tricky because it's sort of like once you get to that amount of money, I like, have you, have you thought about, like how, like, if you could do some kind of like actually, well, I'll, I'll give her the, the, the, the, the, the thing that the cruxy thing is like this, I think there's a huge amount of trust that needs to happen in it.</p> <p class="p2">And what I'm. like I constantly wonder about is like, is there this like fundamental tension between the fact that, especially with like government money, we really do want it to be transparent and well-spent, but at the same time, in order to sort of do these like knowledge frontier projects, sometimes you need to do things that.</p> <p class="p2">Are a little weird or like seem like a waste of money at the time, if you're not like intimately connected. and so there's, there's this sort of tension [00:23:00] between accountability and, Sort of like doing the things that need to get done. I agree with that and Efros, we're going to navigate that. Yeah.</p> <p class="p2">I agree with that. And I think it relates to a number of themes that you've touched on and that we've discussed with, which has sort of, has to do with the changing overall research landscape of, in what situations can that trust actually occur, you know, in bell labs, I think there was a lot of trust. throughout, throughout that system.</p> <p class="p2">And as you have more externalized research, conflicting incentives and so on it, it's, it's hard. It's hard to obtain that trust. startups of course, can align that financially, to a large degree. I think there are things that we want to avoid. so one of the reasons I think that these need to be scoped as.</p> <p class="p2">Deliverables driven and roadmaps, systematic projects over finite periods of time, is to avoid, individual [00:24:00] personalities, interests, and sort of conflicting politics, ending up. Fragmenting that resource into a million pieces. So, so I think this is a problem that you see a lot with billion dollar scale projects, major international and national initiatives.</p> <p class="p2">Everybody has a different, if you say, I want this to be, to solve neuroscience, you know, and here's $10 billion. Everybody has a different opinion about what solved neuroscience is. And there's also lots of different conflicting personalities and, and leadership there. So I think for an fro, there needs to be an initial phase, where there's a sort of objective process of technology roadmapping.</p> <p class="p2">And people figure people understand and transparently understand what are the competing technologies? What are the approaches? What, what are the risks? And you understand it. and you also closely understand the people involved. but importantly, the people doing that roadmapping and sort of catalyzing the initial formation of that [00:25:00] fro need to have a somewhat objective perspective.</p> <p class="p2">It's not just funding my lab. It's actually, you, you want to have vision, but you, you need to. Subjected to a relatively objective process, which, which is hard because you also don't want it to be a committee driven consensus process. You want it to be active, in, in a, in a systematic, analysis sense, but, but not in a, everyone agrees and likes it, you know, emotionally sense.</p> <p class="p2">and so that, that's a hard thing. but you need to establish it's that trust upfront, with, with the funder, And that's a hard process and it gets a hard process to do as a large government program. I think DARPA does it pretty well with their program managers where a program manager will come in and they will pitch DARPA on the idea of the program.</p> <p class="p2">there'll be a lot of analysis behind it and, but then once, once they're going, that program manager has tremendous discretion, and trust. To how they actually run that [00:26:00] project. And so I think you need something like a program manager driven process to initiate the fro and figure out is there appropriate leadership and goals and our livable as reasonable, Yeah, that seems the way, at least the way that it's presented in the paper, it, it feels a little bit chicken and egg in that.</p> <p class="p2">so with DARPA, DARPA is a sort of permanent organization that brings in program managers. And then those programmers program managers then go, start programs, whereas, The look at fro it seems like there's this chicken and egg between like, you sort of, you need someone spearheading it. It seems like, but then it, you sort of like, it, it seems like it will be very hard to get someone who's qualified to, to spearhead it, to do that before you have funding, but then you need someone spearheading it in order to get that [00:27:00] funding.</p> <p class="p2">yeah. Like, yeah. How, how are you thinking about. Cracking that that's, that's sort of the motivation for me behavior over the next year or two, is that I'm trying to go out and search for them. And, a little bit of it is from my own creativity, but a lot of it is going out and talking to people and try and understand what the best ideas.</p> <p class="p2">Here would be, and who are the networks of, of human beings behind those ideas, and trying to make kind of a prioritized set of borrows. Now, this kind of thing would have to be done again, I think to some degree, if there was a, larger umbrella program that someone else wanted to do, but, I'm both trying to get a set of, of exemplary.</p> <p class="p2">And representative ideas and people together, and try to help those people get funding. You know, I think there can be a stage process. I agree that, in the absence of a funder showing [00:28:00] really strong interest, people committing, to really be involved is difficult, because it is a big change to people's normal.</p> <p class="p2">Progression through life to do something like that. but just like with startups, to the extent that you can identify, someone who's. We spiritually just really wants to do this and we'll kind of do anything to do it, the sort of founder type, and also teams that want to behave like that. that's obviously powerful, and also ideas where there's a kind of inevitability, where based on scientific roadmapping, it, it just has to happen.</p> <p class="p2">There's no way, you know, for neuroscience to progress unless we get better. Connectomics and I think we can go through many other fields where, because of. The structures we've had available and just the difficulty of problems now, where arguably Faros are needed in order to make progress in fields that people really care about.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think you can get engagement at the level of, of discussion, and, and, and starting to nucleate [00:29:00] people. But, but there is a bit of a chicken and egg problem. In the sense that it's, it's not so much as here's an fro, would you please fund to me it's we need to go and figure out where there might be Faros to be had, and then who is interested in those problems as well to, to fund and support those things.</p> <p class="p2">So, yeah. So I guess to recap what I see your process that is, is that you're going out, you're sort of really trying to. Identify possible people possible ideas, then go to funders and say, here, like sort of get some, some tentative interest of like, okay, what, which of these things might you be interested in if I could get it to go further and then you'll circle back to.</p> <p class="p2">the, the people who might be interested in sort of say like, okay, I have someone, a funder who's potentially interested. Can we [00:30:00] sort of like refine the idea? and then sort of like, like you will drive that loop hopefully to, Getting a, an fro funded that's right. And there's, there's further chicken and egg to it.</p> <p class="p2">that has to be solved in the sense that, when you go to funders and you say, why, you know, I have an idea for an fro. We also need to explain what an fro is, right? in a way that both, engages people in creating these futuristic models, which many people want to do, While also having some specificity of, of what we're looking for and what, what, what we think is as possible.</p> <p class="p2">So, and then the same on, on the, on the side of, of scientists and engineers and entrepreneurs all over the world, who, you know, have the ideas certainly, but most of those ideas have been optimized to hit, the needs of existing structures. So, so we are, we are trying to, I think, broker between those, And [00:31:00] then start prototyping a few.</p> <p class="p2">but the, you know, the immediate thing I think is to make, w Tom Coolio has referred to a catalog, a Sears catalog of moonshots. and so we're trying to make a catalog of, of moonshots that fit the fro category. but that sounds like the perfect name for this podcast, by the way. the cataloging mood child, like, you're kind of kind of cataloging moonshots and ways to get moonshots and yeah, absolutely.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. and so I guess another sort of, thing that I've seen, and I'm not sure, it's almost like for people like a lot of people who like really want. Who like sees something as inevitable and they really want to get it done. In sort of like the current environment we're recording in October, 2020.</p> <p class="p2">there's. There's sort of this perception that capital is really cheap. [00:32:00] you know, there's a lot of venture capitalists there. They're pretty aggressive about funding and one could make an argument that, if it's, if it, it really is going to be inevitable and it really is going to start a new industry.</p> <p class="p2">Then that is exactly where venture capital funding should come in. And I do see this a lot where people, you know, it's like they have this thing that they really want to see exist and they, you know, come out of the lab and it started a company that's sort of extremely common. so. I guess, like, what almost would you say to someone who you see doing this that you think maybe should do an fro instead?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, I think it's a complicated question and obviously, you know, we got to see VC also, you know, obviously VC backed, you know, innovation is, is, is one of, if not sort of the key, [00:33:00] Things that is driving technology right now. So, so I'm in no way saying that fro is, are somehow superior to two startups, in any generalized way.</p> <p class="p2">So I think that things that can be startups and are good as startups should be startups and people, if you have an idea that could be good for a startup, I think you should go do it. Generally speaking. But, there, there are a few considerations, so yeah. So I think you can divide it into categories where VCs, no, it's not a good idea for startups.</p> <p class="p2">And therefore won't talk to you, in cases where VCs don't always know whether or not it's good for a startup or whether there's a way that you could do it as a startup, but it would involve some compromise that is actually better not to make, even potentially for the longterm. economic prospects of, of an area.</p> <p class="p2">So things that can happen, would be, if you have something that's basically meant to be a kind of platform technology or which you [00:34:00] need to develop a tool or a platform in order to explore a whole very wide space of potential applications. maybe you have something like a new method of microscopy or something, or a new way to measure proteins in the cell or things like that, that, you know, you could target it to a very particular, if you want product market fit application, where you would be able to make the most money on that and get the most traction, the soonest.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Sometimes people call this, you know, the, the, the, the sort of Tesla Roadster, equivalent. You want to guys as quickly as you can to the Tesla Roadster. And I think generally, what people are doing with, with that kind of model, where you take people that have science, to offer, and you say what's the closest fastest you can get, to a Tesla Roadster that lets you it lets you build, get, get revenue and start, start being financially sustainable and start building a team, to go further.</p> <p class="p2">generally that's really good. and generally we need more scientists to learn how to do that. it'd be supported to do that, but, [00:35:00] sometimes you have things that really are meant to be. either generalized platforms or public goods, public data, or knowledge to underlie an entire field. And if you work to try to take the path, the shortest path to the Roadster, you would end up not producing that platform.</p> <p class="p2">You would end up, producing something that is specialized to compete in that lowest hanging fruit regime, but then in the, in, in doing so you would forego the more general larger. Larger thing. And, you know, Alan Kay has, has the set of quotes, that Brett Victor took is linked on his website. and I think Alan K meant something very different actually, when he said this, but he's, he refers to the dynamics of the trillions rather than the billions.</p> <p class="p2">Right. and this is something where in, and we can talk about this more. I'd be curious about your thoughts on that, but something like the transistor. You know, you, you could try to do the transistor as a startup. and maybe at the time, you know, the best application for transistors would have been [00:36:00] radios.</p> <p class="p2">I don't think like that. I think it was, it was guiding a rockets. Yeah. So you could have, you could have sort of had had a transistors for rockets company and then tried to branch out into, becoming Intel. You know, but really, given the structures we had, then the transistor was allowed to be more of a, a broadly, broadly explored platform.</p> <p class="p2">yeah, that, that progressed in a way where we got the trillions version. And I worry sometimes that even some startups that have been funded at least for a seed round kind of stage, and that are claiming that they want to develop a general platform are going to actually struggle a little bit later.</p> <p class="p2">when investors, you know, see that, see that they would need to spend way more money to build that thing. then the natural shortest path to a Roadster, or another words the Roadster is, is, somehow illusory. yeah. Yeah, this [00:37:00] is, this is a. Sort of like a regime that I'm really interested in and a, just on the transistor example, I've, I've looked at it.</p> <p class="p2">So just the, the history is that it was developed at bell labs, in order to prevent a T and T from being broken up, bell labs had to, under strictly licensed a bunch of their innovations, including the transistor William Shockley went off and, Started, chocolate semiconductor, the traders eight then left and started, Fairchild and then Intel.</p> <p class="p2">And, believe that that's roughly the right history. but the, the really interesting thing about that is to ask the question of like, one, what would have happened if, bell labs had exclusive license to the transistor and then to what would have happened if they had like exclusively licensed it to, Shockley semiconductor.</p> <p class="p2">And I think I would argue in both of those situations, you don't [00:38:00] end up. Having the world we have today because I fell labs. It probably goes down this path where it's not part of the core product. and so they just sort of like do some vaguely interesting things with it, but are never incentivized to like, you know, invent, like the, the planner processing method or anything.</p> <p class="p2">Interesting. yeah. Yeah. And so I guess where I'm. Go. And then like at the same time, the interesting thing is like, so Shockley is more, akin to like doing a startup. Right. And so it's like, what if they had exclusive license to it? And the, what I would argue is actually like that also would've killed it because, you have like, they had notoriously bad management.</p> <p class="p2">And so if you have this, this company with. And like the only reason that, the trader could go and start a Fairchild was because they, that was, that was [00:39:00] an open license. So this is actually a very long way of asking the question of, if F borrows are going to have a huge impact, it seems like they should default to.</p> <p class="p2">Really being open about what they create from like IP to data. but at the same time, that sort of raises this incentive problem where, people who think that they are working on something incredibly valuable, should want to do a startup. And then. And so there, and then similarly, even if they'd be like that sort of couldn't be a thing, they would want to privatize as much of the output of an fro.</p> <p class="p2">and so which. Maybe necessary in order to, to get the funding to make it happen. So I guess like, how are you thinking about that tension? That was a very long winded. Yeah. [00:40:00] Yeah. Well, there's, there's a lot, a lot there, I think, to loop back to you. So, so I think, right, so, so this idea that we've talked a bit about as sort of default openness, so, so things that can be open for maximum impact should be open.</p> <p class="p2">there are some exceptions to that. So, so if, And it's also has to do partly with how you're scoping the problem. Right? So, so rather than having an SRO that develops drugs, let's say, because drugs really need to be patentable, right. In order to get through clinical trials, we're talking about much more money than the fro funding, you know, to do the initial discovery of a target or something.</p> <p class="p2">Right. So to actually bring that to humans, you know, you need to have the ability to get exclusive IP. for downstream investors and pharma companies that that would get involved in that. so there are some things that need to be patented in order to have to have their impact. but in general, you, you want, I think fro problems to steer themselves to things where indeed.</p> <p class="p2">it can be maximally open and maybe, maybe you, you provide [00:41:00] a system that can be used to, to, or underlie the discovery of a whole new sets of classes of drugs and so on. But you're not so much focused on the drugs themselves. Now, that being said, right. if I invest in an SRO, and I've enabled this thing, right.</p> <p class="p2">It kind of would make sense for the effort, you know, maybe three of the people of, of, of, of 15 in the fro will then go and start a company afterwards that then capitalizes on this and actually develops those drugs or what have you, or it takes it to the next stage. And gosh, it would really make sense if I had funded in fro.</p> <p class="p2">that's, those people would like to take me as a sort of first, first, first refusal to get a good deal on, on investing in this startup, for example. Right. so I think there are indirect network-based, or potentially even legal based, structure, structure based ways to both incentivize the investors and, But it's, it's a weaker, admittedly weaker, incentive financially than, [00:42:00] than, than the full capture of, of, of something.</p> <p class="p2">But then, but then there's, I think this gets back to the previous discussion. So which is sort of the trillions rather than the billions. So if you have something where maybe there are 10 different applications of it, Right in 10 different fields. you know, maybe, maybe we have a better way to measure proteins and based on this better way to measure proteins, we can do things in oncology and we can do things in Alzheimer's and we can do things in a bunch of different directions.</p> <p class="p2">We can do things in diagnostics and pandemic surveillance, and so many fields that one startup, It would be hard even to design, to start, if that could capture all of that value just as it would have been hard to design sort of transistor incorporated. Right. Right. given that, I think there's, there's a lot of reason to.</p> <p class="p2">To do an fro and then explore the space of applications. Use it as a means to explore a full space in which you'll then get [00:43:00] 10 startups. so if I'm the investor, I might like to be involved in all 10 of the new industry, right. And the way to do that would be to create a platform with which I can explore, but then I have a longer time horizon.</p> <p class="p2">Cause I have to first build the thing. Then I have to explore the application space and only then. do I get to invest in a specific verticals, right? Yeah. I think the, the two sort of tricky questions that I, I wonder about what that is one. So you mentioned like, Oh, there's 15 people in an fro, three of them go off to start a startup.</p> <p class="p2">What about those other 12 people? Like, I, I assume that they might be a little bit frustrated if, if that happens, Yeah, because like, like they, they did, they did help generate that value in it. It sort of gets into two questions of like capturing, like sort of kicking back, value generated by research in general, but like, yeah, it could, it could, it could be all 15 people, you know, we saw something [00:44:00] similar with open AI, you know, in a way, for example, converting, you know, into, into a, for profit or at least a big arm of it being, being the for-profit, and keeping all the people.</p> <p class="p2">Right. So you, you, you, you can imagine, just blanket converting. but yeah, I think, I think it's sort of, In the nature of it, that these are supposed to be things that open up such wide spaces that there's, there's sort of enough for everyone, but no, no, no one person necessarily one startup would completely capture.</p> <p class="p2">And I think that's true for clinic Comix too, for example. Right. So if you had really high throughput clinical, connectomics just, just to keep going on this example, that's a great example of perfect. It's a good thing as a good example. It's not. Depending on the details, whether this is exactly the first fro or not.</p> <p class="p2">I think it's totally, totally other issue, but, but. Connectomics there's potentially applications for AI and you know, how, how the neurocircuits work, and sort of fundamental, funding. Mental is a brain architecture and intelligence. although there's a bunch of ranges of the sort of uncertainty of exactly what that's going to be.</p> <p class="p2">So it's hard to sort of [00:45:00] know it until you see the data. There's also potentially applications for something like drug screening, where you could put a bunch of different, Kind of some CRISPR molecules or drug perturbations on, on a, on a brain and then look at what each one does to their, the synopsis or, and look at that in a, in a brain region specific way and sort of have ultra high, but connect to them based drug screening.</p> <p class="p2">Neither of those are things you can start a start up until you have connected. Right. working. but so anyway, so maybe three people would start an AI company and maybe those would be the very risk tolerant ones. and then three would start at, you know, a crisper drug company and, and, and, three would just do, do fundamental neuroscience with it and, take those capabilities and, and, and go, go back into the university system or so on and yeah.</p> <p class="p2">And start using that. Yeah. And the, the sort of the other related to. like creating value with it. there's, there's a little like uncut discomfort that like even I have [00:46:00] with, say like philanthropic or government funding, then going to fund a thing that proceeds to make a couple of people very wealthy.</p> <p class="p2">Which like, and like, there's very much arguments on both sides, right. Where it's like, it'll generate a lot of good for the world. and, and all and, and such. so, so like, I guess what would you say? I guess like, as a, as a, like, if I were a very wealthy philanthropist and I'm like, do it, like, you know, it's like, I'm just giving away money so that these people can.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, the company is a complicated thing. Right? How much, how many further rich people, you know, did the Rockefeller foundation, you know, investing in the basics of molecular biology or things like that ended up generating? I mean, I think that, I think you, I think in some way the government does want to end up is they want the widely distributed benefit.</p> <p class="p2">And I think everything that should be an SRO should have widely distributed benefits. It shouldn't just [00:47:00] be a kind of, A startup that just, just enhances one, one person. It should be something that really contributes very broadly to economic growth and understanding of the universe and all that. But it's almost inevitable.</p> <p class="p2">I think that, if you create a new industry, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna feel it going to be some more written about rich successful people in that industry. And they're probably going to be some of the people that were involved. Early and thinking about it for the longest and waiting for the right time to really enter it.</p> <p class="p2">And so, yeah, that's a really good point. I guess the, then the question would be like, how do you know, like, like what are, what are sort of a, the sniff test you use to think about whether something would have broadly distributed benefits? That's a great question. Cause it's like connect to them. It seems like fairly clear cut or, or generating sort of like a massive data set that you then open up. Feels very [00:48:00] clear. Cut. it's. We we've talked before about that, like fro is, could like scale up a process or build a proof of concept of, of a technology.</p> <p class="p2">and it, it seems like that it's less clear cut how you can be sure that those are going to, like if they succeed. Yeah. I mean, there are a few different frames on it, but I mean, I think one is, FRS could develop technologies that allow you to really reduce the cost of having some. Downstream set of capabilities.</p> <p class="p2">so, you know, if, just to give you an example, right? If, if we had, much lower costs, gene therapies available, right? So, so sometimes when drug prices are high, you know, this is basically it's recouping these very large R and D costs and then there's competition and, and, and profit and everything involved.</p> <p class="p2">you know, there was the marching squarely situation and, you know, there's a bunch of, sort of. What was that? there was, remember the details, but there [00:49:00] was some instance within which, a financially controlling entity to sort of arbitrarily bumped drug prices way high, right. A particular drug. and then w was, you know, was regarded as an evil person then, and maybe that's right.</p> <p class="p2">but anyway, there are some places I think, within the biomedical system where you can genuinely reduce costs for everyone. Right. and it's not simply that I, you know, I make this drug and I captured a bunch of value on this drug, but you know, it's really, it should be available to everyone and I'm just copying there.</p> <p class="p2">There's genuine possibility to reduce costs. So if I could reduce the cost of, of the actual manufacturing of. The viruses that you use for gene therapy, that's a, that's a process innovation. that would be, you could order as a magnitude drop the cost of gene therapy. If you could figure out what's going on, in the aging process and what are the real levers on a single, you know, biological interventions that would prevent multiple age related diseases that [00:50:00] would massively drop the cost.</p> <p class="p2">Right? So those, those are things where, Maybe even in some ways it would be threatening, to some of, some of the pharma companies, you know, that, that work on specific age related diseases, right? Because you're going to have something that, that replaced, but this is, this is what, you know, things that are broad productivity improvements.</p> <p class="p2">And I think economists and people very broadly agree that, that the science and technology innovations, For the most part. although sometimes they can be used to in a way that sort of, only benefits, a very small number of people that generally speaking there's a lot you can do, with technology that will be extremely broadly shared in terms of benefit, right?</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I do actually, like I agree with that. I'm, I'm just, I'm trying to represent as much skepticism as, as possible. Definitely. I know you agree with that.</p> <p class="p2">And actually, another thing that I have no idea about which I'm really interested in is as you're going and sort of creating this, [00:51:00] this moonshot catalog. how do you tell the difference between people who have these really big ideas who are like hardcore legit? but like maybe a little bit crazy.</p> <p class="p2">And then people who are just crackpots. Yeah, well, I don't claim to be able to do it in every field. and, and I think there's a reason why I've, I'm not trying to do a quantum gravity, fro you know, both, both, because I don't know that that's, you know, I think that's maybe better matched for just individual.</p> <p class="p2">Totally. Open-ended Sunday, you know, fun, brilliant people for 30 or 40 year long period to just do whatever they want. Right. Yeah. For quantum gravity, rather than directed, you know, research, but, But also because there's a class of problem that I think requires a sort of Einsteinian type breakthrough in fr fro is, are not, not perfect for that in terms of finding people.</p> <p class="p2">I mean, I, I find that, there's a lot of pent up need for, this is that's my preliminary feeling. and you can see there's a [00:52:00] question of prioritizing, which are the most important, but there's a huge number of. Process innovations or system building innovations that are needed across many, many fields.</p> <p class="p2">And you don't need to necessarily have things that even sound that crazy. There are some that just kind of just make sense, you know, are, are very simple. You know, we here, here in our lab, we have this measurement technology, but we, you know, we can only have the throughput of one cell, you know, every, every few weeks.</p> <p class="p2">And if we could build the system, we could get a throughput of, you know, A hundred thousand cells, you know, every month or something. Right. there are some, there's some sort of ones that are pretty obvious, or where there's an obvious inefficiency. In kind of, how things are structured. Like every, every company and lab that's that's modeling fusion reactors, and then also within the fusion reactor, each individual component of it, like the neutrons in the wall versus the Plaza and the core, those are basically modeled with different.</p> <p class="p2">Codes many of which are many [00:53:00] decades old. So there's sort of an obvious opportunity to sort of make like a CAD software for fusion, for example, you know, that the, the, it doesn't, it's not actually crazy. It's actually just really basic stuff. In some cases, I think they're ones where we'll need more roadmapping and more bringing people together to really workshop the idea, to really have people that are more expert than me say, critique each other and see what's.</p> <p class="p2">Really going on in the fields. and I also rely on a lot of outside experts. if I have someone comes with an idea, you know, for, for energy, you know, and I'm talking to people that are like former RPE program managers or things like that, that, that know more of the questions. so I think we can, we can, we can do a certain amount of, of due diligence on ideas and.</p> <p class="p2">and then there are some that are, that are really far out. you know, we both have an interest in atomically precise manufacturing, and that that's when, where we don't know the path I think, forward. and so that's maybe a pre fro that's something where you [00:54:00] need a roadmapping approach, but it's maybe not quite ready to, to just immediately do an fro.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah, no, that's, you sort of hit on a really interesting point, which is that. when we think of moonshots, it's generally like this big, exciting thing, but perhaps some of the most valuable is will actually sound incredibly boring, but the things that they'll unlock will be. Extremely exciting. yeah, I think that's true.</p> <p class="p2">And, and you have to distinguish there's there's boring. Right? So, so I think there's, there's some decoupling of exactly how much innovation is required and exactly how important something is. And also just how much brute force is required. So I think in general, our system might under weight, the importance of brute force.</p> <p class="p2">And somewhat overweight the importance of sort of creative, individual breakthrough thinking. at the same time, there are problems where I think we are bottlenecked by thinking I'm like really how to do something, not just to [00:55:00] connect them of brain, but how do you actually do activity map of entire brain?</p> <p class="p2">You actually need to get a bunch of physicists together and stuff to really figure out what's, you know, there's a level of thinking that is not very non-obvious similarly for like truly next gen fabrication. You really, really, really need to do the technology roadmapping approach. And that's a little different than the fro.</p> <p class="p2">And in some cases there may be a, as we discussed, I think in the past, there was sort of a, a continuum potentially between DARPA type programs or programs that would start within the existing systems and try to catalyze the emergence of ideas and discoveries. And then fro is, which are a bit, a bit more cut and dry.</p> <p class="p2">And in some cases, even you could think of it as boring. but just very important. how do we prevent Faros from becoming a political football? because you see this all the time where, you know, a Senator will say, well, like I'll sponsor this bill, as long as we mandate that.</p> <p class="p2">50% of the work has to happen in my particular state or [00:56:00] district. and, and I imagine that that would be counterproductive towards the goals of . so do you, do you have any sense of like how to, how to get around that</p> <p class="p2">probably much easier in philanthropic setting than governments? Although I think I'm overall, I'm, I'm sort of optimistic that, if. If the goals are made very clear, the goal is disruptive, you know, multiplicative improvements in scientific fields. that's the primary goal. It needs to be managed well.</p> <p class="p2">so it's not either about the individual peoples, if you want academic politics and also that it doesn't, doesn't become about sort of, you know, districts, congressional districts, or all sorts of other things. I think there's a certain amount of complexity, but the other, the other thing is. I think there's really amazing things to be done in all sorts of places and by all sorts of people that are not necessarily identified as, as the biggest egos or the largest cities also, although certainly there are hubs that [00:57:00] matter.</p> <p class="p2">yeah. Cool. I think so. I think those are all like the actual questions I have. Is there anything you want to talk about that we have not touched on? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, how does this fit into two things that you're thinking about, in terms of your overall analysis of the research system, then, do you think this, what is this leave unsolved as well?</p> <p class="p2">if, even if we can get some big philanthropic and government, donors. Yeah. So, so there are sort of two things that I. see it not covering. And so the, the first that you you've sort of touched on is that there are, some problems that still like don't fit into academia, but are not quite at the point where they're ready to be at fro.</p> <p class="p2">And so, they need, the, the like mindset of the fro without. Having this sort of, cut and dryness [00:58:00] that you need to sort of plunk down, like have the confidence to plunk down $50 million. so, so we need sort of a, a, what I would see as a sustainable, way of. Getting to the point of fro type projects.</p> <p class="p2">And as you know, I'm spending a lot of time with that. and then sort of a, the other thing that I've realized is that when, when people, we sort of have these discussions that are like research is broken, I think what we're actually talking about is, is sort of two really separate phenomenon. So, what we've been talking about, like Efros, Are really sort of sitting in like the Valley of death where it's like helping bridge that.</p> <p class="p2">but I think that at the same time, there there's like what I would call like the, the Einstein wouldn't get in any funding problem, which is, as you alluded to there, there are some of these things, like some of the [00:59:00] problems with research that we talk about are just about, The sort of conformity and specialization of really idea based exploratory, like completely uncertain research.</p> <p class="p2">And that's also really important, but I, I think it's what we don't do is, is, is sort of like separate those two things out and say like, these are both fall under the category of research, but are in fact. Extremely different processes. They require very different solutions. Yeah. Actually let me, let me, since you mentioned that, and since we are here together on the podcast, I agree with that and I, I have some things to say about that as well.</p> <p class="p2">So, so I think that the fro is indeed only address, or are designed to address this issue of sort of system building. problems that have a sort of catalytic nature and are a particular kind of pre-commercial stage. Right? So in some ways, [01:00:00] even though I'm so excited about borrows and how much they can unlock, because I think that this is one of two or three categories that has been, you know, under emphasized by current systems or has systems currently have struggled with it.</p> <p class="p2">there are these others. So, so I think that. The, the supporting the next Einstein and people that may have also have just be cognitively socially in any other number of ways, just different and weird and not good at writing grants. You know, not good at competing. Maybe not even good at graduating undergrad.</p> <p class="p2">Yeah. You know, I'm running a lab who are, are brilliant and because the system now. Has proliferate in terms of the number of scientists. it's very competitive and, and there is a, there's a lot of need to sort of filter people based on credentials. So there's this sort of credential there's people that don't fit with perfectly with credentials or with a sort of monoculture of who is able to get NSF grants and go through the university system and [01:01:00] get the PhD and all those different Alexey goosey has this nice blog post is oriented toward biomedical, but saying basically that in order to get through the system, you need to do 10 or 15 things simultaneously.</p> <p class="p2">Well, and also be lucky. And maybe we want to be looking for some people that are only able to do three of those things about, but are orders of magnitude better than others, then there's people even who have done well with those things, but still don't have the funding or sort of sustained ability, to, to pursue their own individual ideas over decades.</p> <p class="p2">even if they do get tenure or something, because the grant system is based on peer review and is, is sort of filtering out really new ideas, for whatever reason, There's kind of the broader issue that Michael Nielsen has talked about, which is sort of the idea that too much funding is centralized in a single organizational model.</p> <p class="p2">So particularly the NIH, the NIH grant is kind of hegemonic as, as, as a structure and as a peer review mechanism. then I think we need more [01:02:00] DARPA stuff. We probably need more darker agencies for other problems. Even though I've, I've sort of said that I think Rose can solve some problems that DARPA DARPA will struggle with.</p> <p class="p2">Likewise, DARPA walls solve problems that fro may struggle with. particularly if there's a very widely distributed expertise across the world that you need to bring together in a, some transient, interesting way, for a little bit more discovery oriented, perhaps in Faros and less deliverable oriented or team oriented.</p> <p class="p2">And then there's even bigger things we need, you know, like we need to be able to create, you know, a bell labs for energy, you know, or sort of something even bigger than fro. so yeah, I think the thing that you're, you're getting at that I is, is sort of simple, but under done is actually analyzing like what the activity is and what.</p> <p class="p2">How to best support it. Yep. Which is instead of just saying [01:03:00] like, ah, there's some research let's give some money to the research and then magical things will happen actually saying like, okay, like, like how does this work? Like what, and then what can we do for these, these specific situation? Yes. I think as you've identified.</p> <p class="p2">Like there's both on the one hand, there's the tendency to micromanage research and say, research has to do this, this with this equipment and this timescale it's entirely, this is sort of subject to milestone. And on the other hand is research is this magical thing. We have no idea. but just. Let other scientists, peer review each other, and just sort of give as much money to it as we can.</p> <p class="p2">and then we see what happens. Right. And I think neither of those, is a, is a good design philosophy, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think it involves people like thinking it's it's uncomfortable, but like, like thinking and learning about. How, how did you think then understanding how it could, how it could be different?</p> <p class="p2">[01:04:00] How it's not a it's it's a system. Kevin has felt set, said it said it well. And so in some ways it's been designed, but really our scientific systems are something that has evolved into large degree. No one has designed it. It's not. Something that's designed to be optimal is it's a, it's a emergent property of many different people's incentives.</p> <p class="p2">And, if we actually try to apply more design thinking, I think, I think that can be good as long as we're not over overconfident in saying that there's one model for everyone. Yeah. I think that the trick to, sort of fixing. Emergent systems is to like, basically like do little experiments, poking at them.</p> <p class="p2">And that's, that's very much what I see getting fro is going okay. It's like, you're not saying, Oh, we should like dismantle the NSF and have it all be . Okay. Let's do a couple of these. See what happens. That's right. It's I think it's inherently a small perturbation and it it's. And I [01:05:00] think DARPA, by the way is a similar thing.</p> <p class="p2">It's sort of dark. You wouldn't need DARPA. If everything else was already sort of efficient, right. Given that things are not perfectly efficient, Darko has all these, all these sort of this niche that it fills. I think similarly Faros, they can only exist. if you also have a huge university system and you also have companies that that doesn't make sense, otherwise it's, it's a perturbation, but as we, I think it's a perturbation in which you unlock a pretty big pressure stream sort of behind it when you open it up.</p> <p class="p2">So. Excellent. Well, I think that's, that's actually a great place to close. I guess the last question would be, Like, if people are interested in, in Faros, especially like funding or running one, what is the best way for them to reach you? Well, they can, they can talk to me or they can talk to you.</p> <p class="p2">my email has, is prominently listed on my website. Twitter is great. and that, yeah, I really interested in, people that have a kind of specificity [01:06:00] of, of, of what they want of, you know, here here's, here's what I would do, very specifically, but I'm also interested in talking to people that, See problems with the current systems and want to do something and want to learn about, other highly specific fro ideas that others might have, and how to enable those.</p> <p class="p3"> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Benjamin Reinhardt, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Focusing on Research with Adam Marblestone [Idea Machines #33]
Pub date: 2020-10-26

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-is-your-life-in-silicon-valley-the-IlsLvku8KYg/">This is Your Life in Silicon Valley</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/87a3c43bc5884f9d88ead10409d056c0/">Is Education As We Know it Finished (Guest: Ryan Delk, CEO/Co-Founder, Primer)?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/87a3c43bc5884f9d88ead10409d056c0/&notes=Is Education As We Know it Finished (Guest: Ryan Delk, CEO/Co-Founder, Primer)?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-is-your-life-in-silicon-valley-the-7Pz5F2UI_3u-IlsLvku8KYg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>The pandemic has closed schools and massively affected the way we think of traditional education. How will future generations be affected by the sudden change in how we learn? We asked the CEO of Primer, Ryan Delk about this and more. </p><p>Many parents are struggling with how to cope with the sudden changes surrounding the pandemic. Kids are at home all the time, and most public school districts in the state of CA (and many other states) are fully remote.  This is causing parents to rethink education choices in general - public vs. private, homeschooling vs online learning, and numerous other logistics considerations.</p><p>Ryan Delk is an expert on this subject. His startup - Primer is making the process of transitioning to homeschooling easier for parents. We hear Ryan's perspective on homeschool vs 'traditional' school, state by state regulations, and what it takes to raise kids during the age of the pandemic.</p><p>We talk to Ryan about colleges, sports, building a sense of collegiality with classmates and the effect of constant Zoom on kids. We ask about social skills for kids and how they might change, the importance of STEM and numerous other topics.</p><p>If you're a parent and you're wading through this period, you don't want to miss this episode of TIYLISV. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bold Italic , which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-is-your-life-in-silicon-valley-the-IlsLvku8KYg/">This is Your Life in Silicon Valley</a> (LS 44 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/87a3c43bc5884f9d88ead10409d056c0/">Is Education As We Know it Finished (Guest: Ryan Delk, CEO/Co-Founder, Primer)?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-10-19<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/87a3c43bc5884f9d88ead10409d056c0/&notes=Is Education As We Know it Finished (Guest: Ryan Delk, CEO/Co-Founder, Primer)?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-is-your-life-in-silicon-valley-the-7Pz5F2UI_3u-IlsLvku8KYg.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>The pandemic has closed schools and massively affected the way we think of traditional education. How will future generations be affected by the sudden change in how we learn? We asked the CEO of Primer, Ryan Delk about this and more. </p><p>Many parents are struggling with how to cope with the sudden changes surrounding the pandemic. Kids are at home all the time, and most public school districts in the state of CA (and many other states) are fully remote.  This is causing parents to rethink education choices in general - public vs. private, homeschooling vs online learning, and numerous other logistics considerations.</p><p>Ryan Delk is an expert on this subject. His startup - Primer is making the process of transitioning to homeschooling easier for parents. We hear Ryan's perspective on homeschool vs 'traditional' school, state by state regulations, and what it takes to raise kids during the age of the pandemic.</p><p>We talk to Ryan about colleges, sports, building a sense of collegiality with classmates and the effect of constant Zoom on kids. We ask about social skills for kids and how they might change, the importance of STEM and numerous other topics.</p><p>If you're a parent and you're wading through this period, you don't want to miss this episode of TIYLISV. </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Bold Italic , which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: This is Your Life in Silicon Valley
Episode: Is Education As We Know it Finished (Guest: Ryan Delk, CEO/Co-Founder, Primer)?
Pub date: 2020-10-19

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/87a3c43bc5884f9d88ead10409d056c0/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:19:26 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>The Bold Italic </author>



            
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            <title>Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/subject-to-change-russell-hogg-gX_hxb01Nij/">Subject to Change</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/726c2a5d354c4b29b8c653d80f1890b7/">Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-09-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/726c2a5d354c4b29b8c653d80f1890b7/&notes=Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/subject-to-change-russell-hogg-zustJ_N7jpE-gX_hxb01Nij.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode we discussed two Korean films. Parasite and Burning. On the podcast in this episode was Alex Tabarrok who was defending the thesis he outlined in his wonderful blog piece, <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/06/the-gaslighting-of-parasite.html">The Gaslighting of Parasite</a>. Joining me to throw rocks at his theory were Chicago philosopher Agnes Callard and her son Abe.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Russell Hogg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/subject-to-change-russell-hogg-gX_hxb01Nij/">Subject to Change</a> (LS 40 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/726c2a5d354c4b29b8c653d80f1890b7/">Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-09-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/726c2a5d354c4b29b8c653d80f1890b7/&notes=Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/subject-to-change-russell-hogg-zustJ_N7jpE-gX_hxb01Nij.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode we discussed two Korean films. Parasite and Burning. On the podcast in this episode was Alex Tabarrok who was defending the thesis he outlined in his wonderful blog piece, <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/06/the-gaslighting-of-parasite.html">The Gaslighting of Parasite</a>. Joining me to throw rocks at his theory were Chicago philosopher Agnes Callard and her son Abe.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Russell Hogg, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Subject to Change
Episode: Alex Tabarrok versus the People (Parasite and Burning reviewed)
Pub date: 2020-09-02

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            <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2020 04:18:50 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Russell Hogg</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:26:37</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Russell Hogg</itunes:author>
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            <title>Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4e6aef5f05444c39bc54d09a6860786</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chinatalk-jordan-schneider-Jz4DAyqm9ZV/">ChinaTalk</a> (LS 39 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4e6aef5f05444c39bc54d09a6860786/">Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d4e6aef5f05444c39bc54d09a6860786/&notes=Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chinatalk-jordan-schneider-uveWJsjkdU--Jz4DAyqm9ZV.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage">Tanner Greer</a> of the blog <a href="http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/">Scholarstage</a> joins the show in a wide-ranging discussion touching on Xi's ideology, incentives in western China-watching, Mormons in China, why it's worth studying classical Chinese history, and AI-assisted writing. </p> <p>ChinaTalk has hit its 100th episode! That's two and a half full workweeks of informed, respectful, and hopefully entertaining conversation on everything China. As the media industry has cratered, spaces for intelligent and open discussion on China that live outside of paywalls basically don't exist anymore. Since COVID has locked me out of China and forced me to move to the US, my living expenses have gone up, and spending dozens of hours on this podcast is looking increasingly unsustainable. Right now, I make less than $5 an hour producing this show. If you'd like to see ChinaTalk continue to come out weekly,</p> <p>Please consider supporting me at <a href="glow.fm/chinatalk">glow.fm/chinatalk</a></p> <p>I'm also thinking about launching some member rewards, like live zoom, tapings of episodes where audience members can ask questions as well as a book club. Thanks so much!</p> <p>Outtro music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYcTcxIxXY">功夫胖 KUNGFUPEN 🔥🔥🔥 热得冒烟</a></p> <p>Jordan</p> <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><p> See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jordan Schneider, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/chinatalk-jordan-schneider-Jz4DAyqm9ZV/">ChinaTalk</a> (LS 39 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/d4e6aef5f05444c39bc54d09a6860786/">Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/d4e6aef5f05444c39bc54d09a6860786/&notes=Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/chinatalk-jordan-schneider-uveWJsjkdU--Jz4DAyqm9ZV.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage">Tanner Greer</a> of the blog <a href="http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/">Scholarstage</a> joins the show in a wide-ranging discussion touching on Xi's ideology, incentives in western China-watching, Mormons in China, why it's worth studying classical Chinese history, and AI-assisted writing. </p> <p>ChinaTalk has hit its 100th episode! That's two and a half full workweeks of informed, respectful, and hopefully entertaining conversation on everything China. As the media industry has cratered, spaces for intelligent and open discussion on China that live outside of paywalls basically don't exist anymore. Since COVID has locked me out of China and forced me to move to the US, my living expenses have gone up, and spending dozens of hours on this podcast is looking increasingly unsustainable. Right now, I make less than $5 an hour producing this show. If you'd like to see ChinaTalk continue to come out weekly,</p> <p>Please consider supporting me at <a href="glow.fm/chinatalk">glow.fm/chinatalk</a></p> <p>I'm also thinking about launching some member rewards, like live zoom, tapings of episodes where audience members can ask questions as well as a book club. Thanks so much!</p> <p>Outtro music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYcTcxIxXY">功夫胖 KUNGFUPEN 🔥🔥🔥 热得冒烟</a></p> <p>Jordan</p> <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><p> See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jordan Schneider, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: ChinaTalk
Episode: Scholarstage on Xi, War in Taiwan, the CCP Toolkit, and the Chinese Tradition
Pub date: 2020-08-18

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            <author>Jordan Schneider</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Jordan Schneider</itunes:author>
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            <title>#010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/people-of-growth-vöxtur-f_3cIj6Jvh5/">People of Growth</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663/">#010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663/&notes=#010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/vöxtur-people-of-growth-hirs5BKfHg1-f_3cIj6Jvh5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="//twitter.com/delk">Ryan Delk</a> is the CEO and co-founder of <a href="//withprimer.com">Primer</a>, a startup that is going to change the world of homeschooling. In this conversation, Nate and Ryan discuss his career in technology, Primer, and how to get hired at a startup.</p>
<p>Follow Ryan:</p>
<p><a href="//www.twitter.com/delk">Twitter</a></p>
<p><a href="//www.withprimer.com">Primer</a></p>
<p>ryan@withprimer.com</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Background music: &nbsp;<a href="https://josephmcdade.com/music">Drifting Korners - Joseph McDade</a></p>

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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/people-of-growth-vöxtur-f_3cIj6Jvh5/">People of Growth</a> (LS 26 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663/">#010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-08-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663/&notes=#010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/vöxtur-people-of-growth-hirs5BKfHg1-f_3cIj6Jvh5.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="//twitter.com/delk">Ryan Delk</a> is the CEO and co-founder of <a href="//withprimer.com">Primer</a>, a startup that is going to change the world of homeschooling. In this conversation, Nate and Ryan discuss his career in technology, Primer, and how to get hired at a startup.</p>
<p>Follow Ryan:</p>
<p><a href="//www.twitter.com/delk">Twitter</a></p>
<p><a href="//www.withprimer.com">Primer</a></p>
<p>ryan@withprimer.com</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Background music: &nbsp;<a href="https://josephmcdade.com/music">Drifting Korners - Joseph McDade</a></p>

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Podcast: People of Growth
Episode: #010 - Ryan Delk: On Homeschooling with Primer and How to Get Hired at a Startup
Pub date: 2020-08-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/e5f5da78f8cd45778b8b429258f0c663/

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            <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2020 14:01:10 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Vöxtur</author>



            
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            <title>Ryan Delk on the future of education</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/2-cent-dad-podcast-mike-sudyk-EVqRGuHm5sv/">2 Cent Dad Podcast</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f4a5417712304ab8ac790cb2e03308b6/">Ryan Delk on the future of education</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f4a5417712304ab8ac790cb2e03308b6/&notes=Ryan Delk on the future of education">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/2-cent-dad-podcast-mike-sudyk-PXw82kp3RKs-EVqRGuHm5sv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What is the future of education? Interested in homeschool? These are some of the topics we cover with Ryan Delk.

Ryan Delk is the founder and CEO of Primer (https://www.withprimer.com/)
Ryan can be found on twitter at https://twitter.com/delk<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Mike Sudyk, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/2-cent-dad-podcast-mike-sudyk-EVqRGuHm5sv/">2 Cent Dad Podcast</a> (LS 29 &middot; TOP 10% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f4a5417712304ab8ac790cb2e03308b6/">Ryan Delk on the future of education</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f4a5417712304ab8ac790cb2e03308b6/&notes=Ryan Delk on the future of education">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/2-cent-dad-podcast-mike-sudyk-PXw82kp3RKs-EVqRGuHm5sv.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What is the future of education? Interested in homeschool? These are some of the topics we cover with Ryan Delk.

Ryan Delk is the founder and CEO of Primer (https://www.withprimer.com/)
Ryan can be found on twitter at https://twitter.com/delk<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Mike Sudyk, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Ryan Delk on the future of education
Pub date: 2020-07-21

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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2020 14:03:42 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Mike Sudyk</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>2 Cent Dad Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:author>Mike Sudyk</itunes:author>
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            <title>#32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-knowledge-project-shane-parrish-RoXxgNCyDmE/">The Knowledge Project</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2499ac3bbfc34abe9311baefcf2e0414/">#32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-05-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2499ac3bbfc34abe9311baefcf2e0414/&notes=#32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-knowledge-project-shane-parrish-z7Z_DdBAhOR-RoXxgNCyDmE.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On this episode of the Knowledge Project Podcast, I chat with Patrick Collison, co-founder and CEO of the leading online payment processing company, <a href="https://stripe.com/">Stripe.</a> If you’ve purchased <em>anything</em> online recently, there’s a good chance that Stripe facilitated the transaction.</p> <p>What is now an organization with over a thousand employees and handling tens of billions of dollars of online purchases every year, began as a small side experiment while Patrick and his brother John were going to college.  </p> <p>During our conversation, Patrick shares the details of their unlikely journey and some of the hard-earned wisdom he picked up along the way. I hope you have something handy to write with because the nuggets per minute in this episode are off the charts. Patrick was so open and generous with his responses that I’m really excited for you to hear what he has to say.</p> <p>Here are just a few of the things we cover:</p> <ul> <li>The biggest (and most valuable) mistakes Patrick made in the early days of Stripe and how they helped him get better</li> <li>The characteristics that Patrick looks for in a new hire to fit and contribute to the Stripe company culture</li> <li>What compelled he and his brother to move forward with the early concept of Stripe, even though on paper it was doomed to fail from the start</li> <li>The gaps Patrick saw in the market that dozens of other processing companies were missing — and how he capitalized on them</li> <li>The lessons Patrick learned from scaling Stripe from two employees (he and his brother) to nearly 1,000 today</li> <li>How he evaluates the upsides and potential dangers of speculative positions within the company</li> <li>How his Irish upbringing influenced his ability to argue and disagree without taking offense (and how we can all be a little more “Irish”)</li> <li>The power of finding the right peer group in your social and professional circles and how impactful and influential it can be in determining where you end up.</li> <li>The 4 ways Patrick has modified his decision making process over the last 5 years and how it’s helped him develop as a person and as a business leader (this part alone is worth the listen)</li> <li>Patrick’s unique approach to books and how he chooses what he’s going to spend his time reading</li> </ul> <p>...life in Silicon Valley, Baumol’s cost disease, and so, so much more.</p> <p>Patrick truly is one of the warmest, humblest and down-to-earth people I’ve had the pleasure to speak with and I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation together. I hope you will too!</p> <p><strong>Go Premium:</strong> Members get early access, ad-free episodes, hand-edited transcripts, searchable transcripts, member-only episodes, and more. Sign up at: <a href="https://fs.blog/membership/">https://fs.blog/membership/</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Every Sunday our newsletter shares timeless insights and ideas that you can use at work and home. Add it to your inbox: <a href="https://fs.blog/newsletter/">https://fs.blog/newsletter/</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Follow Shane on Twitter at: <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneAParrish">https://twitter.com/ShaneAParrish</a></p> <p> </p>
<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Shane Parrish, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-knowledge-project-shane-parrish-RoXxgNCyDmE/">The Knowledge Project</a> (LS 69 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2499ac3bbfc34abe9311baefcf2e0414/">#32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-05-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2499ac3bbfc34abe9311baefcf2e0414/&notes=#32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-knowledge-project-shane-parrish-z7Z_DdBAhOR-RoXxgNCyDmE.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On this episode of the Knowledge Project Podcast, I chat with Patrick Collison, co-founder and CEO of the leading online payment processing company, <a href="https://stripe.com/">Stripe.</a> If you’ve purchased <em>anything</em> online recently, there’s a good chance that Stripe facilitated the transaction.</p> <p>What is now an organization with over a thousand employees and handling tens of billions of dollars of online purchases every year, began as a small side experiment while Patrick and his brother John were going to college.  </p> <p>During our conversation, Patrick shares the details of their unlikely journey and some of the hard-earned wisdom he picked up along the way. I hope you have something handy to write with because the nuggets per minute in this episode are off the charts. Patrick was so open and generous with his responses that I’m really excited for you to hear what he has to say.</p> <p>Here are just a few of the things we cover:</p> <ul> <li>The biggest (and most valuable) mistakes Patrick made in the early days of Stripe and how they helped him get better</li> <li>The characteristics that Patrick looks for in a new hire to fit and contribute to the Stripe company culture</li> <li>What compelled he and his brother to move forward with the early concept of Stripe, even though on paper it was doomed to fail from the start</li> <li>The gaps Patrick saw in the market that dozens of other processing companies were missing — and how he capitalized on them</li> <li>The lessons Patrick learned from scaling Stripe from two employees (he and his brother) to nearly 1,000 today</li> <li>How he evaluates the upsides and potential dangers of speculative positions within the company</li> <li>How his Irish upbringing influenced his ability to argue and disagree without taking offense (and how we can all be a little more “Irish”)</li> <li>The power of finding the right peer group in your social and professional circles and how impactful and influential it can be in determining where you end up.</li> <li>The 4 ways Patrick has modified his decision making process over the last 5 years and how it’s helped him develop as a person and as a business leader (this part alone is worth the listen)</li> <li>Patrick’s unique approach to books and how he chooses what he’s going to spend his time reading</li> </ul> <p>...life in Silicon Valley, Baumol’s cost disease, and so, so much more.</p> <p>Patrick truly is one of the warmest, humblest and down-to-earth people I’ve had the pleasure to speak with and I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation together. I hope you will too!</p> <p><strong>Go Premium:</strong> Members get early access, ad-free episodes, hand-edited transcripts, searchable transcripts, member-only episodes, and more. Sign up at: <a href="https://fs.blog/membership/">https://fs.blog/membership/</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Every Sunday our newsletter shares timeless insights and ideas that you can use at work and home. Add it to your inbox: <a href="https://fs.blog/newsletter/">https://fs.blog/newsletter/</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Follow Shane on Twitter at: <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneAParrish">https://twitter.com/ShaneAParrish</a></p> <p> </p>
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Podcast: The Knowledge Project
Episode: #32 Patrick Collison: Earning Your Stripes
Pub date: 2018-05-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2499ac3bbfc34abe9311baefcf2e0414/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:29:07 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>#353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e1191c2617584783acdeea512c101dd1/">#353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-12-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e1191c2617584783acdeea512c101dd1/&notes=#353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><em>"If people around you don't think what you're doing is a bit strange, maybe it's not strange enough."</em></strong> <em>— Patrick Collison</em></p><p>Patrick Collison (<a href="https://twitter.com/patrickc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@patrickc</a>) is chief executive officer and co-founder of <a href="https://stripe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stripe</a>, a technology company that builds economic infrastructure for the internet.</p><p>After experiencing firsthand how difficult it was to set up an online business, Patrick and his brother <a href="https://twitter.com/collision" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John</a> started Stripe in 2010. Their goal was to make accepting payments on the internet simpler and more inclusive. Today, Stripe powers millions of online businesses around the world.</p><p>Prior to Stripe, Patrick co-founded Auctomatic, which was acquired by Live Current Media for $5 million in March 2008. In 2016, he was named a Presidential Ambassador for Global Entrepreneurship by President Obama. Originally from Limerick, Ireland, Patrick now lives in San Francisco where Stripe is headquartered.</p><p>Also, as you can tell from seeing just a selected segment of his reading list shared in the show notes on tim.blog/podcast, he's one of the most well-read people I know. Please enjoy!</p><p><a href="https://tim.blog/2018/12/20/patrick-collison/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Click here for the show notes for this episode.</em></a></p><p><strong>This podcast is brought to you by </strong><a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>99designs</strong></a>, the global creative platform that makes it easy for designers and clients to work together create designs they love. Its creative process has become the go-to solution for businesses, agencies, and individuals, and I have used it for years to help with display advertising and illustrations and to rapid prototype the cover for <em>The Tao of Seneca</em>. Whether your business needs a logo, website design, business card, or anything you can imagine, check out <a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>99designs</strong></a>.</p><p>You can work with multiple designers at once to get a bunch of different ideas, or hire the perfect designer for your project based based on their style and industry specialization. It's simple to review concepts and leave feedback so you'll end up with a design that you're happy with. <a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Click this link and get a free $99 upgrade</strong></a>.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This podcast is also brought to you by </strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>. </strong>I get asked all the time, "If you could only use one supplement, what would it be?" 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            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S/">The Tim Ferriss Show</a> (LS 81 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/e1191c2617584783acdeea512c101dd1/">#353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-12-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/e1191c2617584783acdeea512c101dd1/&notes=#353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tim-ferriss-show-tim-ferriss-7NwMpUz5o0S.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><strong><em>"If people around you don't think what you're doing is a bit strange, maybe it's not strange enough."</em></strong> <em>— Patrick Collison</em></p><p>Patrick Collison (<a href="https://twitter.com/patrickc/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@patrickc</a>) is chief executive officer and co-founder of <a href="https://stripe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stripe</a>, a technology company that builds economic infrastructure for the internet.</p><p>After experiencing firsthand how difficult it was to set up an online business, Patrick and his brother <a href="https://twitter.com/collision" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John</a> started Stripe in 2010. Their goal was to make accepting payments on the internet simpler and more inclusive. Today, Stripe powers millions of online businesses around the world.</p><p>Prior to Stripe, Patrick co-founded Auctomatic, which was acquired by Live Current Media for $5 million in March 2008. In 2016, he was named a Presidential Ambassador for Global Entrepreneurship by President Obama. Originally from Limerick, Ireland, Patrick now lives in San Francisco where Stripe is headquartered.</p><p>Also, as you can tell from seeing just a selected segment of his reading list shared in the show notes on tim.blog/podcast, he's one of the most well-read people I know. Please enjoy!</p><p><a href="https://tim.blog/2018/12/20/patrick-collison/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Click here for the show notes for this episode.</em></a></p><p><strong>This podcast is brought to you by </strong><a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>99designs</strong></a>, the global creative platform that makes it easy for designers and clients to work together create designs they love. Its creative process has become the go-to solution for businesses, agencies, and individuals, and I have used it for years to help with display advertising and illustrations and to rapid prototype the cover for <em>The Tao of Seneca</em>. Whether your business needs a logo, website design, business card, or anything you can imagine, check out <a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>99designs</strong></a>.</p><p>You can work with multiple designers at once to get a bunch of different ideas, or hire the perfect designer for your project based based on their style and industry specialization. It's simple to review concepts and leave feedback so you'll end up with a design that you're happy with. <a href="http://99designs.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Click this link and get a free $99 upgrade</strong></a>.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This podcast is also brought to you by </strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>. </strong>I get asked all the time, "If you could only use one supplement, what would it be?" My answer is, inevitably, <a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>. </strong>It is my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in <em>The 4-Hour Body</em> and did not get paid to do so. <strong>As a listener of The Tim Ferriss Show, you'll get a free 20-count travel pack (valued at $100) with your first order at </strong><a href="https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>AthleticGreens.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>***</p><p><strong>If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tim-ferriss-show/id863897795?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>leaving a short&nbsp;review&nbsp;on Apple Podcasts</strong></a><strong>/iTunes?</strong>&nbsp;It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the&nbsp;reviews!</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests, please visit</strong> <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at </strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/friday</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For transcripts of episodes, go to </strong><a href="http://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/transcripts</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Interested in sponsoring the podcast? 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Podcast: The Tim Ferriss Show
Episode: #353: Patrick Collison — CEO of Stripe
Pub date: 2018-12-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/e1191c2617584783acdeea512c101dd1/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:28:55 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <itunes:author>Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig</itunes:author>
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            <title>John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-grind-wwwstartupgrindcom-gVrtFzLi1D-/">Startup Grind</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f/">John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-09-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f/&notes=John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-grind-wwwstartupgrindcom-pRivG1W4cwE-gVrtFzLi1D-.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Startup Grind Global Conference 2019</p><p>About the speakers:<br />John, and his brother Patrick Collison, started Stripe, the global technology company building the economic infrastructure for the internet, in 2010 while John was studying physics at Harvard. Their goal was to make accepting payments online simpler and more inclusive, after learning firsthand how difficult it was. Today, the 1200-person (and growing) Stripe team powers online businesses around the world. Prior to Stripe, John co-founded Auctomatic, which was acquired by Live Current Media in March 2008. Originally from Limerick, Ireland, John lives in San Francisco, California, where Stripe is based.</p><p>Ashlee Vance is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek magazine. He's written dozens of cover and feature stories and hosts the Emmy-nominated TV show "Hello World." Vance is also an author and wrote the recent best-selling biography on Elon Musk.</p><p>GLOBAL CONFERENCE: <a href="https://www.startupgrind.com/conference/">https://www.startupgrind.com/conference/</a></p><p>READ THE BLOG: <a href="https://medium.com/startup-grind">https://medium.com/startup-grind</a><br />TWITTER: <a href="https://twitter.com/StartupGrind">https://twitter.com/StartupGrind</a><br />FACEBOOK: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/StartupGrind/">https://www.facebook.com/StartupGrind/</a><br />INSTAGRAM: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/startup/">https://www.instagram.com/startup/</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from www.startupgrind.com, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-grind-wwwstartupgrindcom-gVrtFzLi1D-/">Startup Grind</a> (LS 37 &middot; TOP 2.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f/">John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-09-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f/&notes=John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/startup-grind-wwwstartupgrindcom-pRivG1W4cwE-gVrtFzLi1D-.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Startup Grind Global Conference 2019</p><p>About the speakers:<br />John, and his brother Patrick Collison, started Stripe, the global technology company building the economic infrastructure for the internet, in 2010 while John was studying physics at Harvard. Their goal was to make accepting payments online simpler and more inclusive, after learning firsthand how difficult it was. Today, the 1200-person (and growing) Stripe team powers online businesses around the world. Prior to Stripe, John co-founded Auctomatic, which was acquired by Live Current Media in March 2008. Originally from Limerick, Ireland, John lives in San Francisco, California, where Stripe is based.</p><p>Ashlee Vance is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek magazine. He's written dozens of cover and feature stories and hosts the Emmy-nominated TV show "Hello World." Vance is also an author and wrote the recent best-selling biography on Elon Musk.</p><p>GLOBAL CONFERENCE: <a href="https://www.startupgrind.com/conference/">https://www.startupgrind.com/conference/</a></p><p>READ THE BLOG: <a href="https://medium.com/startup-grind">https://medium.com/startup-grind</a><br />TWITTER: <a href="https://twitter.com/StartupGrind">https://twitter.com/StartupGrind</a><br />FACEBOOK: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/StartupGrind/">https://www.facebook.com/StartupGrind/</a><br />INSTAGRAM: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/startup/">https://www.instagram.com/startup/</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from www.startupgrind.com, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Startup Grind
Episode: John Collison (Co-founder + President, Stripe) - The Case for Optimism.
Pub date: 2019-09-13

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2689449401014e5bb509d8f16313987f/

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            <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:28:45 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>www.startupgrind.com</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Startup Grind</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:27:47</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>www.startupgrind.com</itunes:author>
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            <title>Tyler Cowen: Production Function</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7/">Tyler Cowen: Production Function</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7/&notes=Tyler Cowen: Production Function">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p> </p> <p>Tyler Cowen is an economics professor at George Mason University. He runs the Mercatus Center, which bridges the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems. He’s published a new post every day for the past 17 years on his blog called Marginal Revolution, where he writes about economics, arts, culture, food, and globalization. Beyond that, he also writes for Bloomberg and hosts his own podcast called Conversations with Tyler. Tyler ends every episode of his podcast asking about other people’s production function. How do you get so much done? What’s the secret sauce of all that you’ve accomplished? This episode is entirely devoted to that question. But this time, I’m asking Tyler. We started by talking about why there aren’t more Tyler Cowens in the world. Then, we moved to Tyler’s process for writing, such as choosing article topics and editing his work. Later in the podcast, we discussed Tyler’s process for choosing friends, why he would travel across the world to visit a new country for just ten hours, and what he’s learned from high-powered people like Peter Thiel and Patrick Collison.</p> <p> </p> <p>____________________________</p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>2:40 - What Tyler considers his compounding advantage and where he got it from</p> <p>5:56 - Why being born as an intelligent person is not as important as developing knowledge</p> <p>8:23 - How Tyler maximizes the value of his consumption and minimizes the drawbacks</p> <p>9:19 - What draws Tyler to the people he likes spending time with, and what he likes best about their friendship</p> <p>12:33 - Why Tyler feels that the way he has lived his life has meant has not given anything up</p> <p>15:35 - How the fundamentals of productivity came intuitively to Tyler</p> <p>17:41 - Why Tyler writes in his particular style not by choice, but by necessity</p> <p>22:19 - Why the things in Tyler's life that bind his output aren't what you think</p> <p>24:06 - How to develop new ideas while staying focused on the subject and not getting tangled</p> <p>27:36 - Why Tyler sees art as one of the most important and beneficial things you can spend your time and money on</p> <p>32:41 - What writers can learn about inspiration and consistency from musicians and visual artists</p> <p>37:16 - Why Peter Thiel has impacted Tyler so deeply and why Tyler believes he's one of the greatest thinkers of our time</p> <p>40:30 - How Tyler is able to extract more from his reading than other people do</p> <p>45:44 - How understanding most other people's intelligence is higher than his in most fields gave Tyler an edge over other thinkers</p> <p>49:00 - Why Tyler sees a new visibility of talent in people and how he is using this visibility</p> <p>55:24 - How Tyler constructs his interviews to maximize the freedom of his guests to speak freely on what they love</p> <p>1:00:03 - How to develop skills as a teacher and where Tyler believes the strengths of a good teacher lie</p> <p>1:03:34 - Why the novelty and beauty of visiting other cultures excites Tyler so much</p> <p>1:07:18 - How Tyler makes the most out of his travels</p> <p>1:13:32 - Why sitting in a suboptimal seat at a concert may give you worse sound but a better understanding of the music</p> <p>1:16:55 - Why knowledge workers are often not motivated to improve their skills</p> <p>1:20:48 - Why Tyler still responds to every email and loves it</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7/">Tyler Cowen: Production Function</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-20<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7/&notes=Tyler Cowen: Production Function">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p> </p> <p>Tyler Cowen is an economics professor at George Mason University. He runs the Mercatus Center, which bridges the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems. He’s published a new post every day for the past 17 years on his blog called Marginal Revolution, where he writes about economics, arts, culture, food, and globalization. Beyond that, he also writes for Bloomberg and hosts his own podcast called Conversations with Tyler. Tyler ends every episode of his podcast asking about other people’s production function. How do you get so much done? What’s the secret sauce of all that you’ve accomplished? This episode is entirely devoted to that question. But this time, I’m asking Tyler. We started by talking about why there aren’t more Tyler Cowens in the world. Then, we moved to Tyler’s process for writing, such as choosing article topics and editing his work. Later in the podcast, we discussed Tyler’s process for choosing friends, why he would travel across the world to visit a new country for just ten hours, and what he’s learned from high-powered people like Peter Thiel and Patrick Collison.</p> <p> </p> <p>____________________________</p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>2:40 - What Tyler considers his compounding advantage and where he got it from</p> <p>5:56 - Why being born as an intelligent person is not as important as developing knowledge</p> <p>8:23 - How Tyler maximizes the value of his consumption and minimizes the drawbacks</p> <p>9:19 - What draws Tyler to the people he likes spending time with, and what he likes best about their friendship</p> <p>12:33 - Why Tyler feels that the way he has lived his life has meant has not given anything up</p> <p>15:35 - How the fundamentals of productivity came intuitively to Tyler</p> <p>17:41 - Why Tyler writes in his particular style not by choice, but by necessity</p> <p>22:19 - Why the things in Tyler's life that bind his output aren't what you think</p> <p>24:06 - How to develop new ideas while staying focused on the subject and not getting tangled</p> <p>27:36 - Why Tyler sees art as one of the most important and beneficial things you can spend your time and money on</p> <p>32:41 - What writers can learn about inspiration and consistency from musicians and visual artists</p> <p>37:16 - Why Peter Thiel has impacted Tyler so deeply and why Tyler believes he's one of the greatest thinkers of our time</p> <p>40:30 - How Tyler is able to extract more from his reading than other people do</p> <p>45:44 - How understanding most other people's intelligence is higher than his in most fields gave Tyler an edge over other thinkers</p> <p>49:00 - Why Tyler sees a new visibility of talent in people and how he is using this visibility</p> <p>55:24 - How Tyler constructs his interviews to maximize the freedom of his guests to speak freely on what they love</p> <p>1:00:03 - How to develop skills as a teacher and where Tyler believes the strengths of a good teacher lie</p> <p>1:03:34 - Why the novelty and beauty of visiting other cultures excites Tyler so much</p> <p>1:07:18 - How Tyler makes the most out of his travels</p> <p>1:13:32 - Why sitting in a suboptimal seat at a concert may give you worse sound but a better understanding of the music</p> <p>1:16:55 - Why knowledge workers are often not motivated to improve their skills</p> <p>1:20:48 - Why Tyler still responds to every email and loves it</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: North Star Podcast
Episode: Tyler Cowen: Production Function
Pub date: 2020-07-20

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b8788b463e284daf8d09409243bc00a7/

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            <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:03:30 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>David Perell</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>01:26:52</itunes:duration>
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            <title>John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7dd80b6b361e4d1ab90e23b56083e687/">John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7dd80b6b361e4d1ab90e23b56083e687/&notes=John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is John Collison, the Co-Founder of the digital payments company Stripe. Stripe’s mission is to increase the GDP of the internet, a lofty and deeply interesting pursuit. John is clearly a voracious learner across business and investing, which you’ll hear instantly. He started Stripe with his brother Patrick when he was just 19 years old, and has grown it to, at last valuation, a $36B business. In our conversation, we discuss conglomerates, the internet economy, the power of writing, and why board members are like Pokémon characters, each with different powers. It’s a lively and wide-ranging conversation with one of the entrepreneurs I’ve most enjoyed speaking with. Please enjoy.</p> <p> </p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>(1:30) – (First question) – Interest in industrial conglomerates</p> <p>(9:10) – Their thinking on acquisitions vs starting new companies</p> <p>(11:42) – How the payment landscape looked when Stripe was started</p> <p>(15:55) – View on the internet economy</p> <p>(20:09) – Exciting possibilities for the future of the internet economy</p> <p>(22:11) – The forces of size vs speed among startups</p> <p>(26:53) – Driving reasons why employees choose Stripe starting with clear communication</p> <p>(28:55) – Tips for better internal communications</p> <p>(30:09) – The importance of rigor in Stripe’s corporate culture</p> <p>(32:15) – Investors and investing styles that are most intriguing to him</p> <p>(36:02) – Teaching vs experiencing business lessons</p> <p>(37:56) – Lessons from going to market with new ideas</p> <p>(50:58) – Allowing teams to explore new ideas at Stripe</p> <p>(44:11) – Best startup companies to study to understand the history of this space</p> <p>             (44:52) – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Softwar-Intimate-Portrait-Ellison-Oracle/dp/0743225058"> Softwar: An Intimate Portrait of Larry Ellison and Oracle</a></p> <p>             (48:18) – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mark-Robichaux/dp/047170637X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1592264875&amp;sr=1-1"> Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the Rise of the Modern Cable Business</a></p> <p>(48:43) – Infrastructures of internet businesses that are missing</p> <p>(52:03) – Does general accounting practices need to change to capture the true value of a company like Stripe</p> <p>(1:01:53) – Shared playbooks in Silicon Valley</p> <p>(1:02:02) – The transition to the no code movement</p> <p>(1:08:22) – Other businesses that pique his interest outside of software</p> <p>(1:10:21) – Future trends that excite him</p> <p>(1:11:10) – First memory when he felt like he was participating in the tech economy</p> <p>(1:12:46 – The role of board members</p> <p>(1:15:48) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him</p> <p>(1:18:49) – Advice for young people</p> <p>Learn More</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>. </p> <p>Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a></p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7dd80b6b361e4d1ab90e23b56083e687/">John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7dd80b6b361e4d1ab90e23b56083e687/&notes=John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is John Collison, the Co-Founder of the digital payments company Stripe. Stripe’s mission is to increase the GDP of the internet, a lofty and deeply interesting pursuit. John is clearly a voracious learner across business and investing, which you’ll hear instantly. He started Stripe with his brother Patrick when he was just 19 years old, and has grown it to, at last valuation, a $36B business. In our conversation, we discuss conglomerates, the internet economy, the power of writing, and why board members are like Pokémon characters, each with different powers. It’s a lively and wide-ranging conversation with one of the entrepreneurs I’ve most enjoyed speaking with. Please enjoy.</p> <p> </p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>(1:30) – (First question) – Interest in industrial conglomerates</p> <p>(9:10) – Their thinking on acquisitions vs starting new companies</p> <p>(11:42) – How the payment landscape looked when Stripe was started</p> <p>(15:55) – View on the internet economy</p> <p>(20:09) – Exciting possibilities for the future of the internet economy</p> <p>(22:11) – The forces of size vs speed among startups</p> <p>(26:53) – Driving reasons why employees choose Stripe starting with clear communication</p> <p>(28:55) – Tips for better internal communications</p> <p>(30:09) – The importance of rigor in Stripe’s corporate culture</p> <p>(32:15) – Investors and investing styles that are most intriguing to him</p> <p>(36:02) – Teaching vs experiencing business lessons</p> <p>(37:56) – Lessons from going to market with new ideas</p> <p>(50:58) – Allowing teams to explore new ideas at Stripe</p> <p>(44:11) – Best startup companies to study to understand the history of this space</p> <p>             (44:52) – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Softwar-Intimate-Portrait-Ellison-Oracle/dp/0743225058"> Softwar: An Intimate Portrait of Larry Ellison and Oracle</a></p> <p>             (48:18) – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mark-Robichaux/dp/047170637X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1592264875&amp;sr=1-1"> Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the Rise of the Modern Cable Business</a></p> <p>(48:43) – Infrastructures of internet businesses that are missing</p> <p>(52:03) – Does general accounting practices need to change to capture the true value of a company like Stripe</p> <p>(1:01:53) – Shared playbooks in Silicon Valley</p> <p>(1:02:02) – The transition to the no code movement</p> <p>(1:08:22) – Other businesses that pique his interest outside of software</p> <p>(1:10:21) – Future trends that excite him</p> <p>(1:11:10) – First memory when he felt like he was participating in the tech economy</p> <p>(1:12:46 – The role of board members</p> <p>(1:15:48) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him</p> <p>(1:18:49) – Advice for young people</p> <p>Learn More</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>. </p> <p>Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a></p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="https://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Episode: John Collison – Growing the Internet Economy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.178]
Pub date: 2020-06-16

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            <title>Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-S9REewTqvl2/">Dwarkesh Podcast</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4d3803dec68e476eb81badeccfe431b4/">Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4d3803dec68e476eb81badeccfe431b4/&notes=Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-TmJs4Bn-HZt-S9REewTqvl2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Bryan Caplan is a Professor of Economics at George Mason University and a <em>New York Times</em> Bestselling author. His most famous works include: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Rational-Voter-Democracies-Policies/dp/0691138737" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>The Myth of the Rational Voter</em>,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Selfish-Reasons-Have-More-Kids/dp/0465028616#:~:text=%E2%80%9CSelfish%20Reasons%20to%20Have%20More,%2Do%2Dnomics%20pop%20text." rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids</em>,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Case-against-Education-System-Waste/dp/0691174652" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>The Case Against Education</em></a><em>, </em>and<em> </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration</em>.</a><br /><br />I talk to Bryan about open borders, the idea trap, UBI, appeasement, China, the education system, and Bryan Caplan&apos;s next two books on poverty and housing regulation. </p><p>Watch on <a href="https://youtu.be/r4AkTmqvWzM" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>. Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1-bryan-caplan-nurturing-orphaned-ideas/id1516093381?i=1000476263301" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1pLDCwyZc1Tr53PrlfERKy?si=34c747dc30b84ced" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or any other podcast platform.<br /><br />Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Bryan on Twitter</a>. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">me on Twitter</a> for updates on future episodes.</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.dwarkesh.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dwarkesh Patel, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-S9REewTqvl2/">Dwarkesh Podcast</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4d3803dec68e476eb81badeccfe431b4/">Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-22<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4d3803dec68e476eb81badeccfe431b4/&notes=Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-TmJs4Bn-HZt-S9REewTqvl2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Bryan Caplan is a Professor of Economics at George Mason University and a <em>New York Times</em> Bestselling author. His most famous works include: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Rational-Voter-Democracies-Policies/dp/0691138737" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>The Myth of the Rational Voter</em>,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Selfish-Reasons-Have-More-Kids/dp/0465028616#:~:text=%E2%80%9CSelfish%20Reasons%20to%20Have%20More,%2Do%2Dnomics%20pop%20text." rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids</em>,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Case-against-Education-System-Waste/dp/0691174652" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>The Case Against Education</em></a><em>, </em>and<em> </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Open-Borders-Science-Ethics-Immigration/dp/1250316960" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"><em>Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration</em>.</a><br /><br />I talk to Bryan about open borders, the idea trap, UBI, appeasement, China, the education system, and Bryan Caplan&apos;s next two books on poverty and housing regulation. </p><p>Watch on <a href="https://youtu.be/r4AkTmqvWzM" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>. Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1-bryan-caplan-nurturing-orphaned-ideas/id1516093381?i=1000476263301" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1pLDCwyZc1Tr53PrlfERKy?si=34c747dc30b84ced" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or any other podcast platform.<br /><br />Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/bryan_caplan" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Bryan on Twitter</a>. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">me on Twitter</a> for updates on future episodes.</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.dwarkesh.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dwarkesh Patel, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Dwarkesh Podcast
Episode: Bryan Caplan - Nurturing Orphaned Ideas
Pub date: 2020-05-22

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            <author>Dwarkesh Patel</author>



            
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            <title>Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-S9REewTqvl2/">Dwarkesh Podcast</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b432ca1a32fd48eb815bcc7541647a0f/">Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b432ca1a32fd48eb815bcc7541647a0f/&notes=Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-TmJs4Bn-HZt-S9REewTqvl2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen is Holbert L. Harris Professor of Economics at George Mason University and also Director of the Mercatus Center.<br /><br />Watch on <a href="https://youtu.be/ayUZreGysTo" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>. Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/4-tyler-cowen-the-great-reset/id1516093381?i=1000484134807" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5oK5FFNU5P2aztG8btGwgM?si=NK0ZA8fNRfym3qwVdyug4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or any other podcast platform.</p><p><br />Transcript + Podcast website <a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/ tyler-cowen" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a><br /><br />Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Tyler Cowen on Twitter</a>. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">me on Twitter</a> for updates on future episodes.</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>(0:00) - The Great Reset </p><p>(2:58) - Growth and the cyclical view of history </p><p>(4:00) - Time horizons, growth, and sustainability </p><p>(5:30) - Space travel </p><p>(8:11) - WMDs and end of humanity </p><p>(10:57) - Common sense morality </p><p>(12:20) - China and authoritarianism </p><p>(13:45) - Are big businesses complacent?</p><p>(17:15) - Online education vs university </p><p>(20:45) - Aesthetic decline in West Virginia </p><p>(23:20) - Advice for young people </p><p>(25:18) - Mentors </p><p>(27:15) - Identifying talent </p><p>(29:50) - Can adults change? </p><p>(31:45) - Capacity to change men vs women </p><p>(33:10 ) - Are effeminate societies better? </p><p>(35:15) - Conservatives and progress </p><p>(36:50) - Biggest mistake in history </p><p>(39:05) - Nuke in my lifetime </p><p>(40:35) - Age and learning </p><p>(42:45) - Pessimistic future </p><p>(43:50) - Optimistic future </p><p>(46:28) - Closing</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.dwarkesh.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dwarkesh Patel, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-S9REewTqvl2/">Dwarkesh Podcast</a> (LS 57 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/b432ca1a32fd48eb815bcc7541647a0f/">Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/b432ca1a32fd48eb815bcc7541647a0f/&notes=Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/dwarkesh-podcast-dwarkesh-patel-TmJs4Bn-HZt-S9REewTqvl2.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen is Holbert L. Harris Professor of Economics at George Mason University and also Director of the Mercatus Center.<br /><br />Watch on <a href="https://youtu.be/ayUZreGysTo" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>. Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/4-tyler-cowen-the-great-reset/id1516093381?i=1000484134807" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5oK5FFNU5P2aztG8btGwgM?si=NK0ZA8fNRfym3qwVdyug4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, or any other podcast platform.</p><p><br />Transcript + Podcast website <a href="https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/ tyler-cowen" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a><br /><br />Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Tyler Cowen on Twitter</a>. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">me on Twitter</a> for updates on future episodes.</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>(0:00) - The Great Reset </p><p>(2:58) - Growth and the cyclical view of history </p><p>(4:00) - Time horizons, growth, and sustainability </p><p>(5:30) - Space travel </p><p>(8:11) - WMDs and end of humanity </p><p>(10:57) - Common sense morality </p><p>(12:20) - China and authoritarianism </p><p>(13:45) - Are big businesses complacent?</p><p>(17:15) - Online education vs university </p><p>(20:45) - Aesthetic decline in West Virginia </p><p>(23:20) - Advice for young people </p><p>(25:18) - Mentors </p><p>(27:15) - Identifying talent </p><p>(29:50) - Can adults change? </p><p>(31:45) - Capacity to change men vs women </p><p>(33:10 ) - Are effeminate societies better? </p><p>(35:15) - Conservatives and progress </p><p>(36:50) - Biggest mistake in history </p><p>(39:05) - Nuke in my lifetime </p><p>(40:35) - Age and learning </p><p>(42:45) - Pessimistic future </p><p>(43:50) - Optimistic future </p><p>(46:28) - Closing</p> <br /><br />This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">www.dwarkesh.com</a><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dwarkesh Patel, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Dwarkesh Podcast
Episode: Tyler Cowen - The Great Reset
Pub date: 2020-07-10

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/b432ca1a32fd48eb815bcc7541647a0f/

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            <title>Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/532f2c4a8f6049bcb779ab2eacf088fe/">Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/532f2c4a8f6049bcb779ab2eacf088fe/&notes=Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest this week is Charlie Songhurst, the former head of strategy at Microsoft and a prolific investor, having personally invested in nearly 500 companies throughout his career. I met Charlie at an event hosted in New York and you can tell within one minute of meeting him that his mind is sparkling with ideas and curiosity. Its no wonder he’s been among the most commonly requested guests when I asked several top investors and CEOs who I should have on the show. We discuss the lessons he’s learned about business, investing, and people from such a large sample size of companies. I won’t reveal any more here, I highly recommend you just listen to Charlie and learn. Let’s dive in.</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club and new email newsletter called “Inside the Episode” at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>(1:25) – (First question) –  Stack ranking the vices of power, money and fame</p> <p>(2:41) – Memorable response to the stack ranking question</p> <p>(3:13) – Best scenario to explore this stack ranking concept</p> <p>(3:55) – Other ways to rank founders</p> <p>(4:44) – Quick look at this career</p> <p>(5:16) – Time at Microsoft</p> <p>(6:03) – Features he looks for in startups</p> <p>(10:55) – Managing the declining curve of productivity</p> <p>(14:55) – Why founders are often unique people</p> <p>             (14:57) – <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/gramm/">Jeff Gramm Podcast Episode</a></p> <p>             (15:04) – <a href="https://medium.com/balance-io/aliens-jedi-%EF%B8%8F-cults-b1d52b681b8"> Aliens, Jedi &amp; Cults</a></p> <p>(19;43) – How early entrepreneurs need to make recruitment a serious part of their work</p> <p>(23:06) – How successful founders win the best candidates</p> <p>(25:27) – The East Coast vs. West Coast investment strategies</p> <p>(30:40) – When it’s time to bring in quantitative factors into early stage investing</p> <p>(34:36) – The markers that pop up in companies that hit</p> <p>(37:22) – Boring but successful investments</p> <p>(39:28) – Investor aesthetics</p> <p>(41:29) – Characteristics of investors that he believes are important to success</p> <p>(42:57) – Impacts of Covid and some of the permanent changes that have happened as a result</p> <p>(47:49) – Investing opportunities in the local community</p> <p>(49:13) – His take on cryptocurrencies</p> <p>(53:47) – Most mis valued asset in the world</p> <p>(55:16) – Investing opportunities in Europe</p> <p>(57:34) – Make up of his 483 investments</p> <p>             (57:58) – <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/clifford/">Matt Clifford Podcast Episode</a></p> <p>(59:17) – Curation as a skill</p> <p>(1:01:54) – Timing and startup success</p> <p>(1:05:11) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him</p> <p> </p> <p>Learn More</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club and new email newsletter called “Inside the Episode” at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-GM5ZY4o_vCc/">Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy</a> (LS 67 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/532f2c4a8f6049bcb779ab2eacf088fe/">Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/532f2c4a8f6049bcb779ab2eacf088fe/&notes=Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/invest-like-the-best-with-patrick-rRbskXmJvIP-GM5ZY4o_vCc.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest this week is Charlie Songhurst, the former head of strategy at Microsoft and a prolific investor, having personally invested in nearly 500 companies throughout his career. I met Charlie at an event hosted in New York and you can tell within one minute of meeting him that his mind is sparkling with ideas and curiosity. Its no wonder he’s been among the most commonly requested guests when I asked several top investors and CEOs who I should have on the show. We discuss the lessons he’s learned about business, investing, and people from such a large sample size of companies. I won’t reveal any more here, I highly recommend you just listen to Charlie and learn. Let’s dive in.</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club and new email newsletter called “Inside the Episode” at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>(1:25) – (First question) –  Stack ranking the vices of power, money and fame</p> <p>(2:41) – Memorable response to the stack ranking question</p> <p>(3:13) – Best scenario to explore this stack ranking concept</p> <p>(3:55) – Other ways to rank founders</p> <p>(4:44) – Quick look at this career</p> <p>(5:16) – Time at Microsoft</p> <p>(6:03) – Features he looks for in startups</p> <p>(10:55) – Managing the declining curve of productivity</p> <p>(14:55) – Why founders are often unique people</p> <p>             (14:57) – <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/gramm/">Jeff Gramm Podcast Episode</a></p> <p>             (15:04) – <a href="https://medium.com/balance-io/aliens-jedi-%EF%B8%8F-cults-b1d52b681b8"> Aliens, Jedi &amp; Cults</a></p> <p>(19;43) – How early entrepreneurs need to make recruitment a serious part of their work</p> <p>(23:06) – How successful founders win the best candidates</p> <p>(25:27) – The East Coast vs. West Coast investment strategies</p> <p>(30:40) – When it’s time to bring in quantitative factors into early stage investing</p> <p>(34:36) – The markers that pop up in companies that hit</p> <p>(37:22) – Boring but successful investments</p> <p>(39:28) – Investor aesthetics</p> <p>(41:29) – Characteristics of investors that he believes are important to success</p> <p>(42:57) – Impacts of Covid and some of the permanent changes that have happened as a result</p> <p>(47:49) – Investing opportunities in the local community</p> <p>(49:13) – His take on cryptocurrencies</p> <p>(53:47) – Most mis valued asset in the world</p> <p>(55:16) – Investing opportunities in Europe</p> <p>(57:34) – Make up of his 483 investments</p> <p>             (57:58) – <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/clifford/">Matt Clifford Podcast Episode</a></p> <p>(59:17) – Curation as a skill</p> <p>(1:01:54) – Timing and startup success</p> <p>(1:05:11) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him</p> <p> </p> <p>Learn More</p> <p>For more episodes go to <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/podcast">InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for the book club and new email newsletter called “Inside the Episode” at <a href="http://investorfieldguide.com/bookclub">InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub</a>.</p> <p>Follow Patrick on Twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_oshag">@patrick_oshag</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Episode: Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]
Pub date: 2020-07-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/532f2c4a8f6049bcb779ab2eacf088fe/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:59:37 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>06 - Alex Schultz - Growth</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/df8395e7829e48aea1985912eaf6d287/">06 - Alex Schultz - Growth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/df8395e7829e48aea1985912eaf6d287/&notes=06 - Alex Schultz - Growth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Alex Schultz gives an overview of Growth for startups, speaking from a position of authority as the VP of Growth at Facebook.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Alex-schultz-lecture-6-growth-annotated">tech.genius.com/Alex-schultz-lecture-6-growth-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>View the readings Alex refers to, his slide deck, at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec06/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec06/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64035">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64035</a></p><p></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/alex-schultz-growth">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/df8395e7829e48aea1985912eaf6d287/">06 - Alex Schultz - Growth</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/df8395e7829e48aea1985912eaf6d287/&notes=06 - Alex Schultz - Growth">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Alex Schultz gives an overview of Growth for startups, speaking from a position of authority as the VP of Growth at Facebook.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Alex-schultz-lecture-6-growth-annotated">tech.genius.com/Alex-schultz-lecture-6-growth-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>View the readings Alex refers to, his slide deck, at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec06/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec06/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64035">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64035</a></p><p></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/alex-schultz-growth">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 06 - Alex Schultz - Growth
Pub date: 2016-01-06

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            <title>04 - Adora Cheung - Building Product, Talking to Users, and Growing</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c71b30ff2d1c43a897359b9a292e53d9/">04 - Adora Cheung - Building Product, Talking to Users, and Growing</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c71b30ff2d1c43a897359b9a292e53d9/&notes=04 - Adora Cheung - Building Product, Talking to Users, and Growing">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>So you have an idea. How do you go from zero users to many users?Adora Cheung, Founder of Homejoy, covers Building Product, Talking to Users, and Growing, in Lecture 4 of How to Start a Startup.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Adora-cheung-lecture-4-building-product-talking-to-users-and-growing-annotated">tech.genius.com/Adora-cheung-lecture-4-building-product-talking-to-users-and-growing-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See the slides and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec04/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec04/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64033">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64033</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/adora-cheung-building-product-talking-to-users">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 04 - Adora Cheung - Building Product, Talking to Users, and Growing
Pub date: 2016-01-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c71b30ff2d1c43a897359b9a292e53d9/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:59:34 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>07 - Kevin Hale - How to Build Products Users Love</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f9530c764db6476db9f3bf9adce52315/">07 - Kevin Hale - How to Build Products Users Love</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f9530c764db6476db9f3bf9adce52315/&notes=07 - Kevin Hale - How to Build Products Users Love">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Kevin Hale, Founder of Wufoo and Partner at Y Combinator, explains how to build products that create a passionate user base invested in your startup's success.</p><p></p><p>This is lecture 7 from <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co">startupclass.co</a></p><p></p><p>Links:</p><p><a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://genius.com/Kevin-hale-lecture-7-how-to-build-products-users-love-part-i-annotated" target="blank">Transcript of this speech on genius.com</a></p><p><a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec07" target="blank">Slides and readings</a></p><p><a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/25/wufoo-35-million-surveymonkey/" target="blank">TechCrunch: WuFoo Exits For $35 Million, After Raising Only $118,000</a></p><p><a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://twitter.com/ilikevests/status/522147146741874688" target="blank">Kevin Hale on twitter: @ilikevests</a></p><p><a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64036" target="blank">Discussion page on startupclass.co</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/kevin-hale-build-products-users-love">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 07 - Kevin Hale - How to Build Products Users Love
Pub date: 2016-01-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f9530c764db6476db9f3bf9adce52315/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:59:22 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e9d7a6eb3974927878d5828577b17d0/">09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0e9d7a6eb3974927878d5828577b17d0/&notes=09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam leads a panel Q&amp;A on fundraising in this lecture with Marc Andreessen, Founder of Netscape and Andreessen Horowitz, Ron Conway, Founder of SV Angel, and Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Marc-andreessen-lecture-9-how-to-raise-money-annotated">tech.genius.com/Marc-andreessen-lecture-9-how-to-raise-money-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See Ron Conway's slide, and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec09/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec09/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64038">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64038</a></p><p></p><p>This audio is under Creative Commons license: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/">creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/marc-andreessen-ron-conway-and-parker-conrad">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e9d7a6eb3974927878d5828577b17d0/">09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0e9d7a6eb3974927878d5828577b17d0/&notes=09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Sam leads a panel Q&amp;A on fundraising in this lecture with Marc Andreessen, Founder of Netscape and Andreessen Horowitz, Ron Conway, Founder of SV Angel, and Parker Conrad, Founder of Zenefits.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Marc-andreessen-lecture-9-how-to-raise-money-annotated">tech.genius.com/Marc-andreessen-lecture-9-how-to-raise-money-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See Ron Conway's slide, and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec09/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec09/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64038">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64038</a></p><p></p><p>This audio is under Creative Commons license: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/">creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/marc-andreessen-ron-conway-and-parker-conrad">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 09 - Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway and  Parker Conrad - How to Raise Money
Pub date: 2016-01-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/0e9d7a6eb3974927878d5828577b17d0/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fc003dd88cd0413fbbf55f45c652a7b2/">12 - Aaron Levie - Building For The Enterprise</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fc003dd88cd0413fbbf55f45c652a7b2/&notes=12 - Aaron Levie - Building For The Enterprise">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Aaron Levie - founder of Box, enterprise master, Twitter comedic genius. In this lecture, he'll convince you to Build for the Enterprise.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Aaron-levie-lecture-12-sales-and-marketing-annotated">tech.genius.com/Aaron-levie-lecture-12-sales-and-marketing-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See the slides and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec12/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec12/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64041">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64041</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/aaron-levie-building-for-the-enterprise">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/fc003dd88cd0413fbbf55f45c652a7b2/">12 - Aaron Levie - Building For The Enterprise</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/fc003dd88cd0413fbbf55f45c652a7b2/&notes=12 - Aaron Levie - Building For The Enterprise">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Aaron Levie - founder of Box, enterprise master, Twitter comedic genius. In this lecture, he'll convince you to Build for the Enterprise.</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Aaron-levie-lecture-12-sales-and-marketing-annotated">tech.genius.com/Aaron-levie-lecture-12-sales-and-marketing-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See the slides and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec12/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec12/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64041">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64041</a></p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/aaron-levie-building-for-the-enterprise">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 12 - Aaron Levie - Building For The Enterprise
Pub date: 2016-01-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/fc003dd88cd0413fbbf55f45c652a7b2/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ee3085794c214b24a9ac1a0adfa0e373/">14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ee3085794c214b24a9ac1a0adfa0e373/&notes=14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>What should the CEO be doing on a day to day basis? How do you make sure the company is moving in the right direction? </p><p></p><p>Keith Rabois, Partner at Khosla Ventures and former COO of Square, tackles the nitty gritty - How to Operate. Lots of actionable takeaways from this lecture!</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Keith-rabois-lecture-14-how-to-operate-annotated">tech.genius.com/Keith-rabois-lecture-14-how-to-operate-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See the slides and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec14/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec14/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64043">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64043</a></p><p></p><p>From YC Startup Class - How to Start a Startup - Stanford CS183B</p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/keith-rabois-how-to-operate">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-ROcT6QhP8Yt/">How to Start a Startup</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ee3085794c214b24a9ac1a0adfa0e373/">14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2016-01-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ee3085794c214b24a9ac1a0adfa0e373/&notes=14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-start-a-startup-y-combinator-and-QYOGVl0dL1m-ROcT6QhP8Yt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>What should the CEO be doing on a day to day basis? How do you make sure the company is moving in the right direction? </p><p></p><p>Keith Rabois, Partner at Khosla Ventures and former COO of Square, tackles the nitty gritty - How to Operate. Lots of actionable takeaways from this lecture!</p><p></p><p>Lecture Transcript: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://tech.genius.com/Keith-rabois-lecture-14-how-to-operate-annotated">tech.genius.com/Keith-rabois-lecture-14-how-to-operate-annotated</a></p><p></p><p>See the slides and readings at <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/http://startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec14/">startupclass.samaltman.com/courses/lec14/</a></p><p></p><p>Discuss this lecture: <a href="https://awesound.com/click-auid/tempauid/https://startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64043">startupclass.co/courses/how-to-start-a-startup/lectures/64043</a></p><p></p><p>From YC Startup Class - How to Start a Startup - Stanford CS183B</p><p>Click to view: <a href="https://awesound.com/ycombinator/keith-rabois-how-to-operate">show page on Awesound</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: How to Start a Startup
Episode: 14 - Keith Rabois - How to Operate
Pub date: 2016-01-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ee3085794c214b24a9ac1a0adfa0e373/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Y Combinator and Stanford University: Sam Altman, Dustin Moskovitz, Paul Graham, Adora Cheung, Peter Thiel, Alex Schultz, Kevin Hale, Marc Andreessen, Ron Conway, Ben Silbermann, Alfred Lin, Patrick and John Collison, Aaron Levie, Reid Hoffman & more, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <title>Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e63cacd43d7444e831ac5fc78a40294/">Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-01-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7e63cacd43d7444e831ac5fc78a40294/&notes=Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is Keith Rabois, the Managing Director at Khosla Ventures. At Khosla, Keith focuses on the consumer internet, education, enterprise, financial services, and digital health.    Keith has had a front-seat to Silicon Valley history. He’s had five bosses in his career: Peter Thiel, Max Levchin, Reid Hoffman, Jack Dorsey, and Vinod Khosla.    In this episode, we talk about the lessons of sports from the San Francisco 49ers to the Oakland A’s. Keith shares a story from his first week at PayPal, where he went on a run with Peter Thiel, which sparked his hiring philosophy. Then, we talk about the future of education, how to find undiscovered talent in society, the power of accumulating advantages, and how to raise the level of ambition in society. Keith has built more billion dollar companies than just about anybody on Planet Earth, and all that wisdom shines through in our conversation.    </p> <p> </p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a>  </p> <p> </p> <p><em>LINKS:</em></p> <p> </p> <p>Find Keith online:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rabois?lang=en">Twitter</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith">Linkedin</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.khoslaventures.com/team/keith-rabois">Khosla Ventures page</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Rabois">Wiki page</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel">Peter Thiel</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Levchin">Max Levchin</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_Hoffman">Reed Hoffman</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey">Jack Dorsey</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinod_Khosla">Vinod Khosla</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Walsh_(American_football_coach)"> Bill Walsh</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/blakemasters">Blake Masters</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk">Elon Musk</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eriktorenberg">Erik Torenberg</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Thompson_(technology_writer)">Bill Thompson</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire">William Safire</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Riley">Pat Riley</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia">Jerry Garcia</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Books mentioned:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Score-Takes-Care-Itself-Philosophy/dp/1591843472"> The Score Takes Care of Itself</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lend-Me-Your-Ears-Speeches/dp/0393059316">Lend Me Your Ears: Great Speeches in History</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Winner-Within-Life-Plan-Players/dp/0425141756"> The Winner Within</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Other mentions:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.khoslaventures.com/">Khosla Ventures</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://squareup.com/">Square</a></li> <li><a href="https://stripe.com/">Stripe</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.opendoor.com/">Opendoor</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.zillow.com/">Zillow</a></li> <li><a href="https://stratechery.com/">Stratechery</a></li> <li><a href="https://stratechery.com/concept/aggregation-theory/">Aggregation Theory</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p><em>SHOW TOPICS</em></p> <p> </p> <p>1:32 - Outlining the book, <em>The Score Takes Care of Itself</em> and its significance for entrepreneurs. <em>“Rather than focusing on the score, focus on the process and the rest takes care of itself.”</em> Also detailing Bill Walsh, the underlying infrastructure that he built, and the philosophy that successful companies like Square and Apple have used.</p> <p> </p> <p>4:41 - Leadership lessons that can be learned from sports and the insights that Keith learned from Peter Thiel in the past on evaluating people and on building great companies. Pairing yourself with people that cover your blind spots and weaknesses.  </p> <p> </p> <p>9:20 - Emulating companies like Apple, Amazon, and Tesla rather than companies like Google or Facebook. The problem with people choosing the easier path in building companies and detailing building things from the ground up rather than inheriting other companies infrastructures.</p> <p> </p> <p>12:28 - Thoughts on people who are naive about markets doing better than those who have more experience and know the markets. Hiring people who have expertise to jump the learning curve that comes with starting successful companies.</p> <p> </p> <p>15:43 - Ways to accelerate learning and jump learning curves. Reading (primarily books and printed materials), find experts and constantly inquire, and using experts to find the right path to take. How Keith began venturing into real estate and him detailing his journey with it.</p> <p> </p> <p>21:28 - Keith on using Twitter and his experience with finding a specific thread on China, then meeting the author of the thread. Examples of writing insightful things online and the potential in doing so. Finding people and breaking through to clutter with original content.</p> <p> </p> <p>26:07 - Detailing accumulating advantages with companies and the effects of them. A few examples of what accumulating advantages may be within companies. A bit on accumulating advantage at the individual level, as well.</p> <p> </p> <p>32:08 - What Keith has learned from being a bit of a Silicon Valley historian and why conference room names are predominantly Silicon Valley names. Also, a bit on why you would want to understand the history of Silicon Valley and the history of successful companies. Reading less short-form content and long-form content. Being a voracious reader.</p> <p> </p> <p>36:35 - A musical example of being aware of things in the past and learning from tradition. Mixing original sparks with tradition. Learning more so you can better interpret information. For example, artists seeing ten-times more in a museum than an average person would.</p> <p> </p> <p>42:47 - Keith describing the process of speech-writing and comparing it with coding. Also detailing what makes certain speeches stand out from others. William Safire’s book on great speeches, <em>Lend Me Your Ears: Great Speeches in History.</em></p> <p> </p> <p>45:30 - Creating ambition and the fluctuation of ambition over time. Discussing ambition more, spending time with the five most ambitious people you know, and believing that things are possible. Keith’s experience with ambition while growing up and his experiences with moving into tech. Specializing in your strengths and surrounding yourself with complimentary people.</p> <p> </p> <p>52:28 - Becoming the only person in the world that does what you do and detailing this concept. Where he learned the concept and how Keith describes this for himself.</p> <p> </p> <p>56:22 - What Keith has learned about organization and productivity that scales down to an individual level. Allocation of time and under-valuing your time. Detailing how the number one predictor of success is knowing how to efficiently allocate your time and how to get the most output out of that time.</p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7e63cacd43d7444e831ac5fc78a40294/">Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-01-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7e63cacd43d7444e831ac5fc78a40294/&notes=Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is Keith Rabois, the Managing Director at Khosla Ventures. At Khosla, Keith focuses on the consumer internet, education, enterprise, financial services, and digital health.    Keith has had a front-seat to Silicon Valley history. He’s had five bosses in his career: Peter Thiel, Max Levchin, Reid Hoffman, Jack Dorsey, and Vinod Khosla.    In this episode, we talk about the lessons of sports from the San Francisco 49ers to the Oakland A’s. Keith shares a story from his first week at PayPal, where he went on a run with Peter Thiel, which sparked his hiring philosophy. Then, we talk about the future of education, how to find undiscovered talent in society, the power of accumulating advantages, and how to raise the level of ambition in society. Keith has built more billion dollar companies than just about anybody on Planet Earth, and all that wisdom shines through in our conversation.    </p> <p> </p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a>  </p> <p> </p> <p><em>LINKS:</em></p> <p> </p> <p>Find Keith online:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rabois?lang=en">Twitter</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith">Linkedin</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.khoslaventures.com/team/keith-rabois">Khosla Ventures page</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Rabois">Wiki page</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel">Peter Thiel</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Levchin">Max Levchin</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_Hoffman">Reed Hoffman</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey">Jack Dorsey</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinod_Khosla">Vinod Khosla</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Walsh_(American_football_coach)"> Bill Walsh</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/blakemasters">Blake Masters</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk">Elon Musk</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eriktorenberg">Erik Torenberg</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Thompson_(technology_writer)">Bill Thompson</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Safire">William Safire</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Riley">Pat Riley</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia">Jerry Garcia</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Books mentioned:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Score-Takes-Care-Itself-Philosophy/dp/1591843472"> The Score Takes Care of Itself</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lend-Me-Your-Ears-Speeches/dp/0393059316">Lend Me Your Ears: Great Speeches in History</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Winner-Within-Life-Plan-Players/dp/0425141756"> The Winner Within</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Other mentions:</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.khoslaventures.com/">Khosla Ventures</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://squareup.com/">Square</a></li> <li><a href="https://stripe.com/">Stripe</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.opendoor.com/">Opendoor</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.zillow.com/">Zillow</a></li> <li><a href="https://stratechery.com/">Stratechery</a></li> <li><a href="https://stratechery.com/concept/aggregation-theory/">Aggregation Theory</a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p><em>SHOW TOPICS</em></p> <p> </p> <p>1:32 - Outlining the book, <em>The Score Takes Care of Itself</em> and its significance for entrepreneurs. <em>“Rather than focusing on the score, focus on the process and the rest takes care of itself.”</em> Also detailing Bill Walsh, the underlying infrastructure that he built, and the philosophy that successful companies like Square and Apple have used.</p> <p> </p> <p>4:41 - Leadership lessons that can be learned from sports and the insights that Keith learned from Peter Thiel in the past on evaluating people and on building great companies. Pairing yourself with people that cover your blind spots and weaknesses.  </p> <p> </p> <p>9:20 - Emulating companies like Apple, Amazon, and Tesla rather than companies like Google or Facebook. The problem with people choosing the easier path in building companies and detailing building things from the ground up rather than inheriting other companies infrastructures.</p> <p> </p> <p>12:28 - Thoughts on people who are naive about markets doing better than those who have more experience and know the markets. Hiring people who have expertise to jump the learning curve that comes with starting successful companies.</p> <p> </p> <p>15:43 - Ways to accelerate learning and jump learning curves. Reading (primarily books and printed materials), find experts and constantly inquire, and using experts to find the right path to take. How Keith began venturing into real estate and him detailing his journey with it.</p> <p> </p> <p>21:28 - Keith on using Twitter and his experience with finding a specific thread on China, then meeting the author of the thread. Examples of writing insightful things online and the potential in doing so. Finding people and breaking through to clutter with original content.</p> <p> </p> <p>26:07 - Detailing accumulating advantages with companies and the effects of them. A few examples of what accumulating advantages may be within companies. A bit on accumulating advantage at the individual level, as well.</p> <p> </p> <p>32:08 - What Keith has learned from being a bit of a Silicon Valley historian and why conference room names are predominantly Silicon Valley names. Also, a bit on why you would want to understand the history of Silicon Valley and the history of successful companies. Reading less short-form content and long-form content. Being a voracious reader.</p> <p> </p> <p>36:35 - A musical example of being aware of things in the past and learning from tradition. Mixing original sparks with tradition. Learning more so you can better interpret information. For example, artists seeing ten-times more in a museum than an average person would.</p> <p> </p> <p>42:47 - Keith describing the process of speech-writing and comparing it with coding. Also detailing what makes certain speeches stand out from others. William Safire’s book on great speeches, <em>Lend Me Your Ears: Great Speeches in History.</em></p> <p> </p> <p>45:30 - Creating ambition and the fluctuation of ambition over time. Discussing ambition more, spending time with the five most ambitious people you know, and believing that things are possible. Keith’s experience with ambition while growing up and his experiences with moving into tech. Specializing in your strengths and surrounding yourself with complimentary people.</p> <p> </p> <p>52:28 - Becoming the only person in the world that does what you do and detailing this concept. Where he learned the concept and how Keith describes this for himself.</p> <p> </p> <p>56:22 - What Keith has learned about organization and productivity that scales down to an individual level. Allocation of time and under-valuing your time. Detailing how the number one predictor of success is knowing how to efficiently allocate your time and how to get the most output out of that time.</p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: Keith Rabois: Accumulating Advantages
Pub date: 2019-01-14

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            <title>E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs &amp; much more!</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-week-in-startups-jason-calacanis-EKckR36zrnA/">This Week in Startups</a> (LS 64 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4dc668c53ec940c895fdcce13b52e624/">E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs & much more!</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4dc668c53ec940c895fdcce13b52e624/&notes=E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs & much more!">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-week-in-startups-jason-calacanis-YpdLMg_vUqD-EKckR36zrnA.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>0:56 Jason intros Keith Rabois and checks in on his quarantine, Zoom's heightened exhaustion factor &amp; more 5:46 What will the lasting impact of COVID be on Silicon Valley &amp; the startup funding landscape? 8:18 How the early 2000's dot-com bust paved way for a generation of new founders &amp; why the PayPal mafia of outsiders thrived in chaos &amp; became the establishment 14:23 What has happened to intellectual debate during COVID-19? What are first principle thinkers and why are they important to problem-solving? 20:53 Is domain expertise overrated? 22:39 Keith's on his pinned tweet about his perceived recipe for startup success 26:50 In which verticals did Keith find outliers using his low-NPS/fragmented/vertical solution strategy? 32:15 History on US relationship with China, has Trump been right on China threat, should US try and bring manufacturing back from China? 44:41 China's involvement with whistleblowers, benefits of litigation knowledge as a VC, world's reaction to China mishandling COVID info 50:40 Has Biden been soft on China? How will that play into the 2020 election? 1:00:51 Why is the stock market bouncing back so quickly with record-setting unemployment numbers? Will there be another correction? 1:03:59 What is Keith seeing across his portfolio? M&amp;A opportunity for companies like Lyft? 1:09:34 Keith shares thoughts on the right time to go public 1:13:50 Impact of 20% unemployment on startups over the next year, mental impact of lockdown &amp; social isolation 1:20:40 Keith's most positive outlook going forward<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jason Calacanis, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-week-in-startups-jason-calacanis-EKckR36zrnA/">This Week in Startups</a> (LS 64 &middot; TOP 0.05% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/4dc668c53ec940c895fdcce13b52e624/">E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs & much more!</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-05-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/4dc668c53ec940c895fdcce13b52e624/&notes=E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs & much more!">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/this-week-in-startups-jason-calacanis-YpdLMg_vUqD-EKckR36zrnA.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>0:56 Jason intros Keith Rabois and checks in on his quarantine, Zoom's heightened exhaustion factor &amp; more 5:46 What will the lasting impact of COVID be on Silicon Valley &amp; the startup funding landscape? 8:18 How the early 2000's dot-com bust paved way for a generation of new founders &amp; why the PayPal mafia of outsiders thrived in chaos &amp; became the establishment 14:23 What has happened to intellectual debate during COVID-19? What are first principle thinkers and why are they important to problem-solving? 20:53 Is domain expertise overrated? 22:39 Keith's on his pinned tweet about his perceived recipe for startup success 26:50 In which verticals did Keith find outliers using his low-NPS/fragmented/vertical solution strategy? 32:15 History on US relationship with China, has Trump been right on China threat, should US try and bring manufacturing back from China? 44:41 China's involvement with whistleblowers, benefits of litigation knowledge as a VC, world's reaction to China mishandling COVID info 50:40 Has Biden been soft on China? How will that play into the 2020 election? 1:00:51 Why is the stock market bouncing back so quickly with record-setting unemployment numbers? Will there be another correction? 1:03:59 What is Keith seeing across his portfolio? M&amp;A opportunity for companies like Lyft? 1:09:34 Keith shares thoughts on the right time to go public 1:13:50 Impact of 20% unemployment on startups over the next year, mental impact of lockdown &amp; social isolation 1:20:40 Keith's most positive outlook going forward<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jason Calacanis, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: This Week in Startups
Episode: E1057: Founders Fund General Partner Keith Rabois on stock market bounce back, domain expertise being overrated, US/China issues, 2020 election, recipe for startups success, chaos making way for a new generation of entrepreneurs & much more!
Pub date: 2020-05-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/4dc668c53ec940c895fdcce13b52e624/

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0d9f5435305a47d5abce3661c7e26767/">Patrick McKenzie: Internet Famous</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0d9f5435305a47d5abce3661c7e26767/&notes=Patrick McKenzie: Internet Famous">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is marketer and software engineer Patrick McKenzie, who writes mostly about software-as-a-service businesses. He currently works for Stripe as a writer and an overall software business expert. I remember when I signed up for Stripe's Atlas program to incorporate my LLC, almost all of the documentation that wasn't legal documentation was written by Patrick.</p> <p>Patrick has also started multiple software businesses such as a bingo card creator for teachers, an automated appointment system that sent automated reminders to clients, a gaming company for teaching programming called Starfighter, and a software consultancy called Kalezumeus Software.</p> <p>I have devoured Patrick's work. He is one of my favorite online writers. Before we begin, here's my attempt to summarize what I've learned from him in three sentences. First, charge more for your services and products. Second, the economy is much bigger than you thing. Three, create for unique people, not average ones.</p> <p>____________________________</p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>3:07- What surprised Patrick about writing online. Why writing online takes you from someone who is illegible to someone who is legible. Why blogging has a lower value for business people.</p> <p>13:40- The benefits of owned platforms vs self-published. What people are missing about writing long-form. How to make the illegible structures legible in your online audience.</p> <p>24:18- Where all the great bloggers went. Patrick's writing process. Why you should grow an email list.</p> <p>36:43- How to identify which ideas are worth publishing. How care for the craft has influenced Stripe's culture.</p> <p>46:55- What writing regularly does for a company. Why write the book before the software.</p> <p>1:00:01 How "Patio11's law" explains the amount and wealth of niche software companies. How to develop a love for your craft.</p> <p>1:12:36 How to increase your optimism and ambition. Why self-promotion is like cooking.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/0d9f5435305a47d5abce3661c7e26767/">Patrick McKenzie: Internet Famous</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-07-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/0d9f5435305a47d5abce3661c7e26767/&notes=Patrick McKenzie: Internet Famous">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest today is marketer and software engineer Patrick McKenzie, who writes mostly about software-as-a-service businesses. He currently works for Stripe as a writer and an overall software business expert. I remember when I signed up for Stripe's Atlas program to incorporate my LLC, almost all of the documentation that wasn't legal documentation was written by Patrick.</p> <p>Patrick has also started multiple software businesses such as a bingo card creator for teachers, an automated appointment system that sent automated reminders to clients, a gaming company for teaching programming called Starfighter, and a software consultancy called Kalezumeus Software.</p> <p>I have devoured Patrick's work. He is one of my favorite online writers. Before we begin, here's my attempt to summarize what I've learned from him in three sentences. First, charge more for your services and products. Second, the economy is much bigger than you thing. Three, create for unique people, not average ones.</p> <p>____________________________</p> <p>Show Notes</p> <p>3:07- What surprised Patrick about writing online. Why writing online takes you from someone who is illegible to someone who is legible. Why blogging has a lower value for business people.</p> <p>13:40- The benefits of owned platforms vs self-published. What people are missing about writing long-form. How to make the illegible structures legible in your online audience.</p> <p>24:18- Where all the great bloggers went. Patrick's writing process. Why you should grow an email list.</p> <p>36:43- How to identify which ideas are worth publishing. How care for the craft has influenced Stripe's culture.</p> <p>46:55- What writing regularly does for a company. Why write the book before the software.</p> <p>1:00:01 How "Patio11's law" explains the amount and wealth of niche software companies. How to develop a love for your craft.</p> <p>1:12:36 How to increase your optimism and ambition. Why self-promotion is like cooking.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: North Star Podcast
Episode: Patrick McKenzie: Internet Famous
Pub date: 2020-07-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/0d9f5435305a47d5abce3661c7e26767/

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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-LyMz3ET4j1c/">Top Founders</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f441a408bc124f2eacd12851b124758e/">1706 The Early Days: How He Got His First 8 Customers</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f441a408bc124f2eacd12851b124758e/&notes=1706 The Early Days: How He Got His First 8 Customers">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-th9V3wFGIUD-LyMz3ET4j1c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Deepak has 20 years of experience in product and marketing roles at storage, application and networking companies. He has served in leadership positions at Druva, Riverbed, Sun, AOL and at Netscape where he launched several products. Deepak has an MBA from UC, Berkeley and an MS in Computer Science from Cornell University.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Latka, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-LyMz3ET4j1c/">Top Founders</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f441a408bc124f2eacd12851b124758e/">1706 The Early Days: How He Got His First 8 Customers</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f441a408bc124f2eacd12851b124758e/&notes=1706 The Early Days: How He Got His First 8 Customers">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-th9V3wFGIUD-LyMz3ET4j1c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Deepak has 20 years of experience in product and marketing roles at storage, application and networking companies. He has served in leadership positions at Druva, Riverbed, Sun, AOL and at Netscape where he launched several products. Deepak has an MBA from UC, Berkeley and an MS in Computer Science from Cornell University.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Latka, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Episode: 1706 The Early Days: How He Got His First 8 Customers
Pub date: 2020-03-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f441a408bc124f2eacd12851b124758e/

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            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 10:32:49 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Nathan Latka</author>



            
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            <title>1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV&#x27;s</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-LyMz3ET4j1c/">Top Founders</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bde76d1bf8e84450b69fd30fe3f7e051/">1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV's</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bde76d1bf8e84450b69fd30fe3f7e051/&notes=1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV's">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-th9V3wFGIUD-LyMz3ET4j1c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sonny Patel is the Founder & CEO at Insurmi, a white-labeled conversational A.I. platform that enables carriers to generate new business online, streamline claims, and provide excellent A.I. driven customer service. He is also a proud #YESPHX business leader who is passionate about helping other founders make their entrepreneurial dreams a reality! <p> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Latka, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-LyMz3ET4j1c/">Top Founders</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/bde76d1bf8e84450b69fd30fe3f7e051/">1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV's</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-04-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/bde76d1bf8e84450b69fd30fe3f7e051/&notes=1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV's">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/top-founders-nathan-latka-th9V3wFGIUD-LyMz3ET4j1c.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sonny Patel is the Founder & CEO at Insurmi, a white-labeled conversational A.I. platform that enables carriers to generate new business online, streamline claims, and provide excellent A.I. driven customer service. He is also a proud #YESPHX business leader who is passionate about helping other founders make their entrepreneurial dreams a reality! <p> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Latka, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Top Founders
Episode: 1738 How He Got First Enterprise Customers to Pay $120k ACV's
Pub date: 2020-04-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/bde76d1bf8e84450b69fd30fe3f7e051/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Latka, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 10:32:38 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Nathan Latka</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Nathan Latka</itunes:author>
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            <title>How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/leveling-up-with-eric-siu-eric-siu-IOm9gr7f_yb/">Leveling Up with Eric Siu</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ece26e544f654f12a499db88b542047e/">How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ece26e544f654f12a499db88b542047e/&notes=How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/leveling-up-with-eric-siu-eric-siu-7wxHPQ4E-tA-IOm9gr7f_yb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Hey everyone! In today’s interview, I share the mic with Michael Monteiro, CEO and Co-Founder of Buildium, a property management software.    Tune in to hear Michael explain how Buildium serves as a solution for so many property management companies, how it took them 2 whole years to get their first 50 customers and how they now have 14,000 customers in over 40 countries!   <p><a href="http://growtheverywhere.com/growth-everywhere-interview/michael-monteiro-buildium/"> Click here for show notes and transcript</a></p> <p>Leave Some Feedback:</p> <ul> <li>What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below.</li> <li>Did you enjoy this episode? If so, leave a <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/growth-everywhere/id741544976?mt=2&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4">short review here</a>.</li> <li>Subscribe to <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/growth-everywhere/id741544976?mt=2&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4">Growth Everywhere on iTunes</a>.</li> <li><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/growtheverywhere">Get the non-iTunes RSS feed</a></li> </ul> <p>Connect with Eric Siu:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://growtheverywhere.com/">Growth Everywhere</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.singlegrain.com/">Single Grain</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ericosiu">Twitter @EricSiu</a></li> </ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Eric Siu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/leveling-up-with-eric-siu-eric-siu-IOm9gr7f_yb/">Leveling Up with Eric Siu</a> (LS 52 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/ece26e544f654f12a499db88b542047e/">How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-06-16<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/ece26e544f654f12a499db88b542047e/&notes=How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/leveling-up-with-eric-siu-eric-siu-7wxHPQ4E-tA-IOm9gr7f_yb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Hey everyone! In today’s interview, I share the mic with Michael Monteiro, CEO and Co-Founder of Buildium, a property management software.    Tune in to hear Michael explain how Buildium serves as a solution for so many property management companies, how it took them 2 whole years to get their first 50 customers and how they now have 14,000 customers in over 40 countries!   <p><a href="http://growtheverywhere.com/growth-everywhere-interview/michael-monteiro-buildium/"> Click here for show notes and transcript</a></p> <p>Leave Some Feedback:</p> <ul> <li>What should I talk about next? Who should I interview? Please let me know on Twitter or in the comments below.</li> <li>Did you enjoy this episode? If so, leave a <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/growth-everywhere/id741544976?mt=2&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4">short review here</a>.</li> <li>Subscribe to <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/growth-everywhere/id741544976?mt=2&amp;ign-mpt=uo%3D4">Growth Everywhere on iTunes</a>.</li> <li><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/growtheverywhere">Get the non-iTunes RSS feed</a></li> </ul> <p>Connect with Eric Siu:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://growtheverywhere.com/">Growth Everywhere</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.singlegrain.com/">Single Grain</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ericosiu">Twitter @EricSiu</a></li> </ul><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Eric Siu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Leveling Up with Eric Siu
Episode: How Buildium Struggled to Get Their First 50 Customers and Now Has 14K Customers in 40+ Countries
Pub date: 2019-06-16

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/ece26e544f654f12a499db88b542047e/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Eric Siu, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2020 10:31:26 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Eric Siu</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:26:50</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Eric Siu</itunes:author>
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            <title>Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ui-breakfast-uiux-design-and-product-v8FO4AaYQGC/">UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product Strategy</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397/">Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-12-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397/&notes=Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ui-breakfast-uiux-design-and-product-2E8eOhSMZGq-v8FO4AaYQGC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Getting your first SaaS customers is inevitably a grind; but it helps to be methodical about your process. Our guest today is the incredible Asia Matos, founder of DemandMaven. You'll learn what a typical funnel looks like for a SaaS business, how to recruit your early users, and what strategies can help you scale later.</p><p><i>Podcast feed:</i> subscribe to <a href="https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R">https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R</a> in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ui-breakfast-podcast/id939175693?mt=2">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=97279&amp;refid=stpr">Stitcher</a>, or <a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ig42wpgwtqn4hzewnjmmes6eizq?t%3DUI_Breakfast:_UI/UX_Design_and_Product_Strategy%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16">Google Play Music</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://demandmaven.io/">DemandMaven</a> — Asia's company</li><li><a href="https://amplitude.com/blog/2016/02/25/actionable-pirate-metrics">Make Your Pirate Metrics Actionable</a> — an article about Dave McClure's Pirate Metrics</li><li><a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Ahrefs</a> — a tool that successfully implements a paid $7 trial</li><li><a href="https://uibreakfast.com/142-game-thinking-with-amy-jo-kim/">Episode 142: Game Thinking with Amy Jo Kim</a></li><li><a href="https://neilpatel.com/blog/the-beginners-guide-to-gmail-ads/">The Beginner’s Guide to Gmail Ads</a> — an article by Neil Patel</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/asiamatos">Follow Asia on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Follow Asia on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/AsiaMatos">@AsiaMatos</a></li><li>Use promocode UIBREAKFAST to get Asia's <a href="https://demandmaven.io/services/marketing-strategy-call/">marketing strategy call</a> entirely free</li></ul><h2>Today's Sponsor</h2><p>This episode is brought to you by Lightmatter. Lightmatter helps some of the world’s fastest growing companies design and develop their software applications. Whether you don’t yet need an in-house engineering team, or you’re busy growing the next unicorn and can’t hire fast enough, there’s an immense value in working with a group of experts like Lightmatter. Check them out at <a href="https://lightmatter.com/uibreakfast">lightmatter.com/uibreakfast</a> to learn more.</p><p><i>Interested in sponsoring an episode?</i> <a href="http://uibreakfast.com/sponsor">Learn more here.</a> </p><h2>Leave a Review</h2><p>Reviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. <a href="http://uibreakfast.com/podcast-review">Here's how.</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jane Portman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ui-breakfast-uiux-design-and-product-v8FO4AaYQGC/">UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product Strategy</a> (LS 48 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397/">Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-12-23<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397/&notes=Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ui-breakfast-uiux-design-and-product-2E8eOhSMZGq-v8FO4AaYQGC.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Getting your first SaaS customers is inevitably a grind; but it helps to be methodical about your process. Our guest today is the incredible Asia Matos, founder of DemandMaven. You'll learn what a typical funnel looks like for a SaaS business, how to recruit your early users, and what strategies can help you scale later.</p><p><i>Podcast feed:</i> subscribe to <a href="https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R">https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R</a> in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ui-breakfast-podcast/id939175693?mt=2">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=97279&amp;refid=stpr">Stitcher</a>, or <a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ig42wpgwtqn4hzewnjmmes6eizq?t%3DUI_Breakfast:_UI/UX_Design_and_Product_Strategy%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16">Google Play Music</a>.</p><h2>Show Notes</h2><ul><li><a href="https://demandmaven.io/">DemandMaven</a> — Asia's company</li><li><a href="https://amplitude.com/blog/2016/02/25/actionable-pirate-metrics">Make Your Pirate Metrics Actionable</a> — an article about Dave McClure's Pirate Metrics</li><li><a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Ahrefs</a> — a tool that successfully implements a paid $7 trial</li><li><a href="https://uibreakfast.com/142-game-thinking-with-amy-jo-kim/">Episode 142: Game Thinking with Amy Jo Kim</a></li><li><a href="https://neilpatel.com/blog/the-beginners-guide-to-gmail-ads/">The Beginner’s Guide to Gmail Ads</a> — an article by Neil Patel</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/asiamatos">Follow Asia on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Follow Asia on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/AsiaMatos">@AsiaMatos</a></li><li>Use promocode UIBREAKFAST to get Asia's <a href="https://demandmaven.io/services/marketing-strategy-call/">marketing strategy call</a> entirely free</li></ul><h2>Today's Sponsor</h2><p>This episode is brought to you by Lightmatter. Lightmatter helps some of the world’s fastest growing companies design and develop their software applications. Whether you don’t yet need an in-house engineering team, or you’re busy growing the next unicorn and can’t hire fast enough, there’s an immense value in working with a group of experts like Lightmatter. Check them out at <a href="https://lightmatter.com/uibreakfast">lightmatter.com/uibreakfast</a> to learn more.</p><p><i>Interested in sponsoring an episode?</i> <a href="http://uibreakfast.com/sponsor">Learn more here.</a> </p><h2>Leave a Review</h2><p>Reviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. <a href="http://uibreakfast.com/podcast-review">Here's how.</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jane Portman, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product Strategy
Episode: Episode 153: Your First 100 Customers with Asia Matos
Pub date: 2019-12-23

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/527f498a94974609b3c0917f9ced2397/

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            <author>Jane Portman</author>



            
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            <itunes:duration>00:42:26</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/cold-call-hbr-presents-brian-kenny-sC2kfX7gM0D/">Cold Call</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2fe288eb515d4251b79f6f1df15927f8/">Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2fe288eb515d4251b79f6f1df15927f8/&notes=Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/cold-call-hbr-presents-brian-kenny-egRtK2b1Odo-sC2kfX7gM0D.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Two siblings, Thomas and Sally Campbell, are faced with selling their childhood home. They need to make several difficult decisions, all the while navigating their contentious relationship. Harvard Business School professor <strong><a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=589473" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Leslie John</a></strong> discusses the importance of asking (and answering) the right questions when negotiating, particularly under emotional stress, in her case, &#8220;<a href="https://store.hbr.org/product/the-campbell-home-a/918017?sku=918017-PDF-ENG" rel="noopener" target="_blank">The Campbell Home</a>.&#8221;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HBR Presents / Brian Kenny, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/cold-call-hbr-presents-brian-kenny-sC2kfX7gM0D/">Cold Call</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/2fe288eb515d4251b79f6f1df15927f8/">Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-31<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/2fe288eb515d4251b79f6f1df15927f8/&notes=Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/cold-call-hbr-presents-brian-kenny-egRtK2b1Odo-sC2kfX7gM0D.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Two siblings, Thomas and Sally Campbell, are faced with selling their childhood home. They need to make several difficult decisions, all the while navigating their contentious relationship. Harvard Business School professor <strong><a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=589473" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Leslie John</a></strong> discusses the importance of asking (and answering) the right questions when negotiating, particularly under emotional stress, in her case, &#8220;<a href="https://store.hbr.org/product/the-campbell-home-a/918017?sku=918017-PDF-ENG" rel="noopener" target="_blank">The Campbell Home</a>.&#8221;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from HBR Presents / Brian Kenny, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Cold Call
Episode: Controlling the Emotion of Negotiation
Pub date: 2020-03-31

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/2fe288eb515d4251b79f6f1df15927f8/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 06:12:50 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>HBR Presents / Brian Kenny</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Cold Call</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:author>HBR Presents / Brian Kenny</itunes:author>
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            <title>Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/science-talk-scientific-american-v2iSELnO41w/">Science Talk</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4/">Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4/&notes=Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/science-talk-scientific-american-AZQU8PsyJXn-v2iSELnO41w.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Michael Marshall, project director of the Good Thinking Society in the U.K., talks about flat earth belief and its relationship to conspiracy theories and other antiscience activities.</p>

<p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Scientific American, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/science-talk-scientific-american-v2iSELnO41w/">Science Talk</a> (LS 54 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4/">Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-03-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4/&notes=Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/science-talk-scientific-american-AZQU8PsyJXn-v2iSELnO41w.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Michael Marshall, project director of the Good Thinking Society in the U.K., talks about flat earth belief and its relationship to conspiracy theories and other antiscience activities.</p>

<p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Scientific American, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Science Talk
Episode: Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why
Pub date: 2020-03-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/a1bbce1756624df3bdeb9a6cd8ccf3f4/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Scientific American, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:20:09 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Scientific American</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Science Talk</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:35:00</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Scientific American</itunes:author>
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            <title>Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-lrb-podcast-the-london-review-of-books-I-05jJ8rUaG/">The LRB Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb/">Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb/&notes=Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-lrb-podcast-the-london-review-of-books-rzHVBwaXgc5-I-05jJ8rUaG.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Given what we know about the future of the planet, is having children a matter of consumer choice, of political conviction, or something an authority will eventually decide for us? Meehan Crist explores the debate about the ethics of childbearing in the age of climate crisis. She addresses the relationship between BP and the British Museum, the implications of culture-washing, and the logic of cultural divestment initiatives.</p><p>Read more from Meehan Crist in the LRB here: <a href="https://lrb.me/meehancristarticlespod">l</a><a href="https://lrb.me/meehancristpod">rb.me/meehancristarticlespod</a></p><p>Subscribe to the LRB from just £1 per issue: <a href="https://mylrb.co.uk/podcast20b">mylrb.co.uk/podcast20b</a></p><p> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The London Review of Books, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-lrb-podcast-the-london-review-of-books-I-05jJ8rUaG/">The LRB Podcast</a> (LS 56 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb/">Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb/&notes=Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-lrb-podcast-the-london-review-of-books-rzHVBwaXgc5-I-05jJ8rUaG.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Given what we know about the future of the planet, is having children a matter of consumer choice, of political conviction, or something an authority will eventually decide for us? Meehan Crist explores the debate about the ethics of childbearing in the age of climate crisis. She addresses the relationship between BP and the British Museum, the implications of culture-washing, and the logic of cultural divestment initiatives.</p><p>Read more from Meehan Crist in the LRB here: <a href="https://lrb.me/meehancristarticlespod">l</a><a href="https://lrb.me/meehancristpod">rb.me/meehancristarticlespod</a></p><p>Subscribe to the LRB from just £1 per issue: <a href="https://mylrb.co.uk/podcast20b">mylrb.co.uk/podcast20b</a></p><p> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The London Review of Books, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The LRB Podcast
Episode: Meehan Crist: Is it OK to have children?
Pub date: 2020-02-26

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/5270f662ab20438fb50860cd042161bb/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The London Review of Books, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2020 15:31:24 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>The London Review of Books</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The LRB Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>01:24:22</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>The London Review of Books</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Jill Lepore on what I get wrong</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-vox-QBJp8Ejkiqt/">The Gray Area with Sean Illing</a> (LS 74 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65/">Jill Lepore on what I get wrong</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65/&notes=Jill Lepore on what I get wrong">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-vox-W4XpFlAtVS7-QBJp8Ejkiqt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jill Lepore is a Harvard historian, a New Yorker contributor, the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/These-Truths-History-United-States/dp/0393635244"><em>These Truths</em></a>, and one of my favorite past guests on this show. But in this episode, the tables are turned: I’m in the hot seat, and Lepore has some questions. Hard ones.</p><p>This is, easily, the toughest interview on my book so far. Lepore isn’t quibbling over my solutions or pointing out a contrary study — what she challenges are the premises, epistemology, and meta-structure that form the foundation of my book, and much of my work. Her question, in short, is: What if social science itself is too crude to be a useful way of understanding the political world?</p><p>But that’s what makes this conversation great. We discuss whether all political science research on polarization might be completely wrong, why (and whether) my book is devoid of individual or institutional “villains,” and whether I am morally obliged to delete my Twitter account, in addition to the missing party in American politics, why I mistrust historical narratives, media polarization, and much more.</p><p>This is, on one level, a conversation about <em>Why We’re Polarized</em>. But on a deeper level, it’s about different modes of knowledge and whether we can trust them.</p><p><br /></p><p>New to the show? Want to listen to Ezra's favorite episodes? Check out <a href="https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast/2020/1/31/21113248/the-ezra-klein-show-podcast-guide-best-episodes">The Ezra Klein Show beginner's guide</a>.</p><p>My book is available at <a href="http://simonandschusterpublishing.com/why-were-polarized/">www.EzraKlein.com</a>.</p><p>The “Why We’re Polarized” tour continues, with events in Portland, Seattle, Austin, Nashville, Chicago, and Greenville. Go to <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/why-were-polarized/">WhyWerePolarized.com</a> for the full schedule!</p><p>Want to contact the show? Reach out at <a href="mailto:ezrakleinshow@vox.com">ezrakleinshow@vox.com</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p>Producer - Jeff Geld</p><p>Researcher - Roge Karma</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Vox, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-vox-QBJp8Ejkiqt/">The Gray Area with Sean Illing</a> (LS 74 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65/">Jill Lepore on what I get wrong</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65/&notes=Jill Lepore on what I get wrong">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-vox-W4XpFlAtVS7-QBJp8Ejkiqt.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Jill Lepore is a Harvard historian, a New Yorker contributor, the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/These-Truths-History-United-States/dp/0393635244"><em>These Truths</em></a>, and one of my favorite past guests on this show. But in this episode, the tables are turned: I’m in the hot seat, and Lepore has some questions. Hard ones.</p><p>This is, easily, the toughest interview on my book so far. Lepore isn’t quibbling over my solutions or pointing out a contrary study — what she challenges are the premises, epistemology, and meta-structure that form the foundation of my book, and much of my work. Her question, in short, is: What if social science itself is too crude to be a useful way of understanding the political world?</p><p>But that’s what makes this conversation great. We discuss whether all political science research on polarization might be completely wrong, why (and whether) my book is devoid of individual or institutional “villains,” and whether I am morally obliged to delete my Twitter account, in addition to the missing party in American politics, why I mistrust historical narratives, media polarization, and much more.</p><p>This is, on one level, a conversation about <em>Why We’re Polarized</em>. But on a deeper level, it’s about different modes of knowledge and whether we can trust them.</p><p><br /></p><p>New to the show? Want to listen to Ezra's favorite episodes? Check out <a href="https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast/2020/1/31/21113248/the-ezra-klein-show-podcast-guide-best-episodes">The Ezra Klein Show beginner's guide</a>.</p><p>My book is available at <a href="http://simonandschusterpublishing.com/why-were-polarized/">www.EzraKlein.com</a>.</p><p>The “Why We’re Polarized” tour continues, with events in Portland, Seattle, Austin, Nashville, Chicago, and Greenville. Go to <a href="https://simonandschusterpublishing.com/why-were-polarized/">WhyWerePolarized.com</a> for the full schedule!</p><p>Want to contact the show? Reach out at <a href="mailto:ezrakleinshow@vox.com">ezrakleinshow@vox.com</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p>Producer - Jeff Geld</p><p>Researcher - Roge Karma</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Vox, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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                <![CDATA[
Podcast: The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Episode: Jill Lepore on what I get wrong
Pub date: 2020-02-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/72fdb9cedfe0473697957d4995004d65/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Vox, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2020 06:52:24 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Vox</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Gray Area with Sean Illing</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>01:23:23</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Vox</itunes:author>
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            <title>Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ask-the-nincompoops-andy-stanton-carrie-d9aWSIhXRQm/">Ask The Nincompoops</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f41015a8d3384445b67a14d17ed567ae/">Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-12-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f41015a8d3384445b67a14d17ed567ae/&notes=Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ask-the-nincompoops-great-big-owl-YnTzRlvoX5d-d9aWSIhXRQm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Are you a very unintelligent child? Of COURSE you are. It's well known by clever adults that you kids know NOTHING.</p><br /><p>But don't cry because you won't be unedumacated for much longer. Carrie Quinlan (a VERY clever grown-up) and Andy Stanton (who is also a VERY clever grown-up, thank you, actually) are here to educate the world's children and answer their soft, squashy brain questions using GROWN-UP KNOWLEDGE. It's time to....Ask The Nincompoops!</p><br /><p>Today it's a return visit for straw-headed tots MICHAEL and KATHERINE to be informed and educated by two very clever adults.</p><br /><p>This podcast is suitable for all the family!</p><p>If you have a question you want these two geniuses to ask, just send it, with your name and age, to askthenincompoops@gmail.com - and we'll try to answer them in an upcoming episode!</p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Andy Stanton & Carrie Quinlan, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/ask-the-nincompoops-andy-stanton-carrie-d9aWSIhXRQm/">Ask The Nincompoops</a> (LS 45 &middot; TOP 1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f41015a8d3384445b67a14d17ed567ae/">Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-12-13<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f41015a8d3384445b67a14d17ed567ae/&notes=Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/ask-the-nincompoops-great-big-owl-YnTzRlvoX5d-d9aWSIhXRQm.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Are you a very unintelligent child? Of COURSE you are. It's well known by clever adults that you kids know NOTHING.</p><br /><p>But don't cry because you won't be unedumacated for much longer. Carrie Quinlan (a VERY clever grown-up) and Andy Stanton (who is also a VERY clever grown-up, thank you, actually) are here to educate the world's children and answer their soft, squashy brain questions using GROWN-UP KNOWLEDGE. It's time to....Ask The Nincompoops!</p><br /><p>Today it's a return visit for straw-headed tots MICHAEL and KATHERINE to be informed and educated by two very clever adults.</p><br /><p>This podcast is suitable for all the family!</p><p>If you have a question you want these two geniuses to ask, just send it, with your name and age, to askthenincompoops@gmail.com - and we'll try to answer them in an upcoming episode!</p><hr /><p style="color: grey; font-size: 0.75em;"> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="color: grey;" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Andy Stanton & Carrie Quinlan, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Ask The Nincompoops
Episode: Term 2, Lesson 7: Were Cavemen Actually Real?
Pub date: 2019-12-13

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f41015a8d3384445b67a14d17ed567ae/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2020 04:17:09 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Andy Stanton &amp; Carrie Quinlan</author>



            
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            <title>Chapter 1: &quot;Loomings&quot;</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/moby-dick-energy-a-moby-dick-podcast-talia-4v1zZdAsKqP/">Moby Dick Energy: A Moby Dick Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e/">Chapter 1: "Loomings"</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-01-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e/&notes=Chapter 1: "Loomings"">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/moby-dick-energy-a-moby-dick-podcast-talia-Ioi9yxU-Ywb-4v1zZdAsKqP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Talia Lavin and David Roth discuss Chapter 1 of Moby-Dick, &quot;Loomings.&quot; We also discuss the weird life of Herman Melville, how we fell in love with this book, and introduce the podcast. <br /><br />Theme song by Noam Hassenfeld.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Talia Lavin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/moby-dick-energy-a-moby-dick-podcast-talia-4v1zZdAsKqP/">Moby Dick Energy: A Moby Dick Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e/">Chapter 1: "Loomings"</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-01-18<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e/&notes=Chapter 1: "Loomings"">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/moby-dick-energy-a-moby-dick-podcast-talia-Ioi9yxU-Ywb-4v1zZdAsKqP.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Talia Lavin and David Roth discuss Chapter 1 of Moby-Dick, &quot;Loomings.&quot; We also discuss the weird life of Herman Melville, how we fell in love with this book, and introduce the podcast. <br /><br />Theme song by Noam Hassenfeld.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Talia Lavin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Moby Dick Energy: A Moby Dick Podcast
Episode: Chapter 1: "Loomings"
Pub date: 2020-01-18

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/3c5c1d77b362496e9717abcb40ec165e/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Talia Lavin, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2020 04:16:20 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Talia Lavin</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Talia Lavin</itunes:author>
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            <title>S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-fail-with-elizabeth-day-elizabeth-5F4LAUTBiqm/">How To Fail With Elizabeth Day </a> (LS 73 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/79cc504516cd460d936293f38fb94222/">S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/79cc504516cd460d936293f38fb94222/&notes=S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-fail-with-elizabeth-day-elizabeth-sXUmpcj3Grh-5F4LAUTBiqm.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Marian Keyes is one of those people who you think can't POSSIBLY be as lovely and talented and nice as everyone says she is. She must have a hidden dark side, I thought. Maybe she's a terrible diva who will demand bowls of blue M&amp;Ms and want my toilet freshly re-painted and scented with vanilla before she deigns to use it?<br /><br />But then you meet her and - lo and behold - she is not only as lovely as everyone says she is, but in fact EVEN NICER than that. This is a woman who has sold millions of book, who is one of the most successful and lauded Irish authors of all time, and who could quite forgivably be an egomaniac, but she's utterly fabulous. Or 'fabliss' as Keyes herself would put it.<br /><br />She joins me this week to talk about writing, feminism, low self-esteem, depression, alcoholism, humour as a survival mechanism, her failure to get into journalism college, weight loss (why she knows it shouldn't be important but still can't help worrying about) and her self-perceived 'failure' to have children. We also talk about her great new novel, Grown Ups, where the characters all seem like members of your own family and you're bereft to turn the final page.<br /><br />Thank you Marian. You really are fabliss.<br /><br />* <br /><br />This episode is sponsored by Frank Body who are offering listeners 15% off when they spend £20 or more with the code HOWTOFAIL15 at checkout.<br /><br />*<br /><br /> <br /><br />The Sunday Times Top 5 bestselling book of the podcast, How To Fail: Everything I've Ever Learned From Things Going Wrong is out now in paperback and available to buy here.<br /><br />*<br /><br />Grown Ups by Marian Keyes is published by Penguin and is available to buy here.<br /><br />*<br /><br />How To Fail With Elizabeth Day is hosted by Elizabeth Day, produced by Naomi Mantin and Chris Sharp. We love hearing from you! To contact us, email <a href="mailto:howtofailpod@gmail.com">howtofailpod@gmail.com</a><br /><br />* <br /><br />Social Media:<br /><br />Elizabeth Day @elizabday<br /><br />Marian Keyes @mariankeyes<br /><br /> <br /><br /> <p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-fail-with-elizabeth-day-elizabeth-5F4LAUTBiqm/">How To Fail With Elizabeth Day </a> (LS 73 &middot; TOP 0.01% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/79cc504516cd460d936293f38fb94222/">S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2020-02-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/79cc504516cd460d936293f38fb94222/&notes=S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/how-to-fail-with-elizabeth-day-elizabeth-sXUmpcj3Grh-5F4LAUTBiqm.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Marian Keyes is one of those people who you think can't POSSIBLY be as lovely and talented and nice as everyone says she is. She must have a hidden dark side, I thought. Maybe she's a terrible diva who will demand bowls of blue M&amp;Ms and want my toilet freshly re-painted and scented with vanilla before she deigns to use it?<br /><br />But then you meet her and - lo and behold - she is not only as lovely as everyone says she is, but in fact EVEN NICER than that. This is a woman who has sold millions of book, who is one of the most successful and lauded Irish authors of all time, and who could quite forgivably be an egomaniac, but she's utterly fabulous. Or 'fabliss' as Keyes herself would put it.<br /><br />She joins me this week to talk about writing, feminism, low self-esteem, depression, alcoholism, humour as a survival mechanism, her failure to get into journalism college, weight loss (why she knows it shouldn't be important but still can't help worrying about) and her self-perceived 'failure' to have children. We also talk about her great new novel, Grown Ups, where the characters all seem like members of your own family and you're bereft to turn the final page.<br /><br />Thank you Marian. You really are fabliss.<br /><br />* <br /><br />This episode is sponsored by Frank Body who are offering listeners 15% off when they spend £20 or more with the code HOWTOFAIL15 at checkout.<br /><br />*<br /><br /> <br /><br />The Sunday Times Top 5 bestselling book of the podcast, How To Fail: Everything I've Ever Learned From Things Going Wrong is out now in paperback and available to buy here.<br /><br />*<br /><br />Grown Ups by Marian Keyes is published by Penguin and is available to buy here.<br /><br />*<br /><br />How To Fail With Elizabeth Day is hosted by Elizabeth Day, produced by Naomi Mantin and Chris Sharp. We love hearing from you! To contact us, email <a href="mailto:howtofailpod@gmail.com">howtofailpod@gmail.com</a><br /><br />* <br /><br />Social Media:<br /><br />Elizabeth Day @elizabday<br /><br />Marian Keyes @mariankeyes<br /><br /> <br /><br /> <p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: How To Fail With Elizabeth Day 
Episode: S7, Ep6 How to Fail: Marian Keyes
Pub date: 2020-02-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/79cc504516cd460d936293f38fb94222/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2020 04:16:02 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>How To Fail With Elizabeth Day </itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:46:50</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment</itunes:author>
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            <title>#4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-AdsaY8pIEZz/">Kosmos with a K</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807/">#4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807/&notes=#4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-cyIJ9fSGNQu-AdsaY8pIEZz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I met with <a href="https://twitter.com/esosnik">Esteban Sosnik </a>of Reach Capital in his San Francisco office. We talked about his background in making games and why it is exteremly difficult to make successful educational games. Also, we touched on the future of the educational technology market and why Esteban believes that it will become more attractive for entrepreneurs and investors alike.</p>
<p>Esteban is a partner at <a href="https://reachcapital.com/">Reach Capital</a> a VC firm that invests in EdTech companies such as ClassDojo, &nbsp;Nearpod and Replit.&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kosmos School, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-AdsaY8pIEZz/">Kosmos with a K</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807/">#4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-05<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807/&notes=#4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-cyIJ9fSGNQu-AdsaY8pIEZz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>I met with <a href="https://twitter.com/esosnik">Esteban Sosnik </a>of Reach Capital in his San Francisco office. We talked about his background in making games and why it is exteremly difficult to make successful educational games. Also, we touched on the future of the educational technology market and why Esteban believes that it will become more attractive for entrepreneurs and investors alike.</p>
<p>Esteban is a partner at <a href="https://reachcapital.com/">Reach Capital</a> a VC firm that invests in EdTech companies such as ClassDojo, &nbsp;Nearpod and Replit.&nbsp;</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kosmos School, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Kosmos with a K
Episode: #4 Esteban Sosnik (Reach Capital) - Why is it hard to make educational games?
Pub date: 2019-04-05

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/91b8a4b3fa57492e8913587b3a62c807/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kosmos School, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:28:28 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Kosmos School</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>Kosmos School</itunes:author>
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            <title>#7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-AdsaY8pIEZz/">Kosmos with a K</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c/">#7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c/&notes=#7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-cyIJ9fSGNQu-AdsaY8pIEZz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode with <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen/">Tyler Cowen</a> we talk about a broad range of topics. For example, why it's important that students have less homework, the Swiss science culture, and the low university completion rates.</p>
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<p>Tyler is an economics professor at George Mason University, the director of the Mercatus Center, author of many economics books and runs the blog <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">Marginal Revolution</a>.</p>
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<p>At <a href="https://kosmosschool.com/">Kosmos School</a>, we make fun educational VR games.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kosmos School, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-AdsaY8pIEZz/">Kosmos with a K</a><br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c/">#7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-09<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c/&notes=#7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/kosmos-with-a-k-kosmos-school-cyIJ9fSGNQu-AdsaY8pIEZz.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this episode with <a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen/">Tyler Cowen</a> we talk about a broad range of topics. For example, why it's important that students have less homework, the Swiss science culture, and the low university completion rates.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Tyler is an economics professor at George Mason University, the director of the Mercatus Center, author of many economics books and runs the blog <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">Marginal Revolution</a>.</p>
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<p>At <a href="https://kosmosschool.com/">Kosmos School</a>, we make fun educational VR games.</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kosmos School, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Kosmos with a K
Episode: #7 Tyler Cowen (GMU) on less homework, Swiss science culture, and low university completion rates
Pub date: 2019-10-09

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c44f833764b6497db40441c64274773c/

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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:28:04 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Kosmos School</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Kosmos with a K</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:42:37</itunes:duration>
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            <title>Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/brandon-stover-on-life-brandon-stover-LpxteuTFBfb/">Brandon Stover On Life</a> (LS 30 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3/">Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3/&notes=Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/brandon-stover-on-life-brandon-stover-gtwH5G1WKuM-LpxteuTFBfb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This weeks guest on Evolve with Brandon Stover is serial founder, educator, philanthropist, mentor, and venture capitalist, Danielle Strachman of the 1517 Fund. Her disruptive 20 million dollar venture fund in San Francisco offers 250 thousand dollar investments to teens and twenty something year old dropouts, makers, hackers, and scientists who embody conviction to go against the grain of societies one path for all through college. 1517 has proven this radical thesis with a portfolio of over 30 young founder startups, watching small 1k idea investments turn into Series B companies, and 17 year olds starting 5 person teams that scale to 400 employees and are making the best autonomous driving tech on the market.</p><p>In this episode she talks about her journey in entrepreneurship of starting a school, working with Peter Thiel on the Theil Fellowship, how young founders can follow their passion and express that authentically, and what she believes the future of education looks like.</p><p>Visit https://www.evolvethe.world/episodes/danielle-strachman</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brandon Stover, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/brandon-stover-on-life-brandon-stover-LpxteuTFBfb/">Brandon Stover On Life</a> (LS 30 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3/">Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-10-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3/&notes=Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/brandon-stover-on-life-brandon-stover-gtwH5G1WKuM-LpxteuTFBfb.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>This weeks guest on Evolve with Brandon Stover is serial founder, educator, philanthropist, mentor, and venture capitalist, Danielle Strachman of the 1517 Fund. Her disruptive 20 million dollar venture fund in San Francisco offers 250 thousand dollar investments to teens and twenty something year old dropouts, makers, hackers, and scientists who embody conviction to go against the grain of societies one path for all through college. 1517 has proven this radical thesis with a portfolio of over 30 young founder startups, watching small 1k idea investments turn into Series B companies, and 17 year olds starting 5 person teams that scale to 400 employees and are making the best autonomous driving tech on the market.</p><p>In this episode she talks about her journey in entrepreneurship of starting a school, working with Peter Thiel on the Theil Fellowship, how young founders can follow their passion and express that authentically, and what she believes the future of education looks like.</p><p>Visit https://www.evolvethe.world/episodes/danielle-strachman</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brandon Stover, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Brandon Stover On Life
Episode: Danielle Strachman on How To Self Liberate Through An Entrepreneur Education | Evolve 014
Pub date: 2019-10-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/28c32d7689a84bb78e78b687cc9070d3/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Brandon Stover, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:37:23 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Brandon Stover</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Brandon Stover On Life</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:01:17</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Brandon Stover</itunes:author>
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            <title>64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-uNErdBU9mb3/">The Michael Shermer Show</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d/">64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d/&notes=64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-WpCKLrmQP06-uNErdBU9mb3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this fascinating conversation with the evolutionary anthropologist Michael Tomasello, the Max Planck Institute scientist presents his new theory of how humans became such a distinctive species. Other theories focus on evolution. Here, Tomasello proposes a complementary theory of human uniqueness, focused on development. His data-driven model explains how those things that make us most human are constructed during the first years of a child's life.</p> <p>Tomasello assembles nearly three decades of experimental work with chimpanzees, bonobos, and human children to propose a new framework for psychological growth between birth and seven years of age. He identifies eight pathways that starkly differentiate humans from their closest primate relatives: social cognition, communication, cultural learning, cooperative thinking, collaboration, prosociality, social norms, and moral identity. In each of these, great apes possess rudimentary abilities. But then, Tomasello argues, the maturation of humans' evolved capacities for shared intentionality transform these abilities—through the new forms of sociocultural interaction they enable—into uniquely human cognition and sociality. The first step occurs around nine months, with the emergence of joint intentionality, exercised mostly with caregiving adults. The second step occurs around three years, with the emergence of collective intentionality involving both authoritative adults, who convey cultural knowledge, and coequal peers, who elicit collaboration and communication. Finally, by age six or seven, children become responsible for self-regulating their beliefs and actions so that they comport with cultural norms.</p> <p><em>Becoming Human</em> places human sociocultural activity within the framework of modern evolutionary theory, and shows how biology creates the conditions under which culture does its work.</p> <p>Listen to Science Salon via <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/science-salon/id1352860989">iTunes</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4eDCVvVXJVwKCa0QfNbuXA">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Ijruniqd24odd4t3asb6zvbde6a">Google Play Music</a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=175601&amp;refid=stpr">Stitcher</a>, <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-Science-Salo-A-Podc-29037884/">iHeartRadio</a>, <a href="https://tunein.com/podcasts/Science-Podcasts/Science-Salon-p1106380/"> TuneIn</a>, and <a href="https://soundcloud.com/science-salon">Soundcloud</a>.</p> <p class="ImportantInfo">This Science Salon was recorded on February 19, 2019.</p> <p class="ImportantInfo">You play a vital part in our commitment to promote science and reason. If you enjoy the Science Salon Podcast, please <a href="https://www.skeptic.com/donate/">show your support</a> by making a donation, or by <a href="https://www.patreon.com/skeptic">becoming a patron</a>.</p> <p> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Michael Shermer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-uNErdBU9mb3/">The Michael Shermer Show</a> (LS 58 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d/">64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-04-30<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d/&notes=64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-michael-shermer-show-michael-shermer-WpCKLrmQP06-uNErdBU9mb3.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>In this fascinating conversation with the evolutionary anthropologist Michael Tomasello, the Max Planck Institute scientist presents his new theory of how humans became such a distinctive species. Other theories focus on evolution. Here, Tomasello proposes a complementary theory of human uniqueness, focused on development. His data-driven model explains how those things that make us most human are constructed during the first years of a child's life.</p> <p>Tomasello assembles nearly three decades of experimental work with chimpanzees, bonobos, and human children to propose a new framework for psychological growth between birth and seven years of age. He identifies eight pathways that starkly differentiate humans from their closest primate relatives: social cognition, communication, cultural learning, cooperative thinking, collaboration, prosociality, social norms, and moral identity. In each of these, great apes possess rudimentary abilities. But then, Tomasello argues, the maturation of humans' evolved capacities for shared intentionality transform these abilities—through the new forms of sociocultural interaction they enable—into uniquely human cognition and sociality. The first step occurs around nine months, with the emergence of joint intentionality, exercised mostly with caregiving adults. The second step occurs around three years, with the emergence of collective intentionality involving both authoritative adults, who convey cultural knowledge, and coequal peers, who elicit collaboration and communication. Finally, by age six or seven, children become responsible for self-regulating their beliefs and actions so that they comport with cultural norms.</p> <p><em>Becoming Human</em> places human sociocultural activity within the framework of modern evolutionary theory, and shows how biology creates the conditions under which culture does its work.</p> <p>Listen to Science Salon via <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/science-salon/id1352860989">iTunes</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4eDCVvVXJVwKCa0QfNbuXA">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://play.google.com/music/m/Ijruniqd24odd4t3asb6zvbde6a">Google Play Music</a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=175601&amp;refid=stpr">Stitcher</a>, <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-Science-Salo-A-Podc-29037884/">iHeartRadio</a>, <a href="https://tunein.com/podcasts/Science-Podcasts/Science-Salon-p1106380/"> TuneIn</a>, and <a href="https://soundcloud.com/science-salon">Soundcloud</a>.</p> <p class="ImportantInfo">This Science Salon was recorded on February 19, 2019.</p> <p class="ImportantInfo">You play a vital part in our commitment to promote science and reason. If you enjoy the Science Salon Podcast, please <a href="https://www.skeptic.com/donate/">show your support</a> by making a donation, or by <a href="https://www.patreon.com/skeptic">becoming a patron</a>.</p> <p> </p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Michael Shermer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Michael Shermer Show
Episode: 64. Michael Tomasello — Becoming Human
Pub date: 2019-04-30

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/98183610f05b47098edfd5fd9ad62b1d/

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 07:26:08 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Michael Shermer</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Michael Shermer Show</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>01:25:31</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Michael Shermer</itunes:author>
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            <title>Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/london-review-bookshop-podcast-london-BLzTO0EuHf5/">London Review Bookshop Podcast</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335/">Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-05-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335/&notes=Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/london-review-bookshop-podcast-london-itrWFzuHysP-BLzTO0EuHf5.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sally Rooney breathes new life into fiction. Her novels deal with ordinary life in all its unexpected ways. The Guardian said of Rooney’s debut novel, Conversations with Friends: ‘It’s rare that a novel elicits such ferocious and unmitigated awe from just about everyone you know, whether male, female, or millennial’. Rooney’s second novel, Normal People (published by Faber &amp; Faber last September), was called ‘superb . . . a tremendous read, full of insight and sweetness’ by Anne Enright. Olivia Laing has stated that ‘Rooney is the best young novelist – indeed one of the best novelists – I’ve read in years.’ On the occasion of the paperback publication of Normal People, Rooney was in conversation with Kishani Widyaratna, editor at Picador Books and contributing editor at The White Review.<p> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from London Review Bookshop, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/london-review-bookshop-podcast-london-BLzTO0EuHf5/">London Review Bookshop Podcast</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335/">Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-05-07<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335/&notes=Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/london-review-bookshop-podcast-london-itrWFzuHysP-BLzTO0EuHf5.256x256.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Sally Rooney breathes new life into fiction. Her novels deal with ordinary life in all its unexpected ways. The Guardian said of Rooney’s debut novel, Conversations with Friends: ‘It’s rare that a novel elicits such ferocious and unmitigated awe from just about everyone you know, whether male, female, or millennial’. Rooney’s second novel, Normal People (published by Faber &amp; Faber last September), was called ‘superb . . . a tremendous read, full of insight and sweetness’ by Anne Enright. Olivia Laing has stated that ‘Rooney is the best young novelist – indeed one of the best novelists – I’ve read in years.’ On the occasion of the paperback publication of Normal People, Rooney was in conversation with Kishani Widyaratna, editor at Picador Books and contributing editor at The White Review.<p> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from London Review Bookshop, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: London Review Bookshop Podcast
Episode: Sally Rooney and Kishani Widyaratna: Normal People
Pub date: 2019-05-07

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/abe2829b9e224b00909b2a57d61a0335/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from London Review Bookshop, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 07:22:56 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>London Review Bookshop</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>London Review Bookshop Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
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            <title>A Normal Person Conversation with Sally Rooney</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cut-vox-media-podcast-network-nXquTCSdvP8/">The Cut</a> (LS 61 &middot; TOP 0.1% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/46990887b375486aab425ba3c0de23d7/">A Normal Person Conversation with Sally Rooney</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-03-26<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/46990887b375486aab425ba3c0de23d7/&notes=A Normal Person Conversation with Sally Rooney">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-cut-vox-media-podcast-network-IPSza8KqJbo-nXquTCSdvP8.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>We talked with Sally Rooney, author of <em>Conversations With Friends</em> and <em>Normal People</em>, about why she writes, how she’s smuggled socialism into page turners, the best way to keep her readers hooked, and much more. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Vox Media Podcast Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
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Episode: A Normal Person Conversation with Sally Rooney
Pub date: 2019-03-26

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            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 07:22:28 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <title>Matt Levine: Money Stuff</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a/">Matt Levine: Money Stuff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-02-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a/&notes=Matt Levine: Money Stuff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>LISTEN HERE: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/matt-levine-money-stuff/id1170914572?i=1000401254045&amp;mt=2"> ITUNES</a> | <a href="https://overcast.fm/+Hgwt9YeqE">OVERCAST</a> <p>Today’s guest is Matt Levine, a columnist at Bloomberg covering finance, Wall Street and the broader business world. Before blogging, Matt spent four years as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs, structuring and marketing corporate equity derivatives. Before that, he worked as a mergers &amp; acquisitions lawyer and a high school latin teacher. He’s also a graduate of both Harvard and Yale Law School. Matt’s newsletter, Money Stuff is always fresh and I admire Matt’s ability to discuss complex topics in fresh and engaging ways.</p> <p>In this episode, we talk about Matt's career shift from banking to blogging — from Goldman Sachs, huge and famous, to DealBreaker, teeny and scrappy. Matt shares the ideas that have shaped his worldview and his process for writing. We talk about the books that have influenced him the most, both inside and outside the financial sphere. I particularly enjoyed learning about the Iliad.</p> <p><em>“The tech startups are like the great laboratories for these questions now because what has happened weirdly is that the people with the best tech startup ideas have what seems to be enormous leverage over the people with the money.”</em></p> Links: <p>Find Matt online:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/view/contributors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthew-s-levine"> Bloomberg</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/matt_levine">Twitter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattlevine2/">Linkedin</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff">Matt’s newsletter</a></p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Mentioned in the show:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://dealbreaker.com/">DealBreaker</a> [2:55]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/">Bloomberg</a> [3:17]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.cravath.com/">Cravath</a> [6:27]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://gawker.com/">Gawker</a> [30:17]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.blackrock.com/">BlackRock</a> [37:52]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://investor.vanguard.com/corporate-portal/">Vanguard</a> [37:55]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://www.statestreet.com/home.html">State Street</a> [37:56]</p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Books mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2GSc6WO">The Iliad</a> [6:08]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2GPJe1n">Barbarians at the Gate</a> [8:06]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2EILNBF">The Bramble Bush</a> [18:38]</p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Llewellyn">Carl Llewellyn</a> [18:42]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/contributor/bess-levin">Bess Levin</a> [30:36]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/">Tyler Cowen</a> [30:50] (<a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/tyler">episode with Tyler</a>)</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Salmon">Felix Salmon</a> [32:54]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Yglesias">Matt Yglesias</a> [33:00]</p> </li> </ul> Show Topics <p>1:00 - Introduction to the episode and a bit of background info on Matt. 2:32 - Matt detailing his financial background, his general background, and where he comes from.</p> <p>4:19 - How Matt got into classics, a bit on his experiences in college, and his job out of college.</p> <p>7:00 - The books that have shaped Matt’s perspective and worldview the most and bit on what took him into the world of finance, marketing, and accounting. Also, what some of his experiences were in that field.</p> <p>11:21 - The aspect of puzzles in these fields of M&amp;A and Matt detailing his journey from investment banking to blogging.</p> <p>13:40 - How Matt’s day is structured to write, read, do deep work, and not be exhausted afterward. Also, a bit on Matt’s way of writing and learning.</p> <p>15:55 - Matt detailing how he has learned to easily sift through a lot of the false information that’s commonly found and find true information. Discussion about the reality of financial investing that’s commonly mis-portrayed in the media.</p> <p>20:14 - Which sorts ideas and life experiences beyond the bank that come up all the time that have been foundational for Matt’s way of approaching the world. Some discussion on law in general, lawyers, and contracts.</p> <p><em>“You get a certain amount of legal realism baked into you in law school I think and a certain amount of skepticism about the magic functions and words in contracts.”</em></p> <p>24:59 - Matt’s partial background in academic finance and how this has helped him understand more in the field of investing. Discussion on shareholders, share buy-backs, and running companies.</p> <p><em>“The tech startups are like the great laboratories for these questions now because what has happened weirdly is that the people with the best tech startup ideas have what seems to be enormous leverage over the people with the money.”</em></p> <p>31:44 - The people that have influenced Matt the most and some discussion on how blogging has changed over the years.</p> <p>35:30 - What some of the main goals are that Matt tries to accomplish everyday and a bit on the writing that he does.  </p> <p>37:49 - Topics and things that Matt finds the most fascinating to write about and figure out. Discussion on shareholders, index funds, writing, and investing.</p> <p><em>Hey again, it’s David here one more time. You can support the North Star Podcast by leaving us a review on iTunes. Or you can share the podcast on Twitter or Facebook.</em></p> <p><em>To listen to other episodes or learn more about the North Star, you can connect with me directly at <a href="http://perell.com/">perell.com</a> and you can always reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/">Twitter at david_perell</a>. And if you enjoyed this episode, you’ll like the <a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/tyler">episode with Tyler Cowen</a>, another columnist at <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/">Bloomberg</a> who writes about economics and culture. In the podcast, Tyler shares counterintuitive insights on travel, the millennial generation, and how he thinks about the future. Thanks again for listening.</em></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a/">Matt Levine: Money Stuff</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-02-01<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a/&notes=Matt Levine: Money Stuff">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>LISTEN HERE: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/matt-levine-money-stuff/id1170914572?i=1000401254045&amp;mt=2"> ITUNES</a> | <a href="https://overcast.fm/+Hgwt9YeqE">OVERCAST</a> <p>Today’s guest is Matt Levine, a columnist at Bloomberg covering finance, Wall Street and the broader business world. Before blogging, Matt spent four years as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs, structuring and marketing corporate equity derivatives. Before that, he worked as a mergers &amp; acquisitions lawyer and a high school latin teacher. He’s also a graduate of both Harvard and Yale Law School. Matt’s newsletter, Money Stuff is always fresh and I admire Matt’s ability to discuss complex topics in fresh and engaging ways.</p> <p>In this episode, we talk about Matt's career shift from banking to blogging — from Goldman Sachs, huge and famous, to DealBreaker, teeny and scrappy. Matt shares the ideas that have shaped his worldview and his process for writing. We talk about the books that have influenced him the most, both inside and outside the financial sphere. I particularly enjoyed learning about the Iliad.</p> <p><em>“The tech startups are like the great laboratories for these questions now because what has happened weirdly is that the people with the best tech startup ideas have what seems to be enormous leverage over the people with the money.”</em></p> Links: <p>Find Matt online:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/view/contributors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthew-s-levine"> Bloomberg</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/matt_levine">Twitter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattlevine2/">Linkedin</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff">Matt’s newsletter</a></p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Mentioned in the show:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://dealbreaker.com/">DealBreaker</a> [2:55]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/">Bloomberg</a> [3:17]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.cravath.com/">Cravath</a> [6:27]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://gawker.com/">Gawker</a> [30:17]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.blackrock.com/">BlackRock</a> [37:52]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://investor.vanguard.com/corporate-portal/">Vanguard</a> [37:55]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://www.statestreet.com/home.html">State Street</a> [37:56]</p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Books mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2GSc6WO">The Iliad</a> [6:08]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2GPJe1n">Barbarians at the Gate</a> [8:06]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2EILNBF">The Bramble Bush</a> [18:38]</p> </li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Llewellyn">Carl Llewellyn</a> [18:42]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/contributor/bess-levin">Bess Levin</a> [30:36]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/">Tyler Cowen</a> [30:50] (<a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/tyler">episode with Tyler</a>)</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Salmon">Felix Salmon</a> [32:54]</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Yglesias">Matt Yglesias</a> [33:00]</p> </li> </ul> Show Topics <p>1:00 - Introduction to the episode and a bit of background info on Matt. 2:32 - Matt detailing his financial background, his general background, and where he comes from.</p> <p>4:19 - How Matt got into classics, a bit on his experiences in college, and his job out of college.</p> <p>7:00 - The books that have shaped Matt’s perspective and worldview the most and bit on what took him into the world of finance, marketing, and accounting. Also, what some of his experiences were in that field.</p> <p>11:21 - The aspect of puzzles in these fields of M&amp;A and Matt detailing his journey from investment banking to blogging.</p> <p>13:40 - How Matt’s day is structured to write, read, do deep work, and not be exhausted afterward. Also, a bit on Matt’s way of writing and learning.</p> <p>15:55 - Matt detailing how he has learned to easily sift through a lot of the false information that’s commonly found and find true information. Discussion about the reality of financial investing that’s commonly mis-portrayed in the media.</p> <p>20:14 - Which sorts ideas and life experiences beyond the bank that come up all the time that have been foundational for Matt’s way of approaching the world. Some discussion on law in general, lawyers, and contracts.</p> <p><em>“You get a certain amount of legal realism baked into you in law school I think and a certain amount of skepticism about the magic functions and words in contracts.”</em></p> <p>24:59 - Matt’s partial background in academic finance and how this has helped him understand more in the field of investing. Discussion on shareholders, share buy-backs, and running companies.</p> <p><em>“The tech startups are like the great laboratories for these questions now because what has happened weirdly is that the people with the best tech startup ideas have what seems to be enormous leverage over the people with the money.”</em></p> <p>31:44 - The people that have influenced Matt the most and some discussion on how blogging has changed over the years.</p> <p>35:30 - What some of the main goals are that Matt tries to accomplish everyday and a bit on the writing that he does.  </p> <p>37:49 - Topics and things that Matt finds the most fascinating to write about and figure out. Discussion on shareholders, index funds, writing, and investing.</p> <p><em>Hey again, it’s David here one more time. You can support the North Star Podcast by leaving us a review on iTunes. Or you can share the podcast on Twitter or Facebook.</em></p> <p><em>To listen to other episodes or learn more about the North Star, you can connect with me directly at <a href="http://perell.com/">perell.com</a> and you can always reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/">Twitter at david_perell</a>. And if you enjoyed this episode, you’ll like the <a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/tyler">episode with Tyler Cowen</a>, another columnist at <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/">Bloomberg</a> who writes about economics and culture. In the podcast, Tyler shares counterintuitive insights on travel, the millennial generation, and how he thinks about the future. Thanks again for listening.</em></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: North Star Podcast
Episode: Matt Levine: Money Stuff
Pub date: 2018-02-01

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/46e05b4c74654497a25831e6f62acc8a/

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            <author>David Perell</author>



            
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            <title>Andrew D&#x27;Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc2057e23f274a86a5984d5e5e0636a1/">Andrew D'Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-02-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dc2057e23f274a86a5984d5e5e0636a1/&notes=Andrew D'Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest this week is <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewdsouza">Andrew D'Souza</a>, the Co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a>, a fundraising alternative to traditional venture capital. The company is based in Toronto and helps businesses fuel their marketing spend – because right now 40% of venture capital invested in companies goes directly to funding Facebook and Google ads. Equity is an expensive way for founders to fund repeatable growth and Clearbanc exists to solve that problem. Here's how it works – Clearbanc gives startups anywhere between $5,000-$10 million and in exchange Clearbanc typically receives a 5% to 10% revenue share of that company's earnings until the funding is paid back plus a 6% fee. Now here's the secret, Clearbanc picks merchants by developing technology that scans the merchants' Stripe payments and Facebook ads and that way they can assess the financial health and momentum of the company. In 2018, Clearbanc poured more than 100 million dollars into 500 companies.</p> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a> Show Notes <em>LINKS:</em> <p>Find Andrew online:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/andrewdsouza">Twitter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a></p> </li> </ul> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/chamath">Chamath Palihapitiya</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://chipwilson.com/">Chip Wilson</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/tobi">Tobi Lütke</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/sama">Sam Altman</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/paulg">Paul Graham</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/stewart?lang=en">Stewart Butterfield</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/drewhouston">Drew Houston</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/mikeyk?lang=en">Mike Krieger</a></p> </li> </ul> <p>Other mentions:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.socialcapital.com/">Social Capital</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://a16z.com/">Andreessen Horowitz</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/">Y Combinator</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/">Lululemon</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Little-Black-Stretchy-Pants-Wilson/dp/1732747318"><em>Little Black Stretchy Pants</em></a> by Chip Wilson</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.groupon.com/">Groupon</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006vq92">Dragon’s Den</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312518121161/d456916dex991.htm">It’s always Day One letter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://tophat.com/">Top Hat</a></p> </li> </ul> <em>SHOW TOPICS</em> <p>1:55 How Systems Engineering helped Andrew helped think about the intersections of different disciplines like Neurobiology, Psychology, Marketing, and Macroeconomics</p> <p>5:36 Why authenticity is key to building great marketing campaigns and why your job as the CEO is to create the necessary conditions for success</p> <p>10:12 The origin story of Clearbanc and how 40% of all venture capital goes to Facebook, Google, and Amazon</p> <p>20:05 How companies build a culture that allow people to fail and how Clearbanc started by funding Uber drivers which keeps them true to their origin story</p> <p>25:14 How Andrew squares the dichotomy between funding growth through social media and the idea of a disproportionate portion of VC going to Facebook ads</p> <p>29:42 Airbnb and the future of how cities will evolve around self-driving cars and subscription songs</p> <p>35:00 Why Andrew thinks that the advent of self-driving cars is more a policy problem than a technological one</p> <p>40:48 The independence of Canadian provinces and how Quebec has managed to preserve the European culture against huge pressures</p> <p>47:31 How meeting YC partners showed Andrew that VCs are just one way to build your company</p> <p>50:43 How Andrew builds and cultivates relationships while building Clearbanc</p> <p>55:10 What Andrew thought about traveling to Israel and thinking about Jesus as a founder of a movement</p> <p>58:29 How Andrew returned to his initial passion for selling a product that he believes in through hiring people in positions which were <em>their</em> passion</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc2057e23f274a86a5984d5e5e0636a1/">Andrew D'Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-02-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dc2057e23f274a86a5984d5e5e0636a1/&notes=Andrew D'Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>My guest this week is <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewdsouza">Andrew D'Souza</a>, the Co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a>, a fundraising alternative to traditional venture capital. The company is based in Toronto and helps businesses fuel their marketing spend – because right now 40% of venture capital invested in companies goes directly to funding Facebook and Google ads. Equity is an expensive way for founders to fund repeatable growth and Clearbanc exists to solve that problem. Here's how it works – Clearbanc gives startups anywhere between $5,000-$10 million and in exchange Clearbanc typically receives a 5% to 10% revenue share of that company's earnings until the funding is paid back plus a 6% fee. Now here's the secret, Clearbanc picks merchants by developing technology that scans the merchants' Stripe payments and Facebook ads and that way they can assess the financial health and momentum of the company. In 2018, Clearbanc poured more than 100 million dollars into 500 companies.</p> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a> Show Notes <em>LINKS:</em> <p>Find Andrew online:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/andrewdsouza">Twitter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a></p> </li> </ul> <p>People mentioned:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/chamath">Chamath Palihapitiya</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="http://chipwilson.com/">Chip Wilson</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/tobi">Tobi Lütke</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/sama">Sam Altman</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/paulg">Paul Graham</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/stewart?lang=en">Stewart Butterfield</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/drewhouston">Drew Houston</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/mikeyk?lang=en">Mike Krieger</a></p> </li> </ul> <p>Other mentions:</p> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://clearbanc.com/">Clearbanc</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.socialcapital.com/">Social Capital</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://a16z.com/">Andreessen Horowitz</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/">Y Combinator</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/">Lululemon</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Little-Black-Stretchy-Pants-Wilson/dp/1732747318"><em>Little Black Stretchy Pants</em></a> by Chip Wilson</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.groupon.com/">Groupon</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006vq92">Dragon’s Den</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312518121161/d456916dex991.htm">It’s always Day One letter</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://tophat.com/">Top Hat</a></p> </li> </ul> <em>SHOW TOPICS</em> <p>1:55 How Systems Engineering helped Andrew helped think about the intersections of different disciplines like Neurobiology, Psychology, Marketing, and Macroeconomics</p> <p>5:36 Why authenticity is key to building great marketing campaigns and why your job as the CEO is to create the necessary conditions for success</p> <p>10:12 The origin story of Clearbanc and how 40% of all venture capital goes to Facebook, Google, and Amazon</p> <p>20:05 How companies build a culture that allow people to fail and how Clearbanc started by funding Uber drivers which keeps them true to their origin story</p> <p>25:14 How Andrew squares the dichotomy between funding growth through social media and the idea of a disproportionate portion of VC going to Facebook ads</p> <p>29:42 Airbnb and the future of how cities will evolve around self-driving cars and subscription songs</p> <p>35:00 Why Andrew thinks that the advent of self-driving cars is more a policy problem than a technological one</p> <p>40:48 The independence of Canadian provinces and how Quebec has managed to preserve the European culture against huge pressures</p> <p>47:31 How meeting YC partners showed Andrew that VCs are just one way to build your company</p> <p>50:43 How Andrew builds and cultivates relationships while building Clearbanc</p> <p>55:10 What Andrew thought about traveling to Israel and thinking about Jesus as a founder of a movement</p> <p>58:29 How Andrew returned to his initial passion for selling a product that he believes in through hiring people in positions which were <em>their</em> passion</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: North Star Podcast
Episode: Andrew D'Souza: Clearbanc, Capital, and Canada
Pub date: 2019-02-25

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/dc2057e23f274a86a5984d5e5e0636a1/

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            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:34:00 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>David Perell</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>David Perell</itunes:author>
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            <title>Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfdda3af49764bcf8b4c7c14059a1612/">Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-04-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dfdda3af49764bcf8b4c7c14059a1612/&notes=Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Reversing climate change goes beyond the math and science of reducing the greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. It’s also about economic justice, social equity, and increasing the standard of living for all people across the planet. That’s the beauty of the approach presented in Drawdown. Not only does the suite of solutions tackle climate change, its co-benefits uncover a path forward that addresses human rights and ‘raises the boat’ for all people.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/18-chad-frischmann-of-project-drawdown-812">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/18-chad-frischmann-of-project-drawdown-812</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfdda3af49764bcf8b4c7c14059a1612/">Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-04-03<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dfdda3af49764bcf8b4c7c14059a1612/&notes=Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Reversing climate change goes beyond the math and science of reducing the greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. It’s also about economic justice, social equity, and increasing the standard of living for all people across the planet. That’s the beauty of the approach presented in Drawdown. Not only does the suite of solutions tackle climate change, its co-benefits uncover a path forward that addresses human rights and ‘raises the boat’ for all people.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/18-chad-frischmann-of-project-drawdown-812">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/18-chad-frischmann-of-project-drawdown-812</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Chad Frischmann of Project Drawdown
Pub date: 2018-04-03

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/dfdda3af49764bcf8b4c7c14059a1612/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:25:38 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:34:10</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f/">Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-01-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f/&notes=Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In a world where ideology informs decision-making and policy-makers have little understanding of what is plausible when it comes to negative emissions technology, challenging doesn’t even begin to describe the task of reversing climate change. In this top-down approach, a small number of academics, activists and politicians are making the decisions for 7.5 billion people—and spending a lot of time arguing hypotheticals rather than taking action.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/5-jane-flegal-of-uc-berkeley-and-597">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/5-jane-flegal-of-uc-berkeley-and-597</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f/">Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-01-02<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f/&notes=Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>In a world where ideology informs decision-making and policy-makers have little understanding of what is plausible when it comes to negative emissions technology, challenging doesn’t even begin to describe the task of reversing climate change. In this top-down approach, a small number of academics, activists and politicians are making the decisions for 7.5 billion people—and spending a lot of time arguing hypotheticals rather than taking action.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/5-jane-flegal-of-uc-berkeley-and-597">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/5-jane-flegal-of-uc-berkeley-and-597</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Jane Flegal of UC Berkeley, and Dr. Andrew Maynard of Arizona State University
Pub date: 2018-01-02

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/8325656f32a24e6fb4cd444427e9d86f/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:25:19 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:48:16</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4/">Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-05-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4/&notes=Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Today, Klaus joins Ross, Christophe and Paul to offer his feedback on the Nori whitepaper. Klaus explains why he likes the idea of breaking the carbon offset model and offering compensation based on actual carbon removed. He also shares his concerns around Nori’s customers, the verification challenges they face, and the issue of permanency.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/23-dr-klaus-lackner-of-asus-center-7a6">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/23-dr-klaus-lackner-of-asus-center-7a6</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4/">Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-05-08<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4/&notes=Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Today, Klaus joins Ross, Christophe and Paul to offer his feedback on the Nori whitepaper. Klaus explains why he likes the idea of breaking the carbon offset model and offering compensation based on actual carbon removed. He also shares his concerns around Nori’s customers, the verification challenges they face, and the issue of permanency.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/23-dr-klaus-lackner-of-asus-center-7a6">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/23-dr-klaus-lackner-of-asus-center-7a6</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Klaus Lackner on whether carbon dioxide removal can be verified
Pub date: 2018-05-08

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/f8e874ef53434569a2c25e4df65f92b4/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:24:49 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:38:41</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c/">Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-12-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c/&notes=Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system.</p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c/">Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-12-06<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c/&notes=Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system.</p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori
Pub date: 2017-12-06

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/dd0145216d3a488f96b7a9465d39ec1c/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:24:04 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:46:44</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/">Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-12-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/&notes=Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Today Ross and Christophe are joined by Propagate Co-Founders Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg to discuss the fundamentals of agroforestry and how the Propagate model works to provide farmers with capital for planting trees. They walk us through the process, explaining how an analysis of crops appropriate to the bioregion and the farmer’s goals work together to determine the specific tree crop appropriate to the project.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/3-jeremy-kaufman-and-ethan-steinberg-42f">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/3-jeremy-kaufman-and-ethan-steinberg-42f</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/">Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2017-12-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/&notes=Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Today Ross and Christophe are joined by Propagate Co-Founders Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg to discuss the fundamentals of agroforestry and how the Propagate model works to provide farmers with capital for planting trees. They walk us through the process, explaining how an analysis of crops appropriate to the bioregion and the farmer’s goals work together to determine the specific tree crop appropriate to the project.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/3-jeremy-kaufman-and-ethan-steinberg-42f">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/3-jeremy-kaufman-and-ethan-steinberg-42f</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg of Propagate Ventures
Pub date: 2017-12-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:24:01 -0700</pubDate>
            
            <guid>https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/257363dc281a4cbb93a012f5a18a88a7/</guid>
            
            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>00:54:18</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, &amp; Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/">Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, & Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-11-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/&notes=Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, & Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>The business of the future is a good cooperator, working with other players in a particular space to drive progress. Collaboration is a core part of the ethos at Propagate Ventures as their team looks to leverage agroforestry to contribute to the growing pool of climate solutions and help build a world where people live in a symbiotic relationship with the ecosystem.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/49-ethan-steinberg-harry-greene-and-8b5">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/49-ethan-steinberg-harry-greene-and-8b5</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/">Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, & Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-11-27<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/&notes=Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, & Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>The business of the future is a good cooperator, working with other players in a particular space to drive progress. Collaboration is a core part of the ethos at Propagate Ventures as their team looks to leverage agroforestry to contribute to the growing pool of climate solutions and help build a world where people live in a symbiotic relationship with the ecosystem.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/49-ethan-steinberg-harry-greene-and-8b5">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/49-ethan-steinberg-harry-greene-and-8b5</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Ethan Steinberg, Harry Greene, & Jeremy Kaufman of Propagate Ventures
Pub date: 2018-11-27

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:23:25 -0700</pubDate>
            
            <guid>https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/8e053a73bb06487ead9440898e870fd3/</guid>
            
            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:50:24</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646/">Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-08-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646/&notes=Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Knowledge is the only truly infinite resource, and its value multiplies by the number of people who put it to work. How can we put what we know about climate change to work and develop sustainable innovations that either reduce emissions or capture carbon from the atmosphere? And what role might Nori play in accelerating that innovation?<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/35-ramez-naamauthor-futurist-and-11d">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/35-ramez-naamauthor-futurist-and-11d</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646/">Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-08-14<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646/&notes=Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Knowledge is the only truly infinite resource, and its value multiplies by the number of people who put it to work. How can we put what we know about climate change to work and develop sustainable innovations that either reduce emissions or capture carbon from the atmosphere? And what role might Nori play in accelerating that innovation?<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/35-ramez-naamauthor-futurist-and-11d">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/35-ramez-naamauthor-futurist-and-11d</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Ramez Naam—Author, Futurist, and Nori Advisor
Pub date: 2018-08-14

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/23b4196c25254a6bbe15bd8f25b2e646/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:23:04 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
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            <title>Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist</title>
            
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7be1baf134694e239c7aedd4ebac9cbc/">Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-08-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7be1baf134694e239c7aedd4ebac9cbc/&notes=Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What if we could have our meat and eat it too? The current system of meat production in feed lots is devastating for the environment, but there is a better way. A way that would restore our grasslands and reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. This method is known as holistic grazing.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/37-ben-kessler-holistic-grazing-specialist-0f0">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/37-ben-kessler-holistic-grazing-specialist-0f0</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-ross-kenyon-8H4vYWBIzUx/">Reversing Climate Change</a> (LS 49 &middot; TOP 0.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/7be1baf134694e239c7aedd4ebac9cbc/">Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-08-28<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/7be1baf134694e239c7aedd4ebac9cbc/&notes=Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/reversing-climate-change-carbon-removal-MAmZ_sLIoHn-8H4vYWBIzUx.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>What if we could have our meat and eat it too? The current system of meat production in feed lots is devastating for the environment, but there is a better way. A way that would restore our grasslands and reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. This method is known as holistic grazing.<p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p>This episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/37-ben-kessler-holistic-grazing-specialist-0f0">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/37-ben-kessler-holistic-grazing-specialist-0f0</a></p><p>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a></p><p>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a></p><p>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: Reversing Climate Change
Episode: Ben Kessler, Holistic Grazing Specialist
Pub date: 2018-08-28

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/7be1baf134694e239c7aedd4ebac9cbc/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Ross Kenyon, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:22:53 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>Ross Kenyon</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>Reversing Climate Change</itunes:subtitle>
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            <itunes:duration>00:32:14</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>Ross Kenyon</itunes:author>
            <itunes:episodeType>Full</itunes:episodeType>
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            <title>Tyler Cowen on Big Business</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-not-unreasonable-podcast-david-wright-THSjqneLiY9/">The Not Unreasonable Podcast</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6/">Tyler Cowen on Big Business</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-08-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6/&notes=Tyler Cowen on Big Business">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-not-unreasonable-podcast-david-wright-SBA9LTdujMo-THSjqneLiY9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen, professor of economics, blogger at marginalrevolution.com, columnist for Bloomberg, host of Conversations with Tyler and author of numerous books returns to the Not Unreasonable Podcast to talk about his latest book, Big Business: a Love Letter to An American Anti-Hero. <br /><br />All too rarely do you get a tour of how incredibly strong the evidence is that everyday truths are what they are: big business actually exists for a reason because it mostly does exactly what we need: provide goods and services at affordable prices with reasonably good service. What&apos;s more is that big business is the source of all kinds of benefits to America and to human society generally. It&apos;s even better than you think! In the show we cover:<br />- where businesses fit into the social intuition of the human mind<br />- similarities between how we treat famous people and big business and what another of Tyler&apos;s books, *What Price Fame* can teach us about big business<br />- What is good management and what effects does management have on employees?<br />- How the book is an American book and how it is NOT a Chinese book<br />- Crony capitalism doesn&apos;t exist here, but where might it exist in the world?<br />- Wall Street and Financial Dark Matter<br />- How Tyler views the firm<br /><br />All this and much more! See show notes at notunreasoanble.com<br /><br /></p><p>Twitter: @davecwright<br /><a href="https://notunreasonable.com/signup">Surprise, It&apos;s Insurance mailing list</a><br /><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-wright-73661214/">Linkedin</a> <br /><a href="https://notunreasonable.com/the-social-science-of-insurance/">Social Science of Insurance Essays</a><br /><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Wright, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-not-unreasonable-podcast-david-wright-THSjqneLiY9/">The Not Unreasonable Podcast</a> (LS 33 &middot; TOP 5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6/">Tyler Cowen on Big Business</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2019-08-12<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6/&notes=Tyler Cowen on Big Business">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-not-unreasonable-podcast-david-wright-SBA9LTdujMo-THSjqneLiY9.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p>Tyler Cowen, professor of economics, blogger at marginalrevolution.com, columnist for Bloomberg, host of Conversations with Tyler and author of numerous books returns to the Not Unreasonable Podcast to talk about his latest book, Big Business: a Love Letter to An American Anti-Hero. <br /><br />All too rarely do you get a tour of how incredibly strong the evidence is that everyday truths are what they are: big business actually exists for a reason because it mostly does exactly what we need: provide goods and services at affordable prices with reasonably good service. What&apos;s more is that big business is the source of all kinds of benefits to America and to human society generally. It&apos;s even better than you think! In the show we cover:<br />- where businesses fit into the social intuition of the human mind<br />- similarities between how we treat famous people and big business and what another of Tyler&apos;s books, *What Price Fame* can teach us about big business<br />- What is good management and what effects does management have on employees?<br />- How the book is an American book and how it is NOT a Chinese book<br />- Crony capitalism doesn&apos;t exist here, but where might it exist in the world?<br />- Wall Street and Financial Dark Matter<br />- How Tyler views the firm<br /><br />All this and much more! See show notes at notunreasoanble.com<br /><br /></p><p>Twitter: @davecwright<br /><a href="https://notunreasonable.com/signup">Surprise, It&apos;s Insurance mailing list</a><br /><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-wright-73661214/">Linkedin</a> <br /><a href="https://notunreasonable.com/the-social-science-of-insurance/">Social Science of Insurance Essays</a><br /><br /></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Wright, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: The Not Unreasonable Podcast
Episode: Tyler Cowen on Big Business
Pub date: 2019-08-12

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/52efcebfe3df409da43ce5e478c23ea6/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Wright, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:35:02 -0700</pubDate>
            
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            <author>David Wright</author>



            
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            <itunes:subtitle>The Not Unreasonable Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
            <itunes:duration>01:05:54</itunes:duration>
            <itunes:author>David Wright</itunes:author>
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            <title>S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future</title>
            
            <link>https://www.listennotes.com/e/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597</link>
            
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/2038-new-york-magazine-intelligencer-VyXaoQ1mqu0/">2038</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597/">S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-11-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597/&notes=S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/2038-new-york-magazine-intelligencer-MN3JASbUDx--VyXaoQ1mqu0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">Tyler Cowen</a> thinks that in 2038, we're going back to the past. In the absence of major enemies like Nazis or Soviets, Tyler argues we'll see a return to the world of 19th-century American politics — bitter, rancorous, and dysfunctional, filled with fake news and presidents who probably shouldn't have been</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from New York Magazine / Intelligencer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/2038-new-york-magazine-intelligencer-VyXaoQ1mqu0/">2038</a> (LS 38 &middot; TOP 2% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597/">S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-11-21<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597/&notes=S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/2038-new-york-magazine-intelligencer-MN3JASbUDx--VyXaoQ1mqu0.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br><p><a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">Tyler Cowen</a> thinks that in 2038, we're going back to the past. In the absence of major enemies like Nazis or Soviets, Tyler argues we'll see a return to the world of 19th-century American politics — bitter, rancorous, and dysfunctional, filled with fake news and presidents who probably shouldn't have been</p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from New York Magazine / Intelligencer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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Podcast: 2038
Episode: S E6: Fake News, Bad Presidents: Our Coming 19th Century Future
Pub date: 2018-11-21

Details: https://www.listennotes.com/e/c05dcc75859c4d138b987cead0ce7597/

The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from New York Magazine / Intelligencer, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 08:51:58 -0800</pubDate>
            
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            <author>New York Magazine / Intelligencer</author>



            
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            <itunes:author>New York Magazine / Intelligencer</itunes:author>
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            <title>161: Tyler Cowen on Stubborn Attachments - A Vision for a Society of Free and Prosperous Individuals</title>
            
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He runs the Mercatus Center, which bridges the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems. He blogs every day at <em>Marginal Revolution, </em>writes for Bloomberg, and hosts his own podcast called Conversations with Tyler. He writes about economics, arts, culture, food, and globalization.  </p> <p>As I prepared for this episode, I settled on three things that I wanted to focus on: how Tyler thinks about travel, the rise of China and India, and how he learns so much. Enjoy this exploration of knowledge and culture, and I hope you laugh with us along the way. </p> <p>I particularly recommend Tyler’s most recent book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Cheerb"><em>Stubborn Attachments.</em></a></p> Transcript <p>David:             Tyler Cowen, welcome to the North Star.</p> <p>Tyler:              Thank you for having me.</p> <p>David:              So tell me a little bit about where you grew up in northern New Jersey. What was growing up like for you and what were you into as a kid?</p> <p>Tyler:              I was born in Kearny, New Jersey, Hudson county, which was a blue collar town, and my father climbed some kind of career ladder from having been bankrupted at thirty, to being upper, upper middle class, so I caught different parts of that income stream. I went to a great high school where I had four or five close friends who were super smart and had a blast. We were like a nerd fest before nerds were cool and I learned something every day but not from the teachers. I loved it and I just knew New York City.</p> <p>David:              Well, let's dive into it. I think that one thing that's really interesting about the Internet is I like to say it rewards obsession in a way that the world didn't use to and I think a byproduct of that is nerd culture is, is cool now.</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I specialized in the style of learning before there wasn't an internet and then when the Internet came along, I feel it made me like 20 times more productive. So I'm very lucky to have gotten this extreme productivity boost at about age 40, which is very rare in careers. There are people who might have some kind of productivity turning point when they're 29 or 22, but to get it at age 40, it's given my life a very different trajectory.</p> <p>David:              So I know you wrote a book about that, but talk about what was that productivity boost like, how do you think about productivity, and how did that boost manifest itself?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, I worked very hard for years at trying to absorb more information and absorb it quickly and order it effectively and when the way you do that is driving around to used bookstores and carry used books home and read them, well, that's a wonderful thing to do, but when you can just go to your iPad or your laptop and whoosh, it's all there, you're going to do a lot better.</p> <p>Tyler:              Whereas people who say do research, they've been made more productive by the Internet in other ways, but they're less concerned with absorbing information. So I feel I've gotten a relative gain compared to many other people.</p> <p>David:              So does that mean that you're hopping around between different subjects? Like if I go on marginal revolution, I could go from traveled economics to then yesterday, right, about North Korea and America. So are you hopping around or how has that style of learning changed over the years?</p> <p>Tyler:              I have long-term study plans, like part of my long-term study plan is to understand India and China much better. So that's kind of a 10 year project that I'm always in the middle of, but of course using the Internet to help me makes it much easier. Plus travel, travel being a key to learning. We'll get back to that. Uh, and then during the day I just try to keep up with the flow, the flow of good articles and new ideas.</p> <p>Tyler:              And you know, the flow always beats me. But you wake up at seven, you go to bed at 11:00 PM, there's interruptions, you exercise, you eat, but the day is the flow, the flow is your day, like it or not.</p> <p>David:              Dodging bullets and trying to survive. So there was analogy I got a couple months ago of if, if you're learning is a ship, when you try to steer something for long-term, so say that you want to learn about India in the next 10 years. The advice that I got which I thought was quite good was just steer your ship. So change your twitter feed, change your social streams one or two degrees. How do you think about it?</p> <p>Tyler:              I view myself as a prisoner of my passions. So what helps me is to be very motivated to do what I do. So I don't sit down and strategize like what's my optimal career plan?</p> <p>Tyler:              I just think what'll keep me involved and I figure they kind of compound interest on that learning will just accumulate and as long as I'm having fun, I'll stay motivated like way past other people and that's going to go well for me. So it's almost a deliberate absence of strategy except for motivating me.</p> <p>Compounding fuels success in almost anything. Albert Einstein once called it the 8th wonder of the world. <a href="https://t.co/1QcE9Q1hsU">pic.twitter.com/1QcE9Q1hsU</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480115963056128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              What are those core passions?</p> <p>Tyler:              Travel of course, food, just social science and generally walking through the world on a given day and you see things like you go to Barnes and Noble, they offer like a loyalty card, buy more books with us, we'll give you a discount and you think, well, why are they doing that? How does that make economic sense? And you want to try to figure it out so you just want to try to figure things out. It's almost a Sherlock Holmes like game and there's always more and more and more and more and more and it drives you crazy, but it's fun.</p> <p>David:              What is it about China and India in particular that appealed to you?</p> <p>Tyler:              Obviously they're two highly populous countries. The US could have a billion more people and we'd still be, you know, the third most populous country in the world. China now by at least one measure has the world's largest GDP and I'm an economist. India is probably headed to having the world's largest GDP. So it does go back and think, imagine you're a British person in 1910, like what should you study? Where should you travel? Well, the United States. To complain that you don't like the pollution or not all the food is what you expect. It's irrelevant, right? You go to the United States, if you don't, you're kind of a dummy. So for me right now, China, India, that's like the United States in 1910. I feel obliged to learn it more by obligation, but it's fun. It's also a passion.</p> <p>David:              So when you're going about learning something like China, India, of course you'd go to the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/michael-bloomberg">Bloomberg New York Times</a>, but I think that there is, to back to nerd culture, there are probably certain sections of the Internet of the world that will give you a very rich experience that the average person wouldn't get.</p> <p>David:              You seem to be very good at that. How have you been thinking about studying China in India in a way that most people wouldn't think about?</p> <p>Tyler:              China and India I consider hard to learn because when you read about their histories, things don't fall into intuitive categories that maybe they do for Chinese people for instance, but all the different dynasties, they tend to blur together. You could read the same Chinese history book a bunch of times in a row and at the end you're still confused and you don't really know how to place it all, so to pick some side areas, so for me, Chinese food or Indian classical music or certain features of Chinese geography or ethnic regional culture and to learn those well and just keep on attacking the elephant from all these different sides rather than just, "Oh, I'm going to sit down and read this book on Chinese history.".</p> <p>Tyler:              That tends not to work. It works really well for like Paris or the Florentine Renaissance, but for unfamiliar parts of the world and I look for these sideways in the door.</p> <p>David:              Well, let's dive into China first. Where in China have you been and what have the really striking experiences been for you during your travels set?</p> <p>Tyler:              My goal is to go to all the provinces in China in a significant way and not just putting a toe in. I'm past the halfway point. My favorite part of China is the west and the southwest, especially Yunnan province. It's highly exotic. It's about half regional minorities. That has some of China's best food. It's extremely reasonably priced that has remarkably little pollution by Chinese standards. People are very friendly, uh, there are actually quite pro-american because of the history of America. Helping them out in the war against Japan is just amazing fun.</p> <p>Tyler:              I think right now it's probably the best trip in the world is to go to western China.</p> <p>David:              Wow. So western China and eastern China, of course, because we're just talking about GDP, it seems like most of that would be concentrated in eastern China. So let's start with western China. What is it about it that makes it so interesting and is it authentic to what's happening in China because it is so different demographically.</p> <p>Tyler:              Authentic is a tricky word. So if you go to Oregon is not authentic America. Well yeah, but it's not typical either. Nor is New Jersey. So southwestern China, it's just accessible and it's fun. So Beijing I love. It's fantastic. Everyone should go multiple times, but in some ways it's a tough slog. A lot of the city is ugly. The pollution can be awful and it's so large. It's not really walkable for the most part, although it's walkable within neighborhoods.</p> <p>Tyler:              You can go to Beijing and think you don't really like China. That's the wrong impression. So I would say Udon, it's like this backdoor into China and it will open up ways of thinking about China and then when you go to Beijing you'll like Beijing a lot more. So you know, to get to Udon, you probably have to go through Beijing to fly there. So yeah, stop in Beijing for a day, but find the back doors that get your passions and that's going to be western China.</p> <p>David:              And now in terms of what I would consider, I don't know if this is totally true, but that's how I model China. There are four big mega cities. You know there's, there's the manufacturing center, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing. Can you talk about the differences between them?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, Guangzhou and Chongqing are also mega cities.  Some people believe Chongqing, which now has been made its own province is bigger than any other locality in China. We don't even know because there are so many people who are within China, in essence, illegal migrants. We're not sure how many people are are there. The different parts of China until recently have not been economically integrated, so they have cuisines that are quite unlike each other, maybe more unlike each other than different European cuisines. Visually, some parts will look the same because these mega cities have been built up recently using more or less common patterns so you can have the deceiving impression that you're going to the same place over and over again, even though you're traveling to many parts of China, but European say that about the US often like "Oh, the whole country feels the same." If you live here, you know, it's not true, right? There aren't really significant differences.</p> <p>Tyler:              So to go to Hunan Province or to go to Shenyang in the northeast, which is near North Korea, or go to, you know, Chengdu in Sichuan and forgive all my pronunciations which are not proper Chinese. Uh, you're seeing much more diversity than anything you're likely to do in either Europe or the US. You're seeing what's now the world's most important country. Again, I can't stress how favorable the prices are. You can stay in a five star luxury hotel in most parts of China other than Beijing or Shanghai for less than $100 a night and it will be, you know, a wonderful quality experience and the best food in the world, you know, a meal will never have to cost you more than $20 unless you order a highly unusual dish like shark fin soup. So if you're on any kind of budget, there was no reason not to go.</p> <p>Tyler:              Crime is close to zero for women overall it's quite safe. I mean everywhere it has some problems, but as the world goes, one of the best areas to travel in solo if you're a woman. The main reason not to go is air pollution. But again in the west that's a much smaller problem.</p> <p>David:              Right. I was reading that there have been 16,000,000 new bikes installed in China in the last year and a half and, and a lot of people are saying that the changes in transportation there may do something at least to help boost the air pollution, which I thought was interesting, but I want to dive into infrastructure. How has being in China, uh, changed the way that you think about infrastructure and sort of the way that you think about how development happens?</p> <p>Tyler:              Infrastructure is their specialty. They have, what is one of the world's two or three best train systems given how large the country is, that's important. A remarkable thing about traveling and mainland China is you can wake up in the morning and one city and be in almost any other part of China the same day just by taking a train trip and you'll see amazing things on the way. But in terms of planning your journey, everything is within a day without having to mess around with flights and with flights, you don't see what's in between. So you can go like Beijing to Shiyan see the terracotta warriors, that's maybe about six hours. So there's this remarkable sense of freedom you have because of the infrastructure. Along so many dimensions, now they are probably more innovative than we are. And to see that is impressive, we Americans are so complacent and smog. We think where the world's innovators, the Europeans lag behind true on average, but China does something like the payment system.</p> <p>Tyler:              There's this way quicker and much better and you'll come back here and curse, like having a, you know, stick your chip in the thing and it doesn't always work. They're rebuilding their world in some ways. They're outdoing us.</p> <p>David:              In terms of innovative. How do you define innovative and in what sense do they have an advantage by by not having had the PC and being able to jump straight to sort of a mobile first world?</p> <p>Tyler:              In some cases, they're just not locked into older systems as you mentioned. Also, this is more disturbing. We should be bothered by this by having less rule of law. They can just "do things and get them done" and that's not always a good thing. A privacy law. They don't have the concerns you would have in Europe or the United States, but a Chinese payment typically is you take out your smartphone, you scan a qr code, it can be done in a second and a half.</p> <p>Tyler:              The error rate seems to be very low. Uh, it's processed perfectly well. It's cheaper, better, quicker and more convenient than what we do and they beat us and we're not really catching up. And we need, uh, to absorb that lesson for the first time maybe ever. But at least for a long time, the US now has a peer country. Like Soviet Union was never that peer, only with weapons were they a peer. China in terms of creativity and GDP. Arguably right now is a peer. You ought to go and learn from your peer, right? How can you not do that?</p> <p>David:              Yeah. I couldn't agree more. I was talking to a friend last night. I think Hong Kong might be a good place or Shanghai might be a good place to spend a couple of years, but I want to talk about travel in terms of how do you think about travel?</p> <p>David:              So I'll be honest, I did a euro trip recently and I didn't get quite the experience that I wanted because before we had never really come to a consensus on what does travel mean and it's not something that a lot of younger people, at least in my, in terms of my friends really think about. So how do you think about travel and what are you looking to do when you do travel?</p> <p>Tyler:              I like to go weird places. So I did a European trip this summer. It was in August. I went to Macedonia. The country where people hardly ever go. Most of the tourist are either Russian or Serbian. Uh, but certainly not many Americans are there. Again, it's completely safe. Prices are very favorable. I had perfect weather, beautiful sights, tenth century monasteries, all kinds of sculpture. Remarkably good cheeses, breads and meats, wonderful food, wonderful lake fish. A lot of history. A lot of geopolitics you understand much better why the Balkans are messed up and just like how Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo fit together together.</p> <p>Tyler:              I've tried reading that in books. I can't grasp it. I go there, but the mix of going there and the books, somehow it all works and you see this country where the politics are so different from what we're used to in Europe. You just again have to reexamine everything. So I say to people like, go weird, like yes, at some point you should see Paris, but if all you do is see Paris, maybe you'll be a little bored. Where did you go?</p> <p>David:              In Europe?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah.</p> <p>David:              We went to Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, and Budapest.</p> <p>Tyler:              You should have seen Paris! Those are all the same, it's like an airport shopping mall.</p> <p>David:              I couldn't agree more and exactly. And then, so over the new year's I was in Chile.</p> <p>Tyler:              One of my favorites by the way.  </p> <p>David:              So my dad is a total nut. And so what we did was, it was new year's day and we went to go see some hieroglyphics up in the Atacama desert in the northern part of the country. It's the driest place in the world.</p> <p>Tyler:              And one of the best trips you can take.</p> <p>David:              Yes, it was wonderful. So it's new year's day and we'd go to the person at the front of the hieroglyphics and we say at where's the closest place to get lunch? And he said, it's new years day, it's all closed. So he said, but I have a friend, she can cook you food. So we go into this little town, all adobe houses, just a gravel streets. And this woman, Sherry and her husband had left her. She was quite lonely unfortunately, but we spent the entire afternoon with her. She, you know, she had chickens in the backyard, llamas in the backyard and it was the richest experience I had in a long time traveling.</p> <p>Tyler:              And the food there is excellent, right? It's quite safe. Infrastructure is surprisingly good given how remote it is and there's some magic to Chile, some kind of warmth but also efficiency where it just hits that sweet spot and it's both familiar and exotic at the same time.</p> <p>David:              Yeah. All right, back to India. So, now we'll get into India. So how have you been thinking about learning about India? I know at least in India is much, it's very different in terms of there's a lot of different languages, lots of different cultures. I think a lot of westerners don't realize that.</p> <p>Tyler:              I've been quite a few times to India. I've never gotten sick. I'm very fortunate. Some people do. I'm not sure how to weigh this risk, but I've done all kinds of things. Eating what I've wanted and just been fine every day. Maybe it's just because I travel a lot. Indian classical music I think is one of mankind's greatest creations ever. I would say going to the classical music festival in Chennai in December, I took my daughter to that. We both loved it. For food, India and China. Clearly the two best countries in the way better than any Michelin Guide and way cheaper. Everything is new and fresh and undiscovered and diverse. India's tough in a way that China isn't. So, China is poorer than what we're used to, but there's some grinding poverty in the countryside, but for the most part going around is not depressing. In India it can be. The air pollution can be worse than in China. The population density, the cities are out of control in a way you would not say about China. Chinese cities are way less dense than outsiders expect.</p> <p>Tyler:              Hong Kong is much denser than most parts of the typical Chinese city would be. So being in a Chinese city is a lot more pleasant than people expect, especially, uh, if it's not a major city, but India, my goodness, traffic, monsoon, disease. But there's something about the notion of ideas there. The religion, spirituality kind of syncretic something that is just magic and creative and nowhere else in the world do you get it and you're just bombarded with it the whole time. And people fall in love with India and they should. And you will. It's tough. I could, you know, you gotta be ready.</p> <p>David:              Talk more about the spirituality aspect because it's almost become trendy to talk about the eastern thought and, and, and whatnot. And I'm not discrediting it, but I think it's miss misinterpreted by many westerners.</p> <p>Tyler:              Keep in mind, I'm not myself a religious person. I wouldn't even say I'm spiritual. I don't really believe in anything in particular. So when I say it's rich in religion and spirituality, that for me actually has mixed sides and it may be partly a reason why India is not richer or has problems with public health, but the old saying when it comes to religion, every Indian is a millionaire, maybe is true, but don't think it's an entirely positive thing. But the ways in which religious ways of thinking suffuse the entire culture, uh, there are few other countries where that runs so deep and so thick and also in a diverse way. You have multiple religions including Christianity. And to learn those by going to India is one of the things you get there. It's one of the world's largest countries with Muslims, right? Maybe it's number three and I think. Indonesia number one, Pakistan, number two.</p> <p>Tyler:              I'm not sure if India is ahead of Bangladeshi behind it for Muslims, but obviously it's significant for Muslim culture. Janes, different kinds of Hindus, Sikhs and every city, every state is so different in a way people will engage with you is so fresh and this kind of deep burning curiosity to somehow incorporate what you know into what they think. Uh, to me there is very strong and I find very attractive.</p> <p>David:              This is going to be sort of part of a broader question. Are you reading books, blogs and we'll start there and then we'll get to the distinction between books and blogs and different forms of media.</p> <p>Tyler:              If it's India and China, uh, I take very different approaches. India, I find reading books much more useful than for China. Maybe it's because of the history intersects with European history more. But reading books on India, a lot more sticks with me than with China. Uh, I haven't found that many good blogs on India. It may just be my defect, but if you just read plenty of books on India and go and in terms of cinema and music and cuisine, try to actually learn things about those before you go. Fashion, design, textiles, studying history of Indian textiles is one of the best ways to learn Indian history and it can structure your tourism and where you go and maybe even what you buy. So there were more entry points for India. Whereas for Chinese music, I mean I've tried, I liked Chinese opera, but I don't find it that useful. A lot of it to me, I just don't enjoy Chinese popular music. I enjoy much less than Indian popular music. So for China it's much more important that I be there and talk to Chinese people, which you can do here as well of course.</p> <p>Tyler:              So I approached those two countries in a very different way. And India also I find I have a kind of stamina problem. I'm in very good health. I walk a lot, travel a lot, but it's hard for me day after day to be outdoors in Indian cities all day long. Just like pollution, noise, different indignities. I can't do it. Uh, with China, unless it's a very smoggy day I can. In India I paced myself much more. I spent a lot more time indoors. It's a little bit inefficient.</p> <p>David:              So let's get back to different forms of media. How do you think about books versus blogs? It's something that I debate a lot with my friends. Um, how do you think about it and what advice would you give to younger people as media begins to shift like it is.</p> <p>Tyler:              I mean mostly books are still better. There's way more knowledge in books than blogs and it's easier to find out how good a book is by reading reviews. Not that reviews are perfect, but you get a sense, you know, maybe blogging peaked about 10 years ago and I'm happy that I'm still blogging. Like our readership actually is not down at all. It's maybe up a little, but I don't think in general, blogs are a good way to learn about countries. They're very good for a particular food scenes. Like where should I eat in Mumbai? There'll be a food blog about Mumbai that will be way better than any book and then use the blog. But history of India, you know, just read some good books and they're there, read Indian fiction. Find these other entry points, like history of Indian textiles.</p> <p>David:              That's interesting that you talk about entry points. Is that something that you apply in other domains?</p> <p>Tyler's secret to learning: Don’t try to learn things head on. Look for entry points instead.💡 <a href="https://t.co/kUbVRNSdKo">pic.twitter.com/kUbVRNSdKo</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480464451002370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>Tyler:              Everything always has entry points. If you try to learn things head on, I just find I fail usually, entry points I succeed. More motivated pieces, start to fit together.</p> <p>David:              Recent example?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, take Macedonia, so I've been learning more about Macedonia history by studying, reading about Macedonian woodcarving. So by woodcarving you learn something about the religion, you learn something about the monasteries, you're learning what were the errors, where they were most creative, where it's just rereading political history I don't get-.</p> <p>David:              Like reading the Wikipedia page.</p> <p>Tyler:              That's right. So uh, there are always other entry points for any place and you know, they need to be ones that interest you, but basic ones are going to be food, music, art, design. Architecture is a very good one. Right. Architecture in Macedonia is very interesting. I read quite a bit about that.</p> <p>David:              I'm curious to hear more about architecture and different from Macedonia to India to China.</p> <p>Tyler:              Take the main city in Macedonia, Skopje. it had a complete makeover within the last 10 years. And they put up a large number of statues in a kind of older style, almost eastern European brutalist style. Many people hate them, some people quite like them for the most part. I liked them, but if you imagine some parts of Las Vegas, which are a bit garish and they put up big things to impress the viewers. A lot of Skopje looks like that, but it's done not In the kitschy way, but with, you know, uh, no wink from the eye and with no smile on the face, they just did it. And the city has been transformed and it's this major political issue and it was a dispute should they have spent so much money. So one way to learn Macedonia is to learn about the statues dispute.</p> <p>Tyler:              And then so many of the statues are historically controversial. Like there's a statue of someone who would seem to be Alexander the great, but the Greeks can't claim Alexander the Great. So if it's explicitly Alexander, the Greeks get upset, will be more concerned with blocking their entry into the European Union. So it's Alexander, but it isn't Alexander and just by reading about the statute that both is and isn't Alexander the great at the same time is a great way to learn about Macedonian history, politics more generally, international relations. So I think architecture is one of the best entry points and it's something you always see, right? Like you can't avoid it anywhere you go. And if it's ugly, often so much the better.</p> <p>David:              Now to China, the balance or the almost to the juxtaposition of totally modern these grand structures. And then the old.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's hard to find good old things in many parts of China. There are the old neighborhoods which they're clearing out of Beijing, but there's still some left. Uh, those to me are very charming just to walk through them. I can do, you know, for hours that's fun and they'll have great places to eat. Chinese mega cities. Uh, they are an acquired taste. The last one I was in was Chongqing, which is in western China. It's, you know, maybe 20,000,000 people just in enormous number of skyscrapers and they're not that distinctive, but the rivers of the city and the way it's laid out, it nonetheless has a distinctive field and if you walk around it enough, you will get that. Uh, and the ugliness or at least the non attractiveness of the architecture I actually like it. It is something you need to learn, but it's, it's part of what being there means, you know, it's not all gonna look like Venice, nor do I want it to.</p> <p>David:              So when you go into these cities and you're meeting people and trying to learn as much as you can, is that similar to the way that you conduct your Conversations with Tyler series? What is your philosophy of interviewing so to speak?</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I picked the people I want to talk to, so I'm very selfish. I'm not paid to do this, so I should have fun. On average, I spend maybe a month preparing for a guest. Maybe I'll have done that reading all right. But even then I'll reread it. So it's gotta be like, look, I want to spend a month doing this or like why, you know, I'm not, I don't care about you all listeners now and it's a way of focusing my reading. It's actually an entry point. So I'm going to interview <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat">Ross Douthat</a> in December. I'm friends with Ross, he's a great thinker, awesome columnist.</p> <p>Tyler:              But Ross for me is also an entry point actually into understanding Catholicism. And if I just sat down and read about the Catholic Church, a lot of it would be boring. But if I read, well I'm going to try to figure out what does <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat">Ross Douthat</a> think about this Catholic issue. I learned so much more about Catholicism because Ross is my entry point. So I picked guests to be entry points.</p> <p>David:              And then when you're actually doing the interview, what are you thinking about? What, what, how are you thinking tactically about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              I don't know if people should emulate each other because you know, we're all different, but I take everything that person has done and I hold it in my mind all at the same time right before and during the interview. And that's extremely strenuous, so for me to do one of these interviews is the most strenuous thing I do in life. Much harder than giving a talk and I'm quite exhausted when it's over, even though they do much more of the talking because having to hold all the information in my brain, it's like playing a very hard chess game.</p> <p>Tyler:              And then when the interview's over, I lose like 90 percent of it within half an hour. But maybe it's made my understanding of things deeper. Uh, but during the interview I feel I have access to kind of everything I've taken in, almost in a magical way. Uh, I'm not sure other people can or should emulate that, but that's how it is for me. It's very intimidating. I think people have realized now when they're interviewed by me, I kind of know some of their stuff better than they do and I'm not that slow, so I'm not trying to screw them over and make them look stupid at all. Quite the contrary. But when someone's trying to make you look really smart, it's actually harder than when someone's trying to refute you.</p> <p>David:              That's interesting. In <a href="https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/ben-sasse-tyler-cowen-book-twitter-trump-cb5b4a435323"> your interview with Ben Sasse</a>, it was really wonderful. I've listened to it three or four times. I've read his books since and what really struck me was the notion of a multi career life, the idea that it used to be perhaps that you worked for a corporation the rest of your life or be a tenured professional like yourself, but now that's beginning to change. How should young people be thinking about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah, teaching yourself how to learn and relearn. So there's all this talk, oh, I learn from my school, or you know, business will retrain me someday. No one retrains you, your business, your employer might help you, but you're retrain yourself. That's one reason why wage inequality is up. Not many people are good at this. So learning how to retrain yourself, I think getting mentors in any new area is very, very important. It's still underrated even though I think it's pretty highly rated. Uh, I mean, those are some basic tips I would give people.</p> <p>David:              In terms of mentors, I'll push back on you a little. Is it worth taking the time to actually get a mentor in real life? Like what would the benefit of that when I could listen to your Conversations with Tyler series and all these other incredible podcasts and in some ways that are a similar mentorship. It's just not so personal.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's great to do that, but a mentorship by being alive and physical makes so many things emotionally vivid for you. And I think for eighty percent of people, uh, that's extremely important. So the mentor is like another kind of entry point into something. And some click happens in your mind, like why something is important. You learn by meeting the person and interacting with them and it may just be two or three hours in your life. It doesn't have to be an ongoing thing. Right? Uh, and I think we still undervalue that, trying to meet those few right people who will open a few intellectual doors for you.</p> <p>David:              So who have the mentors has been for you? I know your, when you were getting your, uh, PhD in economics and then, uh, Mr. Shelling, right?</p> <p>Tyler:              At Harvard, he was an important mentor for me and also he gave me a vision of what it could mean to succeed that I hadn't quite had before, but my most important mentors, you know, I was a teenager. So there was a fellow named Walter Grinder. Probably my most important mentor. I met him, I'm guessing I was 14 and Walter at the time was not a, he's never had really worldly success, but he was the person I met who had read and understood more books than anyone else and he still would be one of the few like of anyone I've ever met who's read and understood more than anyone else.</p> <p>Tyler:              And I just saw that in him and I thought like, well I want to be some version of this. And that was one of the biggest events in my life was meeting and getting to know Walter Grinder.</p> <p>David:              Keep going on that. That's really interesting.</p> <p>Tyler:              And I think it wasn't easy for me to see Walter. I didn't drive, he was a friend of my father's like we had some meals together. I met him some number of times or take the bus into New York, see him there, but it wasn't an amazing amount of contact, but the contact we had, I got that vision and I would always ask Walter, well, Walter, what should I read? And I would read what he recommended, but what he recommended was actually not important. What was important was to kind of see the wheels turning in his head, like how he thought about what he was reading was way more important than any particular book he recommended.</p> <p>David:              Do you have rules for how you think about those things?</p> <p>Tyler:              I don't know if there are rules, but thinking strategically and philosophically about management is one of the most important things almost anyone can do because it's hard for me to think of anyone who is as productive solo is with other people and other people can multiply both your impact and your learning by many, many, many times. Right? Like if you had to go to a bookstore and read all the books on management, they're kind of a harbor right? There are kind of like self-help books. They're cliches. It's like building a team is important, they're boring, maybe they're even wrong. So the entry points for management are so hard and I think they are people and it goes back to mentors. Maybe you can only learn whatever it is you know about management from mentors and not management books. But that, too, is oddly under appreciated for something that's so oversold. It's nonetheless underappreciated.</p> <p>David:              In <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31283667-stubborn-attachments"> Stubborn Attachments</a>. Your most recent, I don't know if I could call it a book, but it was something of that form. Yeah, output. You talked about the power of compounding and what is it? Of course it's important and finance and of course people have uh, many people have a elementary idea of it. But what do you made that sort of the, the core theme of that book? and why?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah, so much of what people write is autobiographical. So I could give you a kind of objective philosophical answer as to why I think compounding is important. But I prefer to give you a biographical answer. So right now I'm 55 and I started on all the assignments at actually 13 or 14, so that's over 40 years of stuff. So I'm not old. I'm, you know, in good health and very full of energy. But like, no more years of history. I've had more years of learning. So the idea, you should have a very long time horizon and be totally determined and persistent and like none of us are really that able or smart at all. We're all kinds of blundering fools. But if you just get some rate of improvement and just let it keep on compounding, I mean you can do pretty well. I'm a big believer in that as a form of biography. Same is true with travel. I think every year I traveled better and more wisely and it's more fun for me because I learned things from the last time I travel. So you always want to be on some kind of cycle. Our curve where you're compounding.</p> <p>David:              I'm glad I'm not the only blundering fool then. Um, so. So when did that become clearer and clearer to you? When did you begin to have an intuitive sense of that and then what were, as somebody who's 23 years old, somebody who's just beginning their career, what would I not understand about compounding that, you know.</p> <p>Tyler:              In my early forties, I actually realized what I was doing, so I was doing it for over 25 years and not even knowing what I was doing, which makes me really a blundering fool. But the things I had learned much earlier, like started to pay off in my research and my books, like ideas finally gelled after 25 years. And also the Internet gave me a platform for putting them out there. My abilities to sort of think about and evaluate projects became sharper and a lot of things came together for me, you know, in my early forties, which is probably later than average. And then I kind of thought back then, you know, I've been kind of working towards this for a long time and I didn't even know it.</p> <p>David:              The book, out of all the ideas that you've written about, the one that is truly fascinating to me is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a>. Can you give a brief overview and how have your ideas from that book changed over time?</p> <p>Tyler:             <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a>. I think it came out four years ago now. I'm not sure, but it basically looks at the implications of a world where computers can do so much and artificial intelligence is here and on the way. So I think if people just falling into two categories there, they've either found a way that the computer augments their skill and then they can do very, very well in life or they're in some way competing against computers and software and then the chance they lose is actually pretty high. Like if you were to play an ordinary travel agent 25 years ago, right now you're probably doing something else. Maybe you can plan boutique holidays or wealthy people, but odds are, you know, <a href="https://www.expedia.com/">Expedia</a> and <a href="https://www.orbitz.com/">Orbitz</a> have outcompeted you. So this is driving some of the income inequality, which is not a comfortable reality, but I think it's one we have to face. And what we want to do is get as many people as possible on the better side of that division.</p> <p>Tyler:              And part of the book is how to do that and how to think about this for your own career, your own skills.</p> <p>David:              You mentioned self learning. What else would be the big important things?</p> <p>Tyler:              Conscientiousness, persistence, determination, kind of very old school moral virtues I think matter much more now than they did 25 years ago. That's counter-intuitive. But if you just stick to some version of classical morality and keep a long time horizon, I think today opportunities have never been better. But of course it's not easy for most of us to do.</p> <p>David:              Has in terms of opportunities then, has the Internet changed how you think about planning? Like are you're thinking about planning on shorter time horizons more opportunistically?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yes, and I've never thought that much about planning anyway. That's one of the ways in which I'm a blundering fool.</p> <p>David:              Haha, we're going to call this episode "Tyler Cowen is a blundering fool."</p> <p>Tyler:              Haha. And again, everything I'm saying, I'm not recommending for other people. I would just stress how different people are, find your own way, but just to tell you how I've thought about it for myself, I said if I can find things that to me are fun, compounding will kick in in my favor and all the blunders I make in the meantime will come out in the wash. I really actively maybe recommend against that for most people. But that was my so-called planning, was to have fun.</p> <p>David:              Wonderful. Going to do a little pivot here. You seem to have a big love for basketball and the <a href="http://www.nba.com/">NBA</a>, but besides basketball, what do you love about the NBA?</p> <p>Tyler:              It's drama, right? It's better than most theater, but it's actually happening. So what really matters to the people? You don't have to suspend belief. It's an entry point into understanding a lot about America.</p> <p>Tyler:              The NBA in particular is an entry point to understanding a lot about race. The NBA is far more international than before and it's a way of being in touch with parts of American life and commercialization and also media and television that otherwise I wouldn't necessarily intersect with that much and it's just plain outright fun. And last night I watched the <a href="http://www.nba.com/wizards/">Wizards</a> play their first game of the year.</p> <p>David:              That <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wall_(basketball)">John Wall</a> dunk was crazy.</p> <p>Tyler:              It was, it was kind of an awful ugly game and I'm not going to watch again for a while. I got it out of my system and I'll follow every game. And as the playoffs approach, I'll watch it a bit more. I'm going to a game December fifteenth with <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/experts/philip-a-wallach/">Philip Wallach</a>. That'll be great fun. And he and I will talk social science.</p> <p>David:              There we go. Well, I'm going to try to go tomorrow night, but I want to dive into the Wizards. I'm curious to hear about what you said about NBA in America, sports in America. I, uh, it was with some friends the other day and I argued that sports was actually the best way to learn about America and now I'm going to use your entry point theory. What do you have to say about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              I had breakfast with <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/george-f-will">George Will</a> a few weeks ago when I said to him, you know, today you probably understand the country better if you read the sports page than if you read the news page. It's more like what people are actually doing. There's something quite normal that sports but sports. It's also extremely bizarre. You care so much about like your team, which is arbitrary. Like these guys. They're not from Washington. I don't even identify with Washington. I don't know them that might be bigger jerks than the <a href="http://www.nba.com/celtics/">Boston Celtics</a> and I root, you know, very hard for them to beat the Celtics and you realize how much of like human nature is expressive. How much some of it's like politics. Uh, you know, how much in some ways sports, like mirrors hunting and some very old pastimes of male competition and bonding. It's also a way of studying how statistics matter, what you can measure and not measure. Management, teamwork. Sports is a wonderful entry point for all these things.</p> <p>David:              Sports abroad in other countries. What have your experiences been? To go back to the beginning of this conversation.</p> <p>Tyler:              I once saw a professional basketball game in New Zealand, which is a much lower quality of play, but that too is interesting. I tried to see a game in Spain. I failed to. I'd love to see professional basketball game in China. Uh, I consider that an under-explored area where I'd like to do more.</p> <p>David:              Yeah.I find the relationship interesting, to go back to basketball. The relationship between China and America with the NBA.</p> <p>Tyler:              A great entry point into China, is to read all of that stuff in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury">Marbury</a>. His experiences in China and you will see sides of China much more clearly than you would get out of reading a book on Chinese history.</p> <p>David:              What is that story about again?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury">Stephon Marbury</a> was sort of a top player here, but not actually that good. And he shot the ball too much and he was out of control and not a great teammate. And uh, he had some injury problems. He quit. He reinvents himself in China and he's a huge success in China. They've even erected statues to Stephon Marbury and China's, he's a major endorser. He's had his own movie, I think for awhile a TV show. And how Chinese treat celebrities and how they think about African Americans and how they reward athletic excellence in ways in which they're either more tolerant or more rewarding or more brutal. Like compare the story of Stephon Marbury with China's own <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao_Ming">Yao Ming</a> who it seems was bred, eugenically bred to be a star basketball player. That too, is insight into China. Basketball, one of the best entry points into China.</p> <p>David:              Chinese celebrity. Let's go down that rabbit hole.</p> <p>Tyler:              So, China of course is a big country and the media are very important and they have <a href="https://web.wechat.com/">Wechat</a>, which is more powerful than our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a>. It performs some similar functions, but more. Uh, China has become a celebrity culture in a very short period of time. And in some ways it's copied a somewhat earlier version of American celebrity culture than we have now. Now it's in some ways more Internet based, but Chinese celebrity is a sign of China being domesticated and less authoritarian than you might think reading the news pages and it's very aspirational and to see what celebrity looks like and a culture that is much more aspirational than ours. Ours is much more complacent. That to me is a very interesting contrast.</p> <p>David:              We gotta dive into the complacency. Compare the similarities and the differences in terms of complacency between China and America. Because when I see the data, I concur with your argument, but living in Manhattan, it's not what I feel whatsoever.</p> <p>Tyler:              Manhattan, of course, is an outlier and when you say Manhattan, there are many Manhattan's. But if you think about China, my first visit was 1989. There were hardly any cars. Everyone was on a bicycle. Maybe you'd be lucky to have a bicycle. It was a very, very poor place. And now, uh, it's about as.... Well, it has a higher total GDP than ours, but it's better off than most other emerging economies per capita. They've had a 35 or more year run, that's one of the two or three most impressive runs in human history ever, and this is the only one for a billion plus people. So it could be the most important event in human history ever. Or one of the top three or four. So just that alone is like, oh my goodness. But there's still high risk in China.</p> <p>Tyler:              If you don't get out there and like master something, that risk will come and get you and crush you. If you were born into an educated family in this country, that's typically not the case. Someone can take care of you or you can get a job or a degree where you get by. You can be a slacker. Um, China, people expect everything to change every 10 years. It has been for them. They're used to this, they consider it a norm. They're not complacent. Life there is much more stressful in most ways. It's much less pleasant in many ways. But it's also more real and at least in that one big way. And now they are determined to outdo us and they're making a real go with it. That's like, how can you not want to go and see that?</p> <p>David:              Also as a young person, I first of all feel compelled to make that change, but also not something that, of course the American media is covering very much.</p> <p>Tyler:              There's so many articles on millennials, right? Millennial this, millennial that. So in a sense, all ideas about millennials are covered whether they're true or false, but none of them seem to get any traction is I suppose how I view it.</p> <p>David:              So how do you view the millennial generation?</p> <p>Tyler:              They're the nicest, most tolerant generation we've had, but I don't think that's an entirely good thing. And so far they're slated to be a relatively complacent generation. Maybe somewhat less ambitious, taking fewer chances, wanting safe spaces, which makes sense given the constraints they had been faced. But I worry that they're not replenishing America's cultural capital for generations to follow.</p> <p>Ah, the millennial question 😯😯😯 Millennials are the nicest, most tolerant generation we’ve ever had. But it’s not entirely a good thing... <a href="https://t.co/ejXISxt5Mu">pic.twitter.com/ejXISxt5Mu</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922481350824865792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              Talk about those constraints. But also, I'm interested in the dichotomy of millennials are both complacent and entitled.</p> <p>Tyler:              A lot of millennials grew up in families that had a lot of wealth, right, more than ever before. That leads to a sense of entitlement. There is way more helicopter parenting for these people than ever before, which I think is mostly a negative, but they also grow up in this slow job market. Sometimes very slow depending on their age, no fault of their own. They grow up in a much more globalizing world, so an investor is thinking like, should I hire this millennial or should I send my capital to Vietnam where someone will be just as smart, maybe harder working and do something for a tenth of the wage, and we see a lot of people choosing the ladder. I wouldn't say that it's anyone's fault, but it makes it a different world. You either decide, well, I'm going to be the next <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg">Mark Zuckerberg</a>, and there's a class of people like that who've been phenomenal, or you just decide like, look, I can't really compete. It's gotten too hard, but these stocks have wealth or enough. I can protect myself. The Internet is fun. TV is great. Maybe people are into recreational drugs, whatever level or kind of sex nuanced way easier to get them before.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's like, well, why not do that? That's pretty good. Right?</p> <p>David:              Right. I mean it's funny because I see almost all so many of these ads in New York are surrounded around "It'd support you to just stay home and we will bring it all to you.".</p> <p>Tyler:              That's why the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/">Amazon</a> will deliver whatever or <a href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a> streaming, everything's delivered now and that to me is the cultural negative even though obviously it's super convenient.</p> <p>David:              So what is it about China and India? What is in the water there that is having things be different because of course they have the Internet.</p> <p>Tyler:              Well they're much poorer so that's something bad in the water and they're growing at much higher rates because they're doing catch-up growth and the background level of risk there is very high, which again makes living there extremely unpleasant, not for the billionaires, but for most ordinary people, their incomes can fluctuate much more. Trying to get good healthcare in China, much, much harder than here at any price you may have to pay. And then bribe your doctor again. Even then the, you know, the pharmaceuticals you get might just be fake. You'll never really know until you live or die. We don't face that kind of challenge and our healthcare system is pretty screwed up, right? So, uh, that makes them less complacent.</p> <p>Tyler:              So the idea that not all good things come together, I feel is very hard for America to grasp right now. And the fact that we've made our lives pleasant and safer, which on net, I favor that that's also very costly. Again, it's a point being made by myself, by others, but it's not appointed distraction.</p> <p>David:              Yeah, I thought what you said on a previous interview was just that mediocrity is underrated.</p> <p>Tyler:              That's right, mediocre life is a great life. Like if you can just keep it going live til 80, whatever your thing is, the Internet, the drugs, the sex, some nonlinear combination thereof. There were like, you have your three kids, uh, you know, it's going to be diverse, but like, that's really good. You cannot be starving, but you don't have to be Mark Zuckerberg. And if I think of myself, uh, you know, I'm not like really of wealth, but I think I have a better life than, you know, most really wealthy people. It's more fun, more challenging.</p> <p>David:              Well, the final question I'm asking you is then, what are the tenants that you've looked for in terms of building that life and in terms of what has given you that life? What are the things you know, the pillars of what makes it so enjoyable for you?</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I think so much of what we are we're born with, um, so we admit that about yourself, like figure out what you're really good at, which is going to be something for almost everyone. Like try to build on that. Be pretty honest with yourself about what you're not good at. Like it has to be fun because you need to stay motivated and it's a more competitive world order. But the opportunities are there and uh, you know, do something different than what I did, but do something like I'm waiting for you to do something for me. Here I am impatient, wanting more fun. You do it, bring me stuff.</p> <p>David:              OK, well now I want to hear more.</p> <p>Tyler:              My main idea is not any idea at all. It's a method. It's a personal method and it's a method of learning. It's take wherever you're at and just try to push your understanding deeper. Don't spend time telling yourself that you're right and other people are wrong and try to talk about other people being wrong as little as possible. If someone bugs you in your twitter feed, don't let it bug you, either ignore them or stop following them because you'll start thinking how right you are and how wrong they are. That will screw up your learning path. Just like stay the compounding returns of learning more and more curious, better and deeper questions. Your current level of understanding is always that of a blundering fool in some way, but you want to be waltzing along that curve on the compounding returns and just always asking better questions and just obsess over that and so much getaway from like a fixed doctrine of, you know, whatever.  </p> <p>Incredible advice. “My main idea is not any idea at all… it’s a method of learning. Always ask better questions and obsess over that." <a href="https://t.co/aWpryqWfb1">pic.twitter.com/aWpryqWfb1</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480784690286592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              Yeah, because that's what's so hard about about university is it like tells you almost what I know, what I need to do or know what I need to learn it. It's like the antithesis of curiosity.</p> <p>Tyler:              Yes, and it's too homework geared, which is a crime. High school, all the more so and our education system is failing us and this thing called the Internet has come along and for actual learning has so out competed what we call education.</p> <p>David:              It's not even close.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's not even close and so much of the internet is free. It's not all free but free or fairly cheap and it works on principles that are so much better than what you're given in so many classes. So I think the time is right for some real revolution where what we call education in some ways becomes more like the Internet and we're going about it wrong.</p> <p>Tyler:              So what we're doing now is we're taking education as we knew it and we're adding on the Internet, which I'm all for by the way. So you assign a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/">YouTube</a> video in your class and students email you again? Fine. No reason not to be excited about that, but the real gain is to make the Internet the center and they add on the education at the fringes and we're very far from doing that.</p> <p>David:              So then as information becomes abundant, the scarce resources should then shift into something else. So what is becoming scarce?</p> <p>Tyler:              Motivation, and that's the theme in my book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a> that you asked about. How can you motivate yourself, how can you motivate others? The real scarce input is the preacher, the moral leader, the inspirer, the mentor or the role model. That is what is scarce in our world and we don't even know it.</p> <p>Tyler:              And it's hard to produce, right? Actually we may get more of it through the Internet itself, but still it's hard to produce and for a lot of people, a lot of it has to be in person. Like you've read a lot of my stuff or heard me, but like now we meet the first time and I hope at least I'm something different to you. Maybe I'm worse?</p> <p>David:              You're a blundering fool, Mr. Cowen. Hahaha.</p> <p>Tyler:              Haha, well, I'm happy if I'm not different at all. So there's something about meeting the person where you reevaluate all the rest. That's just so fundamental.</p> <p>David:              I'll tell you, this is what I feel with almost every single person. So with people who I ask of course are generally the people I tend to respect the most. So they start off through social media. What I found really interesting is they are there, they're almost like godly and then you meet them and you realize that they're human and then on like the far side of their humanity is their exceptionalism of like, you can do it, but because you can do it and you know how much work goes into that, then you begin to have this really deep admiration for many of these people.</p> <p>Tyler:              Someone just emailed me a question. It was, what's your readers biggest misconception about you? And it's a brilliant question. Partly it's such a good question because I don't know the answer even though it's like about me. You think, oh, you know about yourself. But if people ask you a question about you, you don't know the answer to, it's a very good question.</p> <p>David:             What did you respond with?</p> <p>Tyler:              Uh, I asked the question back. (Both laugh)</p> <p>Tyler:              The answer I got was uh, I'm more serious in print and on the blog and more a kind of genial or enjoying things or playful in person.</p> <p>David:              You are very playful. You're very playful. But I knew that because because every interview, about five percent is funny. There's always humor and humor is just, it's very important to be able to humanize in that way.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's the emotionally vivid thing. It's the entry point. Like humor is an entry point for learning almost anything.</p> <p>David:              Huh, what do you mean by that?</p> <p>Tyler:              If you want to learn about like cheese, don't read a cheese book. Start with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python">Monty Python</a> skit about going into the cheese shop where he recites all the cheeses that they don't have. You learn names of cheeses much better that way than if you try to learn about cheese.</p> <p>David:              So is humor like music in that sense?</p> <p>Tyler:              Exactly. Music's a great way to learn about cultures and travel, humor. So the Monty Python skit where they try to summarize, proves it. If you don't know of it, watch it online. There's a competition, summarize <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Proust">Proust</a>. You've got to do it in 10 seconds. Of course it's a many volume work with not even all that much plot, so it's hard to summarize and you see people being blundering fools trying to summarize it. And this gets over in two and a half minutes. The best way to start understanding Proust is to view something funny on Proust.</p> <p>David:              There we go. Start a restaurant. So hopefully some ethnic food and podcast series. Well this was a great jumping point into Tyler Cowen. Thanks for coming on the North Star.</p> <p>Tyler:              My pleasure. Thank you.</p> <p>David:             Hey again, it's David here. One more time. You can support the Northstar podcast by leaving us a <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/north-star-podcast/id1170914572?mt=2"> five star review on iTunes</a>, or you can share the podcast on <a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en">Twitter</a> or facebook and to listen to other episodes or learn more about the North Star. You could connect with me directly at <a href="http://www.perell.com/">Perell.com</a>. And you can always reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell">Twitter @david_perell</a>. And if you enjoyed this episode, you'll also like <a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/josh">the episode with Josh Wolfe</a>, where we talked about the magic of learning, science, and economics.</p> <p>Tyler Cowen's Books: </p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2zx6Djy">Average is Over</a></p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2zwc0zi">The Great Stagnation</a></p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2yJdNnh">The Complacent Class</a></p> <p><a href="https://medium.com/stubborn-attachments/stubborn-attachments-full-text-8fc946b694d">Stubborn Attachments</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Other Links:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av5ncxj7wVE">Proust on YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/ben-sasse-tyler-cowen-book-twitter-trump-cb5b4a435323">Ben Sasse Podcast</a></p> <p><a href="http://tylercowensethnicdiningguide.com/">Tyler's DC Food Guide</a></p> <p><a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/10/david-perell-interviews-podcast.html#comments">Tyler's Blog: Marginal Revolution</a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">Tyler Cowen Twitter</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Connect with Me (I love meeting new people):</p> <p><a href="#">Twitter</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.perell.com/">Website</a></p> <p>Email: david@perell.com</p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join"><em>Subscribe to my Monday Musings Newsletter to Keep Up with the Podcast</em></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/f17d4ad6c7234b2fa3b0bbd4a556b88f/">Tyler Cowen: Two Blundering Fools</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-01-25<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/f17d4ad6c7234b2fa3b0bbd4a556b88f/&notes=Tyler Cowen: Two Blundering Fools">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Listen Here: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/north-star-podcast/id1170914572?mt=2">iTunes</a> | <a href="https://overcast.fm/+HgwvjR5yU">Overcast</a> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join"><em>Subscribe to my Monday Musings Newsletter to Keep Up with the Podcast</em></a></p> <p>Tyler Cowen is an economics professor at George Mason University. He runs the Mercatus Center, which bridges the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems. He blogs every day at <em>Marginal Revolution, </em>writes for Bloomberg, and hosts his own podcast called Conversations with Tyler. He writes about economics, arts, culture, food, and globalization.  </p> <p>As I prepared for this episode, I settled on three things that I wanted to focus on: how Tyler thinks about travel, the rise of China and India, and how he learns so much. Enjoy this exploration of knowledge and culture, and I hope you laugh with us along the way. </p> <p>I particularly recommend Tyler’s most recent book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2Cheerb"><em>Stubborn Attachments.</em></a></p> Transcript <p>David:             Tyler Cowen, welcome to the North Star.</p> <p>Tyler:              Thank you for having me.</p> <p>David:              So tell me a little bit about where you grew up in northern New Jersey. What was growing up like for you and what were you into as a kid?</p> <p>Tyler:              I was born in Kearny, New Jersey, Hudson county, which was a blue collar town, and my father climbed some kind of career ladder from having been bankrupted at thirty, to being upper, upper middle class, so I caught different parts of that income stream. I went to a great high school where I had four or five close friends who were super smart and had a blast. We were like a nerd fest before nerds were cool and I learned something every day but not from the teachers. I loved it and I just knew New York City.</p> <p>David:              Well, let's dive into it. I think that one thing that's really interesting about the Internet is I like to say it rewards obsession in a way that the world didn't use to and I think a byproduct of that is nerd culture is, is cool now.</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I specialized in the style of learning before there wasn't an internet and then when the Internet came along, I feel it made me like 20 times more productive. So I'm very lucky to have gotten this extreme productivity boost at about age 40, which is very rare in careers. There are people who might have some kind of productivity turning point when they're 29 or 22, but to get it at age 40, it's given my life a very different trajectory.</p> <p>David:              So I know you wrote a book about that, but talk about what was that productivity boost like, how do you think about productivity, and how did that boost manifest itself?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, I worked very hard for years at trying to absorb more information and absorb it quickly and order it effectively and when the way you do that is driving around to used bookstores and carry used books home and read them, well, that's a wonderful thing to do, but when you can just go to your iPad or your laptop and whoosh, it's all there, you're going to do a lot better.</p> <p>Tyler:              Whereas people who say do research, they've been made more productive by the Internet in other ways, but they're less concerned with absorbing information. So I feel I've gotten a relative gain compared to many other people.</p> <p>David:              So does that mean that you're hopping around between different subjects? Like if I go on marginal revolution, I could go from traveled economics to then yesterday, right, about North Korea and America. So are you hopping around or how has that style of learning changed over the years?</p> <p>Tyler:              I have long-term study plans, like part of my long-term study plan is to understand India and China much better. So that's kind of a 10 year project that I'm always in the middle of, but of course using the Internet to help me makes it much easier. Plus travel, travel being a key to learning. We'll get back to that. Uh, and then during the day I just try to keep up with the flow, the flow of good articles and new ideas.</p> <p>Tyler:              And you know, the flow always beats me. But you wake up at seven, you go to bed at 11:00 PM, there's interruptions, you exercise, you eat, but the day is the flow, the flow is your day, like it or not.</p> <p>David:              Dodging bullets and trying to survive. So there was analogy I got a couple months ago of if, if you're learning is a ship, when you try to steer something for long-term, so say that you want to learn about India in the next 10 years. The advice that I got which I thought was quite good was just steer your ship. So change your twitter feed, change your social streams one or two degrees. How do you think about it?</p> <p>Tyler:              I view myself as a prisoner of my passions. So what helps me is to be very motivated to do what I do. So I don't sit down and strategize like what's my optimal career plan?</p> <p>Tyler:              I just think what'll keep me involved and I figure they kind of compound interest on that learning will just accumulate and as long as I'm having fun, I'll stay motivated like way past other people and that's going to go well for me. So it's almost a deliberate absence of strategy except for motivating me.</p> <p>Compounding fuels success in almost anything. Albert Einstein once called it the 8th wonder of the world. <a href="https://t.co/1QcE9Q1hsU">pic.twitter.com/1QcE9Q1hsU</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480115963056128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              What are those core passions?</p> <p>Tyler:              Travel of course, food, just social science and generally walking through the world on a given day and you see things like you go to Barnes and Noble, they offer like a loyalty card, buy more books with us, we'll give you a discount and you think, well, why are they doing that? How does that make economic sense? And you want to try to figure it out so you just want to try to figure things out. It's almost a Sherlock Holmes like game and there's always more and more and more and more and more and it drives you crazy, but it's fun.</p> <p>David:              What is it about China and India in particular that appealed to you?</p> <p>Tyler:              Obviously they're two highly populous countries. The US could have a billion more people and we'd still be, you know, the third most populous country in the world. China now by at least one measure has the world's largest GDP and I'm an economist. India is probably headed to having the world's largest GDP. So it does go back and think, imagine you're a British person in 1910, like what should you study? Where should you travel? Well, the United States. To complain that you don't like the pollution or not all the food is what you expect. It's irrelevant, right? You go to the United States, if you don't, you're kind of a dummy. So for me right now, China, India, that's like the United States in 1910. I feel obliged to learn it more by obligation, but it's fun. It's also a passion.</p> <p>David:              So when you're going about learning something like China, India, of course you'd go to the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/michael-bloomberg">Bloomberg New York Times</a>, but I think that there is, to back to nerd culture, there are probably certain sections of the Internet of the world that will give you a very rich experience that the average person wouldn't get.</p> <p>David:              You seem to be very good at that. How have you been thinking about studying China in India in a way that most people wouldn't think about?</p> <p>Tyler:              China and India I consider hard to learn because when you read about their histories, things don't fall into intuitive categories that maybe they do for Chinese people for instance, but all the different dynasties, they tend to blur together. You could read the same Chinese history book a bunch of times in a row and at the end you're still confused and you don't really know how to place it all, so to pick some side areas, so for me, Chinese food or Indian classical music or certain features of Chinese geography or ethnic regional culture and to learn those well and just keep on attacking the elephant from all these different sides rather than just, "Oh, I'm going to sit down and read this book on Chinese history.".</p> <p>Tyler:              That tends not to work. It works really well for like Paris or the Florentine Renaissance, but for unfamiliar parts of the world and I look for these sideways in the door.</p> <p>David:              Well, let's dive into China first. Where in China have you been and what have the really striking experiences been for you during your travels set?</p> <p>Tyler:              My goal is to go to all the provinces in China in a significant way and not just putting a toe in. I'm past the halfway point. My favorite part of China is the west and the southwest, especially Yunnan province. It's highly exotic. It's about half regional minorities. That has some of China's best food. It's extremely reasonably priced that has remarkably little pollution by Chinese standards. People are very friendly, uh, there are actually quite pro-american because of the history of America. Helping them out in the war against Japan is just amazing fun.</p> <p>Tyler:              I think right now it's probably the best trip in the world is to go to western China.</p> <p>David:              Wow. So western China and eastern China, of course, because we're just talking about GDP, it seems like most of that would be concentrated in eastern China. So let's start with western China. What is it about it that makes it so interesting and is it authentic to what's happening in China because it is so different demographically.</p> <p>Tyler:              Authentic is a tricky word. So if you go to Oregon is not authentic America. Well yeah, but it's not typical either. Nor is New Jersey. So southwestern China, it's just accessible and it's fun. So Beijing I love. It's fantastic. Everyone should go multiple times, but in some ways it's a tough slog. A lot of the city is ugly. The pollution can be awful and it's so large. It's not really walkable for the most part, although it's walkable within neighborhoods.</p> <p>Tyler:              You can go to Beijing and think you don't really like China. That's the wrong impression. So I would say Udon, it's like this backdoor into China and it will open up ways of thinking about China and then when you go to Beijing you'll like Beijing a lot more. So you know, to get to Udon, you probably have to go through Beijing to fly there. So yeah, stop in Beijing for a day, but find the back doors that get your passions and that's going to be western China.</p> <p>David:              And now in terms of what I would consider, I don't know if this is totally true, but that's how I model China. There are four big mega cities. You know there's, there's the manufacturing center, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing. Can you talk about the differences between them?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, Guangzhou and Chongqing are also mega cities.  Some people believe Chongqing, which now has been made its own province is bigger than any other locality in China. We don't even know because there are so many people who are within China, in essence, illegal migrants. We're not sure how many people are are there. The different parts of China until recently have not been economically integrated, so they have cuisines that are quite unlike each other, maybe more unlike each other than different European cuisines. Visually, some parts will look the same because these mega cities have been built up recently using more or less common patterns so you can have the deceiving impression that you're going to the same place over and over again, even though you're traveling to many parts of China, but European say that about the US often like "Oh, the whole country feels the same." If you live here, you know, it's not true, right? There aren't really significant differences.</p> <p>Tyler:              So to go to Hunan Province or to go to Shenyang in the northeast, which is near North Korea, or go to, you know, Chengdu in Sichuan and forgive all my pronunciations which are not proper Chinese. Uh, you're seeing much more diversity than anything you're likely to do in either Europe or the US. You're seeing what's now the world's most important country. Again, I can't stress how favorable the prices are. You can stay in a five star luxury hotel in most parts of China other than Beijing or Shanghai for less than $100 a night and it will be, you know, a wonderful quality experience and the best food in the world, you know, a meal will never have to cost you more than $20 unless you order a highly unusual dish like shark fin soup. So if you're on any kind of budget, there was no reason not to go.</p> <p>Tyler:              Crime is close to zero for women overall it's quite safe. I mean everywhere it has some problems, but as the world goes, one of the best areas to travel in solo if you're a woman. The main reason not to go is air pollution. But again in the west that's a much smaller problem.</p> <p>David:              Right. I was reading that there have been 16,000,000 new bikes installed in China in the last year and a half and, and a lot of people are saying that the changes in transportation there may do something at least to help boost the air pollution, which I thought was interesting, but I want to dive into infrastructure. How has being in China, uh, changed the way that you think about infrastructure and sort of the way that you think about how development happens?</p> <p>Tyler:              Infrastructure is their specialty. They have, what is one of the world's two or three best train systems given how large the country is, that's important. A remarkable thing about traveling and mainland China is you can wake up in the morning and one city and be in almost any other part of China the same day just by taking a train trip and you'll see amazing things on the way. But in terms of planning your journey, everything is within a day without having to mess around with flights and with flights, you don't see what's in between. So you can go like Beijing to Shiyan see the terracotta warriors, that's maybe about six hours. So there's this remarkable sense of freedom you have because of the infrastructure. Along so many dimensions, now they are probably more innovative than we are. And to see that is impressive, we Americans are so complacent and smog. We think where the world's innovators, the Europeans lag behind true on average, but China does something like the payment system.</p> <p>Tyler:              There's this way quicker and much better and you'll come back here and curse, like having a, you know, stick your chip in the thing and it doesn't always work. They're rebuilding their world in some ways. They're outdoing us.</p> <p>David:              In terms of innovative. How do you define innovative and in what sense do they have an advantage by by not having had the PC and being able to jump straight to sort of a mobile first world?</p> <p>Tyler:              In some cases, they're just not locked into older systems as you mentioned. Also, this is more disturbing. We should be bothered by this by having less rule of law. They can just "do things and get them done" and that's not always a good thing. A privacy law. They don't have the concerns you would have in Europe or the United States, but a Chinese payment typically is you take out your smartphone, you scan a qr code, it can be done in a second and a half.</p> <p>Tyler:              The error rate seems to be very low. Uh, it's processed perfectly well. It's cheaper, better, quicker and more convenient than what we do and they beat us and we're not really catching up. And we need, uh, to absorb that lesson for the first time maybe ever. But at least for a long time, the US now has a peer country. Like Soviet Union was never that peer, only with weapons were they a peer. China in terms of creativity and GDP. Arguably right now is a peer. You ought to go and learn from your peer, right? How can you not do that?</p> <p>David:              Yeah. I couldn't agree more. I was talking to a friend last night. I think Hong Kong might be a good place or Shanghai might be a good place to spend a couple of years, but I want to talk about travel in terms of how do you think about travel?</p> <p>David:              So I'll be honest, I did a euro trip recently and I didn't get quite the experience that I wanted because before we had never really come to a consensus on what does travel mean and it's not something that a lot of younger people, at least in my, in terms of my friends really think about. So how do you think about travel and what are you looking to do when you do travel?</p> <p>Tyler:              I like to go weird places. So I did a European trip this summer. It was in August. I went to Macedonia. The country where people hardly ever go. Most of the tourist are either Russian or Serbian. Uh, but certainly not many Americans are there. Again, it's completely safe. Prices are very favorable. I had perfect weather, beautiful sights, tenth century monasteries, all kinds of sculpture. Remarkably good cheeses, breads and meats, wonderful food, wonderful lake fish. A lot of history. A lot of geopolitics you understand much better why the Balkans are messed up and just like how Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo fit together together.</p> <p>Tyler:              I've tried reading that in books. I can't grasp it. I go there, but the mix of going there and the books, somehow it all works and you see this country where the politics are so different from what we're used to in Europe. You just again have to reexamine everything. So I say to people like, go weird, like yes, at some point you should see Paris, but if all you do is see Paris, maybe you'll be a little bored. Where did you go?</p> <p>David:              In Europe?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah.</p> <p>David:              We went to Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, and Budapest.</p> <p>Tyler:              You should have seen Paris! Those are all the same, it's like an airport shopping mall.</p> <p>David:              I couldn't agree more and exactly. And then, so over the new year's I was in Chile.</p> <p>Tyler:              One of my favorites by the way.  </p> <p>David:              So my dad is a total nut. And so what we did was, it was new year's day and we went to go see some hieroglyphics up in the Atacama desert in the northern part of the country. It's the driest place in the world.</p> <p>Tyler:              And one of the best trips you can take.</p> <p>David:              Yes, it was wonderful. So it's new year's day and we'd go to the person at the front of the hieroglyphics and we say at where's the closest place to get lunch? And he said, it's new years day, it's all closed. So he said, but I have a friend, she can cook you food. So we go into this little town, all adobe houses, just a gravel streets. And this woman, Sherry and her husband had left her. She was quite lonely unfortunately, but we spent the entire afternoon with her. She, you know, she had chickens in the backyard, llamas in the backyard and it was the richest experience I had in a long time traveling.</p> <p>Tyler:              And the food there is excellent, right? It's quite safe. Infrastructure is surprisingly good given how remote it is and there's some magic to Chile, some kind of warmth but also efficiency where it just hits that sweet spot and it's both familiar and exotic at the same time.</p> <p>David:              Yeah. All right, back to India. So, now we'll get into India. So how have you been thinking about learning about India? I know at least in India is much, it's very different in terms of there's a lot of different languages, lots of different cultures. I think a lot of westerners don't realize that.</p> <p>Tyler:              I've been quite a few times to India. I've never gotten sick. I'm very fortunate. Some people do. I'm not sure how to weigh this risk, but I've done all kinds of things. Eating what I've wanted and just been fine every day. Maybe it's just because I travel a lot. Indian classical music I think is one of mankind's greatest creations ever. I would say going to the classical music festival in Chennai in December, I took my daughter to that. We both loved it. For food, India and China. Clearly the two best countries in the way better than any Michelin Guide and way cheaper. Everything is new and fresh and undiscovered and diverse. India's tough in a way that China isn't. So, China is poorer than what we're used to, but there's some grinding poverty in the countryside, but for the most part going around is not depressing. In India it can be. The air pollution can be worse than in China. The population density, the cities are out of control in a way you would not say about China. Chinese cities are way less dense than outsiders expect.</p> <p>Tyler:              Hong Kong is much denser than most parts of the typical Chinese city would be. So being in a Chinese city is a lot more pleasant than people expect, especially, uh, if it's not a major city, but India, my goodness, traffic, monsoon, disease. But there's something about the notion of ideas there. The religion, spirituality kind of syncretic something that is just magic and creative and nowhere else in the world do you get it and you're just bombarded with it the whole time. And people fall in love with India and they should. And you will. It's tough. I could, you know, you gotta be ready.</p> <p>David:              Talk more about the spirituality aspect because it's almost become trendy to talk about the eastern thought and, and, and whatnot. And I'm not discrediting it, but I think it's miss misinterpreted by many westerners.</p> <p>Tyler:              Keep in mind, I'm not myself a religious person. I wouldn't even say I'm spiritual. I don't really believe in anything in particular. So when I say it's rich in religion and spirituality, that for me actually has mixed sides and it may be partly a reason why India is not richer or has problems with public health, but the old saying when it comes to religion, every Indian is a millionaire, maybe is true, but don't think it's an entirely positive thing. But the ways in which religious ways of thinking suffuse the entire culture, uh, there are few other countries where that runs so deep and so thick and also in a diverse way. You have multiple religions including Christianity. And to learn those by going to India is one of the things you get there. It's one of the world's largest countries with Muslims, right? Maybe it's number three and I think. Indonesia number one, Pakistan, number two.</p> <p>Tyler:              I'm not sure if India is ahead of Bangladeshi behind it for Muslims, but obviously it's significant for Muslim culture. Janes, different kinds of Hindus, Sikhs and every city, every state is so different in a way people will engage with you is so fresh and this kind of deep burning curiosity to somehow incorporate what you know into what they think. Uh, to me there is very strong and I find very attractive.</p> <p>David:              This is going to be sort of part of a broader question. Are you reading books, blogs and we'll start there and then we'll get to the distinction between books and blogs and different forms of media.</p> <p>Tyler:              If it's India and China, uh, I take very different approaches. India, I find reading books much more useful than for China. Maybe it's because of the history intersects with European history more. But reading books on India, a lot more sticks with me than with China. Uh, I haven't found that many good blogs on India. It may just be my defect, but if you just read plenty of books on India and go and in terms of cinema and music and cuisine, try to actually learn things about those before you go. Fashion, design, textiles, studying history of Indian textiles is one of the best ways to learn Indian history and it can structure your tourism and where you go and maybe even what you buy. So there were more entry points for India. Whereas for Chinese music, I mean I've tried, I liked Chinese opera, but I don't find it that useful. A lot of it to me, I just don't enjoy Chinese popular music. I enjoy much less than Indian popular music. So for China it's much more important that I be there and talk to Chinese people, which you can do here as well of course.</p> <p>Tyler:              So I approached those two countries in a very different way. And India also I find I have a kind of stamina problem. I'm in very good health. I walk a lot, travel a lot, but it's hard for me day after day to be outdoors in Indian cities all day long. Just like pollution, noise, different indignities. I can't do it. Uh, with China, unless it's a very smoggy day I can. In India I paced myself much more. I spent a lot more time indoors. It's a little bit inefficient.</p> <p>David:              So let's get back to different forms of media. How do you think about books versus blogs? It's something that I debate a lot with my friends. Um, how do you think about it and what advice would you give to younger people as media begins to shift like it is.</p> <p>Tyler:              I mean mostly books are still better. There's way more knowledge in books than blogs and it's easier to find out how good a book is by reading reviews. Not that reviews are perfect, but you get a sense, you know, maybe blogging peaked about 10 years ago and I'm happy that I'm still blogging. Like our readership actually is not down at all. It's maybe up a little, but I don't think in general, blogs are a good way to learn about countries. They're very good for a particular food scenes. Like where should I eat in Mumbai? There'll be a food blog about Mumbai that will be way better than any book and then use the blog. But history of India, you know, just read some good books and they're there, read Indian fiction. Find these other entry points, like history of Indian textiles.</p> <p>David:              That's interesting that you talk about entry points. Is that something that you apply in other domains?</p> <p>Tyler's secret to learning: Don’t try to learn things head on. Look for entry points instead.💡 <a href="https://t.co/kUbVRNSdKo">pic.twitter.com/kUbVRNSdKo</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480464451002370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>Tyler:              Everything always has entry points. If you try to learn things head on, I just find I fail usually, entry points I succeed. More motivated pieces, start to fit together.</p> <p>David:              Recent example?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, take Macedonia, so I've been learning more about Macedonia history by studying, reading about Macedonian woodcarving. So by woodcarving you learn something about the religion, you learn something about the monasteries, you're learning what were the errors, where they were most creative, where it's just rereading political history I don't get-.</p> <p>David:              Like reading the Wikipedia page.</p> <p>Tyler:              That's right. So uh, there are always other entry points for any place and you know, they need to be ones that interest you, but basic ones are going to be food, music, art, design. Architecture is a very good one. Right. Architecture in Macedonia is very interesting. I read quite a bit about that.</p> <p>David:              I'm curious to hear more about architecture and different from Macedonia to India to China.</p> <p>Tyler:              Take the main city in Macedonia, Skopje. it had a complete makeover within the last 10 years. And they put up a large number of statues in a kind of older style, almost eastern European brutalist style. Many people hate them, some people quite like them for the most part. I liked them, but if you imagine some parts of Las Vegas, which are a bit garish and they put up big things to impress the viewers. A lot of Skopje looks like that, but it's done not In the kitschy way, but with, you know, uh, no wink from the eye and with no smile on the face, they just did it. And the city has been transformed and it's this major political issue and it was a dispute should they have spent so much money. So one way to learn Macedonia is to learn about the statues dispute.</p> <p>Tyler:              And then so many of the statues are historically controversial. Like there's a statue of someone who would seem to be Alexander the great, but the Greeks can't claim Alexander the Great. So if it's explicitly Alexander, the Greeks get upset, will be more concerned with blocking their entry into the European Union. So it's Alexander, but it isn't Alexander and just by reading about the statute that both is and isn't Alexander the great at the same time is a great way to learn about Macedonian history, politics more generally, international relations. So I think architecture is one of the best entry points and it's something you always see, right? Like you can't avoid it anywhere you go. And if it's ugly, often so much the better.</p> <p>David:              Now to China, the balance or the almost to the juxtaposition of totally modern these grand structures. And then the old.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's hard to find good old things in many parts of China. There are the old neighborhoods which they're clearing out of Beijing, but there's still some left. Uh, those to me are very charming just to walk through them. I can do, you know, for hours that's fun and they'll have great places to eat. Chinese mega cities. Uh, they are an acquired taste. The last one I was in was Chongqing, which is in western China. It's, you know, maybe 20,000,000 people just in enormous number of skyscrapers and they're not that distinctive, but the rivers of the city and the way it's laid out, it nonetheless has a distinctive field and if you walk around it enough, you will get that. Uh, and the ugliness or at least the non attractiveness of the architecture I actually like it. It is something you need to learn, but it's, it's part of what being there means, you know, it's not all gonna look like Venice, nor do I want it to.</p> <p>David:              So when you go into these cities and you're meeting people and trying to learn as much as you can, is that similar to the way that you conduct your Conversations with Tyler series? What is your philosophy of interviewing so to speak?</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I picked the people I want to talk to, so I'm very selfish. I'm not paid to do this, so I should have fun. On average, I spend maybe a month preparing for a guest. Maybe I'll have done that reading all right. But even then I'll reread it. So it's gotta be like, look, I want to spend a month doing this or like why, you know, I'm not, I don't care about you all listeners now and it's a way of focusing my reading. It's actually an entry point. So I'm going to interview <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat">Ross Douthat</a> in December. I'm friends with Ross, he's a great thinker, awesome columnist.</p> <p>Tyler:              But Ross for me is also an entry point actually into understanding Catholicism. And if I just sat down and read about the Catholic Church, a lot of it would be boring. But if I read, well I'm going to try to figure out what does <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat">Ross Douthat</a> think about this Catholic issue. I learned so much more about Catholicism because Ross is my entry point. So I picked guests to be entry points.</p> <p>David:              And then when you're actually doing the interview, what are you thinking about? What, what, how are you thinking tactically about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              I don't know if people should emulate each other because you know, we're all different, but I take everything that person has done and I hold it in my mind all at the same time right before and during the interview. And that's extremely strenuous, so for me to do one of these interviews is the most strenuous thing I do in life. Much harder than giving a talk and I'm quite exhausted when it's over, even though they do much more of the talking because having to hold all the information in my brain, it's like playing a very hard chess game.</p> <p>Tyler:              And then when the interview's over, I lose like 90 percent of it within half an hour. But maybe it's made my understanding of things deeper. Uh, but during the interview I feel I have access to kind of everything I've taken in, almost in a magical way. Uh, I'm not sure other people can or should emulate that, but that's how it is for me. It's very intimidating. I think people have realized now when they're interviewed by me, I kind of know some of their stuff better than they do and I'm not that slow, so I'm not trying to screw them over and make them look stupid at all. Quite the contrary. But when someone's trying to make you look really smart, it's actually harder than when someone's trying to refute you.</p> <p>David:              That's interesting. In <a href="https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/ben-sasse-tyler-cowen-book-twitter-trump-cb5b4a435323"> your interview with Ben Sasse</a>, it was really wonderful. I've listened to it three or four times. I've read his books since and what really struck me was the notion of a multi career life, the idea that it used to be perhaps that you worked for a corporation the rest of your life or be a tenured professional like yourself, but now that's beginning to change. How should young people be thinking about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah, teaching yourself how to learn and relearn. So there's all this talk, oh, I learn from my school, or you know, business will retrain me someday. No one retrains you, your business, your employer might help you, but you're retrain yourself. That's one reason why wage inequality is up. Not many people are good at this. So learning how to retrain yourself, I think getting mentors in any new area is very, very important. It's still underrated even though I think it's pretty highly rated. Uh, I mean, those are some basic tips I would give people.</p> <p>David:              In terms of mentors, I'll push back on you a little. Is it worth taking the time to actually get a mentor in real life? Like what would the benefit of that when I could listen to your Conversations with Tyler series and all these other incredible podcasts and in some ways that are a similar mentorship. It's just not so personal.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's great to do that, but a mentorship by being alive and physical makes so many things emotionally vivid for you. And I think for eighty percent of people, uh, that's extremely important. So the mentor is like another kind of entry point into something. And some click happens in your mind, like why something is important. You learn by meeting the person and interacting with them and it may just be two or three hours in your life. It doesn't have to be an ongoing thing. Right? Uh, and I think we still undervalue that, trying to meet those few right people who will open a few intellectual doors for you.</p> <p>David:              So who have the mentors has been for you? I know your, when you were getting your, uh, PhD in economics and then, uh, Mr. Shelling, right?</p> <p>Tyler:              At Harvard, he was an important mentor for me and also he gave me a vision of what it could mean to succeed that I hadn't quite had before, but my most important mentors, you know, I was a teenager. So there was a fellow named Walter Grinder. Probably my most important mentor. I met him, I'm guessing I was 14 and Walter at the time was not a, he's never had really worldly success, but he was the person I met who had read and understood more books than anyone else and he still would be one of the few like of anyone I've ever met who's read and understood more than anyone else.</p> <p>Tyler:              And I just saw that in him and I thought like, well I want to be some version of this. And that was one of the biggest events in my life was meeting and getting to know Walter Grinder.</p> <p>David:              Keep going on that. That's really interesting.</p> <p>Tyler:              And I think it wasn't easy for me to see Walter. I didn't drive, he was a friend of my father's like we had some meals together. I met him some number of times or take the bus into New York, see him there, but it wasn't an amazing amount of contact, but the contact we had, I got that vision and I would always ask Walter, well, Walter, what should I read? And I would read what he recommended, but what he recommended was actually not important. What was important was to kind of see the wheels turning in his head, like how he thought about what he was reading was way more important than any particular book he recommended.</p> <p>David:              Do you have rules for how you think about those things?</p> <p>Tyler:              I don't know if there are rules, but thinking strategically and philosophically about management is one of the most important things almost anyone can do because it's hard for me to think of anyone who is as productive solo is with other people and other people can multiply both your impact and your learning by many, many, many times. Right? Like if you had to go to a bookstore and read all the books on management, they're kind of a harbor right? There are kind of like self-help books. They're cliches. It's like building a team is important, they're boring, maybe they're even wrong. So the entry points for management are so hard and I think they are people and it goes back to mentors. Maybe you can only learn whatever it is you know about management from mentors and not management books. But that, too, is oddly under appreciated for something that's so oversold. It's nonetheless underappreciated.</p> <p>David:              In <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31283667-stubborn-attachments"> Stubborn Attachments</a>. Your most recent, I don't know if I could call it a book, but it was something of that form. Yeah, output. You talked about the power of compounding and what is it? Of course it's important and finance and of course people have uh, many people have a elementary idea of it. But what do you made that sort of the, the core theme of that book? and why?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yeah, so much of what people write is autobiographical. So I could give you a kind of objective philosophical answer as to why I think compounding is important. But I prefer to give you a biographical answer. So right now I'm 55 and I started on all the assignments at actually 13 or 14, so that's over 40 years of stuff. So I'm not old. I'm, you know, in good health and very full of energy. But like, no more years of history. I've had more years of learning. So the idea, you should have a very long time horizon and be totally determined and persistent and like none of us are really that able or smart at all. We're all kinds of blundering fools. But if you just get some rate of improvement and just let it keep on compounding, I mean you can do pretty well. I'm a big believer in that as a form of biography. Same is true with travel. I think every year I traveled better and more wisely and it's more fun for me because I learned things from the last time I travel. So you always want to be on some kind of cycle. Our curve where you're compounding.</p> <p>David:              I'm glad I'm not the only blundering fool then. Um, so. So when did that become clearer and clearer to you? When did you begin to have an intuitive sense of that and then what were, as somebody who's 23 years old, somebody who's just beginning their career, what would I not understand about compounding that, you know.</p> <p>Tyler:              In my early forties, I actually realized what I was doing, so I was doing it for over 25 years and not even knowing what I was doing, which makes me really a blundering fool. But the things I had learned much earlier, like started to pay off in my research and my books, like ideas finally gelled after 25 years. And also the Internet gave me a platform for putting them out there. My abilities to sort of think about and evaluate projects became sharper and a lot of things came together for me, you know, in my early forties, which is probably later than average. And then I kind of thought back then, you know, I've been kind of working towards this for a long time and I didn't even know it.</p> <p>David:              The book, out of all the ideas that you've written about, the one that is truly fascinating to me is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a>. Can you give a brief overview and how have your ideas from that book changed over time?</p> <p>Tyler:             <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a>. I think it came out four years ago now. I'm not sure, but it basically looks at the implications of a world where computers can do so much and artificial intelligence is here and on the way. So I think if people just falling into two categories there, they've either found a way that the computer augments their skill and then they can do very, very well in life or they're in some way competing against computers and software and then the chance they lose is actually pretty high. Like if you were to play an ordinary travel agent 25 years ago, right now you're probably doing something else. Maybe you can plan boutique holidays or wealthy people, but odds are, you know, <a href="https://www.expedia.com/">Expedia</a> and <a href="https://www.orbitz.com/">Orbitz</a> have outcompeted you. So this is driving some of the income inequality, which is not a comfortable reality, but I think it's one we have to face. And what we want to do is get as many people as possible on the better side of that division.</p> <p>Tyler:              And part of the book is how to do that and how to think about this for your own career, your own skills.</p> <p>David:              You mentioned self learning. What else would be the big important things?</p> <p>Tyler:              Conscientiousness, persistence, determination, kind of very old school moral virtues I think matter much more now than they did 25 years ago. That's counter-intuitive. But if you just stick to some version of classical morality and keep a long time horizon, I think today opportunities have never been better. But of course it's not easy for most of us to do.</p> <p>David:              Has in terms of opportunities then, has the Internet changed how you think about planning? Like are you're thinking about planning on shorter time horizons more opportunistically?</p> <p>Tyler:              Yes, and I've never thought that much about planning anyway. That's one of the ways in which I'm a blundering fool.</p> <p>David:              Haha, we're going to call this episode "Tyler Cowen is a blundering fool."</p> <p>Tyler:              Haha. And again, everything I'm saying, I'm not recommending for other people. I would just stress how different people are, find your own way, but just to tell you how I've thought about it for myself, I said if I can find things that to me are fun, compounding will kick in in my favor and all the blunders I make in the meantime will come out in the wash. I really actively maybe recommend against that for most people. But that was my so-called planning, was to have fun.</p> <p>David:              Wonderful. Going to do a little pivot here. You seem to have a big love for basketball and the <a href="http://www.nba.com/">NBA</a>, but besides basketball, what do you love about the NBA?</p> <p>Tyler:              It's drama, right? It's better than most theater, but it's actually happening. So what really matters to the people? You don't have to suspend belief. It's an entry point into understanding a lot about America.</p> <p>Tyler:              The NBA in particular is an entry point to understanding a lot about race. The NBA is far more international than before and it's a way of being in touch with parts of American life and commercialization and also media and television that otherwise I wouldn't necessarily intersect with that much and it's just plain outright fun. And last night I watched the <a href="http://www.nba.com/wizards/">Wizards</a> play their first game of the year.</p> <p>David:              That <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wall_(basketball)">John Wall</a> dunk was crazy.</p> <p>Tyler:              It was, it was kind of an awful ugly game and I'm not going to watch again for a while. I got it out of my system and I'll follow every game. And as the playoffs approach, I'll watch it a bit more. I'm going to a game December fifteenth with <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/experts/philip-a-wallach/">Philip Wallach</a>. That'll be great fun. And he and I will talk social science.</p> <p>David:              There we go. Well, I'm going to try to go tomorrow night, but I want to dive into the Wizards. I'm curious to hear about what you said about NBA in America, sports in America. I, uh, it was with some friends the other day and I argued that sports was actually the best way to learn about America and now I'm going to use your entry point theory. What do you have to say about that?</p> <p>Tyler:              I had breakfast with <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/george-f-will">George Will</a> a few weeks ago when I said to him, you know, today you probably understand the country better if you read the sports page than if you read the news page. It's more like what people are actually doing. There's something quite normal that sports but sports. It's also extremely bizarre. You care so much about like your team, which is arbitrary. Like these guys. They're not from Washington. I don't even identify with Washington. I don't know them that might be bigger jerks than the <a href="http://www.nba.com/celtics/">Boston Celtics</a> and I root, you know, very hard for them to beat the Celtics and you realize how much of like human nature is expressive. How much some of it's like politics. Uh, you know, how much in some ways sports, like mirrors hunting and some very old pastimes of male competition and bonding. It's also a way of studying how statistics matter, what you can measure and not measure. Management, teamwork. Sports is a wonderful entry point for all these things.</p> <p>David:              Sports abroad in other countries. What have your experiences been? To go back to the beginning of this conversation.</p> <p>Tyler:              I once saw a professional basketball game in New Zealand, which is a much lower quality of play, but that too is interesting. I tried to see a game in Spain. I failed to. I'd love to see professional basketball game in China. Uh, I consider that an under-explored area where I'd like to do more.</p> <p>David:              Yeah.I find the relationship interesting, to go back to basketball. The relationship between China and America with the NBA.</p> <p>Tyler:              A great entry point into China, is to read all of that stuff in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury">Marbury</a>. His experiences in China and you will see sides of China much more clearly than you would get out of reading a book on Chinese history.</p> <p>David:              What is that story about again?</p> <p>Tyler:              Well, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury">Stephon Marbury</a> was sort of a top player here, but not actually that good. And he shot the ball too much and he was out of control and not a great teammate. And uh, he had some injury problems. He quit. He reinvents himself in China and he's a huge success in China. They've even erected statues to Stephon Marbury and China's, he's a major endorser. He's had his own movie, I think for awhile a TV show. And how Chinese treat celebrities and how they think about African Americans and how they reward athletic excellence in ways in which they're either more tolerant or more rewarding or more brutal. Like compare the story of Stephon Marbury with China's own <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao_Ming">Yao Ming</a> who it seems was bred, eugenically bred to be a star basketball player. That too, is insight into China. Basketball, one of the best entry points into China.</p> <p>David:              Chinese celebrity. Let's go down that rabbit hole.</p> <p>Tyler:              So, China of course is a big country and the media are very important and they have <a href="https://web.wechat.com/">Wechat</a>, which is more powerful than our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a>. It performs some similar functions, but more. Uh, China has become a celebrity culture in a very short period of time. And in some ways it's copied a somewhat earlier version of American celebrity culture than we have now. Now it's in some ways more Internet based, but Chinese celebrity is a sign of China being domesticated and less authoritarian than you might think reading the news pages and it's very aspirational and to see what celebrity looks like and a culture that is much more aspirational than ours. Ours is much more complacent. That to me is a very interesting contrast.</p> <p>David:              We gotta dive into the complacency. Compare the similarities and the differences in terms of complacency between China and America. Because when I see the data, I concur with your argument, but living in Manhattan, it's not what I feel whatsoever.</p> <p>Tyler:              Manhattan, of course, is an outlier and when you say Manhattan, there are many Manhattan's. But if you think about China, my first visit was 1989. There were hardly any cars. Everyone was on a bicycle. Maybe you'd be lucky to have a bicycle. It was a very, very poor place. And now, uh, it's about as.... Well, it has a higher total GDP than ours, but it's better off than most other emerging economies per capita. They've had a 35 or more year run, that's one of the two or three most impressive runs in human history ever, and this is the only one for a billion plus people. So it could be the most important event in human history ever. Or one of the top three or four. So just that alone is like, oh my goodness. But there's still high risk in China.</p> <p>Tyler:              If you don't get out there and like master something, that risk will come and get you and crush you. If you were born into an educated family in this country, that's typically not the case. Someone can take care of you or you can get a job or a degree where you get by. You can be a slacker. Um, China, people expect everything to change every 10 years. It has been for them. They're used to this, they consider it a norm. They're not complacent. Life there is much more stressful in most ways. It's much less pleasant in many ways. But it's also more real and at least in that one big way. And now they are determined to outdo us and they're making a real go with it. That's like, how can you not want to go and see that?</p> <p>David:              Also as a young person, I first of all feel compelled to make that change, but also not something that, of course the American media is covering very much.</p> <p>Tyler:              There's so many articles on millennials, right? Millennial this, millennial that. So in a sense, all ideas about millennials are covered whether they're true or false, but none of them seem to get any traction is I suppose how I view it.</p> <p>David:              So how do you view the millennial generation?</p> <p>Tyler:              They're the nicest, most tolerant generation we've had, but I don't think that's an entirely good thing. And so far they're slated to be a relatively complacent generation. Maybe somewhat less ambitious, taking fewer chances, wanting safe spaces, which makes sense given the constraints they had been faced. But I worry that they're not replenishing America's cultural capital for generations to follow.</p> <p>Ah, the millennial question 😯😯😯 Millennials are the nicest, most tolerant generation we’ve ever had. But it’s not entirely a good thing... <a href="https://t.co/ejXISxt5Mu">pic.twitter.com/ejXISxt5Mu</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922481350824865792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              Talk about those constraints. But also, I'm interested in the dichotomy of millennials are both complacent and entitled.</p> <p>Tyler:              A lot of millennials grew up in families that had a lot of wealth, right, more than ever before. That leads to a sense of entitlement. There is way more helicopter parenting for these people than ever before, which I think is mostly a negative, but they also grow up in this slow job market. Sometimes very slow depending on their age, no fault of their own. They grow up in a much more globalizing world, so an investor is thinking like, should I hire this millennial or should I send my capital to Vietnam where someone will be just as smart, maybe harder working and do something for a tenth of the wage, and we see a lot of people choosing the ladder. I wouldn't say that it's anyone's fault, but it makes it a different world. You either decide, well, I'm going to be the next <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg">Mark Zuckerberg</a>, and there's a class of people like that who've been phenomenal, or you just decide like, look, I can't really compete. It's gotten too hard, but these stocks have wealth or enough. I can protect myself. The Internet is fun. TV is great. Maybe people are into recreational drugs, whatever level or kind of sex nuanced way easier to get them before.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's like, well, why not do that? That's pretty good. Right?</p> <p>David:              Right. I mean it's funny because I see almost all so many of these ads in New York are surrounded around "It'd support you to just stay home and we will bring it all to you.".</p> <p>Tyler:              That's why the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/">Amazon</a> will deliver whatever or <a href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a> streaming, everything's delivered now and that to me is the cultural negative even though obviously it's super convenient.</p> <p>David:              So what is it about China and India? What is in the water there that is having things be different because of course they have the Internet.</p> <p>Tyler:              Well they're much poorer so that's something bad in the water and they're growing at much higher rates because they're doing catch-up growth and the background level of risk there is very high, which again makes living there extremely unpleasant, not for the billionaires, but for most ordinary people, their incomes can fluctuate much more. Trying to get good healthcare in China, much, much harder than here at any price you may have to pay. And then bribe your doctor again. Even then the, you know, the pharmaceuticals you get might just be fake. You'll never really know until you live or die. We don't face that kind of challenge and our healthcare system is pretty screwed up, right? So, uh, that makes them less complacent.</p> <p>Tyler:              So the idea that not all good things come together, I feel is very hard for America to grasp right now. And the fact that we've made our lives pleasant and safer, which on net, I favor that that's also very costly. Again, it's a point being made by myself, by others, but it's not appointed distraction.</p> <p>David:              Yeah, I thought what you said on a previous interview was just that mediocrity is underrated.</p> <p>Tyler:              That's right, mediocre life is a great life. Like if you can just keep it going live til 80, whatever your thing is, the Internet, the drugs, the sex, some nonlinear combination thereof. There were like, you have your three kids, uh, you know, it's going to be diverse, but like, that's really good. You cannot be starving, but you don't have to be Mark Zuckerberg. And if I think of myself, uh, you know, I'm not like really of wealth, but I think I have a better life than, you know, most really wealthy people. It's more fun, more challenging.</p> <p>David:              Well, the final question I'm asking you is then, what are the tenants that you've looked for in terms of building that life and in terms of what has given you that life? What are the things you know, the pillars of what makes it so enjoyable for you?</p> <p>Tyler:              You know, I think so much of what we are we're born with, um, so we admit that about yourself, like figure out what you're really good at, which is going to be something for almost everyone. Like try to build on that. Be pretty honest with yourself about what you're not good at. Like it has to be fun because you need to stay motivated and it's a more competitive world order. But the opportunities are there and uh, you know, do something different than what I did, but do something like I'm waiting for you to do something for me. Here I am impatient, wanting more fun. You do it, bring me stuff.</p> <p>David:              OK, well now I want to hear more.</p> <p>Tyler:              My main idea is not any idea at all. It's a method. It's a personal method and it's a method of learning. It's take wherever you're at and just try to push your understanding deeper. Don't spend time telling yourself that you're right and other people are wrong and try to talk about other people being wrong as little as possible. If someone bugs you in your twitter feed, don't let it bug you, either ignore them or stop following them because you'll start thinking how right you are and how wrong they are. That will screw up your learning path. Just like stay the compounding returns of learning more and more curious, better and deeper questions. Your current level of understanding is always that of a blundering fool in some way, but you want to be waltzing along that curve on the compounding returns and just always asking better questions and just obsess over that and so much getaway from like a fixed doctrine of, you know, whatever.  </p> <p>Incredible advice. “My main idea is not any idea at all… it’s a method of learning. Always ask better questions and obsess over that." <a href="https://t.co/aWpryqWfb1">pic.twitter.com/aWpryqWfb1</a></p> — ᴅᴀᴠɪᴅ ᴘᴇʀᴇʟʟ ✌ (@david_perell) <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell/status/922480784690286592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 23, 2017</a> <p>David:              Yeah, because that's what's so hard about about university is it like tells you almost what I know, what I need to do or know what I need to learn it. It's like the antithesis of curiosity.</p> <p>Tyler:              Yes, and it's too homework geared, which is a crime. High school, all the more so and our education system is failing us and this thing called the Internet has come along and for actual learning has so out competed what we call education.</p> <p>David:              It's not even close.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's not even close and so much of the internet is free. It's not all free but free or fairly cheap and it works on principles that are so much better than what you're given in so many classes. So I think the time is right for some real revolution where what we call education in some ways becomes more like the Internet and we're going about it wrong.</p> <p>Tyler:              So what we're doing now is we're taking education as we knew it and we're adding on the Internet, which I'm all for by the way. So you assign a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/">YouTube</a> video in your class and students email you again? Fine. No reason not to be excited about that, but the real gain is to make the Internet the center and they add on the education at the fringes and we're very far from doing that.</p> <p>David:              So then as information becomes abundant, the scarce resources should then shift into something else. So what is becoming scarce?</p> <p>Tyler:              Motivation, and that's the theme in my book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Average-Over-Powering-America-Stagnation/dp/0525953736"> Average Is Over</a> that you asked about. How can you motivate yourself, how can you motivate others? The real scarce input is the preacher, the moral leader, the inspirer, the mentor or the role model. That is what is scarce in our world and we don't even know it.</p> <p>Tyler:              And it's hard to produce, right? Actually we may get more of it through the Internet itself, but still it's hard to produce and for a lot of people, a lot of it has to be in person. Like you've read a lot of my stuff or heard me, but like now we meet the first time and I hope at least I'm something different to you. Maybe I'm worse?</p> <p>David:              You're a blundering fool, Mr. Cowen. Hahaha.</p> <p>Tyler:              Haha, well, I'm happy if I'm not different at all. So there's something about meeting the person where you reevaluate all the rest. That's just so fundamental.</p> <p>David:              I'll tell you, this is what I feel with almost every single person. So with people who I ask of course are generally the people I tend to respect the most. So they start off through social media. What I found really interesting is they are there, they're almost like godly and then you meet them and you realize that they're human and then on like the far side of their humanity is their exceptionalism of like, you can do it, but because you can do it and you know how much work goes into that, then you begin to have this really deep admiration for many of these people.</p> <p>Tyler:              Someone just emailed me a question. It was, what's your readers biggest misconception about you? And it's a brilliant question. Partly it's such a good question because I don't know the answer even though it's like about me. You think, oh, you know about yourself. But if people ask you a question about you, you don't know the answer to, it's a very good question.</p> <p>David:             What did you respond with?</p> <p>Tyler:              Uh, I asked the question back. (Both laugh)</p> <p>Tyler:              The answer I got was uh, I'm more serious in print and on the blog and more a kind of genial or enjoying things or playful in person.</p> <p>David:              You are very playful. You're very playful. But I knew that because because every interview, about five percent is funny. There's always humor and humor is just, it's very important to be able to humanize in that way.</p> <p>Tyler:              It's the emotionally vivid thing. It's the entry point. Like humor is an entry point for learning almost anything.</p> <p>David:              Huh, what do you mean by that?</p> <p>Tyler:              If you want to learn about like cheese, don't read a cheese book. Start with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python">Monty Python</a> skit about going into the cheese shop where he recites all the cheeses that they don't have. You learn names of cheeses much better that way than if you try to learn about cheese.</p> <p>David:              So is humor like music in that sense?</p> <p>Tyler:              Exactly. Music's a great way to learn about cultures and travel, humor. So the Monty Python skit where they try to summarize, proves it. If you don't know of it, watch it online. There's a competition, summarize <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Proust">Proust</a>. You've got to do it in 10 seconds. Of course it's a many volume work with not even all that much plot, so it's hard to summarize and you see people being blundering fools trying to summarize it. And this gets over in two and a half minutes. The best way to start understanding Proust is to view something funny on Proust.</p> <p>David:              There we go. Start a restaurant. So hopefully some ethnic food and podcast series. Well this was a great jumping point into Tyler Cowen. Thanks for coming on the North Star.</p> <p>Tyler:              My pleasure. Thank you.</p> <p>David:             Hey again, it's David here. One more time. You can support the Northstar podcast by leaving us a <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/north-star-podcast/id1170914572?mt=2"> five star review on iTunes</a>, or you can share the podcast on <a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en">Twitter</a> or facebook and to listen to other episodes or learn more about the North Star. You could connect with me directly at <a href="http://www.perell.com/">Perell.com</a>. And you can always reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/david_perell">Twitter @david_perell</a>. And if you enjoyed this episode, you'll also like <a href="http://www.perell.com/podcast/josh">the episode with Josh Wolfe</a>, where we talked about the magic of learning, science, and economics.</p> <p>Tyler Cowen's Books: </p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2zx6Djy">Average is Over</a></p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2zwc0zi">The Great Stagnation</a></p> <p><a href="http://amzn.to/2yJdNnh">The Complacent Class</a></p> <p><a href="https://medium.com/stubborn-attachments/stubborn-attachments-full-text-8fc946b694d">Stubborn Attachments</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Other Links:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av5ncxj7wVE">Proust on YouTube</a></p> <p><a href="https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/ben-sasse-tyler-cowen-book-twitter-trump-cb5b4a435323">Ben Sasse Podcast</a></p> <p><a href="http://tylercowensethnicdiningguide.com/">Tyler's DC Food Guide</a></p> <p><a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/10/david-perell-interviews-podcast.html#comments">Tyler's Blog: Marginal Revolution</a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/tylercowen">Tyler Cowen Twitter</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Connect with Me (I love meeting new people):</p> <p><a href="#">Twitter</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.perell.com/">Website</a></p> <p>Email: david@perell.com</p> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join"><em>Subscribe to my Monday Musings Newsletter to Keep Up with the Podcast</em></a></p><br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/54bb028caeb7431f9a86ec44ccf5f302/">Daniel Gross: Dreams and Determination</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-10-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/54bb028caeb7431f9a86ec44ccf5f302/&notes=Daniel Gross: Dreams and Determination">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Listen Here: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/north-star-podcast/id1170914572?mt=2">iTunes</a> | <a href="https://overcast.fm/+Hgwu4wO54">Overcast</a> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join"><em>Subscribe to my Monday Musings Newsletter to Keep Up with the Podcast</em></a></p> <p>My guest today is Daniel Gross, a partner at Y Combinator, the world’s best startup studio. Daniel focuses on artificial intelligence at Y Combinator and recently founded AI Grant, a distributed AI Research Lab. </p> <p>Daniel was born in Jerusalem, Israel and was accepted into the Y Combinator Program in 2010. At the time, Daniel was the youngest founder ever accepted. In 2013, Cue was acquired by Apple. At 22, Daniel was leading several search and AI efforts across the company spanning iOS, OS X and Apple Watch. </p> <p>In 2017, Daniel joined Y-Combinator as a Partner. He launched <a href="https://ycombinator.com/ai">YC AI</a>, Y-Combinator’s first vertical dedicated to investing in AI companies. In 2018, Daniel founded <a href="https://pioneer.app">Pioneer</a>. Pioneer is a search engine for the millions of “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/technology/talent-opportunity-gap-pioneer-fund.html">Lost Einstein’s</a>” — extraordinarily creative people around the world who have the talent, but lack opportunity. Once identified, Pioneer and makes small investments to support whatever project they’re working on.</p> <p>In this episode, Daniel talks about the experience of coming to America and starting a company with Y Combinator. He talks about the power of seeing life like a video game with levels, and fast, continuous feedback. Daniel also shares lessons from John D. Rockefeller on business, decision making, and company building. Finally, Daniel talks about Israel and shares his insights on why the country is so innovative.</p> <a class="gumroad-button" href="https://gum.co/danielgross">Purchase the Transcript</a> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP with THE PODCAST.</a>﻿ Show Notes <p>5:40- Daniel talks about some of things he became fascinated with early on in life.</p> <p>8:20 How Daniel took an early interest in coding through video games and reverse engineering.</p> <p>8:50 The “gamifacation” strategy Daniel uses to set goals and motivate himself.</p> <p>9:20 “Everything in life is some form of a video game”  Daniel explains how life can be similar to a video game in terms of seeing stages of life as levels, and setting goals and strategies to progress one from level to the next.</p> <p>11:22 Daniel delves into what motivates people and specifically how our need for approval is not necessarily something to be ashamed of.</p> <p>14:00 Daniel talks about YC’s earlier years and his first encounter with Steve Jobs.</p> <p>16:00 Daniel describes his initial vision to create a “personal” search engine capable of sorting through your own personal data.</p> <p>17:10 Daniel explains a variety of features and functions that AI and his coding have on iOS and OS devices </p> <p>18:15 How will we interact with artificial intelligence in the future?</p> <p>21:00 The pitfalls of trying to superimpose the current futuristic thinking rather than expecting the unexpected. </p> <p>22:56 New tech often seems like a toy or novelty at first, up until it becomes mainstream.  </p> <p>23:27- Daniels offers his perspective on the bottlenecks we have on scientific progress and the current lack of diversity in terms of ideas. </p> <p>26:00 Entry barriers most start ups have to face and overcome when entering AI development.</p> <p>27:32 Daniel speaks about Assembly A.I., a start up that YC worked with.</p> <p>29:30 Daniel explains the benefits of reevaluating a strategy when stuck on a challenging “level.”</p> <p>34:45 David suggests the first steps to perusing progress is surrounding yourself with great people or ideas.</p> <p>35:09 Reverse engineering your vision, into a plan. How to set “levels” as goals when playing the game of life.  </p> <p>37:39 How vital of a role our environment plays in our development and pursuit of  of progress.</p> <p>38:15 Optimizing for a city versus a small group and the importance of one’s surroundings when pursuing a goal or idea.</p> <p>39:38 Social/professional groups and their validity while shifting to a digital format. How strong are our online relationships when it comes to motivating us?</p> <p>43:06 What makes Israel so different and innovative?</p> <p>45:20 Daniel describes the first and second Intifada in Israel and the resulting send of community that was cultivated during the shared suffering. </p> <p>47:46 “Scarcity creates greatness” How Israel innovates out of necessity rather than experimentally. </p> <p>51:30 The “harsh” culture of Israel and its contribution to the deterrence of pursuing potentially good or risky ideas. </p> <p>53:45 How optimism can be both a positive outlook for growth, but can also lead to false or unrealistic expectations  </p> <p>57:00 Daniel on how we can learn from history when looking at it from a cyclical point of view.</p> <p>1:00.24 – How ‘stupid little ideas” can turn out to be some of the most innovative endeavors when pursued.</p> <p>1:01.38 “Fitness as a ticket of admission to the world” and how it enables us to better experience more aspects of life.</p> <a class="gumroad-button" href="https://gum.co/iiuur?wanted=true">Purchase the Transcript</a> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a>﻿<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></description>
            <content:encoded><![CDATA[ <strong>Podcast</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-N_KuvZMyU2h/">North Star Podcast</a> (LS 42 &middot; TOP 1.5% <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/listen-score/"><small>what is this?</small></a>)<br><strong>Episode</strong>: <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/e/54bb028caeb7431f9a86ec44ccf5f302/">Daniel Gross: Dreams and Determination</a><br><strong>Pub date</strong>: 2018-10-10<br><br><a href="https://www.listen411.com/?audio_url=https://audio.listennotes.com/e/p/54bb028caeb7431f9a86ec44ccf5f302/&notes=Daniel Gross: Dreams and Determination">Get Podcast Transcript &#8594;</a><br><em>powered by <a href="https://www.listen411.com/">Listen411</a> - fast audio-to-text and summarization</em><br><br><img src="https://cdn-images-3.listennotes.com/podcasts/north-star-podcast-david-perell-g9naFJ1eRP4-N_KuvZMyU2h.300x300.jpg" width="150" height="150"></img><br><br>Listen Here: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/north-star-podcast/id1170914572?mt=2">iTunes</a> | <a href="https://overcast.fm/+Hgwu4wO54">Overcast</a> <p><a href="http://perell.com/join"><em>Subscribe to my Monday Musings Newsletter to Keep Up with the Podcast</em></a></p> <p>My guest today is Daniel Gross, a partner at Y Combinator, the world’s best startup studio. Daniel focuses on artificial intelligence at Y Combinator and recently founded AI Grant, a distributed AI Research Lab. </p> <p>Daniel was born in Jerusalem, Israel and was accepted into the Y Combinator Program in 2010. At the time, Daniel was the youngest founder ever accepted. In 2013, Cue was acquired by Apple. At 22, Daniel was leading several search and AI efforts across the company spanning iOS, OS X and Apple Watch. </p> <p>In 2017, Daniel joined Y-Combinator as a Partner. He launched <a href="https://ycombinator.com/ai">YC AI</a>, Y-Combinator’s first vertical dedicated to investing in AI companies. In 2018, Daniel founded <a href="https://pioneer.app">Pioneer</a>. Pioneer is a search engine for the millions of “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/technology/talent-opportunity-gap-pioneer-fund.html">Lost Einstein’s</a>” — extraordinarily creative people around the world who have the talent, but lack opportunity. Once identified, Pioneer and makes small investments to support whatever project they’re working on.</p> <p>In this episode, Daniel talks about the experience of coming to America and starting a company with Y Combinator. He talks about the power of seeing life like a video game with levels, and fast, continuous feedback. Daniel also shares lessons from John D. Rockefeller on business, decision making, and company building. Finally, Daniel talks about Israel and shares his insights on why the country is so innovative.</p> <a class="gumroad-button" href="https://gum.co/danielgross">Purchase the Transcript</a> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP with THE PODCAST.</a>﻿ Show Notes <p>5:40- Daniel talks about some of things he became fascinated with early on in life.</p> <p>8:20 How Daniel took an early interest in coding through video games and reverse engineering.</p> <p>8:50 The “gamifacation” strategy Daniel uses to set goals and motivate himself.</p> <p>9:20 “Everything in life is some form of a video game”  Daniel explains how life can be similar to a video game in terms of seeing stages of life as levels, and setting goals and strategies to progress one from level to the next.</p> <p>11:22 Daniel delves into what motivates people and specifically how our need for approval is not necessarily something to be ashamed of.</p> <p>14:00 Daniel talks about YC’s earlier years and his first encounter with Steve Jobs.</p> <p>16:00 Daniel describes his initial vision to create a “personal” search engine capable of sorting through your own personal data.</p> <p>17:10 Daniel explains a variety of features and functions that AI and his coding have on iOS and OS devices </p> <p>18:15 How will we interact with artificial intelligence in the future?</p> <p>21:00 The pitfalls of trying to superimpose the current futuristic thinking rather than expecting the unexpected. </p> <p>22:56 New tech often seems like a toy or novelty at first, up until it becomes mainstream.  </p> <p>23:27- Daniels offers his perspective on the bottlenecks we have on scientific progress and the current lack of diversity in terms of ideas. </p> <p>26:00 Entry barriers most start ups have to face and overcome when entering AI development.</p> <p>27:32 Daniel speaks about Assembly A.I., a start up that YC worked with.</p> <p>29:30 Daniel explains the benefits of reevaluating a strategy when stuck on a challenging “level.”</p> <p>34:45 David suggests the first steps to perusing progress is surrounding yourself with great people or ideas.</p> <p>35:09 Reverse engineering your vision, into a plan. How to set “levels” as goals when playing the game of life.  </p> <p>37:39 How vital of a role our environment plays in our development and pursuit of  of progress.</p> <p>38:15 Optimizing for a city versus a small group and the importance of one’s surroundings when pursuing a goal or idea.</p> <p>39:38 Social/professional groups and their validity while shifting to a digital format. How strong are our online relationships when it comes to motivating us?</p> <p>43:06 What makes Israel so different and innovative?</p> <p>45:20 Daniel describes the first and second Intifada in Israel and the resulting send of community that was cultivated during the shared suffering. </p> <p>47:46 “Scarcity creates greatness” How Israel innovates out of necessity rather than experimentally. </p> <p>51:30 The “harsh” culture of Israel and its contribution to the deterrence of pursuing potentially good or risky ideas. </p> <p>53:45 How optimism can be both a positive outlook for growth, but can also lead to false or unrealistic expectations  </p> <p>57:00 Daniel on how we can learn from history when looking at it from a cyclical point of view.</p> <p>1:00.24 – How ‘stupid little ideas” can turn out to be some of the most innovative endeavors when pursued.</p> <p>1:01.38 “Fitness as a ticket of admission to the world” and how it enables us to better experience more aspects of life.</p> <a class="gumroad-button" href="https://gum.co/iiuur?wanted=true">Purchase the Transcript</a> <a href="http://perell.com/join">SUBSCRIBE TO MY “MONDAY MUSINGS” NEWSLETTER TO KEEP UP WITH THE PODCAST.</a>﻿<br><br><small>The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from David Perell, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.</small><br> ]]></content:encoded>
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