We spoke with Carroll County Chief Deputy Prosecutor Stacey Diener about the murder of Donna Schultz, a case she prosecuted as the prosecutor of Pulaski County. She is running for White County Prosecutor.

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Malcolm Kempt worked for years as a criminal defense attorney in the Canadian Arctic. He served clients in some of the coldest, most remote places on the planet. And he saw some horrific crimes.

He channeled that experience into his incredible debut novel, A Gift Before Dying. That centers a ruined investigator trying to get to the truth in the mystery of a young girl's death in a remote Nunavut community.

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We speak with longtime Columbus, Indiana attorney Greg Long about a life spent in the law.

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We interviewed Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland and Lawrence County Chief Public Defender Tim Sledd about working as defense attorneys and prosecutors.

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We interviewed Lawrence County Chief Public Defender Tim Sledd and Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland about working as defense attorneys and prosecutors.

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When you’re into true crime, you know all too well that bad stuff happens in real life. There’s danger out there. So all of us know how home security can prevent the worst from happening.

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Today, we're mixing it up on Anatomy of a Trial. We won't be talking about trials at all.

We’re going to be talking about arbitration! In civil cases, if you don't go to trial, you might end up in what's called arbitration. It's a different method of dispute resolution. We feel it's something that many of our listeners may actually encounter.

Our expert today is attorney Norris Cunningham. Norris Cunningham is an attorney with Stoll Keenon Ogden in Indianapolis. He was a co-founder of the firm Katz Korin Cunningham. He has long focused on legal disputes involving healthcare. He authored a book Inside the Minds: Health Care Law Client Strategies. Most importantly for our conversation today, he is an arbitrator. In fact, he's certified by both the American Arbitration Association and the American Health Lawyers Association.

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We interviewed family law attorney Patricia McKinnon about the ins-and-outs of family law — and why it can be heartbreaking and dangerous.

Check out the Super Lawyers Magazine article about Patricia here: https://www.superlawyers.com/articles/indiana/what-would-patty-do/

Here are some links regarding what we talked about on today’s show:

A USA Today report on the murder plot story: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/29/attorney-alleged-murder-plot/29487509/

A CBS4Indy report on the murder plot story: https://cbs4indy.com/news/woman-sentenced-to-27-years-for-bizarre-murder-plot-targeting-noblesville-attorney/

An Indiana Lawyer report about a murder involving an attorney: https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/24597-attorney-killed-by-husband

A 21AliveNews article about a murder involving an attorney: 

https://www.21alivenews.com/2024/02/05/allen-county-public-defenders-office-mourning-loss-colleague-killed-grabill/

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